Originally by: Val Vympel

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Originally by: BIlloreilly

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Edited by: BIlloreilly on 03/11/2007 11:59:07
Edited by: BIlloreilly on 03/11/2007 11:49:10
Edited by: BIlloreilly on 03/11/2007 11:48:12




I had a alt named Futtbucker once and it got changed by a GM.



Why are people able to use S******dly (******dly) as corp names when Futtbucker and the other 2 are not even words?

http://evevault.ign.com/

^^ sence the filter works on this corps name goto the site above to see it. I am not gonna mask and say it. I find it offensive.

I expect this corp named that to be changed ASAP.. to Corp44567890

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Well perhaps the reason they are able to use them(******edly for example) is because it is recognized word in the English language.(political correctness aside...the word is not derogatory).

Futtbucker is a play on a word.
Anybody with sense can recognize it's vulgar origin.

Suppose I created a character with the name "Klit Oris",I would hope and expect the name to be changed. It is not a clever play on words and it's intended meaning cannot be argued.

Keep vulgarity where it belongs...in the rubbish bin.

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Originally by: Futtbucker

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Edited by: Futtbucker on 03/11/2007 12:53:02

Originally by: Val Vympel

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Originally by: BIlloreilly

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Edited by: BIlloreilly on 03/11/2007 11:59:07
Edited by: BIlloreilly on 03/11/2007 11:49:10
Edited by: BIlloreilly on 03/11/2007 11:48:12




I had a alt named Futtbucker once and it got changed by a GM.



Why are people able to use S******dly (******dly) as corp names when Futtbucker and the other 2 are not even words?

http://evevault.ign.com/

^^ sence the filter works on this corps name goto the site above to see it. I am not gonna mask and say it. I find it offensive.

I expect this corp named that to be changed ASAP.. to Corp44567890

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Well perhaps the reason they are able to use them(******edly for example) is because it is recognized word in the English language.(political correctness aside...the word is not derogatory).

Futtbucker is a play on a word.
Anybody with sense can recognize it's vulgar origin.

Suppose I created a character with the name "Klit Oris",I would hope and expect the name to be changed. It is not a clever play on words and it's intended meaning cannot be argued.

Keep vulgarity where it belongs...in the rubbish bin.

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You better find a better dictionary. Urban dictionaries do not count.

KK THNX , try again!

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Originally by: Laura Steel

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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire

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Quite easy to decide acceptable or unacceptable. If you have to ask CCP, GMs, mods, friends, parents or EULA then it is unacceptable.

Hope it helps. :)

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And what if those people have different opinions?

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Originally by: Val Vympel

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Originally by: Futtbucker

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Edited by: Futtbucker on 03/11/2007 12:53:02

Originally by: Val Vympel

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Originally by: BIlloreilly

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Edited by: BIlloreilly on 03/11/2007 11:59:07
Edited by: BIlloreilly on 03/11/2007 11:49:10
Edited by: BIlloreilly on 03/11/2007 11:48:12





I had a alt named Futtbucker once and it got changed by a GM.



Why are people able to use S******dly (******dly) as corp names when Futtbucker and the other 2 are not even words?

http://evevault.ign.com/

^^ sence the filter works on this corps name goto the site above to see it. I am not gonna mask and say it. I find it offensive.

I expect this corp named that to be changed ASAP.. to Corp44567890

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Well perhaps the reason they are able to use them(******edly for example) is because it is recognized word in the English language.(political correctness aside...the word is not derogatory).

Futtbucker is a play on a word.
Anybody with sense can recognize it's vulgar origin.

Suppose I created a character with the name "Klit Oris",I would hope and expect the name to be changed. It is not a clever play on words and it's intended meaning cannot be argued.

Keep vulgarity where it belongs...in the rubbish bin.

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You better find a better dictionary. Urban dictionaries do not count.

KK THNX , try again!

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Ok!...I was one letter off.
*****rdly...now are you content?

Your ire against my original post is simply "picking knits",
in a lame attempt to defend your use of a vulgar play on words.

"Futtbucker" is not a funny,clever or appropriate name.

So...TRY AGAIN

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Originally by: Pajamas Jack

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So you object to them putting the S on the front of their name? By using the S it changed a legit word to a slang? Or am i missing something here?

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Originally by: Pajamas Jack

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Originally by: Futtbucker

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Originally by: Pajamas Jack

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So you object to them putting the S on the front of their name? By using the S it changed a legit word to a slang? Or am i missing something here?

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Ok so then why is the word filtered here? btw, ******edly is not a word!

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Yes it is.

And many legit words are filtered here because the filter only sees a string of letters..not the whole word.

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Originally by: Pajamas Jack

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Edited by: Pajamas Jack on 03/11/2007 13:36:10
Linkage

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Originally by: Pajamas Jack

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Edited by: Pajamas Jack on 03/11/2007 13:37:33
Edited by: Pajamas Jack on 03/11/2007 13:36:49
Websters




*****rdly
One entry found.

*****rdly

Main Entry:
nig+gard+ly Listen to the pronunciation of *****rdly
Pronunciation:
\-lē\
Function:
adjective
Date:
1571

1 : grudgingly mean about spending or granting : begrudging 2 : provided in meanly limited supply
synonyms see stingy
ù nig+gard+li+ness noun
ù *****rdly adverb

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Originally by: Pajamas Jack

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Originally by: Futtbucker

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There is no such thing as snig ger(dly)

Quit trying!

it is a play on a racialy offensive word.

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Again im going to have to disagree here. You are just trying to make into a racial issue. You are standing on your soapbox flapping your arms and screeching till your lungs busrt. You are trying to do everything you can to make it a racial issue tbh.

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Originally by: Steve Hawkings

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Edited by: Steve Hawkings on 03/11/2007 13:55:10

Originally by: Futtbucker

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Edited by: Futtbucker on 03/11/2007 13:49:20
Edited by: Futtbucker on 03/11/2007 13:48:30

Originally by: Pajamas Jack

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Originally by: Futtbucker

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There is no such thing as snig ger(dly)

Quit trying!

it is a play on a racialy offensive word.

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Again im going to have to disagree here. You are just trying to make into a racial issue. You are standing on your soapbox flapping your arms and screeching till your lungs busrt. You are trying to do everything you can to make it a racial issue tbh.

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I am a Afro-American and I found it offensive.

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Thats your problem then im afraid m8,
Snig-ger, without the -, is a well know english word, the term is nothing to do with racism.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/S******

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Originally by: Pajamas Jack

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Definition
s****** Show phonetics
verb [I] (US ALSO snicker)
to laugh at someone or something childishly and often unkindly:
They spent half the time s******ing at the clothes people were wearing.
What are you two s******ing at/about?

s****** Show phonetics
noun [C]
We were having a s****** at the bride who was rather large and dressed in a tight pale pink dress.



Doesn't not sound racial to me at all. No matter how hard you try to make it so.

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Originally by: Andrue

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Edited by: Andrue on 03/11/2007 14:29:05

Originally by: Futtbucker

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Edited by: Futtbucker on 03/11/2007 14:22:43
Edited by: Futtbucker on 03/11/2007 14:21:36




so can they make a corp name with s******?

Everyone knows this is a play on ******

cause s******dly is not a word in any dictionary in the world!

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Everyone does not know that. People that are in possession of the facts (and those that can be bothered to follow the link I posted) show that it probably dates back to the very early 18th century. The dictionaries I checked give an approximate date of 1706. ****** OTOH appears to have appeared nearly a hundred years later. Even then it wasn't considered particularly offensive until very recently.

The rhyme 'Ten Little Indians' wasn't originally called that and society in general didn't think that the original version was offensive.

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Originally by: Andrue

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Originally by: Futtbucker

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Edited by: Futtbucker on 03/11/2007 14:30:42

Originally by: Andrue

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Edited by: Andrue on 03/11/2007 14:29:05

Originally by: Futtbucker

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Edited by: Futtbucker on 03/11/2007 14:22:43
Edited by: Futtbucker on 03/11/2007 14:21:36




so can they make a corp name with s******?

Everyone knows this is a play on ******

cause s******dly is not a word in any dictionary in the world!

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Everyone does not know that. People that are in possession of the facts (and those that can be bothered to follow the link I posted) show that it probably dates back to the very early 18th century. The dictionaries I checked give an approximate date of 1706. ****** OTOH appears to have appeared nearly a hundred years later. Even then it wasn't considered particularly offensive until very recently.

The rhyme 'Ten Little Indians' wasn't originally called that and society in general didn't think that the original version was offensive.

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Especialy with the UK's history of slavery.
Yeah , I wonder how good that would hold up in court?

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It wouldn't even come to court. Laws cannot be applied retrospectively.

Or perhaps you didn't understand my point? Words change over time. The point I was making was that 's******' predates '******'. Furthermore neither word was originally considered offensive. The fact that one word has since become offensive and even in some contexts illegal has no baring on the other word.

Or are you going to ban 'twit' on the grounds that in some countries with a change of vowel it is considered vulgar slang for female genitalia? As another example of how stupdid 'censorship by spelling' is - that same word in the UK is generally considered to be a variation of 'twit'. The vulgar has been consiged to history.

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Originally by: Snake Doctor

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Edited by: Snake Doctor on 03/11/2007 15:24:04
Okay, okay, okay enough's enough.

I'll step out of normal character here for a second due to the nature of the discussion and say this:

I can see where this thread is going and I don't like it. Please be respectful of others, even if you're only ribbing them.

Understand that there are many words (in the English language especially) that are offensive to others. Understanding both the intent and the etymology of those words is equally as important as the word itself. Taking a word like "******" and saying it applies to the word "S******" would be incorrect. To get upset about it would be fruitless. Etymology of the word does not match the one you've just given it.

Words only have power when given. To those who wish to offend others with a word: stop. Conversely, to those who wish to find offense in a word: lighten up, there may be many different uses and spellings of a word that are unoffensive.

As a member of (2) minority groups myself, I've come across many derogatory terms (aimed at me) in my time, and have never once given any time to it. While it is inconsiderate of the other person to deride me, it would be a waste entirely to get upset about the situation.

So---

Take a time out here a second from this thread.
Step back, calm down, and please come back in a fashion that takes neither side, as someone is bound to start a fight.

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Originally by: Tek'a Rain

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Originally by: Fabrice Enchante

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Frankly, CCP does not really enforce its own policy:

ACCOUNT USERNAMES AND PASSWORDS

* a. EVE Online account usernames must contain at least four alphanumeric characters, may not contain spaces or unconventional characters and must not be vulgar, obscene, ethnically, racially or sexually offensive or otherwise inappropriate.

I don't think there's any grey area here. If someone puts them on notice that a name is offensive and they don't do anything about it, their policy is worthless. Harassment is defined by the person being harassed, not by the person doing the harassment. This is a global game, and if they say they are going to not allow names that ethnically or racially offensive, they should train their employees to recognize those names and act on them.

CCP needs to take more responsibility for enforcing their own rules in their game world. Yes, Eve is unique in the amount of freedom the players have to create the world, but there are certain outlets for "creativity" that do not add anything to the game and in fact detract from the experience for many players.

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Technically the eula is talking about Account names (see where it says account?) in the quoted bit you provided. ie: the account name you type with password while logging in, and not the character name you select afterwards.

Thats neither here nor there.

Most (reasonable) people would agree that futtbucker would be offensive or an attempt at masking an offensive word, and most (reasonable) people would agree that those SNIGG pilots have a perfectly acceptable corporate name and are not trying to be vewy vewy sneaky racists or some such foolishness.

Im sure SNIGG is equally happy to laugh unpleasantly at anyones misfortune, race and class not being an issue.

Op gets a 2/10 (worth making fun of) for original troll post, but blindly repeating themselves and attempting to call a race-card into play reduced score to 1/10 (wasting everyones time)

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Originally by: BubbaZanetti

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Edited by: BubbaZanetti on 03/11/2007 21:35:55

Originally by: Futtbucker

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My name is legal

anything with the word ****** in it is not

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"S******dly" doesn't have the word "******" in it anymore than "annoying ******* drama queen" has the words "no", "king", or "que" in it.

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Originally by: Kalica Kahn

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Haha the only time I've seen someone complain about Snigg's corp name, and it's from some clown that tried to be funny and called himself "Futtbucker" and got b****slapped by a GM for it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Now you know what it's like to be owned

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Originally by: Flex Nebura

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snigg
<zoology> A small eel.

Origin: Cf. Sneak.

Source: Websters Dictionary

(01 Mar 1998)



Snig would be just fine.

s******dly is unacceptable

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Originally by: Paulo Damarr

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Edited by: Paulo Damarr on 04/11/2007 01:48:12
If your so bothered send a damn petition. BTW I should pettition you my 8 year old nephew saw "Futtbucker" and was asking everyone "what does Butt****** mean?"

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Originally by: Athiven SkyWolf

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Edited by: Athiven SkyWolf on 04/11/2007 01:50:35

Originally by:
...found in the works of such writers of the past as Joseph Conrad, Mark Twain, and Charles ****ens, but it now ranks as perhaps the most offensive and inflammatory racial slur in English. Its use by and among blacks is not always intended or taken as offensive, but, except in sense 3, it is otherwise a word expressive of racial hatred and bigotry.
...[/quote

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LOL, one of the most known english authors gets filtered... this is getting ridiculous.

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reason S******dly has to put a S in front of their corp name. ******dly would not work