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Astro Jones AJ Corp 0	Posted - 2012.01.29 00:57:00 - [1] - Quote Ok, i'll admit I have not played EVE that long and i'll admit it's my mistake but i feel it's a little harsh....I was pod killed twice and lost 40 days worth of training, i had no clue this could happen and I just wonder why you lose skill when your killed? I could see it happening to a red or a aggressor but in my case i feel it was quite harsh sense all i did was enter my first wormhole just to check it out...
T' Elk Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 277	Posted - 2012.01.29 00:58:00 - [2] - Quote Because of falcon. ~Winter came. God wears-áRay Ban Aviators.
Jacob Stiller The Scope Gallente Federation 1116	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:00:00 - [3] - Quote Because you neglected to pay the price of updating your med clone.
Zleon Leigh 76	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:00:00 - [4] - Quote OP skipped training... Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital. CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day
gfldex 300	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:03:00 - [5] - Quote You ignored the warning message presented to you. The game has a tutorial that gives you a mining laser and a railgun and tells you to go shoot rocks and red crosses. It teaches you nothing else. It's been that way for 8 years, so are you really surprised that there are people who aren't aware that this is a pvp game? --Jafit McJafitson
Astro Jones AJ Corp 0	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:03:00 - [6] - Quote Jacob Stiller wrote: Because you neglected to pay the price of updating your med clone. Trust me i get that now....but the question is why do you lose skill for being pod killed? Is it a isk sink...i do not understand why this happens.
Macks Artilius Definitive Exploration and Excavations The Watchmen. 17	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:03:00 - [7] - Quote 40 days? Ouch. Our corp sends emails periodically reminding us to update our clones... because it hurts so much when you forget. Honestly though, it really should be possible to set it up so that you auto-buy a clone of the appropriate grade when you're podded; I can't think of any reason why I wouldn't want to buy a new clone as soon as I got podded, ever. At very least there should be a popup saying something like "Your clone contract has been reset, would you like to buy a new clone contract now Y/N?" to remind you.
Grey Azorria Federation Industries 28	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:03:00 - [8] - Quote Astro Jones wrote: Ok, i'll admit I have not played EVE that long and i'll admit it's my mistake but i feel it's a little harsh....I was pod killed twice and lost 40 days worth of training, i had no clue this could happen and I just wonder why you lose skill when your killed? I could see it happening to a red or a aggressor but in my case i feel it was quite harsh sense all i did was enter my first wormhole just to check it out... Clones only keep so much skill points when you die, you can upgrade your clone using station medical services, when you doe, your medical clone is reset to the basic model, which only keeps a small amount of skill points, so before going out again you must upgrade it again. You can check what level your medical clone is by looking at your character sheet. (^assuming total noob^) edit: Yes, it is an isk sink, it is also an idiot trap. Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Umega Solis Mensa 70	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:05:00 - [9] - Quote Astro Jones wrote: Ok, i'll admit I have not played EVE that long and i'll admit it's my mistake but i feel it's a little harsh....I was pod killed twice and lost 40 days worth of training, i had no clue this could happen and I just wonder why you lose skill when your killed? I could see it happening to a red or a aggressor but in my case i feel it was quite harsh sense all i did was enter my first wormhole just to check it out... Troll. Looks like someone forgot to switch to their newb-looking alt.
gfldex 300	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:05:00 - [10] - Quote Astro Jones wrote: i do not understand why this happens. To make sure that bad players rush to the forum and whine about their loss. Thank you very much. Looks like I need a new tears jar now. The game has a tutorial that gives you a mining laser and a railgun and tells you to go shoot rocks and red crosses. It teaches you nothing else. It's been that way for 8 years, so are you really surprised that there are people who aren't aware that this is a pvp game? --Jafit McJafitson
Astro Jones AJ Corp 0	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:07:00 - [11] - Quote thanks, i know it's my mistake but the question still stands...why do you lose skill? i mean what's the point?
Astro Jones AJ Corp 0	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:08:00 - [12] - Quote gfldex wrote: Astro Jones wrote: i do not understand why this happens. To make sure that bad players rush to the forum and whine about their loss. Thank you very much. Looks like I need a new tears jar now. your not nice please do not troll my post...kthxbye
gfldex 300	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:11:00 - [13] - Quote Astro Jones wrote: your not nice please do not troll my post...kthxbye I will forward the evemail your just wrote to a GM. The game has a tutorial that gives you a mining laser and a railgun and tells you to go shoot rocks and red crosses. It teaches you nothing else. It's been that way for 8 years, so are you really surprised that there are people who aren't aware that this is a pvp game? --Jafit McJafitson
Mars Theran EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance 103	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:13:00 - [14] - Quote This is what happens when you don't pay attention to Tutorials and/or other player advice. How many people close Rookie chat the first day they log in, and every day after until they don't see it anymore? Quite a few I imagine. This isn't really your fault, and I'm not saying that, but there is some measure of help in the game to prevent you from discovering it in this fashion. Losing 40 days of training sucks. If you weren't aware of that, then I have to ask: Are you well-versed in optimizing your skill training? That could help to recover some of your lost time, if you weren't already using it. Much as I have a certain animosity for EVE University, (Corp. in game you might have heard of), and Agony unleashed, (Another one), I would suggest to you that you look them up, or at least visit E-Unis wiki and forums: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Category:Skills Some helpful stuff there. I only really dislike some of the Directorship and certain aspects of the way the Uni is run, so my animosity is fairly shallow. Agony Unleashed just happens to be closely related and some experience with them has lead me to feel similar animosity regarding them. That might change, one way or another. That being said, many people like the Uni, and many people hate it; it all depends on how you feel about it, that will determine what it means to you. Also, I know the CEO from other games as far as I know, (No mistaking that voice in Vent or Mumble, or anywhere really), and he's a good guy in my experience. TIIP: The Incredible Invisible Poster
Umega Solis Mensa 70	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:13:00 - [15] - Quote Astro Jones wrote: gfldex wrote: Astro Jones wrote: i do not understand why this happens. To make sure that bad players rush to the forum and whine about their loss. Thank you very much. Looks like I need a new tears jar now. your not nice please do not troll my post...kthxbye You're trolling GD with a thread claiming to be a new player to EVE.. in nearly a 3 year old toon. Obviously complaining about an easy to understand mechanic that is explained in tutorials and should never happen when you sit in a station and explore your options. Namely medical bays.. I see a new icon new to my eyes, I click and find out everything I can about it. If this is all even true.. and I still believe you're BS'ing just to make some demented point about how harsh EVE can be to people that can't mentally handle it.. the first pod death should have clue'd you in. If it didn't.. reap what you sow.
Astro Jones AJ Corp 0	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:14:00 - [16] - Quote gfldex wrote: Astro Jones wrote: your not nice please do not troll my post...kthxbye I will forward the evemail your just wrote to a GM. you do that...
gfldex 300	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:14:00 - [17] - Quote Astro Jones wrote: thanks, i know it's my mistake but the question still stands...why do you lose skill? i mean what's the point? To give losing your clone a meaning. Without your tears it would just be a little change in a big database. I have died a thousand times and never shed a tear. That might be the reason why I don't have to insult other players. The game has a tutorial that gives you a mining laser and a railgun and tells you to go shoot rocks and red crosses. It teaches you nothing else. It's been that way for 8 years, so are you really surprised that there are people who aren't aware that this is a pvp game? --Jafit McJafitson
Hainnz Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 70	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:15:00 - [18] - Quote Don't you know? It's the same reason you can't train two characters on the same account, and alts are encouraged so much. CCP are the ultimate griefers. :)
Zleon Leigh 76	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:15:00 - [19] - Quote You loose skill because it's a fact of life as a pod pilot. As you gain new experiences you need to have a more capable clone in your pod to retain it all. If you decide to not maintain that edge, then you lose it. You decided to not maintain the edge (either through lack of reading the fine print, a conscious decision to save isk, or you just refuse to make isk and are poor). Now get that civilian mining laser out and earn that isk! or shut up after you simply screwed up. Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital. CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day
Alexandra Delarge The Korova 11	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:15:00 - [20] - Quote New Player Pays the Price eh? OP created the character on: 2009.03.28 I call troll.
Derath Ellecon Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal 134	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:19:00 - [21] - Quote Zleon Leigh wrote: You loose skill because it's a fact of life as a pod pilot. As you gain new experiences you need to have a more capable clone in your pod to retain it all. If you decide to not maintain that edge, then you loose it. You decided to not maintain the edge (either through lack of reading the fine print, a conscious decision to save isk, or you just refuse to make isk and are poor). Now get that civilian mining laser out and earn that isk! or shut up after you simply screwed up. You don't loose it, you lose it sheesh. Not like it needs to be tightened. But you only lose skill if you don't upgrade your medical clone.
Astro Jones AJ Corp 0	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:20:00 - [22] - Quote Umega wrote: Astro Jones wrote: gfldex wrote: Astro Jones wrote: i do not understand why this happens. To make sure that bad players rush to the forum and whine about their loss. Thank you very much. Looks like I need a new tears jar now. your not nice please do not troll my post...kthxbye You're trolling GD with a thread claiming to be a new player to EVE.. in nearly a 3 year old toon. Obviously complaining about an easy to understand mechanic that is explained in tutorials and should never happen when you sit in a station and explore your options. Namely medical bays.. I see a new icon new to my eyes, I click and find out everything I can about it. If this is all even true.. and I still believe you're BS'ing just to make some demented point about how harsh EVE can be to people that can't mentally handle it.. the first pod death should have clue'd you in. If it didn't.. reap what you sow. My EVE account has been off and on a few times, all iv'e ever done is missions. I have nothing bad to say about PVP i have not really tried it...so i dont really know anything about it. All i've done is asked why this happens, whats the point of it?
Jacob Stiller The Scope Gallente Federation 1116	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:27:00 - [23] - Quote Its a way of removing isk from the economy. I.e. an isk sink. If neglecting your med clone did not have a harsh consequence, then noone would pay the isk to update their clone.
Jienna Sarain Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:50:00 - [24] - Quote CURRENT CORPORATION AJ Corp [AJ C] from 2012.01.16 20:34 to this day PREVIOUS CORPORATION(S) The Scope [TS] from 2011.02.17 22:42 to 2012.01.16 20:34. RAGE Inc. (Closed) from 2009.05.10 19:08 to 2011.02.17 22:42. The Scope [TS] from 2009.04.26 17:17 to 2009.05.10 19:08. Astro Jones LLC (Closed) from 2009.04.06 04:33 to 2009.04.26 17:17. University of Caille [UC] from 2009.03.28 20:20 to 2009.04.06 04:33. Troll
Jacob Stiller The Scope Gallente Federation 1116	Posted - 2012.01.29 01:56:00 - [25] - Quote I found the OP's old character portrait interesting. http://forum.nibbletek.co.uk/portrait_viewer.php?character=astro%20jones What's with the wierd headgear?
Famble Three's a Crowd 275	Posted - 2012.01.29 02:04:00 - [26] - Quote Alexandra Delarge wrote: New Player Pays the Price eh? OP created the character on: 2009.03.28 I call troll. Create date means nothing in Eve. This game loses more new toons within their first 2 weeks then every other mmo out there combined. Sometimes they come back; till they're podded again. Create date means nothing. If anyone ever looks at you and says, "Hold my beer, watch this,"-á you're probably going to want to pay attention.
gfldex 300	Posted - 2012.01.29 02:22:00 - [27] - Quote Jacob Stiller wrote: What's with the wierd headgear? That's a tinfoil hat. The game has a tutorial that gives you a mining laser and a railgun and tells you to go shoot rocks and red crosses. It teaches you nothing else. It's been that way for 8 years, so are you really surprised that there are people who aren't aware that this is a pvp game? --Jafit McJafitson
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 697	Posted - 2012.01.29 02:32:00 - [28] - Quote gfldex wrote: I have died a thousand times .... Someone that sucks that bad shouldn't really be shitposting in a newbies thread. Mr Epeen Me too!-á I ate one sour, too!
Ai Shun 205	Posted - 2012.01.29 02:43:00 - [29] - Quote Astro Jones wrote: thanks, i know it's my mistake but the question still stands...why do you lose skill? i mean what's the point? Your character, in the pod, was killed. This starts a transfer of your consciousness, memories and thus skills to your nearest medical clone. Unfortunately your clone could only hold x Petabytes of information and when your consciousness, memories and thus skills were transferred you lost the overflow as there was insuficient storage. Why does this happen in game mechanic terms? To teach you about the balance between risk and reward. You risked those skillpoints when you flew without having an updated clone. Somebody punished you for that mistake. You've now learned about EVE online; a cold and harsh universe. Welcome. I hope your next lesson is not as painful.
The Snowman xLegion of the dammedx. 25	Posted - 2012.01.29 03:28:00 - [30] - Quote Its called 'death penalty' the penalty in eve is designed to give you the impresion of REAL danger. you cant just go blindly stumbling around the place ignorant of whats out there. there is a death penalty in every mmo, some are negligible some are harsh. you just failed to learn what that was before starting your journey. Is the penalty too harsh? Could CCP do more to inform you? Maybe, maybe not. This is Eve Online.

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