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Khalm
Firing Squad Pure.
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Posted - 2007.11.09 07:40:00 -
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What I have seen in past couple of weeks in the forums have made me little depressed. Seems, that there is nothing but bad things coming. Many things that use to be good aren't as good anymore. EOS, drones, carriers, ...
Well the obvious cool thing is the trinity graphics and the interface improvements. But what about the game it self. Where is the cool new stuff?
tech2 battleships? well. blaah. sensor strenght. jump carriers? well. blaah. i guess its must to train because of the carrier nerf.
Now Cheer me up! What cool stuff is coming besides what I allready mentioned! ---
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Science Lord
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Posted - 2007.11.09 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: Khalm What I have seen in past couple of weeks in the forums have made me little depressed. Seems, that there is nothing but bad things coming. Many things that use to be good aren't as good anymore. EOS, drones, carriers, ...
Well the obvious cool thing is the trinity graphics and the interface improvements. But what about the game it self. Where is the cool new stuff?
tech2 battleships? well. blaah. sensor strenght. jump carriers? well. blaah. i guess its must to train because of the carrier nerf.
Now Cheer me up! What cool stuff is coming besides what I allready mentioned!
Well theres.... And Umm the.... Uhhh.... ./Runs away
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.11.09 08:12:00 -
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Cool trailer showing off cool gfxs for people with dualcore 8800's!
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Arana Tellen
Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.11.09 08:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon Cool trailer showing off cool gfxs for people with dualcore 8800's!
Actually my 8800 is 320core TYVM. Anyway its DX9 so anyone with a 6 series or x1 series will be able to use it (or higher ofc). ---------------------------------
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar Vengeance 8 Interceptors
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Posted - 2007.11.09 08:49:00 -
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I'm hoping the good points are the sneaky ones that arn't on the patch notes.
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Buyerr
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Posted - 2007.11.09 08:52:00 -
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i think all the nerfs is the good thing ^^
the bad things is the dissapointing T2 bs's and all the blob warfare comming along.... sigh
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syphurous
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.11.09 08:55:00 -
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There's some kind of drone buff coming out of the drone regions, but they wont tell us what it is :S ___
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Bodwad
Gallente British Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.09 09:12:00 -
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Dont let the grumpy forum farts get you down
Any change will make people moan because it means they have to adapt. Most likely they are over hyping the problems the update will cause. Drones will be improved
The graphics will be brilliant too but remember that there were possible plans to release this seperate to the large feature update. This sums up to the fact that there will be loads of new features in the original planned release.
There are also improvements to Exploration I think, loads of new missions etc
As to the ship nerf, dont worry about it. Its very easy to adapt in eve and some of the changes are long overdue. If nothing changed this game would get very boring, very fast
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.11.09 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Bodwad Dont let the grumpy forum farts get you down
Any change will make people moan because it means they have to adapt. Most likely they are over hyping the problems the update will cause. Drones will be improved
The graphics will be brilliant too but remember that there were possible plans to release this seperate to the large feature update. This sums up to the fact that there will be loads of new features in the original planned release.
There are also improvements to Exploration I think, loads of new missions etc
As to the ship nerf, dont worry about it. Its very easy to adapt in eve and some of the changes are long overdue. If nothing changed this game would get very boring, very fast
Some of us just dislike that the EVE design and revision process seems to involve a dartboard with random nouns, darts labeled "buff", "nerf", and "remove", a blindfold, and a bottle of Jack Daniels.
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CCP Greyscale
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Posted - 2007.11.09 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: syphurous There's some kind of drone buff coming out of the drone regions, but they wont tell us what it is :S
I thought I had explained it all here - if there's anything you're still unclear about, let me know
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2007.11.09 09:20:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 09/11/2007 09:20:16 Well graphics don't concern me, i'm just concerned if i'll be able to get all the stuff(new ships/UI improvement/etc) and play as per usual without the graphics.
I'm not even sure i want the graphics, as the old engine might work faster
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Khalm
Firing Squad Pure.
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Posted - 2007.11.09 09:41:00 -
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Ok, new missions and exploration stuff. This sounds good.
Ah now the new t2 BS make little more sense with their utility slots. Exploration battleships! Have to sneak up the skill requirements and start training.
I have also watched the trailers of the new graphics. Looks amazing. Lukily bought a new computer last Christmas so I can hopefully play it with maximum settings. ---
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2007.11.09 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: Khalm Now Cheer me up! What cool stuff is coming besides what I allready mentioned!
What about graphic update? dont you think a update to the whole graphic system is neat and nice? All the ships have been made from scratch, and all in absolutely improved graphic? New gfx engine etc.
Or what about Ambulation which will come after Trinity?? It will take a year or so before it hit live though, maybe even more, but hey! The grapich engine is by damn a very good start im my eyes!
I also enjoy very much the thought of all the new ships etc...
Sarah McTeef: You all should really try and stay on topic. Which when I last checked, was my grocery list |
Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.11.09 09:56:00 -
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Drat, forgot to list a good thing: Movable and upgraded fleet / drone interfaces.
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Khalm
Firing Squad Pure.
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Posted - 2007.11.09 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Originally by: Khalm Now Cheer me up! What cool stuff is coming besides what I allready mentioned!
What about graphic update? dont you think a update to the whole graphic system is neat and nice? All the ships have been made from scratch, and all in absolutely improved graphic? New gfx engine etc.
Or what about Ambulation which will come after Trinity?? It will take a year or so before it hit live though, maybe even more, but hey! The grapich engine is by damn a very good start im my eyes!
I also enjoy very much the thought of all the new ships etc...
Well I though I mentioned the new graphics and yeah its cool. Ambulation sounds also very exciting, but what I hear its a long way from being ready.
And its also nice that they are brining the new ships. But don't mistakenly believe that all new is good. Its not. Especially if it's made with the expense of the old stuff.
Best example of this is the carrier cargo nerf to make the jump freighters usable. ---
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2007.11.09 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: Khalm Best example of this is the carrier cargo nerf to make the jump freighters usable.
Dont look on it as a nerf. Look on it as a adjustment. Ships are always up for adjustments, and there are a few things I believe will be good coming from this adjustment:
1. No more single pwn motherships sitting on gate using smartbombs. Its too risky now by its own.
2. Reduction in number of used capitals? This is argumented I guess, but I know long before this nerf where brought to our attention people where saying the caps where the worst coming into the game! Because now it turned into Capital online! Other words, people looked on a thanatos as the next "logical" step after getting a battleship! or a CS! And, you know its not! Cap ships are logistic ships! Capitals are support ships! Capitals are fleet operation ships. And, yes. They do have great powerstrength in their right enviroment still!
3. a few more ideas too, ill mention them later on... im at work right now...
Sarah McTeef: You all should really try and stay on topic. Which when I last checked, was my grocery list |
Uda Nahn
Pukin' Dogs D0GMA
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Posted - 2007.11.09 10:12:00 -
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Well me not being Gallente I think the changes to drones are just nber cool
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Jack Thurner
Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2007.11.09 10:15:00 -
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Edited by: Jack Thurner on 09/11/2007 10:15:40 Don't forget about scripts.. ehm..
*brings out his C#/Java/SQL/JavaScript/RUP and other sys. dev. books* Bring it!
[Edit] Forgot about the MSDN library...
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Kastar
Memphis Technologies Intergalactic Brotherhood
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Posted - 2007.11.09 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Khalm What I have seen in past couple of weeks in the forums have made me little depressed. Seems, that there is nothing but bad things coming. Many things that use to be good aren't as good anymore. EOS, drones, carriers, ...
Just stop it. you're adding to this ridiculous athmosphere just as well with this phrase. Eos, drones, carriers will be changed, but people need to start realizing this doesn't mean they become bad.
One won't wtfpwn anymore, and that's a bloody good thing. -----------------------------------------------
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Alex Harumichi
Gallente Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.11.09 10:24:00 -
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Edited by: Alex Harumichi on 09/11/2007 10:24:51 A lot of good things coming, mostly good in fact I'd say.
Sure, there are some issues.
- The damp/TD/sensor booster nerf might be a bit overdone. Gallente and Amarr recons might be hit (too) hard by this.
- The Eos triple-nerf leaves it a close-to-worthless ship in any role.
- The new torps run the danger of being too good, blaster and pulse laser ships may become close to obsolete.
- The Black Ops jump bridge fuel use as compared to the BO cargo capacity seems wonky, and leaves the ships close to useless in practice.
...and stuff like that. However, overall it's looking pretty good. Lots of balance fixes, new ships, etc etc
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.11.09 10:40:00 -
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One of the Dev blogs (use eve search) said that with the new GFX and reflective ship hulls, amarr lasers will only do just over half the damage that they do now, though the reflected laser energy may splash damage onto ships nearby the intended target, with subsequent reflections passing the damage onward until the 2x Falloff distance is reached, with square law reductions for de-focussing the beam.
probably. -- Awwwww Diddums! Did I wardec your highsec alt recently or something? |
Ather Ialeas
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.11.09 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Thurner Edited by: Jack Thurner on 09/11/2007 10:15:40 Don't forget about scripts.. ehm..
*brings out his C#/Java/SQL/JavaScript/RUP and other sys. dev. books* Bring it!
[Edit] Forgot about the MSDN library...
RUP is awful tbh -
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Kerfira
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Posted - 2007.11.09 10:46:00 -
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Plenty of good stuff coming up: 1. New drone control system 2. Carrier hauler herf 3. Mineral compression change 4. New fleet management system 5. New killmail system 6. Mass increase for freighters 7. Damp nerf 8. Drone bandwidth
One 'meh' thing coming too: 1. New ships
And finally, one bad thing: 1. Jump freighters
So, the good stuff that'll have positive effects on the game far outweighs the bad.....
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.11.09 10:46:00 -
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Everything!
Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang
"The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it." |
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Uxiz
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Posted - 2007.11.09 11:30:00 -
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cover the nerfs under new shiny graphics and everyone is happy
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2007.11.09 11:40:00 -
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For somebody who don't give a damn about mulipurpose carriers and overpowered drone boats I have this to say about the next expansion...
It's conna rock ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute |
Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.11.09 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler Everything!
ROFL! *wipes monitor clear from coke*
That was hilarious! .. everything. Oh dear god make it stop! .. oh wait.
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Raneru
Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2007.11.09 13:09:00 -
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I'm looking forward to recon gangs using black ops bs to jump about. I'm not sure about the jump range / cost per jump as I can't fly them yet, but if its reasonable it should be a nice alternative to nano gangs for small corps in terms of survivability.
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realbadman
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Posted - 2007.11.09 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Everything!
ROFL! *wipes monitor clear from coke*
That was hilarious! .. everything. Oh dear god make it stop! .. oh wait.
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Hikaru Kai
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Posted - 2007.11.09 13:31:00 -
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Can someone please be kind enough to explain in simple terms what they mean by the "Mineral Compression" changes?
Thank you in advance.
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