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CCP Gangleri	Posted - 2007.11.02 15:37:00 - [1] Many of the people that regularly log on Sisi may have noticed frequent questions like: "Is the overview bugged? I can‘t resize it!" "Why are locked targets under the overview?" "Why do all info windows use the same window?" "Why can‘t I move all the overview windows together?" This post is an effort to bring everyone up to speed on the new UI features and provide feedback to the designers. Shift is your friend The shift button works wonders in the new UI, you can shift+drag, shift+click or even drag, hold then hit shift to snap the windows into the same formation. Shift+click on the pin/unpin makes all the windows in that stack be affected by that one click, shift+drag on the border of an unpinned or unlocked stack of windows does the same. Shift+drag or drag, hold+shift can be used to move stacks of windows together or move one and then snap all the other ones into place in the same spots an they were before in relation to the one that was moved. CTRL isn‘t bad either If you only want to modify the windows grouped below the one you are resizing or moving you can use CTRL in the same way as SHIFT. All windows below the one you are modifying will be affected instead of the whole stack. If you lose a window outside your screen area you should be able to bring it back using CTRL+TAB to select it, it will then pop back into view. If that doesn‘t work then there is always the „Reset to default window positions“ in the ESC menu. When in doubt, right click There are new options for some windows in the new UI, some of them are for the new Eve Voice fleet integration and some are for the new drone settings. The most important one is undoubtedly the new target lineup icon which can be right clicked to lock it in place and to choose how many targets you want in each line, I engourage everyone to try this out. The little target lineup icon can be found right next to your first locked target. Remembering the good things All window positions and settings are now saved through relog and session changes, even switching between resolutions on the fly should never result in unexpected window positions. In the previous version of the UI TAB would refresh the overview by minimizing it, in the new UI the TAB key minimizes all open windows (not modal windows) and maximizes them again unless one of them has changed states in between. This allows you to quickly switch between different view modes, minimize everything, double click select windows that you want to keep an eye on. If at first you don‘t succed... If the option you are looking for is not available through right clicking then try the General Settings menu. Some options previously available there have been moved to right clicking and some have been moved to there, an example is „show time stamp in chat“ which is now a right click option while „lock windows when pinned“ is in the Esc menu. If something unexpected happens you can always reset your windows to their default settings through the „Reset settings“ tab there as well. Feel free to post your own ideas and thoughts on the new UI, I‘ll be reading this thread every day to keep everyone up to date on whatever changes that are made.

Leandro Salazar The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.02 15:51:00 - [2] All I really care about UI-wise: Is there now a button to reload all weapons with the selected ammo in one action? There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Scorpion There is no 'e' in Caldari There is no makeup in rogue drones
Aladdin Insane	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:05:00 - [3] ^^ what he said
Arctur Gestator	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:41:00 - [4] I want that button too _________________________ Adapt or STFU
Valator Uel Caldari Pax Minor Asylum Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:41:00 - [5] Originally by: Aladdin Insane ^^ what he said lol, you guys are relentless, give them some credit for improving the UI. but still, signed! -----------------------------------------------------
Trent Nichols Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.02 16:57:00 - [6] Edited by: Trent Nichols on 02/11/2007 16:57:44 Credit given because the credit is due. The new UI really does look great and I think it will greatly improve the combat experience. So CCP... How about you just release the improvements and new content this patch and forget all the horrid nerfs? We would all love you and Eve would be a place full of joy and ganking.
Gripen Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:26:00 - [7] On the sisi windows can't be dragged partially offscreen. Can we have this ability back as it was very usefull?
Alex Harumichi Gallente Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:30:00 - [8] Making the UI more customizable: win. Good job, guys. (and yeah, that "reload all weapons with ammo <X>" would be a very nice addition :)
Imhothar Xarodit Minmatar Wolverine Solutions Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:32:00 - [9] Edited by: Imhothar Xarodit on 02/11/2007 17:33:50 Very nice work so far, and I have 1 additional proposal or call it wish: If CTRL-cliking the "pin" button on a window, its position gets locked without going transparent. It is cool that there is a dark background now (especially on chat) but the option to have it locked without going transparent would be handy (individually by window, ot a global option for all) Pretty please?
ZaKma Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:36:00 - [10] If you stack 2 containers together, then pin them and close them the next time you open either of them the stack is not pinned anymore. Please fix that. Apart from that I'm loving the new UI.
Masheine	Posted - 2007.11.02 17:37:00 - [11] One more slightly off topic UI request: The thing that got added to the skill display in the character window, where it closes the other drop down sections and only leaves the section you're looking at open, that's awesome. Can we add it to the market also? And, importantly, make it an option, so that people don't have to have it that way if they don't want. I'm gonna sneak in another one here, too. It would be really, really nice if there was a "synch to contents" type option on the market, so that when I right click an item in a hangar or something, and "view market details", I can then click "synch to market contents" on the market window and have it open up the category and sub-categories of the item I'm viewing the details on (if I'm viewing the details of a Vagabond, clicking "synch" sets the left hand window to have "Ships/HACs/Minmatar" open for me.
Cailais Amarr VITOC Fang Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.02 23:50:00 - [12] The new UI is awesomely good! oh and thx for posting mid fanfest: its appreciated. C. p.s. don't forget to boost the pilgrim... Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Dehumanisation - griefers are cool and if you are not a griefer, you do not belong here.
Draahk Chimera Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.03 04:32:00 - [13] New hud is awesome. Only one thing; up until now ctrl tab has removed all gaming related stuff from the screen and only left us with the beautiful galaxy to look at. Perfect for video-makers. Will there be a new button for this?
Sonya Rayner Unicorn Enterprise Blind Octopus	Posted - 2007.11.03 05:07:00 - [14] Originally by: Draahk Chimera New hud is awesome. Only one thing; up until now ctrl tab has removed all gaming related stuff from the screen and only left us with the beautiful galaxy to look at. Perfect for video-makers. Will there be a new button for this? well, i've just checked it out, the option is still there. You can Ctrl+Tab, or, alternatively, use Ctrl+F9 to hide/show hud ____________________ couldn't resist... sorry...
Monetta Hark Hark Nominees Besloten Vennootschap	Posted - 2007.11.03 09:45:00 - [15] Originally by: Gripen On the sisi windows can't be dragged partially offscreen. Can we have this ability back as it was very usefull? seconded otherwise, very nice work :-)
Dominator9987 Minmatar The Shambling Horde	Posted - 2007.11.03 11:45:00 - [16] i love the new ui, good work! Although I havnt submitted the bugs I have found the only annoying one is the one that when you paste a link or anything from clipboard, you have to type something for it to show up. (i usually just hit spacebar but don't think of this as a "hotfix")
Vanessa Vale	Posted - 2007.11.03 16:57:00 - [17] Please fix the colors on module activation. They are hard to see, and there shouldn't be.
FinrodFelagund Rome Rare Faction	Posted - 2007.11.03 18:49:00 - [18] Please fix the FC not being able to see who has fleet bonuses (as opposed to only yourself being able to see if you have bonuses) Also, please fix the lack of ammo changing button for all turrets.
Bob Biac Caldari Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.03 20:05:00 - [19] Any chance to get an option box to the effect of "Station services are always on top"?
HydroSan GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.03 22:41:00 - [20] "Warp scrambled" indicator might be nice.
dor amwar Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.04 09:46:00 - [21] have played a bit with the new ui but need to play a bit more before comments, looks like some good changes though. on-screen targeting of drones one thing i've noticed is that on-screen targeting of drones has gotten harder. sometimes not being targetable at all, even when they are stationary. it's as if the target activation area of the drones has been decreased.
Jaabaa Minmatar Dental Drilling Corporation	Posted - 2007.11.04 15:26:00 - [22] Originally by: HydroSan "Warp scrambled" indicator might be nice. Same applies to tracking disrupted and jammed. One 'little' thing I would really love to see is the bottom half of a module's outer ring being used as an activation timer. Some modules have activation times of up to 10 minutes (siege/triage/cyno gen), so having the bottom half go red at the start of the cycle and slowly turn green (just like a damage indicator) would be a nice addition. Maybe even a popup if you move your move over it to show the exact time remaining. BTW, the session timer popup doesn't automatically update unless you move your mouse about on top of it. -- EVE Mobile Skill Planner V2 http://evemsp.sourceforge.net/
ShinChan	Posted - 2007.11.04 15:39:00 - [23] How can I move windows outside the game windows? Ex:want to move my cargo window so it's half inside the game window and outside the game window? picture: Linkage half my cargo window is outside the game window. It is not possible to do in sisi atm.
Eraggan Sadarr Phoenix Tribe	Posted - 2007.11.04 21:10:00 - [24] Originally by: Jaabaa Originally by: HydroSan "Warp scrambled" indicator might be nice. Same applies to tracking disrupted and jammed. One 'little' thing I would really love to see is the bottom half of a module's outer ring being used as an activation timer. Some modules have activation times of up to 10 minutes (siege/triage/cyno gen), so having the bottom half go red at the start of the cycle and slowly turn green (just like a damage indicator) would be a nice addition. Maybe even a popup if you move your move over it to show the exact time remaining. BTW, the session timer popup doesn't automatically update unless you move your mouse about on top of it. I agree that a module activation timer would be nice. But I'd rather have it as a clock like timer, with a color not used before, like orange, yellow, blue etc. Eve Market Scanner
Zerb Berus	Posted - 2007.11.05 12:56:00 - [25] new UI is much better than the old one! CTRL is ur friend? yes ... but not allways :) if u could use shift and ctrl to select multiple objects on the overview/in_space and then tag(fleet option) more than one at once would make this feature much more useable (at least for me) A shortcut for ur most used tag-letter/number would also be cool. ctrl-doubleclick problem: if u use ctrl- leftclick to lock a target, miss it with ur crsor and click again too fast, ur ship will start moving this direction -> please disable doubleclick-navigation when holding down ctrl. Solarsystem map : !! A rightclick option to focus ur camera on an object would be great. Now(on sisi & tq) ur camera focuses only when u r in space, and then only when u (left)click a belt. (if u click a planet, moon or bookmark nothing happens) And please remove the camera distance reset on focus change. Reduce the need of 3rd party-tools: -> more power to the map better tactical overlay on solarsystem map: it is 2d but space isnt. a tool to draw spheres, like the weapon-range-spheres, but with custom radius, and from a custom object, would be a huge help for planning probe-deployment and other things. Star Map: The custom spheres (see above) would also be very cool here for capital jump planning. only the distance from systems to ur curernt location can be displayed and only via capital navigation window -> please make right-click (or any other option) to meashure distances. When docked, colours of solar systems r not as bright as they r when activating the map in space ... intended or bug? Overview: Symbols for player-frigs, cruisers, battleships look nearly the same. maybe new symbols would be useful, or customizeable highlighting of objects that machtes a customizeable filter. On sisi my <star map \| solarsystem map \| close>-window was moveable, but with the latest patch it isnt. .... intended or bug? Station: u can select: "merge items AND ships into station panel" maybe 2 seperate checkboxes for ships and items would be better. sorry for my english ;-)
Praesus Lecti Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.11.05 21:47:00 - [26] As I'm currently unable to log into SiSi to see this proposed new UI, I wish to pose the following questions: Can preferences for chat windows be set globally? For example in chat windows I have the smallest text size, no thumbnails, no player list. All I want to see is text. Every time a private chat opens up, I need to adjust that window to fit my preferences. Preferences need global settings. Can preferences for cans/wrecks be set globally? When opening a can, it defaults to the thumbnail display. I do not need to see the picture to know what item is present. I prefer the 'list' view with just text. I set it for a can, and the very next can goes right back to the thumbnail view. Annoying as hell. Can log text be truncated to varying preferences? I do not need to see the timestamp for every hit, nor do I need to see the excessively verbose descriptions on how my 425mm Prototype Gauss Gun lightly scratched a Gist War General. That is TOO LONG. All I need to see is "I hit a Gist War General for X damage." Speaking of combat damage, why does the default display sort by time descending when the window won't autoscroll to keep the pertinent information in the window? You have to manually change the sort every time. Ridiculous.
Katana Seiko Made in Germany	Posted - 2007.11.06 11:24:00 - [27] Funny thing: Open your ship's cargo and glue it to the top of the default local channel position. Next, open your items. glue that one to the right of your two windows and resize that one to the whole height of both the chat and the cargo... Now, close items, close cargo. Next, undock. Okay, so far so easy, now comes the part where the new UI is just inferior to the TQ one: Dock again, open your ship's cargo open items. The Items window now has the correct width, but something is wrong with the height. It's either glued to the chat or to the cargo and has the height of the window it was glued to. The height you originally had is all forgotten. Repair that, please... -- The future begins now - in EVE we live it, in real life we create it! Your sig is too big. Please keep it under 400x120 and less than 24000 byte. -the sexiest moderator ([email protected])
alpheon Caldari Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.06 19:00:00 - [28] I haven't seen the new UI stuff on SISI with my own eyes, but I have to comment that not being able to drag windows partially off screen is going to suck a lot. I rarely say anything in LOCAL, and even rarer want to see what others are saying, so I drag it half way off screen so I only see the names and color icon (friend or foe). this saves me a lot of space as the text area and names only get so small in width as is. Please restore the ability to move windows and interface panels beyond the borders of the visible screen. Thanks.
Sky Marshal Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.11.06 19:01:00 - [29] Edited by: Sky Marshal on 06/11/2007 19:01:20 Personaly, I would appreciate a way to make modules on top of the overview like it is on TQ, because the overview make them unusable if they are behind and I dislike use keyboard shortcuts or reduce overview size (not practical in fight). Hopefully I am a shield tanker so I have enough space to move hidden buttons to a better place.
Tonto Auri	Posted - 2007.11.06 19:52:00 - [30] Notice: I prefer ideas that not forcing me to abandon my accounts. -- Thanks CCP for cu<end of sig>
Iridium Kid	Posted - 2007.11.07 00:23:00 - [31] Editeble hotkeys, like all guns in one button, overload for web and disraptor in other. At least replace overload buttons, it`s sad when you rating in deep 0.0 and killing one of your modules
Rogerano Minmatar Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.11.07 02:10:00 - [32] I would like to be able to bind any and all actions (especially ship navigation functions) whatever key I like. There should be no limitations such as having to hold ctrl, alt, or shift. Add the following (and corresponding customisable key-bind where appropriate): - display reload all weapons menu, allowing ammo selection - allow the creation of module groups on a per-ship basis, where the activation of a group activates all modules in the group (this activation function comes with customisable key-bindings) - advanced implementation of above would allow customisation of activation order and timings, including over-heat - "any and all" mentioned above constitutes being able to activate MWD by pressing the "m" key, as an example Navigational interface improvements (because your ship is presumably a little more advanced than a WWI bi-plane): - at the least, include dragable on-screen controls for keep-distance and orbit default distances; both functions to be accessible by customisable key-binding - allow ship orbits to be visually manipulated by mouse-drag - distance and axis of rotation; accessed by customisable key-binding - change "keep-distance" to "shadowing" where ship automatically maintains same direction and speed as target, while maintaining a customisable distance (which is displayed as a dragable control on-screen); accessible by customisable key-binding - add "skirmish" mode where ship automatically positions itself to maintain a customisable distance (which is displayed as a dragable control on-screen) to the closest non-friendly ship; accessible by customisable key-binding - add a "maintain this transversal re target" navigation mode --- Not happy with something in EVE? An emo whine will doubtless help your cause.
Hikari Nakamuru Gallente Shugotenshi Genkuro	Posted - 2007.11.08 19:12:00 - [33] I'd love to have the ability to drag windows onto my other monitor. Is there any way that can be accomplished?
Jonny Stallsman	Posted - 2007.11.09 12:53:00 - [34] Edited by: Jonny Stallsman on 09/11/2007 12:55:38 Edited by: Jonny Stallsman on 09/11/2007 12:54:33 Add an "Align" button. TIA. Also bring able to deploy drone groups with a push of a key would be great. You would need to be able to bind a "launch" key to specific drone groups. But, add a god damn "Align" button already. Christ.
Deadly Huntress Mining Bytes Inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.11.09 18:29:00 - [35] I haven't logged in yet but can you make a "left-handed" mode? I'd prefer things like my overview and targets to start from the left side of my screen versus the right. Can we get some color scheme options on just our HUD too? I like my windows to be color scheme X but having say gray chat windows and then a blue hud would be kind of nice/cool. Also I like the global chat settings as it does get bothersome to constantly change this.
Delta3000 The Scope	Posted - 2007.11.10 15:33:00 - [36] Would like to see the main bar of icons, and station services have the same transparency effect as pinned windows. Purely for consistency.
Delta3000 The Scope	Posted - 2007.11.10 15:48:00 - [37] Can you make an option to Add Bookmark to Overview please? This is something I've always wanted, as fiddling with people and places during combat can make the difference between life or death :)
Tonto Auri	Posted - 2007.11.10 18:44:00 - [38] Originally by: Tonto Auri Originally by: CCP Gangleri Many of the people that regularly log on Sisi may have noticed frequent questions like: "Is the overview bugged? I can‘t resize it!" "Why are locked targets under the overview?" "Why do all info windows use the same window?" "Why can‘t I move all the overview windows together?" Shift is your friend CTRL isn‘t bad either Now it is supposed to use two hands to control interface. Great idea but what I can do if I not have that second hand? Any ideas? CCP, any answer? (Now I'm ready to "Cancel Your account" too) -- Thanks CCP for cu<end of sig>
Zathi Shaitan	Posted - 2007.11.11 04:15:00 - [39] Originally by: ShinChan How can I move windows outside the game windows? Ex:want to move my cargo window so it's half inside the game window and outside the game window? picture: Linkage half my cargo window is outside the game window. It is not possible to do in sisi atm. Yeah i'd like that too. However, everytime there is a patch with new stuff, lots of needed, wanted, loved features are hit with a nerf bat. I guess this awesome feature is, unfortunately, one of those.
Arkady Sadik Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.11.11 13:13:00 - [40] Originally by: alpheon Please restore the ability to move windows and interface panels beyond the borders of the visible screen. This. Please! My use is to move the Peoples&Places window out of the top so I only have the "add bookmark" button there, and can easily drag it back to "search for solarsystem." This is immensely useful.
Ontourage	Posted - 2007.11.13 14:23:00 - [41] I'm not liking the smaller sized icon set in the select window when you click on a warp to point versus a ship. Warping to a point at the right time can be equally as critical as getting the right target. I'd rather we went back to the same large sized icon set for all items in the select window.
Arkady Sadik Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.11.14 17:32:00 - [42] Double-clicking on a window shrinks it. That's a nice feature for some things, but for the target window - where I often spam the "warp to" or "jump" button - this can be rather devastating. Being in low structure, spamming the warp out button to get out, moving the mouse a bit, and suddenly having the window shrunk is ... disconcerting :-) This feature used to be configurable in the ESC menu, but I couldn't find the option anymore - is it around somewhere?
Brixer Dai Dai Hai	Posted - 2007.11.14 18:27:00 - [43] Edited by: Brixer on 14/11/2007 18:28:51 Feature request: * Never let anyone in your gang become auto-active target. (Hostile warps of grid and gang member is 'next' target ) Sending a Pack of Ogre IIs on a friendly which has already cried for armor will not score a lot of respect in a gang. It might get you podded tho
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron	Posted - 2007.11.14 21:01:00 - [44] Edited by: Razin on 14/11/2007 21:06:22 Originally by: Delta3000 Can you make an option to Add Bookmark to Overview please? This is something I've always wanted, as fiddling with people and places during combat can make the difference between life or death :) I'll second this one. In addition, it would be really helpful to be able to see bookmarks icons (with their names) in space (just like in the solar system map) for the purposes of aligning and better general situational awareness. [Edit]: I would also like to request the ability to freeze the update of the items in the overview while holding the 'ctrl' key to aid in situations when hundreds of ships continuously leave and enter the grid and change their relative position making it close to impossible to lock anything. ...
Dei Amarr Khanid Aerospace Group Khanid Provincial Authority	Posted - 2007.11.22 19:40:00 - [45] Has the target lineup option been taken out, or is it a bug. I may also be doing it completely wrong but I'm sure you could click on the target origin and it would give you an option to choose how many targets in a line you want. --- The true master paralyses his opponent, leaving him vulnerable to attack
ArchenTheGreat Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.27 08:20:00 - [46] I can't log into SiSi so can anyone tell me if overview is still transparent to clicks?
Cease n'Desist	Posted - 2007.11.27 08:54:00 - [47] Originally by: Tonto Auri Originally by: Tonto Auri Originally by: CCP Gangleri Many of the people that regularly log on Sisi may have noticed frequent questions like: "Is the overview bugged? I canæt resize it!" "Why are locked targets under the overview?" "Why do all info windows use the same window?" "Why canæt I move all the overview windows together?" Shift is your friend CTRL isnæt bad either Now it is supposed to use two hands to control interface. Great idea but what I can do if I not have that second hand? Any ideas? CCP, any answer? (Now I'm ready to "Cancel Your account" too) Toes?
Beann Loant Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.11.27 09:10:00 - [48] Please, please move the button bar on the left to the actual edge of the screen. As it is currently, there's a visible 1 pixel-wide gap between the buttons and the left edge of the screen, and the actual inactive zone (where mouse clicks don't do anything) on that edge is even wider. This is a stupid design bug that makes clicking the buttons unnecessarily hard. The buttons should really react to clicks at the edge of the screen.
gordon861 Minmatar Head Insurance Services	Posted - 2007.11.27 11:24:00 - [49] Can we have a 'save your overview settings' option ? Originally by: CCP Arkanon I frown on employees being power players to the extent that their gameplay results in any sort of domination over others. I donÆt believe CCP employees should run the EVE universe.
ZaKma Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.12.02 12:44:00 - [50] Where did the option to set how many locked targets we have in 1 row go? And can you please bring it back?
Marcus Agrippa	Posted - 2007.12.02 13:24:00 - [51] Originally by: Tonto Auri Originally by: Tonto Auri Now it is supposed to use two hands to control interface. Great idea but what I can do if I not have that second hand? Any ideas? CCP, any answer? (Now I'm ready to "Cancel Your account" too) Only suggestions I have are: 1. invest in a new mouse, with multiple programmable buttons - such as the Logitech MX-Laser - and use the software the mouse comes with to set shift and control onto mouse buttons; or 2. put something on the keyboard (small paperweight etc) to hold down the relevant key... Not elegant, but cheap...

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