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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.03.02 11:54:00 -
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Remove them, they are lame, they cause lag, and are to powerfull against frigates, all combat drones should be removed!
i dont minds mining drones, but cmon, who really relys on drones fo anything, i mean, i dont think anyone would suffer that much if drones were removed!
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.03.02 11:56:00 -
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agree 
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.02 11:57:00 -
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If I was a gatecamping pirate, I'd be mad about this suggestion
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.03.02 11:59:00 -
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I agree. Drones suck.
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Kerr AVON
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:00:00 -
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Remove them, they are lame, they cause lag, and are to powerfull against frigates, all combat drones should be removed!
i dont minds mining drones, but cmon, who really relys on drones fo anything, i mean, i dont think anyone would suffer that much if drones were removed!
... A typical Caldari statement. Worried about us showing our superiority again?
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bugeye
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:06:00 -
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Remove them, they are lame, they cause lag, and are to powerfull against frigates, all combat drones should be removed!
i dont minds mining drones, but cmon, who really relys on drones fo anything, i mean, i dont think anyone would suffer that much if drones were removed!
My thorax relies on drones. they are excellent to kill npc frigates while my blaster's take care of the cruisers.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:06:00 -
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No just worried that, drones are hindering fleet combat by noobs who camp jumpins with hundereds of drones, which still cause lag!
and dude, 1v1 id pwn you no matter how many drones u have deployed
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Infection
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:10:00 -
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If you don't like that drones are used to lag gates still, request for them to disable the ability to launch them from 100km of a gate.... Then both sides are happy. (Well not the gate campers who use them.)
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Verbal Kint
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:12:00 -
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are you Boy's Mad?
removing Wombat Drones... yeah then i really could do some drillin' in the fields.
I'm Gallente admitted, we love drones. Any kind of drones, I use 'em for mining and i use 'em for protection when I'm out there mining...
remove them and i had to mount guns on my boat... What a horrible thought...
Heavy Wombats might be a handfull for Frig's aye, and we can discuss if that should be so. But you Can't remove them just like that.
As many other things ingame further tweaking might be needed, have to admit that even i find my 'Screen' of heavies frightening at times.
Especially by the thought that these are Tech 1 heavies...
But come on Hanns how would you react if I said we needed to remove all msls as they cause lag, to powerfull against Frigs and are just lame? remember I'm Gallente 
I'm relying on them. I know a lot of other Gallente players are and even some players from the other 3 races. They are as needed for the game as msl's are.
Don't go around whinning like that. It's not becomming of a Caldari Gentleman...
Verbal Kint
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:14:00 -
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Drones are only useless because everyone and his blind tommygun wielding toad are in battleships.
I.E drones are not your problem gamewise.
Drones ARE meant as a counter frigate measure.
As for lag... your only valid point... even that is getting better.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:15:00 -
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No just worried that, drones are hindering fleet combat by noobs who camp jumpins with hundereds of drones, which still cause lag!
yeah, and ur one of does n00bs!!
"We brake for nobody"
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:18:00 -
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Removing Missiles, has no resemblence to removing drones, drones are not Gallante's primary weapon you use Hybrids, not drones, if u used only drones to attack ppl, u would be dead nub..
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:18:00 -
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Edited by: Hanns on 02/03/2004 12:23:18
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No just worried that, drones are hindering fleet combat by noobs who camp jumpins with hundereds of drones, which still cause lag!
yeah, and ur one of does n00bs!!
I dont even use Drones, Very well thoughout post mr Icenub, and get a new sig, or make another one in your milk break in kindergarten....
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:20:00 -
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If I was a gatecamping pirate, I'd be mad about this suggestion
well i am gatecampping pirat and culd not realy care less... if i had drones or not ....
They may be another solution to problem thoug...
All stargates got Realy strong magentik field right?
How abaut that field will prevent anykind of usage of drones in the vincinity of Stargate ?
just a thoth 
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Infection
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:22:00 -
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are you Boy's Mad?
removing Wombat Drones... yeah then i really could do some drillin' in the fields.
I'm Gallente admitted, we love drones. Any kind of drones, I use 'em for mining and i use 'em for protection when I'm out there mining...
remove them and i had to mount guns on my boat... What a horrible thought...
Heavy Wombats might be a handfull for Frig's aye, and we can discuss if that should be so. But you Can't remove them just like that.
As many other things ingame further tweaking might be needed, have to admit that even i find my 'Screen' of heavies frightening at times.
Especially by the thought that these are Tech 1 heavies...
But come on Hanns how would you react if I said we needed to remove all msls as they cause lag, to powerfull against Frigs and are just lame? remember I'm Gallente
I'm relying on them. I know a lot of other Gallente players are and even some players from the other 3 races. They are as needed for the game as msl's are.
Don't go around whinning like that. It's not becomming of a Caldari Gentleman...
Verbal Kint
I concur, even whilst being Minmatar, I use Gallente ships for mining. Without the use of drones you would mine half the yeild in any setup.
Being no drones for safe mining or no drones to defend while you mine in unsafe space. Without drones your likly to never see a thorax jump out into 0.0 space and mine ever again. So again, I agree with Verbal Kint here.
As for combat they don't do a whole lot of good. 
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:23:00 -
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I dont even use Drones
yeah right, remember when u was in BioMass Cartel? You were all using Drones to create jump in LAG!!!
"We brake for nobody"
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:24:00 -
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I dont even use Drones
yeah right, remember when u was in BioMass Cartel? You were all using Drones to create jump in LAG!!!
Yes my nooblar corp mates did, but ask anyone i dont use drones, i havent even trained the skill past lvl 4, i hate drones think they spoil frig combat, and corps who try and use frigs (Mercenery frigates)
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Infection
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:24:00 -
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If I was a gatecamping pirate, I'd be mad about this suggestion
well i am gatecampping pirat and culd not realy care less... if i had drones or not ....
They may be another solution to problem thoug...
All stargates got Realy strong magentik field right?
How abaut that field will prevent anykind of usage of drones in the vincinity of Stargate ?
just a thoth
Yeah, pretty much why I said no use of drones from 100km of a gate. :p
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:28:00 -
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Simply removing drones would cause severe unbalancing of shps/races (Gallente anyone?)
IMO, the biggest problem is not enough thought has gone into what different drones are actually for. Apparently they are supposed to be anti-frigate devices for bs, but if heavy drones are for killing frigates, what are light or medium drones for? Scouting? Erm, don't think so.
Unless something a little more varied can be thought up, ccp may as well just scrap drones and replace with secondary weapon turrets for smaller weapons, because that's all they really are.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:30:00 -
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I dont even use Drones
yeah right, remember when u was in BioMass Cartel? You were all using Drones to create jump in LAG!!!
Yes my nooblar corp mates did, but ask anyone i dont use drones, i havent even trained the skill past lvl 4, i hate drones think they spoil frig combat, and corps who try and use frigs (Mercenery frigates)
okay then, you dont use drones! but ur n00blar corp mates did, and they used a lot of them.
Drones are still good. Used for deep space mining and to do a bit extra dmg to ur target...
"We brake for nobody"
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Kovak
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:44:00 -
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As far as I know there are only three weapons that work while jammed, fof missiles, smartbombs and drones.
Don't personally think it would be a good idea to remove one third of your options...
On the otherhand here's a nifty idea, why not nerf back every drone bay except for the gallente ships... gallente can use heavy combat drones since we're the experts all the other races ships can have holds big enough to carry mining drones or some light combat drones....
Being a gallente it sounds like an excellent idea to me ;)
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Ertai Vodalion
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:47:00 -
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as I use drones and the ones asking to remove them donŠt I feel free to ask to remove missiles - I donŠt use them !
kthxbye !
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Lurk
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Posted - 2004.03.02 13:02:00 -
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I think the drones need to be changed rather than being removed.
The current problem is that the drones, even the heavy ones, have no tracking or other accuracy modifiers.
There should be several types of drones effective against several types of ships.
Small, agile Drones that are effective against frigates and other fast-moving objects - they should be rather small in size, be fast and fast tracking (so they hit almost everything) but do little damage (to give frigates a chance vs drone-packed BS).
Heavier Drones to pick on big, slow objects such as heavy cruisers or BS. These should still be fast but have problems to hit things that are moving as fast as a frigate. To compensate for that those drones should do considerabe more damage but still have a limited range. (They should orbit BS's so they have problems hitting with LR-Weapons)
Artillery Drones that are big in size and do a similar damage as the heavy drones but have a better range (i'm thinking of something like 20-30km)
Anti-Drone Drones - Very fast, good tracking and do good damage vs drones but almost none when fighting ships. These drones should be very small to be used by frigates do they can defend themselves against those uber-drone-carrier cruisers and BS.
Additionally, to decrease lag, they could up the drone's volume and make them better instead (that would cause people to use less drones but still allow them to be as effective as before).
I'd like to see repair drones, too.
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Deep Spacer
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Posted - 2004.03.02 15:51:00 -
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when i go hunting my weapon of choice is a thorax with 8 heavy drones and 250 rails. my drones have a 40km range and i can control all 8 of em, added to the 50km range of the 250's i can kill almost anything at range. funny to see some dude with drones 4 whining about how they should be removed because of camping and being overpowered vs. frigates.
if drones were removed all gallente ships would become crap (besides maybe the megathron) who wants a dominix when u cant use its main weapon, drones.
if u get rid of drones u might as well drop frigates as well, cause they gonna eat any ship alive without drones for defence.
the whole point of heavy drones was to kill frigates, the problem is everyone is flying around in battleships with large drone bays, which CCP didnt intend. and this makes frigates quite worthless against a BS with 8 heavies
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.03.02 15:57:00 -
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I don't mind drones, but I sure hate the lag they create.
I use heavy drones but I try not to deploy them unless I really really have to..
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Pitt
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Posted - 2004.03.02 16:53:00 -
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What are you on, whatever it is keep it to yourself. I decided to be Gallante because of drones, and have used them since I started playing the game at release. Just because you don't like them they need to go? All I can guess is that you got your a$$ handed to you by a few heavies.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:06:00 -
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we dont use drones either, we find the lag to hinder our fighting also, not just our opponent.
1v1s im sure they are rather nice, but how many 1v1s do we see:).
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Rinji
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:15:00 -
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Don't be silly. Dones need some work, sure, and they are not overly useful for PVP, but 9 heavies used by someone who knows what they are doing can be quite helpful for NPC hunting.
Vice Admiral Rinji Morisato
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:34:00 -
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What are you on, whatever it is keep it to yourself. I decided to be Gallante because of drones, and have used them since I started playing the game at release. Just because you don't like them they need to go? All I can guess is that you got your a$$ handed to you by a few heavies.
Anyone who gets there ass handed to them by heavies, is either in a frigate or a noob, so sit down and STFU,
I hate drones for the lag, and that seems to be the only reason anyone uses them, why have drones deployed in fleet battles where your enemy can be over 70km away? its just ghay, and thye clutter up your screen, and its hard to see whats going on!
Drones are ghay ghay ghay......
they need Removing or Fixing ASAP!
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:37:00 -
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Touch my drones and die!
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