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Dimitry Kalashnikov The Black Fleet	Posted - 2007.11.12 23:51:00 - [31] Originally by: Curzon Dax Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov Originally by: Curzon Dax Edited by: Curzon Dax on 12/11/2007 10:10:30 Originally by: Poena Loveless ---well--- I personally put afk miners just above real macro miners. I may not suicide 'em, but I do like knocking them off the roids. Its just plan fun and it kinda irks me when I people printing isk for simply being logged in. PLAY the game, and before you say it, what you do isn't playing the game and its your own fault. (I don't remember reading about afk mining in the tutorial) I mission run mostly afk, I mine mostly afk, I PvP half afk. Please don't post anymore. The size of your head is eating up my bandwidth. Sorry. The size of your intellect requires me post as often as possible in an effort to help give the impression that the forums aren't full of neanderthals. But then again, when your posting solely consists of leveling personal attacks at people back to back for no particular reason, you probably already have guessed that you're not exactly at the top of the gene pool.... So you've somehow managed to assess my intellect and my genetics through a one liner post. I'm thoroughly impressed. Perhaps you'd find Palmistry of interest seeing as how you read lines, have no idea what the mean then proceed to tell people exactly at what level they are. Or maybe a politician since your full of ****. ============================================== Freelancer 2 Petition
Battleclash	Posted - 2007.11.12 23:59:00 - [32] Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov Originally by: Curzon Dax Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov Originally by: Curzon Dax Edited by: Curzon Dax on 12/11/2007 10:10:30 Originally by: Poena Loveless ---well--- I personally put afk miners just above real macro miners. I may not suicide 'em, but I do like knocking them off the roids. Its just plan fun and it kinda irks me when I people printing isk for simply being logged in. PLAY the game, and before you say it, what you do isn't playing the game and its your own fault. (I don't remember reading about afk mining in the tutorial) I mission run mostly afk, I mine mostly afk, I PvP half afk. Please don't post anymore. The size of your head is eating up my bandwidth. Sorry. The size of your intellect requires me post as often as possible in an effort to help give the impression that the forums aren't full of neanderthals. But then again, when your posting solely consists of leveling personal attacks at people back to back for no particular reason, you probably already have guessed that you're not exactly at the top of the gene pool.... So you've somehow managed to assess my intellect and my genetics through a one liner post. I'm thoroughly impressed. Perhaps you'd find Palmistry of interest seeing as how you read lines, have no idea what the mean then proceed to tell people exactly at what level they are. Or maybe a politician since your full of **. Damnit kids! If I have to turn this thread around you'll both be in so much trouble when we get home! Originally by:** Vladimir Ilych Stupidity is universal.
StainLessStealRat	Posted - 2007.11.13 00:26:00 - [33] AFK mining in any form is Macro mining as you are using a macro so please stop calling your *****of a trade (mining) afk mining.It is not legal to use a macro in Eve so you are breaking rules not going AFK
Leora Nomen	Posted - 2007.11.13 00:28:00 - [34] Edited by: Leora Nomen on 13/11/2007 00:30:40 Originally by: Valron Xizor I've been called a macro miner 3 times last night and two the day before because I'm mining and havent responded to a local 'hail' and it's very annoying. Having something in your bio written in english or one of european languages might help. Before I go for high sec miners I check up their info. If they have some kind of a bio that required thought and command of english or one of european languages, I most likely will discount the possibility that you're a macro. Not to say that I don't go for those miners that look real, but at least I'm not going to call you a macro in the process if that makes you feel any better. guide to game time codes
Smacktalking Alt	Posted - 2007.11.13 03:00:00 - [35] Originally by: StainLessStealRat AFK mining in any form is Macro mining as you are using a macro so please stop calling your *****of a trade (mining) afk mining.It is not legal to use a macro in Eve so you are breaking rules not going AFK A macro is a program running separately from the client that plays the game in lieu of a player. AFK mining is not the same as macro mining. Just because you want to believe something, doesn't make it so.
StainLessStealRat	Posted - 2007.11.13 05:03:00 - [36] ___________________________________________________________ A macro is a program running separately from the client that plays the game in lieu of a player. AFK mining is not the same as macro mining. Just because you want to believe something, doesn't make it so. ___________________________________________________________ So how does one AFK mine without using a macro , Using the force Luke. ?
Smacktalking Alt	Posted - 2007.11.13 05:38:00 - [37] Edited by: Smacktalking Alt on 13/11/2007 05:42:57 Originally by: StainLessStealRat ___________________________________________________________ A macro is a program running separately from the client that plays the game in lieu of a player. AFK mining is not the same as macro mining. Just because you want to believe something, doesn't make it so. ___________________________________________________________ So how does one AFK mine without using a macro , Using the force Luke. ? That, or just... starting up a mining laser and leaving the computer for a while. I have a feeling that we have a slight misunderstanding with regards to terminology.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.13 06:07:00 - [38] Originally by: StainLessStealRat ___________________________________________________________ A macro is a program running separately from the client that plays the game in lieu of a player. AFK mining is not the same as macro mining. Just because you want to believe something, doesn't make it so. ___________________________________________________________ So how does one AFK mine without using a macro , Using the force Luke. ? Yes, when I mined gasp i would only check the screen when my hold was full or my lasers stopped cycling. So I could get stuff done away from the computer, read a book, or even run my second account around doing things. A macro is a program, that is not a part of EVE and will control your ship while you're away. If i had to sit there and push a button to keep mining or restart my lasers after every cycle then I wouldn't have ever gone AFK... but then I would never have mined either because it's very very boring just sitting there watching rocks all day. ____________________ Hi. I'm not an alt :)
Frodon Antiloncker	Posted - 2007.11.13 08:24:00 - [39] Originally by: CaptDevil Lol frodon tu lui a clouT le bec asser rapide Yeahhh Capt Comment ta va? Le but Ttait pas de lui clouer le bec mais de le faire rTpondre mais pour le moment rien. Attendons encore un peu Passe le bonjour a mes fleurs prTfTrTs Frodon
Valron Xizor The Xizor Cartel	Posted - 2007.11.13 09:25:00 - [40] Originally by: Orar Ironfist Originally by: Valron Xizor [b]With a 3 Cargo Expander 2's . Hulk has 2 lows unless you can somehow D3V H4X in a third Yes, my bad. 2 Cargo Expander II's 2 Cargo Expansion rigs (forget the exact name of them) equates to over 17K m3 cargo space.

Valron Xizor The Xizor Cartel	Posted - 2007.11.13 09:50:00 - [41] Originally by: StainLessStealRat ___________________________________________________________ A macro is a program running separately from the client that plays the game in lieu of a player. AFK mining is not the same as macro mining. Just because you want to believe something, doesn't make it so. ___________________________________________________________ So how does one AFK mine without using a macro , Using the force Luke. ? Difference between macro and afk. Macro: When the roid pops the macro will automatically target another and keep mining without the player doing anything Afk: When the roid pops the the ship will sit in space doing nothing until the player returns to the keyboard, targets another roid and starts the mining laser again. The only part that is done AFK without a macro is the actual mining of the roid which requires no player interaction what so ever. Personally I think anyone who actually sits and stares at the screen during this process has far too much time on their hands That said I sometimes watch a movie whilst mining and check the screen frequently, but that's not different to going out the room and washing the car!!
Voltain Cursed Souls	Posted - 2007.11.13 10:41:00 - [42] Edited by: Voltain on 13/11/2007 10:41:27 Hi, my name is Voltain. I AFK mine. I also lost my barge last night.....I forgot to deploy my drones
Kayna Eelai Gallente Shadow Legion Covenant Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.11.13 12:38:00 - [43] Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov So you've somehow managed to assess my intellect and my genetics through a one liner post. funny coming from some1 who managed to know the size of a head of a person, just from a forum post. fixed to 23.15 kB (23710 bytes)
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.13 12:51:00 - [44] Originally by: Kayna Eelai Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov So you've somehow managed to assess my intellect and my genetics through a one liner post. funny coming from some1 who managed to know the size of a head of a person, just from a forum post. It was Curzon Dax he flamed... of course he could ____________________ Hi. I'm not an alt :)
Valron Xizor The Xizor Cartel	Posted - 2007.11.13 12:59:00 - [45] Originally by: Voltain Edited by: Voltain on 13/11/2007 10:41:27 Hi, my name is Voltain. I AFK mine. I also lost my barge last night.....I forgot to deploy my drones Have to admit I lost my first covetor in a similar way however I did deploy my drones. I'd forgotten the night before I switched my combats for mining drones
Tramp Oline	Posted - 2007.11.13 15:40:00 - [46] LOL, you guys need to turn on your shield boosters. If you can't fit or run a small shield booster, put 3 or 4 civilian shield boosters on. Civilian shield boosters are great and give you close to the same shield boosting as a small shield booster but with less fitting requirements and less cap usage. Originally by: Valron Xizor Originally by: Voltain Edited by: Voltain on 13/11/2007 10:41:27 Hi, my name is Voltain. I AFK mine. I also lost my barge last night.....I forgot to deploy my drones Have to admit I lost my first covetor in a similar way however I did deploy my drones. I'd forgotten the night before I switched my combats for mining drones
Tramp Oline	Posted - 2007.11.13 15:46:00 - [47] Even regular ice is profitable these days. If you were at the keyboard mining regular ore, I'd say stick with that but since you are afk mining then ice is the way to go. Originally by: Valron Xizor Yes, the roids do pop often and I do have to re-target and activate my lasers everytime I pass the PC. Is ice profitable? I thought they moved the decent ice out of Empire. If so, 'look out people! my hulk is coming to an ice belt near you!'
Valron Xizor The Xizor Cartel	Posted - 2007.11.13 16:15:00 - [48] Originally by: Tramp Oline LOL, you guys need to turn on your shield boosters. If you can't fit or run a small shield booster, put 3 or 4 civilian shield boosters on. Civilian shield boosters are great and give you close to the same shield boosting as a small shield booster but with less fitting requirements and less cap usage. Originally by: Valron Xizor Originally by: Voltain Edited by: Voltain on 13/11/2007 10:41:27 Hi, my name is Voltain. I AFK mine. I also lost my barge last night.....I forgot to deploy my drones Have to admit I lost my first covetor in a similar way however I did deploy my drones. I'd forgotten the night before I switched my combats for mining drones Yep, you live and learn. That was a while ago. The tank I have on my hulk is similar to the one suggested in the mining guide.
Ulstan Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.13 16:25:00 - [49] Quote: I personally put afk miners just above real macro miners. Uh, there isn't any other way to mine. Lock roid, activate mining lasers then...sit there until your hold fills up. If you're using a hulk it's almost pointless to be jettisonning to a cargo can for a hauler anyway so seriously, there's nothing to do until your hold fills up or your asteroid explodes. I have an alt that I 'afk' mine with occasionally, and he'll often spend many minutes just sitting at a roid with his mining lasers turned off after his hold fills up but I haven't gotten around to telling him to warp back to the station.
WrathchildeVOTF	Posted - 2007.11.13 18:14:00 - [50] Originally by: StainLessStealRat AFK mining in any form is Macro mining as you are using a macro so please stop calling your *****of a trade (mining) afk mining.It is not legal to use a macro in Eve so you are breaking rules not going AFK Wow. Free clue: Afk = Away From Keyboard Macro = Program to activate preprogrammed commands within a game. Now, you CAN be AFK, and be using a macro, however being AFK does not require using a macro. Macrominers are macrominers. AFK'ers are simply not at the keyboard, and therefore are doing nothing more than what they have personally activated manually. You fail.

StainLessStealRat	Posted - 2007.11.14 04:36:00 - [51] *----------------------------------------------------------Wow. Free clue: Afk = Away From Keyboard Macro = Program to activate preprogrammed commands within a game. ----------------------------------------------------------- Now, you CAN be AFK, and be using a macro, however being AFK does not require using a macro. Macrominers are macrominers. AFK'ers are simply not at the keyboard, and therefore are doing nothing more than what they have personally activated manually. ----------------------------------------------------------- I will Humbly eat my words i had no idea people would risk there ship for only one cargo load of ore, i am aware of what a Macro is and what AFK does mean, i just had no idea that people did it for any more than one cycle to have a quick smoke ect, i personaly would not risk it for a 2 mill load of ore but i appologise to all who do, if i have offended you i am sorry and will think through all my post's more before venting straight to the key board. I have been rather touchy on the Macro subject after a large group has moved into my home system and now every friday and monday within 2 hours of down time all kern in the 27 belt's is gone leaving a hard slogging miner like me and my corp mate's mining the left over pyro ect.
Ulstan Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.14 05:30:00 - [52] I agree with you that macro miners/haulers/etc need to be shot down, but afk miners are not macro miners and are no real threat to you- they would be a much bigger threat to you if they were actually at their keyboards, because afk mining is extremely inefficient.
Valron Xizor The Xizor Cartel	Posted - 2007.11.14 10:46:00 - [53] Originally by: StainLessStealRat *----------------------------------------------------------Wow. Free clue: Afk = Away From Keyboard Macro = Program to activate preprogrammed commands within a game. ----------------------------------------------------------- Now, you CAN be AFK, and be using a macro, however being AFK does not require using a macro. Macrominers are macrominers. AFK'ers are simply not at the keyboard, and therefore are doing nothing more than what they have personally activated manually. ----------------------------------------------------------- I will Humbly eat my words i had no idea people would risk there ship for only one cargo load of ore, i am aware of what a Macro is and what AFK does mean, i just had no idea that people did it for any more than one cycle to have a quick smoke ect, i personaly would not risk it for a 2 mill load of ore but i appologise to all who do, if i have offended you i am sorry and will think through all my post's more before venting straight to the key board. I have been rather touchy on the Macro subject after a large group has moved into my home system and now every friday and monday within 2 hours of down time all kern in the 27 belt's is gone leaving a hard slogging miner like me and my corp mate's mining the left over pyro ect. Risk? The only risk are suicide gankers but tbh I think if you're ganked by them your gonna die whether at the keyboard or not unless you have an uber tank. I mine all the time and I've never seen a suicide squad yet. They exist but are rare. I mine in 1.0 most of the time so there's no rats but even when I mine in 0.5, 5x t2 combat drones, shield boosters on and there's little risk. I dont go AFK when I mine in low sec.
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation	Posted - 2007.11.14 11:25:00 - [54] My alt also AFK mines in a Hulk. And you know what, it's great. Makes me a lot of ISK. I'm either off running missions on this character while my lasers do their thing, or I'm off around the house cleaning or more likely working out as of late. When I hear that the asteroids I was on are depleted, I come back, switch to the next ones, and continue with what I was doing beforehand. Boohoo at whoever doesn't like it. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head. To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed. To be my friends and special pets.


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