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GM Retrofire Game Masters	Posted - 2007.11.07 19:00:00 - [1] Mac: - Client does not notice when connection is lost and therefore does not properly close. In rare occasions the client will become non-responsive, black screen and need to be closed manually. - There is currently no support for Unicode which is causing Japanese, Russian and Korean letters to show up as squares. If you find new issues. Please bug report them. Here: https://bugs.eve-online.com/newbugreport.asp? Feedback on the deployment can be posted here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=630549

Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.07 22:38:00 - [2] Edited by: Rells on 07/11/2007 22:39:35 - Does not work properly on case sensitive filesystems. - Esc key doesnt work when using it on MacBook Pro. This makes it hard to get to the options from the opening screen. Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
ModestyBlaise	Posted - 2007.11.08 02:31:00 - [3] Originally by: Rells Edited by: Rells on 07/11/2007 22:39:35 - Does not work properly on case sensitive filesystems. - Esc key doesnt work when using it on MacBook Pro. This makes it hard to get to the options from the opening screen. ESC works fine on my MacBook Pro/Leopard. KeS
Bleiz Athannar	Posted - 2007.11.08 07:33:00 - [4] ESC works fine on my Macbook Pro/10.4.10. The other shortcuts don't seem to work.
Taris Arrathan Minmatar Omniscient Order Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.11.08 08:14:00 - [5] Originally by: ModestyBlaise Originally by: Rells Edited by: Rells on 07/11/2007 22:39:35 - Does not work properly on case sensitive filesystems. - Esc key doesnt work when using it on MacBook Pro. This makes it hard to get to the options from the opening screen. ESC works fine on my MacBook Pro/Leopard. KeS ESC works fine here. MacBook Pro 2.33/3GB RAM Mac OS X 10.5

CCP Casqade	Posted - 2007.11.08 14:06:00 - [6] We have Transgaming devs, CCP devs and GM Retrofire regularly checking these forums, so please keep bug reporting and posting about issues and workarounds.

Simone Novastorm	Posted - 2007.11.08 17:48:00 - [7] I'm getting stuck at the character selection screen. It fails to load all three chars and hangs. I have to power down to get out. Last time I had to wait 30 mins for spotlight to do its thing again. I got through into the game on Tuesday, so this seems to be a random thing.
Rells Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.08 18:01:00 - [8] Originally by: Bleiz Athannar ESC works fine on my Macbook Pro/10.4.10. The other shortcuts don't seem to work. From the login page? Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken!
Bleiz Athannar	Posted - 2007.11.08 18:26:00 - [9] Originally by: Rells Originally by: Bleiz Athannar ESC works fine on my Macbook Pro/10.4.10. The other shortcuts don't seem to work. From the login page? Not from the login page, no. I'm told it's not supposed to.
HugoBrainz Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2007.11.08 19:02:00 - [10] I get lots of error messages popping up in-game but it has not affected the gameplay. I just click 'ok' and continue. I assume CCP has access to the game logs anyway.
Tonshino	Posted - 2007.11.08 19:05:00 - [11] MacBook Pro running Tiger. Only noticed minor issues: - No windowed mode availiable (maybe intentional?) - All module images in ship fitting window screwed up - bad bitmap data like when loading an incomplete jpg. Can post screenshot if you want. - Very slow on undocking from a station. No biggie really. Other than that it works like a charm. Great work CCP! /Ton
Dxxx	Posted - 2007.11.08 22:39:00 - [12] I can't bring up the menu with escape either, any other way to bring it up?
William Darkk Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.08 23:01:00 - [13] Originally by: CCP Casqade We have Transgaming devs, CCP devs and GM Retrofire regularly checking these forums, so please keep bug reporting and posting about issues and workarounds. Any official comment on the massive drop in performance from beta client (or pc client) to release client? -------------------------------------------------- <3 my Drones
Nilcar Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2007.11.08 23:02:00 - [14] My in window mini-maps are all garbled. Other than that and some mouse issues. Totally playable.
AhSoul	Posted - 2007.11.08 23:08:00 - [15] Edited by: AhSoul on 08/11/2007 23:08:28 mine is crashing regular with a message about abnormal program termination in a .exe file (which seems odd considering I assume I don't have any .exe files since im on OSX) running leopard and on 14 day trial, if that makes any difference
Nilcar Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2007.11.08 23:39:00 - [16] Originally by: AhSoul Edited by: AhSoul on 08/11/2007 23:08:28 mine is crashing regular with a message about abnormal program termination in a .exe file (which seems odd considering I assume I don't have any .exe files since im on OSX) running leopard and on 14 day trial, if that makes any difference Experiencing the same issue, however it restarts the program and says the server disconnected, dont know if it is actually crashing or crashing because the server disconnected?
Oslo Ver	Posted - 2007.11.09 02:49:00 - [17] Originally by: AhSoul Edited by: AhSoul on 08/11/2007 23:08:28 mine is crashing regular with a message about abnormal program termination in a .exe file (which seems odd considering I assume I don't have any .exe files since im on OSX) running leopard and on 14 day trial, if that makes any difference I'm also getting this crash consistently on a macbook pro, OS X 10.5, 14 day trial.
Mal Plox Keepers of Balance Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.11.09 06:08:00 - [18] Is there an ETA for Unicode Support? Even though i don't have any problems with my Mac client, not being bale to read russian just kills it for me. --- And no, Internet isn't broken! Well, it is... but not in the way you think of it.
Encad Briht Minmatar Space-Bar FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.11.09 08:35:00 - [19] If you put in on the Dock it creates a second item there, when the client is started. Germany Charset doesnt work either Some minor graphical Issues with Hardner, Debris.. gets usually corrected if completly redrawn, looks like a texture issue. running it on MBP 2,2 Ghz with GF 8600M GT
Renim Ym	Posted - 2007.11.09 13:17:00 - [20] Still having unexplained complete freezes. If one doesn't run in windowed mode, the only way to get out of it is to power down/power up again. (Windows doesn't need emulating -this- well...). Relevant info: MBP, ATI X1600 card, 2Gb RAM, all files stored in a clear folder (not filevaulted). Freezes happen at random, but usually involve some shooty-shooty, whether it be NPC's or PVP. (This has cost me 3 ships already...). The precursor to it is that everything starts lagging like crazy, graphics wise. Then you get a slide-show of 1 frame per 10 seconds, and then everything just stops responding altogether. Will be going back to bootcamp for the time being, at least that worked :/
Baron Erique Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.11.09 17:26:00 - [21] Twice now the game time (clock in the lower-left) has sped up to an extreme rate. The first time I was in a station and I watched the date get all the way to 2008/01/21 before resuming the normal, realtime rate. The game was fine but I quit and started again so I could have the proper date and time. The second time I was mining and I saw the clock start to speed up but then the game went into "slideshow mode", then froze. I was able to command-tab out and force quit. I'm running on a 1st-gen Core Duo iMac, Leopard. I've already filed a bug report.
Richard Gee Caldari The Flying Mongooses	Posted - 2007.11.10 01:21:00 - [22] I'm not sure if this is Leapord that I just updated to or the Mac Client. But every time I load Eve's client the mouse starts to "stutter." Every 10 seconds or so the mouse will freeze, be it my MBP trackpad or my bluetooth mouse. The cursor will just freeze and you can't move it. What makes this really bad is this persists through to the desktop and normal OSX usage after Eve has been closed or Alt Tabbed away from. I'm not sure if I sure if this is OS X or Eve related. Never forget, a Jack-of-all-trades is master of none.
Blue Wraith	Posted - 2007.11.10 06:21:00 - [23] Cannot run two clients without making a second copy of the Eve app and running that. When trying to run two clients in full-screen mode, first client will not accept mouse input. Sometimes it will not accept it on any part of the screen, but sometimes it's only certain parts of the screen. Client will crash sometimes when running the second client. Crash report can be found here.
Joff Dagara	Posted - 2007.11.10 07:15:00 - [24] Originally by: Nilcar My in window mini-maps are all garbled. Other than that and some mouse issues. Totally playable. Second that. I have the same problem with the minimaps, but everything else seems fine. I did have it die abnormally when I lost connection. Cheers.
Jachim Gram	Posted - 2007.11.10 11:05:00 - [25] Originally by: AhSoul Edited by: AhSoul on 08/11/2007 23:08:28 mine is crashing regular with a message about abnormal program termination in a .exe file (which seems odd considering I assume I don't have any .exe files since im on OSX) running leopard and on 14 day trial, if that makes any difference Exact same problem here! (MacBook Pro, 10.4.10)
Zarathuztra	Posted - 2007.11.10 18:55:00 - [26] how do I run to clients at the same time
Aledrinker	Posted - 2007.11.10 19:25:00 - [27] Is the sound supposed to be that bad or does the Firewave not work well with Cider?
William Darkk Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.10 19:52:00 - [28] Originally by: ModestyBlaise Originally by: Rells Edited by: Rells on 07/11/2007 22:39:35 - Does not work properly on case sensitive filesystems. - Esc key doesnt work when using it on MacBook Pro. This makes it hard to get to the options from the opening screen. ESC works fine on my MacBook Pro/Leopard. KeS I had a problem with my esc key once, but it doesn't seem to happen very often. Mac Pro/Leopard. -------------------------------------------------- <3 my Drones
Brom Staler	Posted - 2007.11.10 23:27:00 - [29] Also do not have any labels on the Price History graph, nor any labels in the Price History graph.
Garand Delmas	Posted - 2007.11.11 11:14:00 - [30] I'm on a Mac Pro with a Radeon X1900. In general, the client looks and runs great. I had one problem today where I couldn't undock from a space station - the cursor changed to have a little drop-down triangle (?) but I couldn't get out. That's when I noticed that ESC no longer worked. I guess this is a reasonably common problem. I used command-Q to quit, but obviously it's a bit inconvenient to have to do that.
Taris Arrathan Minmatar Omniscient Order Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.11.11 11:53:00 - [31] Originally by: CCP Casqade We have Transgaming devs, CCP devs and GM Retrofire regularly checking these forums, so please keep bug reporting and posting about issues and workarounds. I would like to see more communication from Transgaming. It is a forum, not a one way communication. We have post a lot of bugs and problems last days, now it would be nice to get some comments back. When can we expect updates etc etc.. MacBook Pro 2.33/3GB RAM Mac OS X 10.5
Darcin Swift	Posted - 2007.11.11 21:59:00 - [32] Edited by: Darcin Swift on 11/11/2007 22:00:16 Not sure if I should post this or not since I have a MacBook, not a MBP, and it's obvious that integrated graphics were not the target of EVE. However, it seems playable for the most part. Unfortunately, whenever you get near an asteroid, either the mining colony from the starter tutorial or another asteroid belt in the same starter system, the screen starts to flip between the actual scene and a texture map file. At least that is what it seems. Sometimes I can angle the camera to solve it for a bit, but eventually I get too close and it happens again. I also get screen sheering, where a floating window gets pasted to the environment instead. The window still works fine, but it's really strange flying through space and seeing the UI as part of the scene in space. I decided to see if this situation is also prevalent within XP Pro that I have via Boot Camp. There, the game worked just fine, no sheering or texture flipping. Nothing out of the ordinary at all. So, the problem definitely appears to be Mac OS related, most likely the difference between using Open GL vs. Direct X. Still, it would be nice to be playable on the MacBook. The cost of the MBP is out of range for many that would like to play EVE. As it is, I might play through the free subscription, but unless they make it playable on the MacBook, I'll just go back to playing WoW. MacBook - 1.83ghz - 2gb RAM - GMA 950
Mahandra Hunter	Posted - 2007.11.11 23:42:00 - [33] Macbook Pro 2.4ghz, 2g ram Nvidia 8600M GT. On the journal Mission Details screen what I think it supposed to be a minimap is completely garbled - also on the Map Browser in map view (F10). Also had one screen-to-black incident (the screen went...er..black. All the popups worked perfectly, I just couldn't see anything in the station or outside. Had to re-log to clear it. I was also running Skype at the time). Also, occasional chop in combat.
Garand Delmas	Posted - 2007.11.12 01:19:00 - [34] After my (Mac Pro/X1900) went funny and the esc key stopped working, the client became rabidy unstable, and would freeze up after 10 seconds to a minute of use. Reinstalling and deleting the preferences file didn't help, but a reboot did. I'd love to know what became corrupted. I'd open a bug report, but I don't know how to reproduce it yet.
DarkHelmut The Ankou The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.11.12 01:34:00 - [35] esc does not work in windowed mode. is there a way to get to options without hitting esc?
Hurro Wassoup	Posted - 2007.11.12 09:17:00 - [36] Originally by: Darcin Swift Edited by: Darcin Swift on 11/11/2007 22:00:16 Not sure if I should post this or not since I have a MacBook, not a MBP, and it's obvious that integrated graphics were not the target of EVE. However, it seems playable for the most part. Unfortunately, whenever you get near an asteroid, either the mining colony from the starter tutorial or another asteroid belt in the same starter system, the screen starts to flip between the actual scene and a texture map file. Yes, me too (on a MacBook like yours). Screen shots, luckily: Glitch 1 Glitch 2
Azrael Larsa	Posted - 2007.11.12 11:15:00 - [37] Hey Darcin / Hurro, I'm getting precisely the same trippy problems. Thought I was the only one up till now! It was suggested on another forum that I switch the depth buffer off but this seems to have little effect. I've filed a bug report complete with similar screenshots but told that this was insufficient information...? The only possible cause I can think of is maybe the graphics card as I'm also using a GMA950.. Please let me know if you have any joy with this problem as it is making the game unplayable!! Thanks guys.

CCP Casqade	Posted - 2007.11.12 14:55:00 - [38] Originally by: Taris Arrathan Originally by: CCP Casqade We have Transgaming devs, CCP devs and GM Retrofire regularly checking these forums, so please keep bug reporting and posting about issues and workarounds. I would like to see more communication from Transgaming. It is a forum, not a one way communication. We have post a lot of bugs and problems last days, now it would be nice to get some comments back. When can we expect updates etc etc.. I'll try to encourage them to post some updates here.

William Darkk Gallente Vengeance of the Fallen Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.12 17:47:00 - [39] Originally by: CCP Casqade Originally by: Taris Arrathan Originally by: CCP Casqade We have Transgaming devs, CCP devs and GM Retrofire regularly checking these forums, so please keep bug reporting and posting about issues and workarounds. I would like to see more communication from Transgaming. It is a forum, not a one way communication. We have post a lot of bugs and problems last days, now it would be nice to get some comments back. When can we expect updates etc etc.. I'll try to encourage them to post some updates here. Preferably an update about the whole "huge performance drop between beta and release" thing. Seems like someone goofed. -------------------------------------------------- <3 my Drones
Trolli Temple	Posted - 2007.11.12 17:50:00 - [40] Originally by: Jachim Gram Originally by: AhSoul Edited by: AhSoul on 08/11/2007 23:08:28 mine is crashing regular with a message about abnormal program termination in a .exe file (which seems odd considering I assume I don't have any .exe files since im on OSX) running leopard and on 14 day trial, if that makes any difference Exact same problem here! (MacBook Pro, 10.4.10) I am also experiencing this problem. 14 day trial, MacBook Pro, 10.14.10.
Talus Ytter	Posted - 2007.11.12 17:51:00 - [41] MBP 2.16 GHz, 2GB RAM, RadeonX1600 (128 MB) Esc works fin in non-windowed mode. I have seen plenty of random disconnects, exceptions in the .exe (yes .exe on a Mac), and one hard hang that required a reboot. The client can be stable for hours at a time, and then suddenly become quite unstable. No graphics lag, or graphics tearing.
Pusemuckel	Posted - 2007.11.12 18:08:00 - [42] Game crashes every 2-5minutes after launch and freezes the screen so i have to do a hard reset with the reset-button. It's not playable like this. system: macbook pro 1,8Ghz revision 1, 1GB RAM, OSX 10.5
Joeseph Gnosis	Posted - 2007.11.12 19:10:00 - [43] Standard editing commands (Copy, Paste, Cut, Select All) should be mapped to the Command (Apple) key and not to Control. Connection failure issues need to be properly resolved. Would be nice if CMD-W closed a window and CMD-SHIFT-W closed all opened windows.
Soledad Miranda	Posted - 2007.11.12 20:20:00 - [44] Originally by: Trolli Temple Originally by: Jachim Gram Originally by: AhSoul Edited by: AhSoul on 08/11/2007 23:08:28 mine is crashing regular with a message about abnormal program termination in a .exe file (which seems odd considering I assume I don't have any .exe files since im on OSX) running leopard and on 14 day trial, if that makes any difference Exact same problem here! (MacBook Pro, 10.4.10) I am also experiencing this problem. 14 day trial, MacBook Pro, 10.14.10. Same here. iMac 2.16Ghz on Tiger. There is a whole thread about this here (Lost Connection). I was so happy when i heard about the mac client but that way it is just not playable. :( Any reaction from the devs? I'd be happy about a simple: "We're looking into it.", so I know they acknowlege the problem. cheers
Mahandra Hunter	Posted - 2007.11.12 23:37:00 - [45] I have now twice exited the game and had Finder relaunch (ie crash) on me. Anyone I can send a crash log to?
SenorSpancho	Posted - 2007.11.13 05:15:00 - [46] -Massive performance lose when warping into deadspace with +10 enemy ships. Works fine with many ally/neutral ship. -Icons and textures flash on and off the screen, some times taking up more than 50% of screen space. The items shown never stay on screen for more than a fraction of a second.
Istaria Fenice	Posted - 2007.11.13 08:13:00 - [47] I'm running a first gen. Intel iMac 2.0GHz, 2GB RAM, OS X 10.5. I've had countless crashes where the program locks up and I have to force quit out of it (although the sound keeps going). Also, I can't seem to get it to offer me the choice to run in windowed mode. And finally, there is a bug when command-tabbing, the EVE icon doesn't appear nor do all the applications to the right of it. (And I get the strange double icon in the dock sporadically).
Zareph Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.13 15:43:00 - [48] Originally by: Istaria Fenice Also, I can't seem to get it to offer me the choice to run in windowed mode. one of the better kept secrets is apple-enter fixes that. there is no option in the drop down though, you just hit apple-enter to toggle between While all answers are replies, not all replies are answers.
Garand Delmas	Posted - 2007.11.14 01:03:00 - [49] Originally by: Istaria Fenice I've had countless crashes where the program locks up and I have to force quit out of it (although the sound keeps going). Yes, and once it gets like this (for me) it stays like this. Usually only lasts a minute before freezing. Quote: Massive performance lose when warping into deadspace with +10 enemy ships. Works fine with many ally/neutral ship. I've also had a couple of dreadful slowdowns when there were lots of enemy ships in the area. I'm on a quad-core Mac Pro so it's probably not a lack of horsepower.
Da Duke	Posted - 2007.11.14 08:45:00 - [50] Same as many of you - MacBook Pro running Leopard - I get random crashes when I have to power the whole thing down - esc key works fine but others garbled - maybe cause I am using a Danish keyboard? Time is also wrong and out by a fair amount which itself keeps changing. Apart from that....loving it!!! Been waiting a long time for this!
Benko Dub	Posted - 2007.11.14 23:32:00 - [51] Originally by: Zareph Originally by: Istaria Fenice Also, I can't seem to get it to offer me the choice to run in windowed mode. one of the better kept secrets is apple-enter fixes that. there is no option in the drop down though, you just hit apple-enter to toggle between I'll have to try this out. I have regular crashes after about 30 mins of gameplay and since i'm not windowed I have to hard boot to get out. Interestingly the mouse still works even after the keyboard and UI freezes up. Hopefully running windowed will at least allow me to force quite the program. I'm running a Macbook core2Duo 2Ghz with 2GB ram
Travelyan Skype	Posted - 2007.11.14 23:46:00 - [52] Macbook Pro running Tiger - no option for 'windowed' mode, forced to run game fullscreen. So I bootcamp into Windows and get this functionality from the Windows client.
Daan Sai HAZCON Inc Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.15 00:29:00 - [53] Originally by: Travelyan Skype Macbook Pro running Tiger - no option for 'windowed' mode, forced to run game fullscreen. So I bootcamp into Windows and get this functionality from the Windows client. In the recent blog they said "command-enter" toggles window mode. This doesn't work, but "command-return" does. Looks like the writer was a PC user where they have slightly different keyboard terminology for return vs enter keys - they are different on a standard mac keyboard. I got window mode working, and it is fine. I can do some other things on my computer at the same time now, yay.
Daan Sai HAZCON Inc Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.15 00:41:00 - [54] That said, it doesn't remember your window/fullscreen setting and always starts up in fullscreen mode - even if you quit while in window mode.
skeandu	Posted - 2007.11.15 05:52:00 - [55] Seeing freezeups when in multiple bang bang shooting action - keyboard and trackpad go away so bounce power only out. Otherwise ok so far but am only a rookie. BootCamp works fine. Using MBP/Leopard. Has anyone with MBPs found constant fan-running? Client using a lot of CPU and running the box extremely hot? My video card is the stock nVidia GeForce 8600M GT. Would another type of card or a settings tweak get the heat output down?
VuDu Child	Posted - 2007.11.15 11:36:00 - [56] I run Leopard on a MBP, and when running Vista Ultimate with Boot Camp and using the windows eve client, my fan runs constantly like you describe. When the mac client works, which is rare, that behavior is not displayed.
Grok Newbie Minmatar	Posted - 2007.11.15 12:50:00 - [57] i noticed in the kb about uninstalling EVE: [cite] How do I uninstall EVE on Mac? To remove a game: 1. Drag the EVE Online icon from the Applications folder to the trash. 2. Drag the users preferences folder ( located under /Users/username/Library/Preferences/Eve Online/Preferences/p_drive/Local Settings/Application Data/CCP/EVE. ) to the trash. [/cite] Actually, also this plist must be removed: ~/Library/Preferences/com.transgaming.EVEOnline.plist to be complete.
Grok Newbie Minmatar	Posted - 2007.11.16 02:12:00 - [58] after playing for 30 hours with only a few hours of sleep (yeah i know, eve's addictive...) i think i am quite sure about at least one way to help in the worst cases: either you have a single freeze/crash every now and then (6 h-ly, or so), and twice i had major problems with consecutive freezes, which take very many restarts to stop. the first time i wiped the whole game, which is not such a gorgeous solution, the second time after a few crashes i just logged in and out of osx (i noticed the first time that eve actually does not die completely after crashing, there are plenty of threads still alive), and could continue gaming without problems. so if you have the problem that the game crashes continuesly, just relog and post if it helped for you, too.
Dors Venabily	Posted - 2007.11.17 04:37:00 - [59] Originally by: Richard Gee I'm not sure if this is Leapord that I just updated to or the Mac Client. But every time I load Eve's client the mouse starts to "stutter." Every 10 seconds or so the mouse will freeze, be it my MBP trackpad or my bluetooth mouse. The cursor will just freeze and you can't move it. What makes this really bad is this persists through to the desktop and normal OSX usage after Eve has been closed or Alt Tabbed away from. I'm not sure if I sure if this is OS X or Eve related. Same issue here on leopard doesnt persist in osx though contained within game
Verron Keela	Posted - 2007.11.17 14:29:00 - [60] Edited by: Verron Keela on 17/11/2007 14:30:25 After the latest server restart, EVE Online freezes right after the in-game GUI loads, and sometimes before that. It worked like a charm prior to the latest server restart. I'm using a Mac Pro, 1G of RAM and ATI Radeon X1900XT.
Able White	Posted - 2007.11.18 03:13:00 - [61] Edited by: Able White on 18/11/2007 03:15:57 Originally by: Baron Erique Twice now the game time (clock in the lower-left) has sped up to an extreme rate. The crazy clock happens to me regularly while in-station. Although for me the game never returns to normal. My only option is to command-option-esc to crash the game.
Eva Ignosius	Posted - 2007.11.18 13:05:00 - [62] I've had the same issue that appears to be effecting quite a number of others... disconnection due to abnormal program termination. The actual error message is as follows: Cider C Runtime Library Runtime Error C:\Program files\CCP\EVE\bin\Exefile.exe Abnormal Program Termination I have the same question about the .exe being that I'm on a mac. Also, I'm curious as to why this isn't in the known issues post when so many peeps are having the problem :P.
Mahandra Hunter	Posted - 2007.11.18 14:18:00 - [63] MBP 2.4, OS10.4.10 2gb RAM. Another total lock up requiring a forced shut down (cmd-return wouldn't give me windowed). Happened when trying to start some training while docking (permission granted, but still outside the station). Got an odd message about me not being in the same place I was when I started, so failed). Screen froze. Audio still going.
Garand Delmas	Posted - 2007.11.19 12:25:00 - [64] I am still plagued by the crashes, where the audio continues but the gui freezes. They keep happening until I reboot (or perhaps relogin). I'd love to know what it is that's causing it - what process can I kill to restore it to it's good working state? It works for ages at a time flawlessly, then gets in this endless cycle and I have to go to the hassle of rebooting. Mac Pro, X1900, 4GB.
Rib Grak	Posted - 2007.11.19 16:45:00 - [65] Just got EVE a few days ago. Thanks to the developers for making the effort to include the Mac gamers! I have the same issue as many others. Game freezes at seemingly random points (it's happened to me in a space station, in the star map, in a combat encounter on one of the beginning missions, etc). The music and other game sounds (such as the sound of my armor taking damage) continues but the game is unresponsive. The mouse moves around, but no controls respond. I couldn't use Apple-Q to quit every time. Sometimes I need to hard shut down with the power button on my computer. Not sure if it is related, but when I've been able to Apple-Q out of the game I've noticed that .mac Sync was churnning. I've tried disabling Sync to see if it helps. I'll report back over next few days to see if it helps. Running Leopard on an iMac.
Fermi Drake	Posted - 2007.11.19 18:29:00 - [66] Originally by: Daan Sai That said, it doesn't remember your window/fullscreen setting and always starts up in fullscreen mode - even if you quit while in window mode. There's a config file entry that you can alter to change this in Usr/Library/Preferences/Eve Preferences Search for "fullscreen" and change 1 to 0 to always start in windowed mode (great if you are using an external monitor with your laptop).
Garand Delmas	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:59:00 - [67] Originally by: Rib Grak Not sure if it is related, but when I've been able to Apple-Q out of the game I've noticed that .mac Sync was churnning. I've tried disabling Sync to see if it helps. I'll report back over next few days to see if it helps. I'm not using .mac, so since we have the same problem it's probably not a good candidate. It's not memory, this happens even with 2GB free and 500MB inactive on my machine. No doubt it's a complex issue of something cider is trying to do - a thread deadlock or something. Seeing as how it's so easy to reproduce, though, I really hope someone is coming in to work today with this on their todo list.
MMMerangue	Posted - 2007.11.21 20:00:00 - [68] I have a problem with the in game graphics, after about 5-10 minutes they flicker with desktop icon images that I've never seen before, and certainly arent from my own computer. Its almost like someone elses desktop is trying to jam its way into my computer... most of the icons are repeated shield (possibly Nortons?) and also little mini-explosion icon Gifs which gives me great hope for my lovely computer... ;) Running Eve on Mac iBook OSX... (dont really know any more than that im not a tech-head but its the latest one pre-lepoard and im too poor for extras). will post a bug report too since i just noticed that bit...
Dijet	Posted - 2007.11.22 00:06:00 - [69] I'm with the other macbook users...... I get really weird images flashing that look like icons on one picture file. This happens almost always when I warp to a deepspace encounter, and the only solution I've found is to zoom all the way out and just fight by the overview. Sadly, this takes out all the "coolness" of fights.
ianf1982 Minmatar	Posted - 2007.11.22 22:19:00 - [70] After running Eve most of my applications dont work, they start to load then after a few seconds they close again and I get the error "Firefox quit unexpectedly" (happens in Firefox and most common OS X apps). If I reboot everything works fine again but its rather inconvenient. Im running Tiger 10.4.11 on a 2.16GHz Core 2 Duo iMac with 1GB RAM and a Radeon X1600.
Ergzay Stargazer	Posted - 2007.11.23 21:09:00 - [71] Stuck keys. Very often (many times per playing session) when typing a modifier key (ctrl, alt, shift) will get stuck down. It isn't really stuck, but the game thinks that it was never let up. My bet is that transgaming is doing bad coding and isn't constantly checking if a key is let up and just assumes it isn't. Also some key gets occasionally stuck so that when i hit the enter key when typing I hear the "ERRR" noise. If I then type another key however many times i hit enter i get that many new-lines before the letter I hit appears. Currently the only way I know how of fixing this is hitting random keys and hoping something unsticks and I have had to quit a few times to fix it.
Wu Shenyi	Posted - 2007.11.24 16:26:00 - [72] Edited by: Wu Shenyi on 24/11/2007 16:29:32 Same setup and problem as ianf1982. Mmmm, make that a similar setup MBPro, 10.4.10, 2GHz, ATI x1600 128mb
Mahandra Hunter	Posted - 2007.11.24 16:28:00 - [73] Yet another total lock up - this time while docked and just opening a dialogue with an agent. Audio keep going but have to hard boot. This is totally unacceptable. Get. It. Sorted. @ianf1982 I have found that relaunching the Finder clears this issue, which implies Eve is leaving the Finder unstable.
Wu Shenyi	Posted - 2007.11.24 16:33:00 - [74] Just remembered, and I haven't seen it posted: On hard locks, I'm sometimes able to Force quit (⌘-Option-Escape). It doesn't work right away, you need to persist with the key-combo. Granted, after a force quit it's probably a good idea to restart anyway, so this may be somewhat moot.

CCP Lingorm	Posted - 2007.11.26 11:39:00 - [75] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=644276&page=1 Patch tomorrow that will hopefully solve most of these issues. CCP Lingorm CCP Quality Assurance QA Engineering Team Leader

Triath Lon Caldari Keepers of Balance Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.11.26 12:42:00 - [76] Originally by: CCP Lingorm http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=644276&page=1 Patch tomorrow that will hopefully solve most of these issues. Woot! It's very nice to see commited Mac support, i just have one question - anythign on Unicode support yet? ________ Sig will, eventually, appear here.
skeandu Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.11.28 05:48:00 - [77] Originally by: CCP Lingorm http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=644276&page=1 Patch tomorrow that will hopefully solve most of these issues. No mac client patch to be seen, only one to download is a DOS file. Is it hiding somewhere?
skeandu Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.11.28 05:51:00 - [78] Originally by: skeandu Originally by: CCP Lingorm http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=644276&page=1 Patch tomorrow that will hopefully solve most of these issues. No mac client patch to be seen, only one to download is a DOS file. Is it hiding somewhere? 86 my last - found it. Thanks CCP.
Cor Aidan	Posted - 2007.11.28 18:07:00 - [79] Is there a readily-available (player-viewable) list of posted bugs so we can see if we should post a new one? The 2007.11.27 update to the Mac build seems to have been a step backwards for my machine. While I understand the importance of things like the HFS+ case-sensitivity issue, there are many other issues which remain - (the fast-clock, etc. still persist, and my client crashes more frequently now with the patch than before). After those hard issues, there are the more annoying ones, such as the bugs in the texture mapping which, while they don't prevent gameplay, are a major detractor.
Boris Mcsquishy	Posted - 2007.11.29 07:44:00 - [80] Originally by: Darcin Swift Edited by: Darcin Swift on 11/11/2007 22:00:16 Not sure if I should post this or not since I have a MacBook, not a MBP, and it's obvious that integrated graphics were not the target of EVE. However, it seems playable for the most part. Unfortunately, whenever you get near an asteroid, either the mining colony from the starter tutorial or another asteroid belt in the same starter system, the screen starts to flip between the actual scene and a texture map file. At least that is what it seems. Sometimes I can angle the camera to solve it for a bit, but eventually I get too close and it happens again. I also get screen sheering, where a floating window gets pasted to the environment instead. The window still works fine, but it's really strange flying through space and seeing the UI as part of the scene in space. I decided to see if this situation is also prevalent within XP Pro that I have via Boot Camp. There, the game worked just fine, no sheering or texture flipping. Nothing out of the ordinary at all. So, the problem definitely appears to be Mac OS related, most likely the difference between using Open GL vs. Direct X. Still, it would be nice to be playable on the MacBook. The cost of the MBP is out of range for many that would like to play EVE. As it is, I might play through the free subscription, but unless they make it playable on the MacBook, I'll just go back to playing WoW. MacBook - 1.83ghz - 2gb RAM - GMA 950 Sorry for the extended quote, however I read your post and it described my situation word-for-word. I have a MacBook and am a regular WoW player. I love the depth of EVE and am sure there are thousands of potential Mac players just like me who are ready to become regular subscribers. Unfortunately the flipping screen with odd flashing image files near asteroids has nearly given me a seizure! ;) As soon as this is remedied you will instantly have me as a regular subscriber :)
Hagis McBree Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2007.11.29 21:32:00 - [81] I don't want to sound like an ass but no where here did I see any thing about the game working on a MacBook. Quote: What are the minimum system requirements for EVE online? Macintosh: Minimal system requirements Intel based computer with CPU speed equal or greater than 1.8GHz , the client does not run on a PowerPC (G3/G4/G5) based Macintoshes (PowerMac). . OS: OS X 10.4.9 or later. Video: ATI X1600 or NVidia 7300 GT or higher with 128 MB of Video RAM RAM: 1024 MB or more HD space: 6 GB Network: 56k or better Internet connection OK I guess I do want to sound like one but I think it is known that the game looks bad on a MacBook. Please people read the requirements before posting.
Boris Mcsquishy	Posted - 2007.11.29 22:02:00 - [82] Originally by: Hagis McBree I don't want to sound like an ass but no where here did I see any thing about the game working on a MacBook. OK I guess I do want to sound like one but I think it is known that the game looks bad on a MacBook. Please people read the requirements before posting. Sound like an ass all you want, but nowhere did I see anything that says it doesn't work on a MacBook, nor did I see anything that says it works on a Pro or above. I did see the 1.8ghz processor requirements, which as I'm sure you know comes on all MacBooks. Since most of the game works fine and the graphics glitches are random it seemed as if it would be a fixable issue. Then again, I'm just trying to help as opposed to trying to be an ass. peace
beata reyam	Posted - 2007.11.29 23:30:00 - [83] Edited by: beata reyam on 29/11/2007 23:32:37 Originally by: Hagis McBree OK I guess I do want to sound like one but I think it is known that the game looks bad on a MacBook. I know exactly what Boris is talking about, that same thing happens to me. It's not about game looking bad, It is that whole screen captures some weird objects and icons on the background graphics. Those icons should not be there but they randomly appear and after that picture will get worse blinking and shattering in to the pieces. Im not sure if MacBook is good enought for Eve then, but certainly the the minimum specs doesn't yet tell that it would not be. let's not fight for this kind of thing.. It surely seems that Eve creation team has a lot to do before it works properly for macs (like scrolling, keys and crushing issues) but i guess we all would like it to work and join the big Eve family ;) We all know this mac version of Eve is very new so let's just testdrive it for better future. Let's hope these issues can be fixed soon and we'll be able to fight each other with ships then. ;p
DeMontaigne	Posted - 2007.11.30 15:00:00 - [84] Originally by: Mahandra Hunter Macbook Pro 2.4ghz, 2g ram Nvidia 8600M GT. On the journal Mission Details screen what I think it supposed to be a minimap is completely garbled - also on the Map Browser in map view (F10). Also had one screen-to-black incident (the screen went...er..black. All the popups worked perfectly, I just couldn't see anything in the station or outside. Had to re-log to clear it. I was also running Skype at the time). Also, occasional chop in combat. I have the same setup as you and I also get the garbled graphics in the map browser as well as the mission details screen. I haven't had any crashes, but it seems like there are a lot of images that were supposed to be 3D appearing as 2D. The corona around the mining laser appears as a flat disc, for example. the general quality of the graphics just appears a little poor, and jagged. Maybe this is the actual game? I don't know. either way, we'll see how well things work with Trinity.
Hagis McBree Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2007.11.30 18:34:00 - [85] Originally by: Boris Mcsquishy Sound like an ass all you want, but nowhere did I see anything that says it doesn't work on a MacBook, nor did I see anything that says it works on a Pro or above. I did see the 1.8ghz processor requirements, which as I'm sure you know comes on all MacBooks. Since most of the game works fine and the graphics glitches are random it seemed as if it would be a fixable issue. Then again, I'm just trying to help as opposed to trying to be an ass. peace did you read this part? Video: ATI X1600 or NVidia 7300 GT or higher with 128 MB of Video RAM you have an integrated graphics card and the specs for that are way below what is required to run the game.
Callagher Dawn	Posted - 2007.12.01 12:10:00 - [86] Quote: I have the same setup as you and I also get the garbled graphics in the map browser as well as the mission details screen. I haven't had any crashes, but it seems like there are a lot of images that were supposed to be 3D appearing as 2D. The corona around the mining laser appears as a flat disc, for example. the general quality of the graphics just appears a little poor, and jagged. Maybe this is the actual game? I don't know. either way, we'll see how well things work with Trinity. I can report exactly the same symptoms. And I do have nVidia 8600M GT in my MacBook Pro. No irregular crashes to report however, aside from garbled graphics, it runs fine.
VAhishias	Posted - 2007.12.02 02:49:00 - [87] Quote: did you read this part? Video: ATI X1600 or NVidia 7300 GT or higher with 128 MB of Video RAM you have an integrated graphics card and the specs for that are way below what is required to run the game. Sorry to be a pain ... but i run EVE on a MacBook 2.16GHz Core 2 Duo with 2.5Gb of RAM w/ Leopard, and just needed to reduce the Depth/stencil format to 24-bit z-buffer instead of the 32-bit z-buffer with 8-bit stencil in the graphics options... Got low FPS if i'm in a high polygon area (arround 10 FPS with 1152x720 resolution w/ windowed mode) ... but it's more than suficient to play. So the: "WAY BELOW WHAT IS REQUIRED TO RUN THE GAME" ... when i read this it seems to me that for you it comes out of a miracle if the game runs on a macbook ... So, I'm sorry, but yeah, you're sounding like an ass.. Despite all this, i'm just suffering the same bugs that have been reported here ... random crashes, some glitches (it's rare but sometimes it happens), and so on. Just want to add this one: I'm from Portugal and I bought my MacBook here... so i have a Portuguese keyboard, the little annoyance is that when i play the keyboad switches automatically to an English-US one so some characters differ in position (e.g. ":;()*+!") and i don't see anywhere a config option to prevent this (not like this will keep me from playing ). Best Regards.
Sicil Fioet Minmatar	Posted - 2007.12.03 02:53:00 - [88] Just downloaded the mac client to try it out. Played for two days and in this time had one random crash, a few short lived freezes, and one huge desync - I was flying to Jita (twas past peak hours), arrived and docked at a station, and was sitting there for at least 15 minutes. Suddenly the system and overview start loading and I ended one system away, in Perimeter warping in my ship towards Urlen gate. Not sure if this is bug was due to mac client and it would really suck for it to repeat (i don't wanna be passing through some 0.0 pipe then randomly end up in the same pipe 20 minutes later :P). Otherwise horray for much better graphics than when trying to run EVE in Parallels \o/
Mara Rinn Minmatar	Posted - 2007.12.03 04:19:00 - [89] Edited by: Mara Rinn on 03/12/2007 04:23:05 Just chiming in on the MacBook (integrated graphics) problem - every now and then some garbage graphics will start being loaded. Floating windows (eg: the top-right window listing system objects) will be used as textures for nebulas, some big array of icons on a white background will be pasted in place of most of the UI, all eventually leading to a hard crash of the Mac (as in: have to power down and boot to recover). A workaround for me is to change any setting in the Graphics panel - at which point graphics will usually return to "normal" - finish whatever I'm doing (finish mining, warp to station and dock), quit the game and start again. If I don't quit, the problem appears to go away for a little while but when it returns it will hard crash the system quickly. To pre-empt the habitual asses and pedants: Yes, the MacBook doesn't meet minimum specs as suggested, but it wouldn't surprise me to find that these problems exist in the game / cider / Mac OS X OpenGL and will eventually affect the 'supported' platforms too. For example, a heap overflow, null pointer or off-by-one error somewhere that (at present) is only exposed by low video memory systems, but will affect everyone once Trinity comes out. And to the worse asses: I use these machines for playing WoW. They work just fine in the other graphics intensive games I play. I've not yet had to quit a raid due to the hardware or OS letting me down. This is on a 2GHz MacBook (Core 2 Duo) with 2GB 666MHz SDRAM. My main system is a 2GHz Core 2 Duo iMac 17" with 2GB RAM (EVE works beautifully on that system). As a separate issue, on my iMac I've found that running WoW after EVE results in WoW graphics being "broken" - it looks like EVE is setting something in the video dealing with blurring, so the "full screen blur effect" in WoW gives objects halos similar to what I'd expect from rendered at half the colour depth. So far I've had to reboot my iMac in order to fix the EVE-induced corruption of WoW graphics. I'll check tonight to see if it's possibly due to EVE setting the colour depth for the system, and not resetting it when quitting.
Intumo Harat	Posted - 2007.12.04 14:50:00 - [90] Edited by: Intumo Harat on 04/12/2007 14:51:54 Edited by: Intumo Harat on 04/12/2007 14:50:58 Originally by: Mara Rinn Edited by: Mara Rinn on 03/12/2007 04:23:05 Just chiming in on the MacBook (integrated graphics) problem - every now and then some garbage graphics will start being loaded. Floating windows (eg: the top-right window listing system objects) will be used as textures for nebulas, some big array of icons on a white background will be pasted in place of most of the UI, all eventually leading to a hard crash of the Mac (as in: have to power down and boot to recover). A workaround for me is to change any setting in the Graphics panel - at which point graphics will usually return to "normal" - finish whatever I'm doing (finish mining, warp to station and dock), quit the game and start again. If I don't quit, the problem appears to go away for a little while but when it returns it will hard crash the system quickly. I'll second that. Whenever the textures go all weird, I change the Z-buffer depth and it fixes it for a while. If I keep doing this whenever there are graphics issues, I can keep it running for hours without crashing rather than the few minutes I typically get otherwise. The other thing I've noticed is that the visual problems appear much quicker if I take the resolution up to 1280x800. Much better behaved on 1024x768. (I'm running a 2GHz core 2 duo macbook with 1GB RAM)
Hermiad Caldari Andromeda Survey and Mining Division	Posted - 2007.12.09 00:10:00 - [91] Major bugs: 1. Client constantly closes randomly. 2. Often, like 90% of the time when you close eve the you click the quit button the window freezes and you have to use opt+cmd+esc to make eve close Problem one is more of a problem because often cannot spend more than 5 min in eve without it closing on me. Then other times it will run perfectly for hours. But then it starts closing.
Grintau Felintish	Posted - 2007.12.09 05:22:00 - [92] Originally by: Hagis McBree did you read this part? Video: ATI X1600 or NVidia 7300 GT or higher with 128 MB of Video RAM you have an integrated graphics card and the specs for that are way below what is required to run the game. I'm unsure if that's an acceptable answer since EVE ran just perfectly on low-spec systems under wine/crossover before Trinity ... (now it doesn't even start up ...) It seems to me there's a very serious memory leak in the emulated client, but I wouldn't be able to guess if it's from the client or the emulator.
Swifties	Posted - 2007.12.09 09:04:00 - [93] Originally by: Blue Wraith Cannot run two clients without making a second copy of the Eve app and running that. When trying to run two clients in full-screen mode, first client will not accept mouse input. Sometimes it will not accept it on any part of the screen, but sometimes it's only certain parts of the screen. Client will crash sometimes when running the second client. Crash report can be found here. Exact the same thing here. Using a brand new Mac Pro with Leopard.
Vardenfeld Amarr	Posted - 2007.12.09 22:53:00 - [94] I hope the DEV guys read thru here. I must admit that since the trinity upgrade I have been unable to play eve on my MAC. Running it on bootcamp is not an option for me because windows is just too damn expensive ... ;-) i hope the eve guys can fix this issue. Im getting tired of having to play on my old PC instead of my nice MAC PRO
Dai Kentavros Wombat inc.	Posted - 2007.12.10 04:01:00 - [95] Originally by: Hermiad ... 1. Client constantly closes randomly... ...often cannot spend more than 5 min in eve without it closing on me. Then other times it will run perfectly for hours. But then it starts closing. I have the same problem; didn't have any trouble with this prior to Trinity. Running on an iMac, OS X 10.4.11, 2.8 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, ATI Radeon 2600.
Lexi Luscious	Posted - 2007.12.10 18:21:00 - [96] Originally by: Dai Kentavros Originally by: Hermiad ... 1. Client constantly closes randomly... ...often cannot spend more than 5 min in eve without it closing on me. Then other times it will run perfectly for hours. But then it starts closing. I have the same problem; didn't have any trouble with this prior to Trinity. Running on an iMac, OS X 10.4.11, 2.8 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, ATI Radeon 2600. Ditto. (Mac Pro 4x2.66, Leopard (10.5), NVidia GeForce 7300 GT 256mb). Trinity seems to crash most near stargates for me, luckily combat situations seem mostly stable. It seems like there is something that is sometimes in the areas near gates that causes the crash, maybe a player ship type that crashes trying to render?
DrEric Manoli	Posted - 2007.12.12 11:07:00 - [97] Originally by: Dai Kentavros Originally by: Hermiad ... 1. Client constantly closes randomly... ...often cannot spend more than 5 min in eve without it closing on me. Then other times it will run perfectly for hours. But then it starts closing. I have the same problem; didn't have any trouble with this prior to Trinity. Running on an iMac, OS X 10.4.11, 2.8 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, ATI Radeon 2600. Yes, according to my two pre posters, EVE crashes suddenly, sometimes after 2 minutes, sometimes after 60minutes. First thought was, it might crash, in case of lack of memory, have 1GB so far, and within in big fleets, but after jumping back to empire an traveling through it, at some stargates or even in empty systems, eve crashes. "Please Fix this" My System: 20" iMac 2007, 2.4GHz, 1GBRam, ATI 2600HD, Leopard 10.5.1
Ky Deark	Posted - 2007.12.13 09:52:00 - [98] Macbookpro user All was sweet until I loaded the patch on the 7th. It now takes almost 6 minutes just to get the log in screen up where before the patch it was near instant. Then when the log in screen is up I can use the mouse but I cannot type in the username and password fields. So therefore cannot proceed. I attached another usb keyboard - and still nothing. The evidence that my keyboards work fine is the petition I sent. I got a mass email reply which was primarily (except notes about a firewall) PC based with no regard to mac and it did not address these problems anyway. Macbookpro (latest 17" 4GB ram) LEOPARD. I checked out the idea of buying VISTA and it is more than 2x what I paid for Leopard. Vista an OS my PC mates complain about. I paid for 2months subscription and have got little air time. This is such a waste of time on a mac and I'll be damned if I am going to spend major dosh on a pre-infected OS just to play this game! I will be ending this subscription and keeping an eye on a new Mac client that has it's mac forum singing it's praises. Until then I am going to spend my time on a other activities that make money rather than literally paying for a time and money sucking vortex.
C Identity	Posted - 2007.12.14 11:38:00 - [99] Same 'random' crash problem for me. However, I can pin that 'random' a bit. These crashes are 'always' happening after jumps for me. So on space system load. Wether it is the system load, or the rendering of the ship/items around the system is unclear, but it _does_ happen after jumps always. I am suspecting a generic EVE client render problem here for some graphic cards/drivers, since in bootcamp (so plain windows client) I have freeze ups too randomly, and also always happening after jumping into a system. My hardware is the AL iMac 24" with 2.4 ghz core2duo, 2 gig RAM and the Ati Radeon HD2600 card with 256mb. - C
Sorenna Suvari	Posted - 2007.12.15 18:26:00 - [100] Originally by: Hagis McBree did you read this part? Video: ATI X1600 or NVidia 7300 GT or higher with 128 MB of Video RAM you have an integrated graphics card and the specs for that are way below what is required to run the game. I have a Macbook Pro nvidia 8600m GT w/ 128 mb ram. Pro's don't have integrated graphics. 2.2ghz core duo, 2gb ram 10.5 ennyhoo here are my issues: - App hung while I was creating my character - Map Browser, Fitting window, and the lil Map in mission briefing window is garbled with random bitmap images - It can run for 6 hours straight, or crash 5 times per hour. Seems to happen while warping more often - Clock goes haywire and music still plays but screen is unresponsive - Heat is by far the most glaring issue: My machine heats up from 99f to maximum 160f upon launching just the login screen. I don't get how that could be a videocard issue. I mean I know apple wasn't exactly building these machines with games in mind (which is sad) but 155+ degrees fahrenheit? It's a login screen. I just tested this and it shoots up to 130 in 15 seconds... I'm overclocking the fans to 5800rpm w/ smcFanControl, and it's now fluctuating between 135-140f.
Trankwill	Posted - 2007.12.15 18:43:00 - [101] For what it's worth, I'll chime in about the random crashes (cf. Hermiad's response). Seems to happen mostly when I'm jumping, or docking/undocking, but sometimes during warp or other times. Maybe more in busy systems? Anyway, it substantially interferes with enjoyment of the game. This should be a top priority for fixing. I'm running client on a MacBook Pro with OS 10.5.1.
Ayr Chron Minmatar Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.	Posted - 2007.12.16 17:50:00 - [102] Edited by: Ayr Chron on 16/12/2007 17:51:04 Random crashes here too on a macbookpro. Please fix this. If i lose my sleipnir tonight in battle i'm gonna kill someone. :)
Lucius Vesp	Posted - 2007.12.21 10:36:00 - [103] Edited by: Lucius Vesp on 21/12/2007 10:37:29 Edited by: Lucius Vesp on 21/12/2007 10:36:38 Im having a lot of the same issues as mentioned here. Running a regular macbook but that doesn't seem to be an issue when Im running the client on XP through bootcamp. Although Im having the same issues I had before the new client/patch release for mac. Those issues were completely bugged out graphics and I absolutely can NOT hit the escape button or the entire client crashes and closes. Im running Leopard on a brand new macbook. Also, it seems to enjoy closing down whenever the hell it feels like it also. Here is a screen shot of what my graphics are doing when I run this through the mac client.
Meronym	Posted - 2007.12.22 15:22:00 - [104] Having a few problems on a MacBook Pro 2.4Ghz, 4GB RAM, OSX 10.5.1: - Frequent crashes, pretty random - After crashes Eve has usually lost ALL my prefs (overview, window layouts, chat channels, etc reset to default) - Had various parts of the UI freeze at different times .. things like not being able to move/resize windows (unpinned) but could minimize/close them. - Generally seems to be running much slower than it does on my Bootcamp partition (which i had really hoped to get rid of..)
Yo Mommy Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.28 03:46:00 - [105] I'm also having those graphic-bugs. Running the client on a Black Macbook, I know the graphic device isn't as good as it should be, but thing is that it runs pretty smooth on bootcamped XP and I really don't want to run XP when I have a nice Mac.
Punker Adagear Hades Domain	Posted - 2007.12.28 19:06:00 - [106] Originally by: Ky Deark Macbookpro user All was sweet until I loaded the patch on the 7th. It now takes almost 6 minutes just to get the log in screen up where before the patch it was near instant. Then when the log in screen is up I can use the mouse but I cannot type in the username and password fields. So therefore cannot proceed. I attached another usb keyboard - and still nothing. The evidence that my keyboards work fine is the petition I sent. I got a mass email reply which was primarily (except notes about a firewall) PC based with no regard to mac and it did not address these problems anyway. i usualy run the game on a windows machine but now ive got the latest Macbook pro i thought id give eve a shot on it. but like deark i cant even log onto the game on the mac, it takes forever to load after opening the client and i cant type my details. Any ideas? too high a resolution? or summit like that ================================================
Capn Hack Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.02 06:06:00 - [107] posted this in the feedback thread too; copypasting here incase its helpful. ive had both the systemuiserver systemwide ctd bug and the eve-only sound buffer wraparound bug and havent seen a lot of advice for them, so here goes. if you have the systemuiserver one where it crashes once and then crashes become incredibly frequent, not only in eve but also other apps, then logging out of your osx account and back in will fix it and is faster/gentler on the hardware than a reboot. its possible that killing a certain process will work without logging out, but currently i dunno which process that could be (its not systemuiserver since that crashes on its own). if you have the sound buffer bug you can stop it by just turning off audio from within the game; sadly thats the only way. id be interested in knowing whether the sound output device is whats causing this one, so can those who have it post what kinda output theyre using and have plugged in (usb, built in, minijack, optical)? ive tried everything i can think of to lessen the impact of these bugs but no alterations to the config file, deleting of prefs, or downloading the client anew will stop them popping up. turning off audio and logging out does make them easier to live with until they are fixed tho. the missing f drive error that pops up when launching the game can be fixed by just removing or commenting out (with ;;) the [Drive F] section in the config.ini file in your eve online preferences folder. that particular drive is redundant and isnt used by the game, so you can safely get rid of that bit to reduce the log clog-up. also, if you play in windowed mode with the new version you shouldnt set the desktop value to y, rather it should be set to whichever resolution you wanna play at, otherwise youll get more console messages. the line should read something like the following: "Desktop" = "1280x1024"
Punker Adagear Hades Domain	Posted - 2008.01.03 02:23:00 - [108] anyone figered out whats going on with the no keyboard input??? ================================================
Aaki	Posted - 2008.01.03 05:58:00 - [109] I made a post regarding one of the problems listed in the OP (the lack of Unicode support) in a separate thread, as I felt it was a rather specific post and the aforementioned thread dealt only with the Unicode issue. I hope in doing so, I haven't caused my post to be overlooked. Here is the thread (it's recently been bumped as I'm posting this just after having made that post).
BosNos	Posted - 2008.01.04 20:46:00 - [110] I am running a new iMac 2.8ghz 2g(ram) 256mb graphics I have had a lot of problems since I installed Trinity on this computer (1st time playing Eve on the mac) The ESC key fails to work. I have shortcuts for drone functions which fail to work. The RETURN key fails to enter words typed into the chat window into the channel itself. It instead places the cursor to the next line. I also have issues with left and right click (i'm not using the standard Mac Mouse...so I have a left and right buttons - logitech gaming mouse) left click brings up the right click menu over and over ...then returns to normal. The same applies to the camera, left vs. right click camera functions. I have tried 3 other mice including the mac mouse...same problem, so it is the game. I must command-Q to exit and restart the client. When I do so things return to normal, but sometimes within minutes things aren't working properly again. The client also crashes to the desktop at random - especially annoying when ratting with drones. I'm surrpised at the number of problems i'm having... I really don't want to download the entire client again and reinstall. Is this something I need to do? I hope not...
Karr Vanguard Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.07 15:32:00 - [111] Just a quick note on getting the client to work with a Macbook (and its integrated graphics card). Going into the Quote: ~/Library/Preferences/EVE\ Online\ Preferences/config file and setting Quote: [d3dgl] "FBO" = "N" as well as making sure the 'color depth' is set to '24-bit color with 8-bit alpha' and the 'depth/stencil format' is set to '24-bit z-buffer' in the application settings makes the client work without those notorious glitches. I'm noticing some issues with portraits not being entirely correct, but apart from that, it seems to function just fine. Entirely playable. As always YMMV however...
Bacchanalian Stimulus	Posted - 2008.01.11 04:32:00 - [112] Originally by: Renim Ym Still having unexplained complete freezes. If one doesn't run in windowed mode, the only way to get out of it is to power down/power up again. (Windows doesn't need emulating -this- well...). Relevant info: MBP, ATI X1600 card, 2Gb RAM, all files stored in a clear folder (not filevaulted). Freezes happen at random, but usually involve some shooty-shooty, whether it be NPC's or PVP. (This has cost me 3 ships already...). The precursor to it is that everything starts lagging like crazy, graphics wise. Then you get a slide-show of 1 frame per 10 seconds, and then everything just stops responding altogether. Will be going back to bootcamp for the time being, at least that worked :/ Having the same issue. Random unexplained freezes that require me to power down the computer to recover from them. ____________________ GM Sunshine > oops Neurotica > Hate to see a GM in your gang say 'oops'
Capn Hack Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.11 07:07:00 - [113] Originally by: Bacchanalian [Having the same issue. Random unexplained freezes that require me to power down the computer to recover from them. the whole comp shouldnt be freezing, and it probably isnt. i too was experiencing freezes in the game but force quitting always worked for me, and theres no reason it could happen only in fullscreen. what you can try to do is hit cmd-opt-esc a bunch of times in quick succession or hold the keys down for several seconds to try and get the force quit window up. even if that doesnt work, you can verify that its just the game thats freezing by having itunes or something playing in the background. itll continue to play normally if its just the game but, if the whole comp is frozen, after a few moments itll start to repeat the same second or so of music. also, if you have third party keyboard drivers like logitechs ones or controllermate (or any other app that can run an applescript on a hotkey) then you can create an applescript to kill the game even from fullscreen. i cant give you the precise code but you can get a script to run a shell command such as killall cider which will close the game for you.
Calvin Shepard	Posted - 2008.01.16 06:53:00 - [114] I've pinned down one of the crashes on the lowest tier MBP. Whenever a Growl message pops up, client goes crazy and all input slows to a crawl. Graphics, action on screen, the game clock goes wild, and I have to Command+Q to get out.
Argy	Posted - 2008.01.18 11:42:00 - [115] i hope someones reading this anyways how do i run bootcamp windows on my mac? and can i download windows or do i have to go out and buy it?
Lucius Vesp	Posted - 2008.01.19 08:09:00 - [116] Are any of these issues being addressed by the troubleshooting staff? Or the DEVs or anyone for that matter? Its been months since the new release and since I've made inquiries about the issues surrounding running a client on my mac and I have NOT heard a single thing that might solve my problem with running the Mac Client. Nor have I heard of anything being done to solve the problems in general. People say this client works fine, but obviously it DOES NOT and I am not hearing a thing about it being fixed...
Hermiad Caldari Andromeda Survey and Mining Division Eve Trade Union	Posted - 2008.01.21 04:56:00 - [117] So anyone still have major probems? I have not had a crash in a LONG time. But there still seems to be a memory leak that crashes the system very slowly if the user stays in a single location (like a station) for a extended period of time.
Argy	Posted - 2008.01.22 00:13:00 - [118] i still can't play for more than 10 minutes just sitting in station, while if i am traveling through systems it seems to last as long as i keep moving and dont angle the camera at the sun or the gate or other players or the station....if i do it flips out with random bitmap things. i cant even warp into a belt or deadspace without freezing in a couple minutes, so i cant fight. ive disabled all extra graphics effects (in the options) and have it at lowest resolution, and it still isnt working...i cant play the game at all. so are they doing anything about this?
Angel Vrae Gallente Arrvra Holdings Inc	Posted - 2008.01.26 01:07:00 - [119] several problems over here one: esc key instead of bringing up the options screen, quits the client 2) cant see my ship when im docked/most of the inside station graphics are wierd 3) i can see "through" my ship when looking at it from certian angles when in space 4) when viewed at certain angles, stations dissapear On a macbook Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
DarkEmperror	Posted - 2008.01.26 08:54:00 - [120] Originally by: Angel Vrae several problems over here one: esc key instead of bringing up the options screen, quits the client 2) cant see my ship when im docked/most of the inside station graphics are wierd 3) i can see "through" my ship when looking at it from certian angles when in space 4) when viewed at certain angles, stations dissapear On a macbook you should do the trick posted 8 posts above here, from Karr Vanguard. That solved the graphics problem on my macbook Still I got loads of other problems, that have been reported here as well. - Client crashes when aproaching stargate - Client crashes after pressing ESC button - I do not dare to get the info of another player in space - and the fan in my Mac is going 100% when starting the Eve client, and keeps on blowing like a big microwarpdrive
Alqualonde Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:12:00 - [121] Edited by: Alqualonde on 02/02/2008 23:12:29 MacBook Pro, Radeon x1600, Mac OS 10.5.1, 2 GB RAM. I experience the following issues: - random crashes, upon exiting after a prolongued session the entire OS seems to need to reload itself out of virtual memory and then all my other apps start crashing - Massive framerate degradation after upgrading to Leopard. This primarily has stopped me from using the Mac client. If I can't get 30fps in OS X with classic graphics, but 60 in Windows with premium graphics is no problem, well that's just ridiculous. - stuttery audio (much worse than it was in Tiger), EVE voice doesn't work at all - wallet background graphic appears on top of everything in the wallet window
Radamant Nemes	Posted - 2008.02.05 13:32:00 - [122] If you have the 'starts crashing more and more' issue, the log out and log back in to your mac 'sollution' works. This also gives a hint to where the problem actualy lies. If eve crashes (or is exited) all its resources should be freed. The same goes for the transgaming translation layer. However, if there is a leak in either quartz or any of the layers/libraries between the GPU and the interface that the transgaming engine offers to eve, and this leak prevents the resources from being freed, then THAT is where this persistence comes from. It also explains why logging out (or rebooting) will help: the whole graphics layer is then reset. There is another observation to make here: it seems that this problem occurs more often if you just stay put in a station. What things are so special about sitting in a station that it could trigger this problem (much) sooner? In a station there are 2 obvious things that are different then outside situations. 1: the constant spinning of the ship (that makes me dizzy by the way. is there no way to turn this off?) 2: the searchlights. to be honnest is suspect either of these two to be the source of the trouble. I can not say if the resources are allocated each time a searchlight is moved and then not correctly released in the transgaming engine or that the problem lies deeper, say in the opengl layer in macos, but that is where i (as a developer) would search for it. All the other bugs i have found sofar are quite minor, like the wallet image overlaying the first option in the wallet options. Not nearly as important as making my whole computer unstable, so i can strongly suggest concentrating on the leak :) Good luck!
Gor Mel	Posted - 2008.02.13 19:49:00 - [123] - Crashes 50% of the time you request "Show Info" on other players. Pretty much makes the game unplayable for solo PvP purposes.
toriqo	Posted - 2008.02.17 00:37:00 - [124] Edited by: toriqo on 17/02/2008 00:37:44 i can't see my ship while docked, only the lights. when i undock, the depth of field is messed up; the ship is overlaped and i see it BEHIND the station though it is IN FRONT of the station. any solution for that? i am using a MacBook with Leopard, no emulators, just the OS X client. in windows xp sp2 it works just fine. thanks.
Jarl Sorensen BluStone Industries	Posted - 2008.02.25 00:25:00 - [125] Machine: MacBook Pro, 15" widescreen monitor Software: OS X 10.4.11, EVE Apple client Hardware: Core 2 Duo @ 2.33 Ghz w/ 2 GB RAM Video: ATI Radeon x1600 w/ 256 MB RAM Game has very low FPS compared to the Windows client running under WinXP SP2 (via Boot Camp). While docked in a station, I typically get 70 FPS in my WinXP client and about 15-20 FPS in the OS X client, with identical graphics settings. There seems to be a lot of CPU processing overhead as well. EVE uses 25-70% CPU in WinXP and about 100% CPU in OS X. Is there any way that the Cider processes and routines could be optimized to reduce CPU overhead and allow some increases in FPS for the OS X EVE client? Thank you for all your hard work and for allowing a workable version of the EVE client to run in OS X!
Ninja Squirrel	Posted - 2008.03.09 05:33:00 - [126] I would love to play EVE... heck, I'm ready to subscribe... but I can't even get a character to be created and get into the game without it crashing EVERY SINGLE TIME. Leopard (10.5.2), Core2 Duo 2.2 Ghz, 4 GB Ram wtf.
de Tormes	Posted - 2008.03.11 12:43:00 - [127] I'm confident that the crashes will be dealt with in time. Even though Cider ports sound like a silver bullet, it's more of a potential silver bullet. I mean, there isn't much experience with Cider or Wine yet on the Mac. Now, I am assuming there are people genuinely working on this, and I'm sure Apple is lending a hand in some way to ease the effort. That being said, the overhead of Cider ports is scary. Min requirements on Wintel is 800 MHz and on Mactel 1.8 GHz. Only difference being the OS. The Cider overhead must be optimized a whole lot and it is also unacceptable that the game hoses the OS and apps when it crashes so one is forced to restart or logout. Whatever the Cider port is doing, it's doing something very grey. Since I started using OS X in 2002, I've never seen any application have this kind of effect on the OS. On the other hand, being a long-time OS 9 user, this is mighty familiar! When an app crashed, everything became unstable and you just needed to restart the machine and that was that. So, what need to be done: 1. Make the port as stable as the Wintel version. 2. Ensure that if it crashes it doesn't take everything down along with it. 3. Optimize and enhance the port so it can run on 1+ GHz Macs and use the Premium graphics engine. That should about do it ;)
Capn Hack State War Academy	Posted - 2008.03.15 13:47:00 - [128] Originally by: Radamant Nemes Edited by: Radamant Nemes on 05/02/2008 14:02:41 If you have the 'starts crashing more and more' issue, the log out and log back in to your mac 'sollution' works. This also gives a hint to where the problem actualy lies. If eve crashes (or is exited) all its resources should be freed. The same goes for the transgaming translation layer. However, if there is a leak in either quartz or any of the layers/libraries between the GPU and the interface that the transgaming engine offers to eve, and this leak prevents the resources from being freed, then THAT is where this persistence comes from. It also explains why logging out (or rebooting) will help: the whole graphics layer is then reset. if you monitor the console.log (and system.log) and your ram usage you can see this isnt actually a leak causing the problem. theres a leak while the client is open, but after a crash/quit your ram is returned to you. whats causing the client to cascade throughout the system and take down other apps after the first crash is that its messing up the launchd process and appears to be causing launchd to kill all other apps launched due to their pid being assigned to the wrong app or duplicated. im not too well versed in the inner workings of launchd within the system but i believe the fact that the eve client seems to launch another instance of itself (as evidenced by the second dock icon popping up if you already have it in the dock), despite there being only one app within the bundle, could have something to do with it. this suggests that eve runs in or leaves behind a phantom pid and all subsequent launches of any app leaves their pid one number ahead of where it should be, thus confusing launchd and making it kill off everything as a stray process. i havent had time to fully test this with 1.1 yet but im still experiencing app crashes after quitting eve, despite the client itself no longer crashing so i dont think this problem has been fixed yet. anyone else still getting these crashes?
Balthisar Fox Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.03.21 00:51:00 - [129] Since the patch, anytime I dock, and sometimes after a gate jump, my overview window and my selected item window both revert to some stupid position -- not even the default position. Really quite annoying!
jericho lucius School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.21 17:31:00 - [130] Edited by: jericho lucius on 21/03/2008 17:31:17 Originally by: Balthisar Fox Since the patch, anytime I dock, and sometimes after a gate jump, my overview window and my selected item window both revert to some stupid position -- not even the default position. Really quite annoying! same here, fix plz
Johnny Boom	Posted - 2008.04.01 16:38:00 - [131] Same as two earlier posters. Macbook Pro, 2.13 ghz Core 2 Duo, 1 gb ram, ATI x16800. After clicking open the application, two EVE Online icons appear in the dock. After a minute, one disappears, wait another couple of minutes the actual game loads. Scroll down the EULA. I'm able to move the mouse cursor around (and it looks like a text select cursor), but I am unable to click on anything, including the login text boxes. Quite simply, nothing happens when I click. I've waited as long as five minutes or so.
monomatic	Posted - 2008.04.06 20:23:00 - [132] Originally by: Johnny Boom Edited by: Johnny Boom on 01/04/2008 17:48:00 Same as two earlier posters. Macbook Pro, 2.13 ghz Core 2 Duo, 1 gb ram, ATI x16800. Running leopard. After clicking open the application, two EVE Online icons appear in the dock. After a minute, one disappears, wait another couple of minutes the actual game loads. Scroll down the EULA. I'm able to move the mouse cursor around (and it looks like a text select cursor), but I am unable to click on anything, including the login text boxes. Quite simply, nothing happens when I click. I've waited as long as five minutes or so. Edit: Allowed it to run for awhile. The sticking point seems to be with the little browser and news ticker and all that good stuff. Once that is loaded, everything speeds up, UNTIL! You hit the character select screen and the news ticker dealy has to load again. Once in game, everything appears to be fine UNTIL, I approach a stargate. Then the game simply locks up. Tried logging back in, waited the requisite time for the news tickers to load, and it locked up again as soon as I tried to look at the stargate. Same problem...game takes like 5 mins to reach login screen..after that another 2 min for char selection... imac 20inch core 2 duo 2g ram
Blood Fever	Posted - 2008.04.22 20:16:00 - [133] Originally by: Johnny Boom Edited by: Johnny Boom on 01/04/2008 17:48:00 Same as two earlier posters. Macbook Pro, 2.13 ghz Core 2 Duo, 1 gb ram, ATI x16800. Running leopard. After clicking open the application, two EVE Online icons appear in the dock. After a minute, one disappears, wait another couple of minutes the actual game loads. Scroll down the EULA. I'm able to move the mouse cursor around (and it looks like a text select cursor), but I am unable to click on anything, including the login text boxes. Quite simply, nothing happens when I click. I've waited as long as five minutes or so. Edit: Allowed it to run for awhile. The sticking point seems to be with the little browser and news ticker and all that good stuff. Once that is loaded, everything speeds up, UNTIL! You hit the character select screen and the news ticker dealy has to load again. Once in game, everything appears to be fine UNTIL, I approach a stargate. Then the game simply locks up. Tried logging back in, waited the requisite time for the news tickers to load, and it locked up again as soon as I tried to look at the stargate. I am having the same problem with the exact same hardware configuration except that I have 2GB of RAM.
Richard McDuff	Posted - 2008.04.24 10:05:00 - [134] Originally by: Johnny Boom Edited by: Johnny Boom on 01/04/2008 17:48:00 Same as two earlier posters. Macbook Pro, 2.13 ghz Core 2 Duo, 1 gb ram, ATI x16800. Running leopard. After clicking open the application, two EVE Online icons appear in the dock. After a minute, one disappears, wait another couple of minutes the actual game loads. Scroll down the EULA. I'm able to move the mouse cursor around (and it looks like a text select cursor), but I am unable to click on anything, including the login text boxes. Quite simply, nothing happens when I click. I've waited as long as five minutes or so. Edit: Allowed it to run for awhile. The sticking point seems to be with the little browser and news ticker and all that good stuff. Once that is loaded, everything speeds up, UNTIL! You hit the character select screen and the news ticker dealy has to load again. Once in game, everything appears to be fine UNTIL, I approach a stargate. Then the game simply locks up. Tried logging back in, waited the requisite time for the news tickers to load, and it locked up again as soon as I tried to look at the stargate. Same here. Mac Pro, 4 x 2.8GHz, 4GB RAM, GF 8800 GT, 10.5.2
Gandon Vivicus	Posted - 2008.04.29 07:06:00 - [135] Same for me. imac intel core duo 2,4 with 3 gig.
Asantte	Posted - 2008.05.04 03:05:00 - [136] Game started crashing upon starup. This started happening only recently - EVE used to run fine on my mac. I would log in to my accounts sometimes several times a day for short skill changes. Then at one point trying to enter the game EVE starts crashing. Sometimes when i am picking character to log in, other times when char is just entering the game it abruptly quits in about 10-20 seconds running. Problem is fixed for limited period of time by restarting my computer which at times i have to do several times a day to be able to switch skills on my accounts. MacBook Pro, 10.5.2
monomatic	Posted - 2008.05.10 20:14:00 - [137] Originally by: Richard McDuff Originally by: Johnny Boom Edited by: Johnny Boom on 01/04/2008 17:48:00 Same as two earlier posters. Macbook Pro, 2.13 ghz Core 2 Duo, 1 gb ram, ATI x16800. Running leopard. After clicking open the application, two EVE Online icons appear in the dock. After a minute, one disappears, wait another couple of minutes the actual game loads. Scroll down the EULA. I'm able to move the mouse cursor around (and it looks like a text select cursor), but I am unable to click on anything, including the login text boxes. Quite simply, nothing happens when I click. I've waited as long as five minutes or so. Edit: Allowed it to run for awhile. The sticking point seems to be with the little browser and news ticker and all that good stuff. Once that is loaded, everything speeds up, UNTIL! You hit the character select screen and the news ticker dealy has to load again. Once in game, everything appears to be fine UNTIL, I approach a stargate. Then the game simply locks up. Tried logging back in, waited the requisite time for the news tickers to load, and it locked up again as soon as I tried to look at the stargate. Same here. Mac Pro, 4 x 2.8GHz, 4GB RAM, GF 8800 GT, 10.5.2 its been a looong time...still i cant play the game due to this problem..hows everyone doing? ccp? heee..eee.eeell..llll..pphh!
monomatic	Posted - 2008.05.15 17:50:00 - [138] cmoon! any solutions for people still experiencing the black screen issue? :(
Dr Sheepbringer	Posted - 2008.05.27 15:42:00 - [139] Is it just me, or does anyone else feel like Mac-users aren't being noticed at all? I mean c'mon! We have a guy who can't even play eve and hasn't been able to play it since 10th...and it's 27th now...still no response.
Morphe Olorin	Posted - 2008.05.27 20:05:00 - [140] I agree, doesn't seem like much attention is being given to these non-Windows clients. I still experience total lockup of my macbook about once every hour or two when running EVE. I have to hard turn off and reboot my computer. I've seen this problem has existed since in 2007, and still hasn't been resolved. To me, that sounds like no attention. Minor bugs I could understand, but total lockup of the game and computer - that is not good for me on my computer or in EVE if something is going on. This should not happen like this all the time. This would all be better if CCP did not decide to "half-ass" the other-OS clients and use Cedega and Cider wrappers for Windows APIs. Come on CCP - you receive payment from these Mac users and Linux users monthly just the same as the Windows users - show them some quality support and make some native clients, not these half-ass wrapper clients. (Yes, technically the wrapper clients are still native in the since that its not emulation - but might as well be, the wrappers *****the CPU and slow everything down by far. And the buggyness is just terrible). Let's see some real work and natively coded clients. Its just the client-side client, not like any of the python on the servers has to be changed. Come on CCP, really?
Dr Sheepbringer	Posted - 2008.05.28 07:04:00 - [141] Well I can understand the lack of native clients, and with that I can understand the lesser performance of these wraps, but they should still be playable... Your community manager needs a good'old spanking!
Morphe Olorin	Posted - 2008.06.02 17:46:00 - [142] well, seeing as how the mac EVE client completely locks up my macbook about every 1 hour and 30 mins, and I have to do a hard reboot - I will be installing WIndows XP with bootcamp onto my macbook so I can actually play EVE (and save my computer from tons of hard reboots). Until CCP gets their act together with the the non-win OS clients, I cannot use them. Any serious player can not use them - random complete lockups during battle or something important, are you kidding me? If you want to lose ships and bash your face into the wall. I was very excited about CCP taking the initiative and making clients for mac and linux - but now I am completely disappointed because they clients are buggy as hell, hardly working at all for many, and it seems little attention is paid at all to fixing these clients and their bugs. This saddens me, since every EVE player who uses the mac or linux clients pays just the same as the windows users - yet those clients go on unfixed. I love what you guys are doing in game CCP - but please, spend a little more time with the client and get it functioning well. The ingame stuff doesn't matter if a player cant get in and play because of a buggy or non-working client. -Morphe
Enolii	Posted - 2008.06.12 08:11:00 - [143] Originally by: Morphe Olorin I love what you guys are doing in game CCP - but please, spend a little more time with the client and get it functioning well. The ingame stuff doesn't matter if a player cant get in and play because of a buggy or non-working client. -Morphe In fact they don't have the devellopment team to handle the work on other client... And they just let this work to other one (Not to say these are Transgaming corp). They trusted the cider technology should be enough empowered for not have to make a real port of the client. By the way the EvE guys don't imagined how this should be time costing in maintaining and upgrading this alt client even with the cider tech. they just don't put enough coders to this stuff. That's it. The EvE team is simply not strongh enough.
lonsan	Posted - 2008.06.18 14:06:00 - [144] I have a problem I haven't seen posted in this topic yet. I have an iMac, 2ghz core duo, 128mB ati card. When i install eve, by dragging the icon into the applications folder, no eve preferences folder in the library\preferences is ever created, and I can't start the game. When I try to open it from the applications folder, nothing happens. Any help?
Muckley	Posted - 2008.06.25 10:19:00 - [145] Edited by: Muckley on 25/06/2008 10:21:43 Edited by: Muckley on 25/06/2008 10:20:20 Also my minimap and the small map in journal is garbled with strange bitmap graphics. I have cleared my cache to no avail (just lost my settings). MacBook Pro 2.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Memory 2GB Mac OS X 10.5.3 Has any CCP representative acknowledged this problem? Here's a screen grab (which on the mac is done using Shift-Command-3): http://web.mac.com/algesten/badeve.png
Yamahita	Posted - 2008.06.26 21:32:00 - [146] Brand new iMac 3.06ghz 2gig ram patched to latest OS rev. etc. Eve patched up to the latest rev. Issues being experienced: Random Crashing - quickly becoming intolerable, no PVP since I'm a newbie but would make that impossible. Bitmaps are whacked out on occasion similar to what's been posted. Annoying but I could tolerate it if I weren't crashing randomly all the time. I still have my PC and my original experience with Eve was on XP. Rock solid on the PC. The Mac experience is honestly horrible in comparison. If I'd done my 14 day trial on a Mac I wouldn't have signed up. I've skimmed this thread and didn't see any additional posts by CCP. That's disconcerting at best. I apologize if I missed a response in there somewhere. In any event, it certainly does "feel" like Mac users are being neglected.
Pete X Minmatar Demonic Corp G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.07.18 12:44:00 - [147] i don't really do macs but im on eve on mine and i can't seem to render peoples portraits ( they go all spazzy ) and i get flickering graphics which is really annoying ( graphics are icons from modules etc ) any help ? Quote: "This one time, a ninja was eating in a diner. Someone dropped a spoon and so he killed the entire town.
Kano Sekor Amarr The Movement	Posted - 2008.07.30 20:58:00 - [148] Having problems with restarting client if i log out with one account to login with another account the programs just quit after a minute or so no reason given. My system: iMac 2 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB Ram ATI Radeon HD2400 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Torche Enflammee	Posted - 2008.08.08 20:18:00 - [149] Originally by: Kano Sekor Having problems with restarting client if i log out with one account to login with another account the programs just quit after a minute or so no reason given. My system: iMac 2 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB Ram ATI Radeon HD2400 This is my problem, too, although it's only been happening for a couple of weeks. Client just shuts and drops back to desktop. It had been working MUCH better than my windows PC. Is there any debug information we can pull up?
Konjoq Tuptain	Posted - 2008.08.19 22:46:00 - [150] Originally by: Torche Enflammee Originally by: Kano Sekor Having problems with restarting client if i log out with one account to login with another account the programs just quit after a minute or so no reason given. My system: iMac 2 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo 4 GB Ram ATI Radeon HD2400 This is my problem, too, although it's only been happening for a couple of weeks. Client just shuts and drops back to desktop. It had been working MUCH better than my windows PC. Is there any debug information we can pull up? Ditto. Been seeing the same problem. Restarting the computer is the only thing that seems to help... if that can be called "helping."
Dr Sheepbringer	Posted - 2008.09.03 07:39:00 - [151] I'm getting connection losses and garbled audio. Audio works without problems when you shut down eve, also no other programs are affected by the "connection loss".
Oberst McClain	Posted - 2008.09.09 05:46:00 - [152] I have an issue whit the running form multiple clients on Mac OS 10.4.11. Sometimes i start the first client, and then i start the second client and the support for Mouse does not work on the second client. Okay that happened ever 10 start,
Ami Nia	Posted - 2008.09.09 13:40:00 - [153] There's a known problem in the current leopard release in the way OsX handles mouse focus in some cases. It generally has to do with dashboard (show the dashboard then hide it and the current active window will not receive mouse input any more). The work around is to command tab to another application then command tab again. It may or may not be part of the problem you are having. I suggest you do this: -) make sure your second copy of the EvE client starts from a separate application and uses a separate preference directory (see the sticky on how to edit the preference direcotry within the application bundle of the second client). -) make sure both clients start in windowed mode (there's a sticky for this too). -) delete the caches for both clients -) it is best to have at most one client with enabled audio. -) it is best (but not necessary) to reduce the system load for both clients. I set all my client/login combinations so that display&graphics settings in the esc menu is set to preset interval 4, cache size low and all effects unchecked (especially the load station environment). -) if you still miss mouse input, try command tabbing to finder and then back. If that does not work, it may be a client problem that I never experienced so far. --- Originally by: CCP Mitnal So we can 1 v 1 with Garmon.
Mechero	Posted - 2008.09.29 17:28:00 - [154] I have 2 major issues thus far. Well, they're not major, but definitely annoying. 1. The mini maps, of star systems, and mission runs are completely garbled and you cannot read them. Minor, but annoying. Also the map that comes in on the right in the F10 map mode is garbled as well. 2. When flying through space and in a "cloud" of some sort the cloud renders as a block block, or series of blocks, whenever this happens the performance takes a hit. I'm on OS X Leopard, MBP and a GeForce 8600M GT
ariel jade Gallente Terran Colonial Guard	Posted - 2008.10.06 04:27:00 - [155] so far my only issue is that when I enter a Station the bitmaps use for textures on the inside of the station are not rendering correctly. it looks like I'm looking at the texture from behind so the only thing I see is the shape of the station and the lights.
Beann Loant Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2008.10.21 11:19:00 - [156] This thread is now officially almost 1 year old. Please unsticky it and make a new one once the Mac EA 1.1.2 patch is deployed later today. --
Morn Judith Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.03 08:19:00 - [157] doesnt look like anyone else is having this problem, just want to make note of it. -Bugged local window. Is not showing War targets, friendlies or negatives. As you can imagine, this is hard living in nullsec! -Not a big deal but F1-12 dont work for modules or map activation. Just trying help out, thanks CCP and Transgaming. -Macbook pro, 2gb ram, 8600mGT, 2.2ghz core 2. Quote: Bah, Eve>women. Heck, I left my wife for eve. Well, that and because she had a boyfriend.
Summer Fire	Posted - 2008.11.08 22:44:00 - [158] Spending more time researching "fixes" and solutions and implementing them, than I am playing Eve. However after reaching a point where neither client would stay active for more than a few minutes, neither would run in a large window 1920x1200 without crashing and essentially the game became unplayable I found this by chance, "com.transgaming.EVEOnline" in: /private/var/folders/jM/MEIS1FmGtW0a6AqcHoqw++++TI/-caches-/ I deleted it as it relates to wine and I had had enough... I can play Eve again, albeit in smaller windows. I am looking at another folder "-tmp-" which has files with names like this "588C7E1D-B18B-4EF3-89CB-FA1BE5118DC9-1822-00001B88D211B369". Machine code, with readable headers. Many seem related to wine. Will approach these more carefully but they do seem to be just temporary cached files. Issues 1. I suspect that the file names "jM and MEIS..." will be different for each machine. They look like generated filenames. 2. /private is a hidden folder. A utility is required to see it. 3. /private is a very dangerous folder to play around with, you can really wreck your system if you delete the wrong thing. Be careful.
Intagal Rie	Posted - 2008.11.26 17:21:00 - [159] OS 10.5.5 on an iMac, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Unhandled exception 0xc0000409 at address 0x552f7037. I get this error sometimes when I quit - this is post-patches; it happened again this morning. Also, sometime after 2 hours of playing, Eve will crash. I have never made it to 3.5 hours. This makes mining ops difficult. I have had this problem for the 2 months I have been playing.
Kratos Maximus	Posted - 2008.12.02 09:08:00 - [160] Yes these are some of the problems i have been having as well, same error report. Read new topic in mac issues titled sudden fittin issues and see if anyone may have solution please. Krum Originally by: Intagal Rie OS 10.5.5 on an iMac, 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Unhandled exception 0xc0000409 at address 0x552f7037. I get this error sometimes when I quit - this is post-patches; it happened again this morning. Also, sometime after 2 hours of playing, Eve will crash. I have never made it to 3.5 hours. This makes mining ops difficult. I have had this problem for the 2 months I have been playing.

CCP Casqade	Posted - 2008.12.16 15:59:00 - [161] Continue here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=892187


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