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Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.13 04:42:00 - [1] Edited by: Archbishop on 13/11/2007 04:43:50 They live in squalor, in sin, in blindness to the cost of their lifestyle. They worship themselves above all else and believe nothing has consequence thus their lives of sin. The Gallente. Tomorrow evening I will travel to several primary Gallente systems in one of the new SPCS bestowers the TES RESCUE III on a mission of mercy to bring food and water to the poor Gallente left homeless in the gutter of their decayed civilization. While there I will bring an offer of hope and enlightenment to those that would listen and an offer to return in a few short days to provide free transportation to a place where they can redeem themselves and atone for their sins. A place where they can give up the "freedoms" of their past and become what they were meant to be as a servant to God. A place where their needs are met and they are treated as individuals rather than a distraction as they were when they were forgotten and looked down on by their fellow Gallente on the Crystal Boulevards. I invite all who would hear my words of compassion and peace to gather when I speak in the main Gallente systems tomorrow evening. Hear the words of friendship and hope I convey and discover the lies and mistruths the decievers would have you believe about the Amarr and God. Discover why they are so afraid. I will update my travels here along with photographs of my journey. I will be unarmed save my cloaking device and I will put my trust in God to protect me. While terrorists may attack and corrupt Federation government officials who are content with their sinful lifestyle may seek to silence me they can not silence the message. God's will shall be done. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.13 04:55:00 - [2] I think it's high time I offered my personal thanks to you, Archbishop, for your continued efforts to extend enlightenment to the Gallente. Though I turned my back on my peoples' ways, I have certainly not turned my heart from their spiritual plight. Thank you, m'lord. Do provide me with the details of your missionary trip; I would be honored to provide an escort.
Souvera Corvus Gallente Universal Exports	Posted - 2007.11.13 05:07:00 - [3] I trust you won't show anyone the shackles until after they board?
Ishtar Hathor Minmatar Dark Requiem	Posted - 2007.11.13 06:28:00 - [4] Yuh know Bishy sugar if yah was to dye that cloak black yuh'd look just like darth sage! Are yuh both related? Ah mean yuh both sprout such total and utter nonsense though granted yuh nonsense is a bit more understandable though only just! Space truckers know where it's at!
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2007.11.13 07:11:00 - [5] Archbishop, stay out of Gallente space. You're not wanted by a single person therein and I consider any attempt by you, a confirmed Amarrian Loyalist, to stray into the ground which I am charged by the Federation Navy to protect from terrorists just like you, a "danger case" for political terrorism. Simply put, it is a fact that Loyalist Amarrians never enter any territory but their own with any sort of peaceful intention. Thusly, the only logical conclusion si that you are entering Federation territory with malign intent, in your case, presumably for purposes of a covert biochemical assault or incitement to violence. ----- Mixed Metaphor is now recruiting! Contact me for details.
Conlin Gallente Yiotul Fighters Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.11.13 08:10:00 - [6] This gallente has a gift for you , hope you take an escort , youl,l need it .
PiF Gallente TAKAGI Corp Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.11.13 10:08:00 - [7] The federal space is free for all travelers, even for those who are in a crusade. Thus you are welcomed in the Federation, M. Archibishop. A TAKAGI Corp fleet will be dispatched in order to insure your safety and to show you how welcoming our Federation can be. Past slave conflicts shall not interfere with your journey in the Federation and we'll make sure you'll be able to see with your eyes what our civilisation is about. Of course a copy of the Federal Code will be downloaded to you via SecureAccess because you may know that several laws changes between the Amarr Empire and the gallente Federation. We wouldn't want Federal authorities to abduct you and send your for trial because of a simple misunderstanding of the law. Given that your legal staff will quickly advise you about what's possible and what is not possible to do in Federal space, we'll assume that you will be then fully aware that, for example, abducting gallente citizens, whatever their condition is, is illegal too. You will understand that the TAKAGI Corp fleet will enforce Federal Laws. Know something ? Sell it to the NeXus network
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2007.11.13 11:46:00 - [8] PiF, if I might have a word with you. An urgent one. ----- Mixed Metaphor is now recruiting! Contact me for details.
Myxx Gallente Daughters Of Venus	Posted - 2007.11.13 12:06:00 - [9] Archbishop, while I echo commander pif's sentiments, do be aware that while you are in gallente space, we will be paying close attention to your activities. You are, in my mind at least, not welcome in Gallente space. Myxx - Daughters of Venus - Battlecruiser, Cruiser pilot. all comments, unless otherwise said so, are my own and not reflections of the daughters of venus.
Sofring Eternus Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.13 14:07:00 - [10] I do not understand why so many believe that Amarr slavers abduct helpless citizens everywhere they roam. The majority of Amarr slaves are Criminals and Prisoners of War. Some of the criminals are even purchased from other Empires, discreetly of course. Citizens often fight taxes because of personal greed, and a convicted felon sentenced to life without parole is often an unexpected and untapped revenue stream. Thats probably one of the larger reasons that the Republic is faced with so many problems. In their zeal to release and welcome every slave they come across, they are literally cradling the viper to their bossom. Also the Archbishop has already indicated that he is doing missionary work, filling his holds with food and water. Offering salvation. Salvation often requires servitude, but not necessarily slavery. Not every servant is a slave, and not every slave is a servant. --- ΞνΞ ΘΠLІΠΞ Amarr dont need Grr... and RAWR is definately too much, but some Oomph would be nice.
John Tanashima Caldari Ekchuah Incorporated	Posted - 2007.11.13 15:04:00 - [11] While hereditary servitude is abhorrent to our culture, the great moral value of voluntary servitude is something we Caldari share with the Amarr. As a bred diplomat and trader, my open-mindedness does sometimes overexpose me, like too many Caldari in the interregional trading business, to certain Gallente sins: not their low quality smut holos (no citizen from good standing stock likes these caricatures), but their populist and relativist ideas. My personal spiritual advisor has greatly insisted I should listen to ArchbishopÆs sermons and broadcast them for my crews. I shall be there in my personal security yacht with no heavy armaments as for once my presence is not aimed at the federation but at myself. John Tanashima CEO, Contre-Amiral Ekchuah Incorporated
Conlin Gallente Yiotul Fighters Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.11.13 15:17:00 - [12] Originally by: Sofring Eternus I do not understand why so many believe that Amarr slavers abduct helpless citizens everywhere they roam. The majority of Amarr slaves are Criminals and Prisoners of War. Some of the criminals are even purchased from other Empires, discreetly of course. Citizens often fight taxes because of personal greed, and a convicted felon sentenced to life without parole is often an unexpected and untapped revenue stream. Thats probably one of the larger reasons that the Republic is faced with so many problems. In their zeal to release and welcome every slave they come across, they are literally cradling the viper to their bossom. Also the Archbishop has already indicated that he is doing missionary work, filling his holds with food and water. Offering salvation. Salvation often requires servitude, but not necessarily slavery. Not every servant is a slave, and not every slave is a servant. It matters not how you dress it , slavery is slavery ! .
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2007.11.13 20:05:00 - [13] Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 13/11/2007 20:05:42 Mixed Metaphor's end-of-day statement: Archbishop, MXD will consider any attempt by you or any entourage related to your "missionary work" to enter Federation space, regardless of that system's security rating, to be a probable terrorist infraction, and we will treat it as such. In layman's terms, which is the maximum level of intelligence which I've seen any Amarrian able to operate at: Step on my turf and I'll blow your pretty little Bestower a new exhaust vent. ----- Mixed Metaphor is now recruiting! Contact me for details.
John Tanashima Caldari Ekchuah Incorporated	Posted - 2007.11.13 20:42:00 - [14] So this is how preachers are received in the Federation, you really have a thing against anybody leaving your "turf" individual secession is a federal crime too now? Will you shoot me too when I recruit drone techies for my crews ? Will you shoot your matar ôfriendsö when they come to recruit concerned gallente to help the republic ? I would really like to have your definition of free speech, if speech can be terrorism, remember that in the ôfacistö State, the brothers of freedom were repressed when they started violent action, not when they were distributing badly written propaganda! John Tanashima CEO, Contre-Amiral Ekchuah Incorporated
Bruno Bonner Gallente Lutin Group Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.11.13 21:06:00 - [15] Lutin Group would like to congratulate Takagi Corporation for ensuring Operation Blessing follows the legal code of the Federation and a splendid example of how we allow, and welcome, freedom of choice within our nation's borders. I personally hope your trip is unventful, Mr Archbishop, and that your work may help homeless citizens that aren't reached by the Federation social programs. Bruno CEO Lutin Group ------ aka BinderAJ
John Tanashima Caldari Ekchuah Incorporated	Posted - 2007.11.13 21:16:00 - [16] Indeed, I have nothing to reproach to the Acheron Federation in this specific case, despite the well known lack of religious tolerance in the federation, they at least seem to be able to keep their heads and not froth at the mouth when a peaceful preacher comes in their space. John Tanashima CEO, Contre-Amiral Ekchuah Incorporated
Saraith Narr Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.13 22:01:00 - [17] Originally by: Conlin It matters not how you dress it , slavery is slavery ! . It matters not how you dress it, terrorism is terrorism. How quickly the much vaunted "freedom" of the Gallente collapses when a humble preacher comes to spread the word of the Lord.
Madrosynth Minmatar	Posted - 2007.11.13 22:17:00 - [18] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 13/11/2007 20:05:42 Mixed Metaphor's end-of-day statement: Archbishop, MXD will consider any attempt by you or any entourage related to your "missionary work" to enter Federation space, regardless of that system's security rating, to be a probable terrorist infraction, and we will treat it as such. In layman's terms, which is the maximum level of intelligence which I've seen any Amarrian able to operate at: Step on my turf and I'll blow your pretty little Bestower a new exhaust vent. Unfortunately, I doubt that CONCORD or your federation will be very accommodating should you blow a new exhaust vent in anything - be it amarr or otherwise. Good luck with that. [Run dark] [Run silent]
Conlin Gallente Yiotul Fighters Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.11.13 22:37:00 - [19] Originally by: Saraith Narr Originally by: Conlin It matters not how you dress it , slavery is slavery ! . It matters not how you dress it, terrorism is terrorism. How quickly the much vaunted "freedom" of the Gallente collapses when a humble preacher comes to spread the word of the Lord. That humble preacher spreads slavery through the word of the lord , that is a weak man who hides his trues values by preaching . It matters not how you dress it I am a freedom fighter slaver , nothing more nothing less . What are you ? .
Mad Scorpion Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.11.14 01:18:00 - [20] Originally by: Saraith Narr Originally by: Conlin It matters not how you dress it , slavery is slavery ! . It matters not how you dress it, terrorism is terrorism. How quickly the much vaunted "freedom" of the Gallente collapses when a humble preacher comes to spread the word of the Lord. 1. Who are the terrorists the ones fighting for freedom, or the ones suppressing it? 2. I also saw or read nothing collapsing except perhaps an inflated ego. 3. Since when is Archbishop ever humble? 4. The word of your foul God preaches slavery, which is illegal in Federation space. 5. Instead of running all that food to the Federation, try feeding your existing slaves better. Maybe then less will die from disease and/or malnutrition. Mad Scorpion
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.14 01:44:00 - [21] Quote: Archbishop, MXD will consider any attempt by you or any entourage related to your "missionary work" to enter Federation space, regardless of that system's security rating, to be a probable terrorist infraction, and we will treat it as such. In layman's terms, which is the maximum level of intelligence which I've seen any Amarrian able to operate at: Step on my turf and I'll blow your pretty little Bestower a new exhaust vent. You speak words of bravado but I see only fear. Fear of the truth that a faithful servant of God brings to your empire of deviants and drug addicts. I spoke of the words of the deciever and the lies he would tell against the Amarr. You are one who has been infected by his words of hate and intolerance. You wear the mantle of anger and rage. You are out of control. Though I may fly to destruction tonight I do so in comfort knowing God watches out for His faithful servants. His strength shall be my armor even if the armor on the ship fails and his light shall guide my way even if the navigation system is destroyed by terrorist attack. Without God you are never alone... and never lost. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.14 02:34:00 - [22] 11/13/109 02:25 evetime Admirals Log: I must admit it's been awhile since I've ventured into this den of sin and deviance. The last trip I made here lead to a week stay a monestary in an attempt to purge the visions of drug infested despair I had witnessed with my own eyes. Now I returned though with a new focus and a new mission. ABOUT TO JUMP IN TO THE FEDERATION OF SIN I entered the Gallente Federation at a point near Oursulaert and waltzed past Gallente Police ships with my load of rescue supplies which included protein delicacies which the Federation has apparently outlawed. By the time I had left my first station I had handed them all out the starving masses were so many. APPROACHING THE FIRST STATION WHERE I HANDED OUT MY PROTEIN DELECACIES Moving on to Oursulaert I entered the system and docked at a so called "Research Center". DOCKING IN THE RESEARCH STATION I wasn't sure what type of research they were performing but obviously it wasn't research into the human condition. The hangar bay was filthy and the halls of the station were filled with people holding their hands out for food. I dispensed what food and water I had as well as handing out over 40 Pax Amarria to new pod pilots in system before planning my departure. I will continue my report shortly. Archbishop out. PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Kartis Was Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.14 02:42:00 - [23] Originally by: Archbishop Without God you are never alone... and never lost. ...a most telling slip of the tongue, father. And remember, God doesn't suffer fools. If you must pray on your fool's mission, pray that your cloak doesn't fail.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.14 02:51:00 - [24] Edited by: Archbishop on 14/11/2007 02:53:23 11/13/109 Admirals Log - Update - It's only been an hour since my last entry yet we're still in Oursulaert. The needs of the people here are great and we can not leave so many desperate people. We have started handing out the rest of our supplies. RESCUE SUPPLIES AND SURVIVORS We have taken in several survivors from one station where conditions were deplorable. While Port Sanctuary isn't officially open yet I believe we must care for these individuals thus I will take personal charge of them at their request. When brought food and physicians they literally fell to their knees and thanked the Amarr for their salvation. A truly touching scene. One poor group was made up of former exotic dancers who tried to prostitxte themselves to my crew! Needless to say they were quickly seperated from the rest of the survivors and given food and water. We began immediate religious instruction with these dancers considering the damage of their perverse lifestyle must run so deep. One said she had been dancing since she was 7 years old. A travesty! All are safe now. We moved to another station as we had no more food to supply. Enroute we stopped outside the research center and placed a can full of free Pax Amarria for the locals to read. FREE PAX AMARRIA FROM YOUR AMARRIAN FRIENDS So many would tell lies about the Amarr it is our hope they will see through our actions the truth about our kidness and generosity. Several people have approached asking about life in Amarr. We were completely honest with them explaining how all would be provided for them and they would come to know God through a life in service. We were honest about the difficulties of life as a Gallente Initiate but were also honest about the benefits. One group of a man, wife and three children stayed and listened to me speak for nearly an hour then asked me to let them come with us. We had to decline as we were low on room but promised an SPCS Bestower would return on Sunday night to rescue them after Port Sanctuary opens. We will remain here this evening then move on to the next system tomorrow. God bless the Amarr Empire! Archbishop Out PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Popsikle Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.11.14 03:33:00 - [25] I dont believe you. I dont even think you remember how to undock your ship, let alone how to climb into your pod. ____ <t20> i want to be in a manager potition at Hooters <SaraDawn> Garthagk, do you have it up ? <Garthagk> I can get it up anytime.
Karanth Gallente Crazy 88's	Posted - 2007.11.14 08:34:00 - [26] If Archbishop is able to help people, I am willing to support him. If he is on a poorly-disguised slave run, then there is a problem. Archbishop may be many things, but blatantly dishonest, in my opinion, is not one of those things. All that's left... There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. Well, there's not many of us left! -Rauth
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2007.11.14 08:46:00 - [27] Amarrians are compulsive liars. They call the Day of Darkness on Matar a "humanitarian effort". I have actually seen Archbishop use those exact words to describe it. Loyalists cannot be trusted. Luckily, I know where I can find this one. ----- Mixed Metaphor is now recruiting! Contact me for details.
Cypher Deus Caldari Strix Armaments and Defence Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.11.14 12:51:00 - [28] Archbishop, Might I ask why, if your goodwill to the Gallente people is honest and genuine, you felt the need to use Slaver Hounds to control those homeless people and exotic dancers who "cried for help" ? The views expressed in this message are entirely my own, and in no way constitute an official view of Strix Armaments & Defence or the Acheron Federation The views expressed in this message are entirely my own, and in no way constitute an official view of Strix Armaments & Defence or the Acheron Federation [img]http://www.penguinsegg.com/stri
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G0rF Gallente The Causality Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.11.14 13:39:00 - [30] Edited by: G0rF on 14/11/2007 13:39:25 Without wishing to be rude, I have to correct you on a few points. When you leave Amarr, you turn LEFT for Gallente space. You appear to have turned RIGHT, and arrived in Thukker territory. Either that, or you have fallen through a space-time rift and are in an alternate universe to the rest of us. I spent rather a lot of my planetside career in Oursalaert and the surrounding systems, and in the five lifetimes I was there, I never saw anything that even approaches what you describe. Cap that with the fact that the Federation does not abandon it's less fortunate citizens, but actually has a government scheme in place to assist and support them (unlike your own fine Empire, which does abandon its cripples, mental defectives and unemployed), and I really cannot reconcile what you say you have seen with what I have seen for myself. The Gallente, for all their self-absorbed hedonism, are a people of civilisation second only to the Jin-Mei, and, in fact, far more supportive of their poor than we. I believe that you, sir, are a charlatan and a trickster. Your entire story is a fabrication.
Myxx Gallente Daughters Of Venus	Posted - 2007.11.14 15:11:00 - [31] A question for archie, humor me if you want. You (as in PIE, SPCS and others) commonly refer to gallente with the term "Initiates" while you refer to the Matari as "livestock" (obviously wanting to enslave them). Now, it is under my belief that, really, neither are different in any way at all in your intentions for anyone - regardless of race or bloodline - that you take with you. You must understand that due to our discussion last night, I'm less than welcoming to your presence in Gallente space because I and others percieve your intentions here to be no different than your intentions with the Matari people you claim to "rescue" as well. Perhaps if you'd explain these intentions better we might be nicer depending on what we see. This isn't meant for political spin at all, I'm rather intrigued how you'd spin this to be positive for your own "crusade". sig here: Myxx - Daughters of Venus - Battlecruiser, Cruiser pilot. Pilot of the DV Antross Thorax Cruiser, and the DV Antross II Brutix Battlecruiser
John Tanashima Caldari Ekchuah Incorporated	Posted - 2007.11.14 16:17:00 - [32] While only a true Amarr could answer, few true Amarr would lay down at our level, I believe the distinction is that Initiates are already on the way to salvation, as they accept slavery voluntarily, a great part of the path is already walked. As for livestock, much of the slaves in Amarr are criminals and much further down the path of salvation, before walking the path, thay must be beaten back to a ôneutralö state, at this state, they are not considered fully human but ôpre-humansö only valuable through their potential, like a tube child before imprinting (no offence meant to tube children, I am one myselfà) Of course, I would gladly welcome a correction from an expert theologian like Archbishop ! John Tanashima CEO, Contre-Amiral Ekchuah Incorporated
Mourn Navarre Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.11.14 17:37:00 - [33] Originally by: Archbishop They live in squalor, in sin, in blindness to the cost of their lifestyle. They worship themselves above all else and believe nothing has consequence thus their lives of sin. Right there you had me thinking about the Amarr. I don't think any words best describe the Amarr than those. But I digress. What I am trying to understand is this. Why do you preach about what is wrong with the society of other races in direct opposition of your own society when those problems that you state are true of any existing society? Are you that blinded by faith that you don't see the same poverty and suffering on your own worlds that is plain for any common person travelling to them to witness or are you preaching this loudly in order todivert attention from it?
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2007.11.14 17:58:00 - [34] Originally by: Mourn Navarre Right there you had me thinking about the Amarr. I don't think any words best describe the Amarr than those. But I digress. What I am trying to understand is this. Why do you preach about what is wrong with the society of other races in direct opposition of your own society when those problems that you state are true of any existing society? Are you that blinded by faith that you don't see the same poverty and suffering on your own worlds that is plain for any common person travelling to them to witness or are you preaching this loudly in order todivert attention from it? Navarre, I will bet you a considerable ammount of ISK that this statement you've made, while undeniably and objectively true, will ultimately fall on deaf ears. Amarrians are of the opinion that anything one of the Amarrian faithful does, as long as he remains faithful, cannot be wrong, simply by merit of the fact that he is Amarrian, and faithful. They will never stray from this position, they will never listen to anyone who states that it is wrong. Archbishop is an Amarrian, and he is faithful, thus, because he is a faithful Amarrian, he cannot say or do anything that is wrong - simply the fact that he, as an Amarrian with faith, did it, makes it right. That is the position of every Loyalist Amarrian. That is the reason that they are so dangerous - they believe that everything they do is correct, simply because it's them that's doing it. Likewise, anything that opposes these actions is automatically wrong and those that caused it must be removed from any position that allows them to continue such opposition. The Amarrians themselves do not strike fear into me (although I imagine that they think they do). What truly terrifies me is what they believe - not their God, not their Scriptures, but the fact that they truly believe that they are God's Chosen and that that "fact" allows them to do anything they please. ----- Mixed Metaphor is now recruiting! Contact me for details.
Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.14 18:23:00 - [35] Good fortune to you on this mission Archbishop.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.15 01:35:00 - [36] Quote: Archbishop, Might I ask why, if your goodwill to the Gallente people is honest and genuine, you felt the need to use Slaver Hounds to control those homeless people and exotic dancers who "cried for help" ? The Slaver Hounds are merely peaceful pets of mine who travel along with me on extended journey away from home. There is no alterior motive in their attendence aboard the Bestower. Quote: "Either that, or you have fallen through a space-time rift and are in an alternate universe to the rest of us. I spent rather a lot of my planetside career in Oursalaert and the surrounding systems, and in the five lifetimes I was there, I never saw anything that even approaches what you describe. Cap that with the fact that the Federation does not abandon it's less fortunate citizens, but actually has a government scheme in place to assist and support them (unlike your own fine Empire, which does abandon its cripples, mental defectives and unemployed), and I really cannot reconcile what you say you have seen with what I have seen for myself. The Gallente, for all their self-absorbed hedonism, are a people of civilisation second only to the Jin-Mei, and, in fact, far more supportive of their poor than we. I believe that you, sir, are a charlatan and a trickster. Your entire story is a fabrication. " Yes I understand your inferior need to try and excuse the pathetic sight of this Gallente Federation system. I do understand. However as you can see by one of the photographs provided above (which is purposely not entirely cropped in station) I am in fact where I say I am. Quote: "A question for archie, humor me if you want. You (as in PIE, SPCS and others) commonly refer to gallente with the term "Initiates" while you refer to the Matari as "livestock" (obviously wanting to enslave them). Now, it is under my belief that, really, neither are different in any way at all in your intentions for anyone - regardless of race or bloodline - that you take with you. You must understand that due to our discussion last night, I'm less than welcoming to your presence in Gallente space because I and others percieve your intentions here to be no different than your intentions with the Matari people you claim to "rescue" as well. Perhaps if you'd explain these intentions better we might be nicer depending on what we see. This isn't meant for political spin at all, I'm rather intrigued how you'd spin this to be positive for your own "crusade". sig here: Myxx - Daughters of Venus - Battlecruiser, Cruiser pilot. I enjoyed our discussion last night especially the part about "blowing me up"..... There is a genetic difference between the Minmatar and Gallente. The Gallente have some redeeming mental capacity while the Minmatar clearly are barbaric animals. Thus the opportunities provided are very different. With the livestock we must force them to take the medicine that is Enlightenment for their own good. With the Gallente Initiates however we offer them opportunity. Note the term "Initiates" refers not to the entire Gallente race but merely to those who make the conscious decision to accept what we have to offer. If I were out kidnapping Gallente from their homes I would agree with you but clearly that is NOT what is happening here. Quote: "While only a true Amarr could answer, few true Amarr would lay down at our level, I believe the distinction is that Initiates are already on the way to salvation, as they accept slavery voluntarily, a great part of the path is already walked." Partially true although I will reiterate that Initiates are not 'slaves' rather they sign themselves over to the SPCS with an understanding of the rewards (enlightenment) adn obligation (servitude) they will experience. The fact they make this choice willingly is proof of their worthiness. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.15 01:40:00 - [37] Edited by: Archbishop on 15/11/2007 01:43:19 Quote: What I am trying to understand is this. Why do you preach about what is wrong with the society of other races in direct opposition of your own society when those problems that you state are true of any existing society? Are you that blinded by faith that you don't see the same poverty and suffering on your own worlds that is plain for any common person travelling to them to witness or are you preaching this loudly in order todivert attention from it? We have no culture of drug addicted deviants running our Empire how dare you imply there is anything similar between the Gallente Federation and our holy Amarr Empire! The first Gallente Ambassador to the Empire had this to say about the Empire as a whole. While he didn't care for some aspects of our society he did pay respect saying "never underestimate the Amarr". In his biography I fail to see any mention of anything resembling the Crystal Avenue on Amarrian soil. Dam-Torsad Dam-Torsad - the Imperial City of the Amarr Empire - marked me. It marked me even though I consciously tried to fight its corrupted presence. It is built on memories, nightmares really, and you canÆt stop them from perverting your mind in the end. For fifty long years IÆve struggled to rid myself of those haunted memories of a human society turned sour and bitter - I may have escaped the oppressive walls of the city, but the vivid memories will always remain. Memories of a city more like a monument than a thriving metropolis; of people saturated with its sluggish nature, their minds weighted down with traditions and customs so strong, so dominant, that it was like their ancestors of thousand years ago were living their lives through them. I couldnÆt fail to notice - almost immediately - the injustice entrenched in the society. The Holders tread on the Commoners, which in turn tread on the slaves. Talent means nothing, people are judged solely by their social position. The only merits nurtured are backstabbing and back-nagging. The twisted old Holders are deeply envious of zealous young upstarts and find sick pleasure in squashing them. And yet the Commoners look with awe up to the Holders, craving their position and power, but bound still by tradition more sturdy than any iron shackle. Progress is an alien term to the Amarrians. ItÆs almost like this huge empire was built on pure coincidence and luck. But once you get to know their intricate system you get the feeling that theyÆre like this great big beast trudging heedlessly onwards, trampling any opposition. Their advancements is not by leaps and bounds, but rather through deliberate and articulate planning that can span decades, even centuries. Getting caught in the finely woven spider-webs of a Holder can trap more than just you - it can trap your children and your childrenÆs children - getting out is not a problem, itÆs getting out alive that's troublesome. My years in Dam-Torsad made me loath and despise the Amarrians, their society is in so many radical ways different from the Gallentean one. But I also learned never to underestimate the Amarrians. In their own way, theyÆre ruthlessly efficient and I canÆt but feel in awe of all their accomplishment through the ages. Yanou Lautere, First Gallente ambassador to the Amarrians. Excerpt from his autobiography Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.15 01:41:00 - [38] Quote: PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Souvera Corvus Gallente Universal Exports	Posted - 2007.11.15 05:34:00 - [39] I find it remarkable that the Ambassadors recollections of Dam-Torsad would be held up by the Archbishop as proof of cultural superiority. Whilst I may not share some of my more exuberant Gallente partners tastes, at least they have retained their ability to make joy in what can otherwise be termed a life 'Nasty, brutish and short' And indeed, for many in the Amarr blight that is exactly what we see. Life brought to a mockery of itself by the organised religion of a hateful, vengeful God. Religion that espouses conquest, slavery and intolerance is a pitiful thing and not consistent with the values of the Federation. Pray do not lecture the Federation on religious tolerance. Its collection of people's, faith's, cultures and customs have flourished, and whilst its approach to Federal issues is not all I would wish, it represents the least onerous government by far across Eden. It, at least, gives its citizens a semblance of choice. Slavery is no choice. The picture the Ambassador paints of Amarrian society, is not attractive. A decrepit and decaying society held together by fear and propelled by hatred is not one that falling through the *****s of the welfare system of the Federation would make seem any more compelling. I cannot fault the fact of your generosity or the fact that there are those that will benefit from your material largesse. I would suggest though that the subtext 'Bringing the Glory of God...',your God, is the main reason for your jaunt. It is that mission, the attempted perpetuation of your vicious religion through the misery and hatred of slavery that is to be objected to, and it is that which will see you come to an unfortunate end. This clone-life at least. The progress of the Federation has been far from smooth and there are parts of its cultural lfe which leave many of us cold. Fact remains that we choices. They may not be all we would wish but there they are. Too many of the people subject to the yoke of Amarrian slavery do not.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2007.11.15 08:00:00 - [40] Originally by: Archbishop I would never allege I am perfect. I will say with the guidance of God and daily prayers the odds of doing something false are greatly diminished. The holy purity of our Empire drives all Amarr citizens to do their best and sacrifice for the greater good. Our faith is our strength something you as a violence prone Gallente will never understand. Did... you just call my race violence-prone? After the Day of Darkness? After Starkmanir Prime? After Vak'Atioth? After countless orbital bombardments, and the forcible occupation of Providence? You are a hypocritical demagogue. Originally by: Archbishop It is not a matter of "they believe it" it is a matter of fact. The holy scriptures are very specific on this matter. We do our duty because God commands it. Your attempt to minimize us as some fanatic fringe have failed. Archbishop The Scriptures are provably false, and no-one outside of the Amarrian Empire (and yes, I include the Khanid and the Ammatar in that ugly little group) believes in them. You are no better than any other race, Archbishop, and I demand you recognise this to be so. ----- Mixed Metaphor is now recruiting! Contact me for details.
Conlin Gallente Yiotul Fighters Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.11.15 11:13:00 - [41] The only thing Archbishop is capable of recognising is his own self importance . When I heard of his little entourage heading to Gallente space I was annoyed , but it gladdens my heart to see gallente who are not easily fooled by his rantings and lies . I wanted to travel up to Gallente space and send him back in a clone vat , now ?, not the case at all . Now I hope he extends his visit in Gallente , he has been seen for what he really is , a charlatan and trickster . He looks down on all races and hides behind a dying religion that justifies slavery . I see nothing but suspicion and threats regarding his true intentions , the gallente are no fools and I will continue to fight all slavers till providence is free from its chains .
Mourn Navarre Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.11.15 14:33:00 - [42] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Navarre, I will bet you a considerable ammount of ISK that this statement you've made, while undeniably and objectively true, will ultimately fall on deaf ears. It looks like I win. Originally by: Archbishop We have no culture of drug addicted deviants running our Empire how dare you imply there is anything similar between the Gallente Federation and our holy Amarr Empire! Um, right. And that would explain how they have grown to such epic proportions instead of imploding from habitual drug use. How about you quietly tour the streets of the worlds in the Empire near the frontiers of lawless space to see for yourself which laws are bent or just flat out ignored before you get up on your pedestal and announce to the universe just how much better Amarr society is. Originally by: Archbishop It is not a matter of "they believe it" it is a matter of fact. The holy scriptures are very specific on this matter. And who exactly put pen to paper and wrote these 'facts'?
JGJones Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.11.15 14:44:00 - [43] Having watched this discussion...Archbishop you have a steep hill to climb with these...people. Despite that, it does me good to see that so many are willing to join the Amarr on their path to enlightment. I shall give you one million ISK to help with providing shelters and food for these people that those Gallente are so incapable of looking after. It' is just a drop in the ocean of work you are doing, but drop by drop, even the mightest ocean can get filled up. God be with you. JGJones ----------------------------------- Y Ddraig ddyry gychwyn
Conlin Gallente Yiotul Fighters Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.11.15 16:17:00 - [44] Originally by: JGJones Having watched this discussion...Archbishop you have a steep hill to climb with these...people. Despite that, it does me good to see that so many are willing to join the Amarr on their path to enlightment. I shall give you one million ISK to help with providing shelters and food for these people that those Gallente are so incapable of looking after. It' is just a drop in the ocean of work you are doing, but drop by drop, even the mightest ocean can get filled up. God be with you. JGJones Willing ? , where ?, a steep hill to climb and in the same breath you say "so many are willing !!" . Your either wearing the same blinkers as Archie or seriously deranged .
JGJones Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.11.15 16:55:00 - [45] Originally by: Conlin Willing ? , where ?, a steep hill to climb and in the same breath you say "so many are willing !!" . Your either wearing the same blinkers as Archie or seriously deranged . As have been posted by Archbishop, here are those willing people at only the first system that he visited. An oceon refers to the many more millions upon of millions of people in rest of the systems under Gallente control. I do hope this wasn't too difficult for you to understand. I am always willing to take in you if you wish to be enlightened in the way of glory that is Amarr. ----------------------------------- Y Ddraig ddyry gychwyn
Daelin Blackleaf Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.15 21:01:00 - [46] While I applaude your humanitarian efforts I find the fact that you brought illegal goods into Federation territory disgusting, to think I have just finished defending your rights in one channel and then come to this one to discover this. Protein delicacies have been shown to be highly detrimental and are known to be manufactured from ingredients that many people are not comfortable with. I was unaware that you were a supporter of cannibalism. Perhaps this was done in ignorance of the gravity your actions, but you were aware of our laws and those laws are there for a reason. I don't feel a major incident should be made of this if indeed it was a simple error, but perhaps you should consider offering an apology for breaking Federal law, poisoning Federal citizens, and promoting cannibalism. I heard you were a lawful preacher of the Amarrian faith Archbishop, not a smuggler or blood raider supporter. I would appreciate it, if your pride does not permit you to submit an apology for your actions, that you would at least give us an explanation of them. Is Gallentean law simply not worth following your eyes? -------- EVE Trinity: THE SKY IS FALLING!
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2007.11.15 21:32:00 - [47] Oho, protein delicacies? Breaking trade restrictions isn't exactly the most glamorous charge I can blow him up for... but, given the contentiousness of my other accusations, I guess that this one will have to do for now. ----- Mixed Metaphor is now recruiting! Contact me for details.
Conlin Gallente Yiotul Fighters Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.11.16 07:07:00 - [48] Originally by: JGJones Originally by: Conlin Willing ? , where ?, a steep hill to climb and in the same breath you say "so many are willing !!" . Your either wearing the same blinkers as Archie or seriously deranged . As have been posted by Archbishop, here are those willing people at only the first system that he visited. An oceon refers to the many more millions upon of millions of people in rest of the systems under Gallente control. I do hope this wasn't too difficult for you to understand. I am always willing to take in you if you wish to be enlightened in the way of glory that is Amarr. Oceans ?, yes right a handful , more spin I sense . For 2isk I,d give you a piece of my mind - and all yours .
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.16 12:31:00 - [49] Edited by: Archbishop on 16/11/2007 12:34:58 Quote: The Scriptures are provably false, and no-one outside of the Amarrian Empire (and yes, I include the Khanid and the Ammatar in that ugly little group) believes in them. You are no better than any other race, Archbishop, and I demand you recognise this to be so. If others outside the Empire are so ignorant they would ignore plain fact it is even more proof of the necessity that the Amarr help shepard them into the future and offer guidance. Quote: "I heard you were a lawful preacher of the Amarrian faith Archbishop, not a smuggler or blood raider supporter. I would appreciate it, if your pride does not permit you to submit an apology for your actions, that you would at least give us an explanation of them. Is Gallentean law simply not worth following your eyes?" I am humble and contrite before God. In this case I made a mistake listening to the Gallente guide who ushered me into the Federation while assuring me everything was satisfactory. I apologize for listening to his advice and likewise will go so far as apologizing to any Gallente who may be suffering mental anguish as a result of eating these protein delecacies then having to listen to claims they will fall ill and die when clearly they are still fine. As for the Gallente guide however.... Fortunately for him he had already been transferred back to Port Sanctuary about an hour earlier to arrange the next rescue mission. Once there he will be arrested and held for trial on charges of Entrapment and Subversion. I'd have him arrested now but his ship is on comms blackout enroute to the port. I am a humble man though and admit my mistake in listening to a Gallente. To prove my contrition I offer the following remedy: 1. I will order that protein delecacies never be served to any Gallente Initiate while in SPCS facilities. 2. I will establish with a donation of $1m isk the Gallente Youth Food Education Program to educate young Gallente Initiates on the importance of diet and nutrition. 3. I will pay the healthcare expenses of any of these survivors if they fall I'll (of course they're all looking fine and healthy now - no worse for a few delecacies). Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Daelin Blackleaf Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.16 17:59:00 - [50] I for one find your apology acceptable and both imagine and hope that your remedy will gain it some acceptance amongst the people of the Federation. Federates are used to citique Archbishop, they're one of the most self critical factions in the cluster since every citizen has the freedom to not only criticize the government openly, but can also play his part in changing that government via his vote. I imagine your not as unwelcome here as you may feel, as with anyone controversial you probably have a small following here. In any case I hope once the present troubles are resolved you will continue your visits, perhaps with a more competent guide. -------- EVE Trinity: THE SKY IS FALLING!
3ll3 Gallente Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.11.16 19:56:00 - [51] You by your own word broken the law of the federation by an act of smuggling, whether these rules are wrong or right is not the point as the point is you have broken the law, you have committed crimes against the Gallente race, when you enter Matari space and fight those in my alliance that is legal due to war deceleration but what you have done and clearly admitted to by your own words good sir is a criminal act. Though your intentions may have been good you have broken the law and I strongly advise you turn your self in, most will probably be a fine at best. Originally by: Archbishop 11/13/109 02:25 evetime I entered the Gallente Federation at a point near Oursulaert and waltzed past Gallente Police ships with my load of rescue supplies which included protein delicacies which the Federation has apparently outlawed. By the time I had left my first station I had handed them all out the starving masses were so many. Now Mr PiF did warn you of infringing the Federal Laws even tried to help by offering to send you the law mandates, you have no excuse not even to say you did it in the name of your faith for you bring shame to it by breaking the laws of another culture. Originally by: PiF The federal space is free for all travelers, even for those who are in a crusade. Thus you are welcomed in the Federation, M. Archibishop. A TAKAGI Corp fleet will be dispatched in order to insure your safety and to show you how welcoming our Federation can be. Past slave conflicts shall not interfere with your journey in the Federation and we'll make sure you'll be able to see with your eyes what our civilisation is about. Of course a copy of the Federal Code will be downloaded to you via SecureAccess because you may know that several laws changes between the Amarr Empire and the gallente Federation. We wouldn't want Federal authorities to abduct you and send your for trial because of a simple misunderstanding of the law. Given that your legal staff will quickly advise you about what's possible and what is not possible to do in Federal space, we'll assume that you will be then fully aware that, for example, abducting gallente citizens, whatever their condition is, is illegal too. You will understand that the TAKAGI Corp fleet will enforce Federal Laws. The federation may be libral and open minded but it does not tollerate people abusing their trust and good faith which you GOOD SIR Have done!
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2007.11.16 20:37:00 - [52] 3ll3, 3ll3, 3ll3. So much to learn. There is absolutely nothing "good" about that "sir", trust me on that one. ----- Mixed Metaphor is now recruiting! Contact me for details.
Becq Starforged Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.11.16 22:16:00 - [53] Edited by: Becq Starforged on 16/11/2007 22:17:32 Originally by: "Daelin Blackleaf" I heard you were a lawful preacher of the Amarrian faith Archbishop, not a smuggler or blood raider supporter. I would appreciate it, if your pride does not permit you to submit an apology for your actions, that you would at least give us an explanation of them. Is Gallentean law simply not worth following your eyes? While I generally offer the Gallente people nothing but the respect they've earned by their friendship to my people ... I must say I'm utterly amazed at this conversation. Are you truly setting aside "that whole slavery thing" as insignificant next to the horrors of protein delicacy import?! I don't know how to react... I mean, of all the atrocities you could heap at Archbishop's feat -- including his latest scheme to trick Gallente citizens into selling themselves into slavery in exchange for 'humanitarian supplies' -- what possessed you to pick sidestepping import restrictions? -- Becq Starforged proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services At Starforge Industries, the world of tomorrow is being blown apart today!
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.17 00:11:00 - [54] I have made a mistake and made my gesture of apology. The Intaki who said I should is satisfied. Confession is good for the soul and I confess the error of my ways in believing the Gallente guide who assured me our cargo was legal. Rest assured I would not intentionally break more Gallente laws and I will focus instead of bringing those desperate people to the safety of the SPCS versus feeding them in Gallente space. As for the terrorists who attack innocent Amarrians criticizing me I find that obscenly hypocritical. Notice now how they turn on their Gallente "friends" as well. But back to the SPCS. This little incident has given me an idea. Why should we feed the Gallente in the Gallente stations? I mean the poverty is still around them and they are still filthy and despaired. When we leave it is the same way again. But what if we had a different methodology? Yes a new focus - we have food - but only on the SPCS station. We can run Bestowers to Gallente space to offer free transportation and we can feed as many as we can. As I said protein delecacies would be outlawed from the SPCS menu so these Gallente could come, eat a good meal and listen to a sermon, and consider their future in the comfortable and safe environment of Port Sanctuary. An excellent initiative! I can not thank those who criticized my error of brining protein delecacies into the Federation enough. This new "Operation" shall be called "Food Shelf" and will be dedicated to you. God Bless! Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Conlin Gallente Yiotul Fighters Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.11.17 09:02:00 - [55] Originally by: Archbishop I have made a mistake and made my gesture of apology. The Intaki who said I should is satisfied. Confession is good for the soul and I confess the error of my ways in believing the Gallente guide who assured me our cargo was legal. Rest assured I would not intentionally break more Gallente laws and I will focus instead of bringing those desperate people to the safety of the SPCS versus feeding them in Gallente space. As for the terrorists who attack innocent Amarrians criticizing me I find that obscenly hypocritical. Notice now how they turn on their Gallente "friends" as well. But back to the SPCS. This little incident has given me an idea. Why should we feed the Gallente in the Gallente stations? I mean the poverty is still around them and they are still filthy and despaired. When we leave it is the same way again. But what if we had a different methodology? Yes a new focus - we have food - but only on the SPCS station. We can run Bestowers to Gallente space to offer free transportation and we can feed as many as we can. As I said protein delecacies would be outlawed from the SPCS menu so these Gallente could come, eat a good meal and listen to a sermon, and consider their future in the comfortable and safe environment of Port Sanctuary. An excellent initiative! I can not thank those who criticized my error of brining protein delecacies into the Federation enough. This new "Operation" shall be called "Food Shelf" and will be dedicated to you. God Bless! Archbishop This Intaki isnt satisfied and never will be till you renounce slavery .
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2007.11.17 11:01:00 - [56] Savour this moment, Archbishop, for it may never, ever come again: Thank you for your apology. It's a start. Now, if you want to convince me of the sincerity of that apology, leave Federation space and stop slandering the way the Federation treats Federal citizens (the overwhelming majority of whom do not live in abject squalor, especially on orbital stations, despite what you would have people believe). If the SPCS is truly commited to the prevention of cruelty to slaves, it will release every last one of them, because slavery in itself is a cruelty. ----- Mixed Metaphor is now recruiting! Contact me for details.
Tablaren Kingdom of Kador Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.17 12:04:00 - [57] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris The Scriptures are provably false, and no-one outside of the Amarrian Empire (and yes, I include the Khanid and the Ammatar in that ugly little group) believes in them. You are no better than any other race, Archbishop, and I demand you recognise this to be so. I and those who serve under and with myself believe in the scriptures. So if you would like to word this correctly. "No one who doesn't believe in the scriptures believes in the scriptures. Also I demand that you realize that you are wrong for believing a religion which is practiced in all of the major nations of the Cluster and by nearly a third of the clusters inhabitants. Which is quite clearly evil as you can see by the passages which preach to provide for those who are less fortunate. The nerve of you coming into the free federation and giving the homeless food as well as forcing the choice to comeback in servitude if they would like too is despicable." Have I about summed it up?
Daelin Blackleaf Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.17 13:14:00 - [58] Originally by: Becq Starforged While I generally offer the Gallente people nothing but the respect they've earned by their friendship to my people ... I must say I'm utterly amazed at this conversation. Are you truly setting aside "that whole slavery thing" as insignificant next to the horrors of protein delicacy import?! Yes. What he does in the Empire is a matter of Imperial law. Until the Minmatar government sees fit to take a firm stance against slavery how can you expect others to. It is not in the interests of the Federation to bicker with the Amarr over such things, it is legal there, and illegal here, we have and do offer our support, but even when the Amarr invaded the Federation was not prepared to enter a potentially disastrous war over it. The Federation looks after it's own people first and foremost and I follow it's lead. Since your government refuses to do likewise I am not surprised immigration from the Republic to the Federation is so high. Do you expect the entire cluster to fight your little war for you on a moral standpoint and ignore the needs of their own peoples? I don't agree with slavery at all, neither does the Federal government. However we both have our reasons to avoid striking at the largest Empire in new eden. The Amarr have come a long way in recent years and Fed-State relations are also faring well. If it came to war, if we were to stand up for your people as the Republic will not, that progress would be lost, and a lot of Federal blood would be spilled. I doubt the Federation could stand up to the combined might of two other empires alone and I don't think they should just to feel a little more noble. As for Gallente citizens selling themselves into slavery, it may shock you but we take our freedom very seriously and that includes the freedom to give up freedom. If that is what they wanted it was their right to do so. There is a trickle of emigration from Federal to Imperial territories, many who take up the faith often truly believe slavery is the only way they can save their souls. It is not the job of myself or the government here to stop people from making, what we consider to be, bad decisions. In short until such time as both the Republic and Federation are willing to stand together for this cause I'm not going to blow hot air over it. I'll stick to exactly what is and isn't legal. Justice is not defined by the individual. -------- EVE Trinity: THE SKY IS FALLING!
Daelin Blackleaf Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.17 13:23:00 - [59] Originally by: Archbishop An excellent initiative! I can not thank those who criticized my error of brining protein delecacies into the Federation enough. This new "Operation" shall be called "Food Shelf" and will be dedicated to you. I would rather you didn't. While I respect the peoples freedom to make their own choices I do not support you using your position as a pod-pilot to influence those choices. As yet such actions are not against the law, but it sets a dangerous precedent. -------- EVE Trinity: THE SKY IS FALLING!
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.18 04:36:00 - [60] Edited by: Archbishop on 18/11/2007 04:36:32 My journey into the Federation of Sin is almost over for this week. At every station we've managed to find the forgotten, the desperate and those in despair. The Gallente Federation portrays itself as a beacon of freedom and opportunity but the reality is indeed much different. We have taken aboard over 4,000 survivors this journey and all have signed the Contract of Enlightnment and wish to travel to Port Sanctuary where they will learn skills and the reality of God. Their futures are bright as Gallente Initiates and gives me hope our efforts will not be in vain. SURVIVORS CROWD THE HOLD OF THE SPCS RESCUE BESTOWER By this time tomorrow night we will have returned to Port Sanctuary, the grand opening complete and these Gallente forgotten will be sound asleep dreaming of a new life in the Empire of God. I know they will sleep well. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2007.11.18 08:19:00 - [61] Oh trust me, Archbishop. The only place those people are going is back to their families. I don't know what false promises you've made to them or their loved ones, but trust me, you are not leaving Federation space with Federal citizens. Allow me to make this abundantly clear: I will allow you out of Federation space unharmed, even despite the war declaration if you have a cargo bay empty of Federal citizens. If you do not, I will be forced to detain you until you surrender them. I wouldn't want this to turn ugly. I think, on reflection, you would find that you don't, either. ----- Mixed Metaphor is now recruiting! Contact me for details.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2007.11.18 09:19:00 - [62] Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 18/11/2007 09:22:47 Originally by: Archbishop SURVIVORS CROWD THE HOLD OF THE SPCS RESCUE BESTOWER Interesting, the contents of this picture - the background is a Caldari station, and the region is displayed as "Th" - the only regions that bear that name are The Forge, The Citadel and The Bleak Lands. Further inspection yields the constellation name fragment "Ca", and the system name "Ha". With a little work, I've discovered where you're obtaining slaves - Hatakani, Caldari Border Zone, in the Citadel. Proof, if proof were needed, that even the Caldari cannot trust the Amarrians - they are casing for slaves inside their own allies' borders, and the Caldari I think have even stricter laws about this sort of thing than the Federation does. ----- Mixed Metaphor is now recruiting! Contact me for details.
Becq Starforged Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.11.18 10:33:00 - [63] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Proof, if proof were needed, that even the Caldari cannot trust the Amarrians - they are casing for slaves inside their own allies' borders, and the Caldari I think have even stricter laws about this sort of thing than the Federation does. ... or that the Caldari are accomplices in this. -- Becq Starforged proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services At Starforge Industries, the world of tomorrow is being blown apart today!
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.18 13:07:00 - [64] Quote: Interesting, the contents of this picture - the background is a Caldari station, and the region is displayed as "Th" - the only regions that bear that name are The Forge, The Citadel and The Bleak Lands. Further inspection yields the constellation name fragment "Ca", and the system name "Ha". With a little work, I've discovered where you're obtaining slaves - Hatakani, Caldari Border Zone, in the Citadel. Proof, if proof were needed, that even the Caldari cannot trust the Amarrians - they are casing for slaves inside their own allies' borders, and the Caldari I think have even stricter laws about this sort of thing than the Federation does. ----- Mixed Metaphor is now recruiting! Contact me for details. Actually my paranoid Gallente all you have done is discover that fact that I am already enroute to Port Sanctuary and am already safely out of the Gallente Federation. You've determined my apparent route but that is all you have determined. As for the locations after paying the exit fees for these poor refugee survivors yesterday.... REFUGEE SURVIVOR STATION EXIT FEE RECEIPTS .... you can see all were removed from Gallente stations deep within Gallente space. I did see several Electus Matari ships in the area but no Mixed Metaphor ships during my travels. What these Minmatar terrorists were doing there is farily obvious and I will say the fact they would stalk me and plan to attack my ship with Gallente race passengers proves they are no friend of the Gallente or anyone else. Rest assured these soon to be Gallente Initiates have signed the Contract of Enlightenment and are willing to enter a new life of hope and opportunity. Praise be to God and His Empire! Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.18 13:56:00 - [65] Edited by: Archbishop on 18/11/2007 13:58:51 Admirals Personal Log Despite threats, stalking and near attacks I have arrived at the Port Sanctuary home system. All is well and I was able to do a brief flyby of the facility. Needless to say it is a great day for those who work toward helping the innocent find God and develop themselves into proper servants of faith. The future Gallente Initiates aboard were in awe as they looked at the facility through the viewports of the SPCS rescue ship. It was wonderful to see their eyes light up with the realization they were about to enter a whole new life. SPCS RESCUE III COMPLETES BRIEF FLYBY OF PORT SANCTUARY COMPLEX Soon we will begin the work of helping these poor Gallente find a way toward God and will allow them to work in service to better themselves. This initiative, in which the Gallente are voluntarily here, truly is unique. I have high hopes. I must retire for a few hours to resolve a family matter via shuttle. I will return shortly for the Grand Opening. End Log. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
marie claude	Posted - 2007.11.19 04:44:00 - [66] being born in Oursalaert i take great offence to the bishops out and out lie about the conditions there. i have spent my carrer hunting the scum of gallente space such as angels and serpents.never before have i crosseed the amarr navy in the name of the fragile peace between us. but i think i may have to make an exception in this case. i think i may board my enyo and go seek his councile in his shuttle.
Daelin Blackleaf Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.21 20:07:00 - [67] Edited by: Daelin Blackleaf on 21/11/2007 20:08:52 If one were so inclined they could apply similar methods and buy up slaves in Empire space to simply release them. Of course then their souls would never be enlightened but I'm sure the Amarrians are good with that so long as they get paid, otherwise they wouldn't permit their sale on the open market. On the other hand a few thousand people really aren't worth the bother either way to most of us. Some of us kill hundreds of thousands of people a day, some in the process save millions. What Archbishop is doing is, to be perfectly honest, hardly worthy of note compared to the Angel, Sansha, and Blooder raiders who forcibly take millions of people daily to be subject to a far worse fate than living in the Amarr empire after the moral reforms. -------- EVE Trinity: THE SKY IS FALLING!
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.22 02:15:00 - [68] Quote: If one were so inclined they could apply similar methods and buy up slaves in Empire space to simply release them. Yes I'm aware there are slaves who have reached Enlightenment for sale in Amarrian systems. Please feel free to bring them back to your homeworld where they can preach the benefits of the Amarr way of life and tell of our virtuousity. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS
Daelin Blackleaf Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.22 09:30:00 - [69] It is interesting that their enlightenment, much like their legality, seems to extend no further than your borders Archbishop. -------- EVE Trinity: THE SKY IS FALLING!
Arron S Gallente Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.11.22 11:40:00 - [70] Edited by: Arron S on 22/11/2007 11:41:30 What about the poor in the Amarr empire? I wonder how many of those Refugees are going to end up being slaves for PIE and CVA signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link to the image URL) - Jacques([email protected])
Daelin Blackleaf Aliastra	Posted - 2007.11.22 18:15:00 - [71] I'm sure the Nation would be rather interested in making a few purchases. Then these enlightened slaves and paupers can try preaching the benefits of the Amarr way of life in Stain. As I said Archbishop, this is a dangerous precedent your setting here. -------- EVE Trinity: THE SKY IS FALLING!

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