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Vrabac
Amarr
BALKAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2007.11.10 11:19:00 -
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First of all, it's not a whine, I dont really care that much (for those with reading comprehension issues: means i CARE but not THAT MUCH  ). But wanted to let fellow low sec pvpers know that...
When they browse the killboard of a certain alliance (lets not name it, just say it's called Mercenary Coalit--- oops!) they might not get the whole picture.  I know that I like to take a look at killboards since it is SUPPOSED to be representing entity's achievements, these guys apparently dont think posting losses counts towards it.
We were attacked by a small MC BS gang with rook and Cerberus support while having our own similarily sized gang but with no EW support. Fight ended when, after loosing Rokh, we destroyed Megathron and Tempest and forced Abaddon to warp out in low structure (thanks to Rook jamming), resulting in the rest of their gang (Rook, Cerberus and Raven) to run away. While we were still scooping loot, Abaddon decides to warp to station we were at to dock, landed 1-2 km from it and some 30-40 from me, I had time to load scorch (I really love scorch L) and he goes pop too, accompanied by many LOLs and HAHAHAs in gang chat. But sentries lay the final blow. I ask nicely for km, get no response. This is when I naively decide to visit MC kb to copy the mail... guess what. Rokh kill is posted (thats seconds after the fight). Losses? They never happened. THERE WERE NO LOSSES.  Ask again in local to at least post them so I can copy the missing mail, no repsonse.
And till now (24 hours passed) there is no mention of the 3 BS losses on MC kb.
In other words, MC kb could contain similar misfits with actual events. Again, dont really care a lot, I'd like to be able to post the Abaddon kill of course, but of bigger concern is IMHO that well estabilished and respected pvp alliance allows things like this to happen.  Sure reduced my respect I had towards them. Maybe losing 3 BS in a random low sec roam for fun is forbidden or something?
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Setana Manoro
Gallente
Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.10 11:29:00 -
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Have you tried contacting the leadership ?
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Nocturnal Avenger
The Ankou
The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.11.10 11:33:00 -
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Don't worry - BoB also fail to post their losses from time to time. Losses that did not include rats dealing final blows btw.
My alliance has not shot many BoB's, but at least 2 losses out of 31 have not been posted (I have checked less than 10 in total).
One of the losses was even pointed out to their CEO - to no avail.
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Vrabac
Amarr
BALKAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2007.11.10 11:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Setana Manoro
Have you tried contacting the leadership ?
No, got the feeling someone losing and killing capitals on daily basis won't pay too much attention.
Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger
My alliance has not shot many BoB's, but at least 2 losses out of 31 have not been posted (I have checked less than 10 in total).
I see. Thing is in this case it's the entire engagement, except for the single kill they managed, that wasn't reported. Looks a bit ugly, not really a random loss here and there. Especially with the kill posted. Oh well.
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spanky herman
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Posted - 2007.11.10 11:39:00 -
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I propose that a statute be created for the accuracy of internet space game killboards act.
The act we can call it: "Fast Orderly Right Update Method With Historic Inaccuracy Nerfing Enactment" or FORUMWHINE as the short title.
All pixels in any space based game must be accounted for accurately and in a timely manner since any electrons not reported properly could cause the e-manhood to shrink severlly. I would mention e-womanhood but they are just to far above whining over things like this it isn't needed.
If you didn't care about it there would be no post - If you wanted to address the issue then eve-mail is the proper course but apparently you chose option C.
The proper response to that option is : Ha Ha Ha Ha , buy a plant you need something else in your life if an electronic record of imaginary kills of people on the internet is you life's main focus.
I would quote you but this is clearly a whine and you do care, Find a coupon in the paper or phone book and seek help. You need some other way to gauge your life than a kilboard from a video game.
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Endeva
Caldari
Most Wanted INC
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Posted - 2007.11.10 11:47:00 -
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Edited by: Endeva on 10/11/2007 11:52:55
@ vrabac-- contact their leadership like CEO of corp that pilot died or send him eve mail.. if you get no response in 24h i would fake the KM with ******** fit so others pilot can laught at him when they browse your kb. but first contact CEO.
@Nocturnal Avenger
bob has most accurate KB from all alliances that has 1000+ ppl.
try to browse MM HYDRA RAZOR TRI CPU KOS UNL and other southern killboard and you will see difference.
i can tell you for sure that cos last month we were in campaign at north and i was watching enemies KB to see how much they are posting
and now same situation is in south
edit: but really vrabac first contact their ceo cos making threads like this you know what you will get.
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Vrabac
Amarr
BALKAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2007.11.10 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: spanky herman
The proper response to that option is : Ha Ha Ha Ha , buy a plant you need something else in your life if an electronic record of imaginary kills of people on the internet is you life's main focus.
LOL you failed to understand the point even with my special aid for the ones with comprehension disorders. You get a prize!
YES, herman, I in fact DO CARE. I won't kill myself over it nor will I feel very bad about it, but I actually care about stats and even about imaginary kills (still not about to commence wit real ones) because:
a) I like this game
b) I'm not a hypocritical forum troll alt
c) Like all games where people compete against other people, recodring achievements is something that adds to the pleasure and fun
I'm sure you, being totally independant from the electronic world and imaginary success against people on the internet, accidentally created EVE account, logged in on the forums, checked them, read my post and answered.
I'm sure your RL is awesome, since pointing out at other people having none based on the fact they like to play the game you play yourself clearly makes you an awesome fellow. 
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Dri Kulsane
Amarr
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.10 12:31:00 -
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Of course as someone mentioned you could have just contacted the unmentioned alliances leadership, lets call them Contr...Inc for now!
I'm going to assume there is a very valid reason for the mails not being posted, being the start of the weekend or something else perhaps those who were involved didn't have the chance or just forgot. My corp however as a general DOES post all loss mails I can assure you.
Also, posting in the COAD forums tends to get you even more public glory and attention. Keep that in mind for your future 
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Vrabac
Amarr
BALKAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2007.11.10 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dri Kulsane
I'm going to assume there is a very valid reason for the mails not being posted, being the start of the weekend or something else perhaps those who were involved didn't have the chance or just forgot. My corp however as a general DOES post all loss mails I can assure you.
They posted the kill. Immidiately. No losses after 24h.
Originally by: Dri Kulsane
Also, posting in the COAD forums tends to get you even more public glory and attention. Keep that in mind for your future
Har har! Wasn't the point unfortunately. As I said I was and still am pretty sure someone losing titans wont give a damn for a private question about 3 lousy bs losses which was supported by some of the above posters' experience.
Also posting a killmail is something rather simple, never was under impression you have to ring on some highup's doors to have it done properly, while still being something worth public mention (mention, not anything more, therefore not going into that coad thing) considering your high profile among the pvp comunity.
Anyway I expect it will be sorted out now.
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Dri Kulsane
Amarr
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.10 13:21:00 -
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It's actually really nice when someone contacts me personally directly about issues which might be in question. I'm sure all CEO's and members of other corps leadership are like minded about the whole thing.
The lads who lost the ships will post them I'm sure the next time they are online. Just don't always expect people to post straight away, they might sincerely be busy and only get around to it later.
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mallina
Caldari
Core Contingency
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Posted - 2007.11.10 13:38:00 -
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Edited by: mallina on 10/11/2007 13:44:06
Originally by: Endeva
bob has most accurate KB from all alliances that has 1000+ ppl.
In other words, least inaccurate KB from all alliances of similar size. It is by no means Accurate, just better than most.
MC members don't exactly have the greatest track record for posting losses, either. I'm guessing that Sacrilege and Deimos loss to my Geddon never happened?
People (not just MC) tend not to post 'embaressing' losses these days , especially if they're K/D ratio monkeys. Vagabond pilots are the worst - I've yet to see the lossmails posted of any Vaga pilot I ever killed with my Harby.
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Htrag
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2007.11.10 14:06:00 -
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Edited by: Htrag on 10/11/2007 14:06:34
I honestly dont have the time to follow up on every non-posted loss on someone elses kb... I'd be sending a couple evemails a day to leadership, as well as cross checking their killboard for possible losses that we didn't post. I generally write it off to simple human error.
Anyway, since this is about MC... here's one:
Astarte
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Endeva
Caldari
Most Wanted INC
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Posted - 2007.11.10 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: mallina
Edited by: mallina on 10/11/2007 13:44:06
Originally by: Endeva
bob has most accurate KB from all alliances that has 1000+ ppl.
In other words, least inaccurate KB from all alliances of similar size. It is by no means Accurate, just better than most.
MC members don't exactly have the greatest track record for posting losses, either. I'm guessing that Sacrilege and Deimos loss to my Geddon never happened?
People (not just MC) tend not to post 'embaressing' losses these days , especially if they're K/D ratio monkeys. Vagabond pilots are the worst - I've yet to see the lossmails posted of any Vaga pilot I ever killed with my Harby.
noone can have 100% accurate kb except mabye some small corps that have 10-20 members. but when you have 1000 ppl in allaince its hard to track every single of them.
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Wu Jiun
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Posted - 2007.11.10 16:00:00 -
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Edited by: Wu Jiun on 10/11/2007 16:00:36
This is so funny. Goddamn they posted the kills of that fight but they didn't get around to post the losses? BWAHAHAHAHA! How can that mc guy still take himself serious?
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joshmorris
Ravenous Inc.
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.10 16:21:00 -
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Most alliances do this. It isnt the alliance's fault its the players fault because they are bitter about there loss.
I have had many experiences in small gangs (1-2) where we kill the enemy but the rat gets the km and they dont post or give it to us they just laugh ...
Alliances like mine have some people who go onto the enemys kb and any kills they have vrs us that havnt been posted we post on our loss's.
Imo whats the point of having a kill board when your too bitter to post losses.
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.10 16:22:00 -
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I've seen two MC posts in here to the effect of "Well, they were probably busy and will post them later." If the OP's story is right...
1. They were STILL ONLINE and not answering in local.
2. They intentionally didn't post the losses, but had time to post the kills.
3. They're not busy elsewhere, just ashamed to post their losses.
Its simple really.
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Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.10 16:45:00 -
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Hopefully, all KB related problems go away when CCP implements their new kill tracking system.
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Some people say I have a bad attitude. Those people are stupid.
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Neon Razor
Caldari
MAFIA
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Posted - 2007.11.10 17:16:00 -
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posting losses a day of 2 after they happen means no ship looses on front page of killboard only kills. In my experience MC are pretty good at posting just give it a few days
There is no moral difference between a Stealth bomber and a suicide bomber. They both kill innocent people for political reasons. |
Locke Deathroe
Clan 86
Antesignani Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.10 17:42:00 -
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WEll I can say with 100% certinity that BoB does NOT have an accurate killboard. Shrike just put off his doomsday and there were well over 20 BoB ships that went pop, 3 of them are shown!!
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Vrabac
Amarr
BALKAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2007.11.12 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Dri Kulsane
he lads who lost the ships will post them I'm sure the next time they are online. Just don't always expect people to post straight away, they might sincerely be busy and only get around to it later.
Ok losses havent been posted yet, altough the first of the 3 BS pilots we killed I checked was involved in 2 kills after the one he scored, both posted on your KB with him being the one who layed final blow in both cases. I'm sure he was sincerely very busy. It's safe to presume MC don't post losses. (pilot in question has 939 kills and 5 losses)
Guess we'll listen to Endeva's suggestion and just fake it... CEO responded in this thread after all, and not 24 but over 48 hours passed. Sad eh?
Subject closed for me.
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Orar Ironfist
Incarnation of Evil
Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.12 22:27:00 -
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Wow thats pretty bad not posting losses. My respect level for MC just went down by alot.
-=YYYAAAAARRRRRRR!!!!!=-
Winning or Losing doesn't matter, as long as the fight itself was good.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.11.12 22:58:00 -
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Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 12/11/2007 22:58:39
What? MC being lame? Say it aint so! 
On a personal note, Muffins post all the losses to my knowledge, regardless of how embarassing it is
That one was a while ago but we still laugh at him
Can't believe MC cynoed in 2 motherships for our 6 man gatecamp (4 BC, 2 BS )
Originally by: Liz Kali
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking
I owned someone on forums!!! |
techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.11.13 00:41:00 -
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That is kinda screwed... posted the kills but no time for the losses. I've had to bug corp mates about posting losses a few times... I'm sure i'm missing some from back in the day.
Never could call myself a kill/death ratio ***** tho.. never understood the point in eve, since my clone never dies, i "technically" never died hahah
Everyone in my corp knows how many ships I lose, so if I stopped posting losses it'd be kinda obvious
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.11.13 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0
That is kinda screwed... posted the kills but no time for the losses. I've had to bug corp mates about posting losses a few times... I'm sure i'm missing some from back in the day.
Never could call myself a kill/death ratio ***** tho.. never understood the point in eve, since my clone never dies, i "technically" never died hahah
Everyone in my corp knows how many ships I lose, so if I stopped posting losses it'd be kinda obvious
clones have no soul 
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.11.13 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: techzer0
That is kinda screwed... posted the kills but no time for the losses. I've had to bug corp mates about posting losses a few times... I'm sure i'm missing some from back in the day.
Never could call myself a kill/death ratio ***** tho.. never understood the point in eve, since my clone never dies, i "technically" never died hahah
Everyone in my corp knows how many ships I lose, so if I stopped posting losses it'd be kinda obvious
clones have no soul
you fly a nerf-a-baddon... so ram it
And my clones have soul... I can't stand being docked in the same station with them because of the constant singing coming from the clone vats
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.11.13 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0
you fly a nerf-a-baddon... so ram it
He told you off
Originally by: Liz Kali
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking
I owned someone on forums!!! |
Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.13 02:08:00 -
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I've never posted a single loss
but then I've never bothered setting up a kb at all
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 04/11/2007 21:34:44
*EDIT* You know what, Tortun has this one under control...*
*Basks in the chaos of this thread |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.11.13 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: techzer0
That is kinda screwed... posted the kills but no time for the losses. I've had to bug corp mates about posting losses a few times... I'm sure i'm missing some from back in the day.
Never could call myself a kill/death ratio ***** tho.. never understood the point in eve, since my clone never dies, i "technically" never died hahah
Everyone in my corp knows how many ships I lose, so if I stopped posting losses it'd be kinda obvious
clones have no soul
you fly a nerf-a-baddon... so ram it
And my clones have soul... I can't stand being docked in the same station with them because of the constant singing coming from the clone vats
you fly a drake
i think i win
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Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.11.13 03:54:00 -
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yea MC are becoming like everyother alliance in game....lame imo
even after the CEO posted in here the OP says that the kills still are not posted
Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
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Suitonia
Gallente
interimo
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Posted - 2007.11.13 08:02:00 -
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Well when killmail 1.5 launches, and we get the promised api features, and mails all be sent to the alliance leader or someone with roles so they can upload all the alliance/corps kills/losses at once, faking mails, and avoiding mails will be very difficult, if not impossible. It'll be interesting to see how killboard stats might change when this feature is released . I think a few mercenary corporations I know are going to have their effiency epeens snipped.
Until that magical time comes. Always make sure you run fraps when fighting people, espically the people who claim moral highground, and post on the forum how 'great and honourable' they are. Name and shame their unposted losses once you collect quite a few, and as a bonus usually you'll get a couple of logoffski's, Self Destructs & Self Concordekens (During empire wars). Nothing better than to drop a forum drama bomb .
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