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Navjumper1 Setenta Corp Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2007.11.10 23:53:00 - [1] 300 ish in local.. ... Lag so bad you cant do a thing with 30 fps in a 2000 dollar computer? Let me guess. logs show nothing, and its something on my side.. im out.. no you cant have my stuff, i have nothing left..
Ask Unbeatable Gallente HighTech Marines Ltd. FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.10 23:54:00 - [2] You should try small roaming gangs every once in a while. That and solo piracy keeps me
Aleyah Dawnborn Caldari SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.10 23:55:00 - [3] What the poster above said. It's a known issue that huge blob fights will lag the node, it's been that way for a long time and it's something they're working on improving - which is no small feat. The value of your computer has absolutely nothing to do with it. --- My God! It's logic! Flee!
Kenneth McCoy Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.10 23:56:00 - [4] Why are you wasting our time? I don't even want your stuff.
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2007.11.10 23:59:00 - [5] I hate to do this, but its so fitting: OP = waaaah waaaaah waaaaah try 100 in local and lagging, with a silicon crap for a PC (1Ghz, geforce 5200, 512ram). oh wait, its 300 in local, havent you even considered its the node that's starting to die? - Odd Pod Out, a blog of EVE Online
Terail Zoqial	Posted - 2007.11.10 23:59:00 - [6] heh, you got ripped of. I have a $600 pc and it does the same
Srenim Orcam	Posted - 2007.11.11 00:00:00 - [7] Originally by: Navjumper1 300 ish in local.. ... Lag so bad you cant do a thing with 30 fps in a 2000 dollar computer? Let me guess. logs show nothing, and its something on my side.. im out.. no you cant have my stuff, i have nothing left.. ahem Can I have your nothing?
Hannobaal Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.11 00:01:00 - [8] Edited by: Hannobaal on 11/11/2007 00:02:49 Originally by: Navjumper1 Let me guess. logs show nothing, and its something on my side.. im out.. no you cant have my stuff, i have nothing left.. You do know that even if CCP's servers could keep track of lag for all players logged on (which is nearly impossible), lag is actually NOT grounds for reimbursement of lost ships?
Gone'Postal Minmatar Vengeance 8 Interceptors	Posted - 2007.11.11 00:04:00 - [9] Originally by: Terail Zoqial heh, you got ripped of. I have a $600 pc and it does the same LMFAO, Pure WIN. \0/ CCP SlideShow Games \0/ "Eve" Proof that <1FPS games can still generate income.
Stellar Vix State War Academy	Posted - 2007.11.11 00:16:00 - [10] Hey im sure the computers they have are about 20 grand a pop and im sure they are experincing teh same lag. SWA PVP

ilovedronesandcarriers	Posted - 2007.11.11 00:17:00 - [11] navjumper has Le OutragT!
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2007.11.11 00:37:00 - [12] Your stuff. Can I have it? -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? GMP and TNP
IamBen Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.11.11 00:51:00 - [13] the lag was quite bad during the first encounter in j7, the second encounter was slightly better. But yes still, the lag really does nail down the fun level of the game. Of all the stuff to be working on, fix the lag!
Kenneth McCoy Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.11 00:54:00 - [14] I'm pretty positive that the group of people that are responsible for the 'lag' and the remedy thereof are not just sitting back downing brewskies. I'd be willing to bet that they are doing the best they can given the tools and resources available to them. tl;dr - Quit *****ing.
End Yourself Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2007.11.11 01:04:00 - [15] Naverin go play WoW for God's sake. Noone needs your constant whining! And "no you cant have my stuff, i have nothing left.." All you EVER did was grind ISK freeloading. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Red Dot'Clicking	Posted - 2007.11.11 01:08:00 - [16] We know that caldari space is often laggy due to number of players there. I dont know how they have the servers set up. I assume they have a different box for each region or some such static arrangement. You dont actualy need this though. You could allocate a box to handle Jita alone within a static arrangement with the rest of the forge on a different machine. When you jump its simply deleting your ship in the one area and creating it again from the database in the new one. The problem is simply one of dynamic load balanacing. This is a problem you find all the time in computer systems. For example network routers route packets according to the traffic. You would have to move away from a static system and allocate resources according to the player population. So if 200 players jump in that system gets dedicated hardware. Lets face it. The guys at CCP are not the brightest developers in the world. The awful UI should tell you that much. These problems have been solved in other areas and can apply equaly to EVE. They should be concentrating on their core business of game design and leaving the issues of software development and systems implemention to people that are good at it.
Phantom Slave Amarr Mozzaki United	Posted - 2007.11.11 01:11:00 - [17] They are working with IBM and Microsoft to create an actual Super Computer with real-time load balancing. Give them time to do this, they have it slated for some time in 2008, and when it's finished they'll have one of the largest super-computers in the UK. ____________________ Changes on Sisi are NOT the end of the world. Wait until Rev III/Trinity is released before drawing conclusions.
End Yourself Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2007.11.11 01:12:00 - [18] Originally by: Red Dot'Clicking We know that caldari space is often laggy due to number of players there. I dont know how they have the servers set up. I assume they have a different box for each region or some such static arrangement. You dont actualy need this though. You could allocate a box to handle Jita alone within a static arrangement with the rest of the forge on a different machine. When you jump its simply deleting your ship in the one area and creating it again from the database in the new one. The problem is simply one of dynamic load balanacing. This is a problem you find all the time in computer systems. For example network routers route packets according to the traffic. You would have to move away from a static system and allocate resources according to the player population. So if 200 players jump in that system gets dedicated hardware. Lets face it. The guys at CCP are not the brightest developers in the world. The awful UI should tell you that much. These problems have been solved in other areas and can apply equaly to EVE. They should be concentrating on their core business of game design and leaving the issues of software development and systems implemention to people that are good at it. They are actually doing that sort of, THE problem is that they can't assign more than one node per system. So Jita for example is the only system running on that node but it still isn't enough. But Nav's problem is that he is the epic failure and not CCP. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.11.11 01:58:00 - [19] Originally by: Ask Unbeatable You should try small roaming gangs every once in a while. That and solo piracy keeps me This is fine and i totaly agree. However CCP should stop trying to make out they can handle it when they cant. HUGE FLEET BATTLES and all that malarky they witter on about SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2007.11.11 01:58:00 - [20] Originally by: Phantom Slave They are working with IBM and Microsoft to create an actual Super Computer with real-time load balancing. Give them time to do this, they have it slated for some time in 2008, and when it's finished they'll have one of the largest super-computers in the UK. Cant we just use all these PS3's sitting idle everyone is talking about SKUNK

Yerik Locke Caldari The New Order. United Connection's	Posted - 2007.11.11 02:03:00 - [21] Guess what. Eve is ahead of its time. You have to make sacrifices. Deal with it. And stop saying epic ***** this and epic *** that. It's ***** annoying and makes you sound mindless and stupid. /troll
Sylvia Lafayette	Posted - 2007.11.11 02:20:00 - [22] Originally by: Yerik Locke Guess what. Eve is ahead of its time. You have to make sacrifices. Deal with it. And stop saying epic ***** this and epic *** that. It's ***** annoying and makes you sound mindless and stupid. /troll how about epic annoyance?.... which is what all the whining causes
Chockcat Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.11.11 02:27:00 - [23] Originally by: Terail Zoqial heh, you got ripped of. I have a $600 pc and it does the same EvE classic welcomes you.
Exuscon Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.11 02:31:00 - [24] BAD NETCODE!!! CCP fails! "Save the tree! Wipe your arse with an owl instead."
Phantom Slave Amarr Mozzaki United	Posted - 2007.11.11 03:34:00 - [25] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Phantom Slave They are working with IBM and Microsoft to create an actual Super Computer with real-time load balancing. Give them time to do this, they have it slated for some time in 2008, and when it's finished they'll have one of the largest super-computers in the UK. Cant we just use all these PS3's sitting idle everyone is talking about SKUNK I wish. That would be a TON of processing power, since anybody who bought a PS3 is letting it collect dust! ____________________ Changes on Sisi are NOT the end of the world. Wait until Rev III/Trinity is released before drawing conclusions.
Hunter Kag	Posted - 2007.11.11 03:42:00 - [26] Edited by: Hunter Kag on 11/11/2007 03:43:42 Originally by: Exuscon BAD NETCODE!!! CCP fails! Lets see you do better. Post how the code you write to handle 30,000 connections that is so much better.
Stefx Gallente Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.11.11 03:46:00 - [27] Originally by: Le Skunk Cant we just use all these PS3's sitting idle everyone is talking about SKUNK I stopped calling mine a PS3... I now call it "The Blu-Ray player". Maybe when GT5 comes out I'll start playing on it... ----------- MOP recruiting Industrialists/miners/traders/missioners/etc
Moonlight Express Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.11 03:51:00 - [28] Originally by: Hunter Kag Edited by: Hunter Kag on 11/11/2007 03:43:42 Originally by: Exuscon BAD NETCODE!!! CCP fails! Lets see you do better. Post how the code you write to handle 30,000 connections that is so much better. Maybe they need to re-design the game, so that it encourages players to split up to take control of system and stations instead of piling everyone in to one grid or node and promoting blob warfare. If the code or technology can't handle the lag, then the design need to adjust to discourage blobbing instead of promoting it.
Kenneth McCoy Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.11 03:55:00 - [29] Certainly, lets just redesign the entire game. What, that doesn't make sense to everyone else?
Peter VonThal Raygun Technologies	Posted - 2007.11.11 04:01:00 - [30] Originally by: Moonlight Express Maybe they need to re-design the game, so that it encourages players to split up to take control of system and stations instead of piling everyone in to one grid or node and promoting blob warfare. If the code or technology can't handle the lag, then the design need to adjust to discourage blobbing instead of promoting it. The game objectives are hitting the weak point in the architecture. However, Hilmar seemed pretty confident that the CCP, IBM and MS supercomputer co-op can solve the system load balancing problems. It looks like they are working hard towards that at the moment, but things probably won't change much until then.



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