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Zavernus Hamarabi
Caldari
High4Life
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.13 11:04:00 -
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Much better warp graphics (think wide lens, gamma flood, 'optical reverb')
Much better planet graphics (the current ones look about 15 years old, just colored blobs)
Much better backgrounds (if homeworld could do it so could eve)
Much better jump gate effects (cloaking and shooting a big laser is kinda lame imo)
I know we all want to see the sexy ships and all that jazz, but whats the point of flying a sexy ship through a coloring book? I'd much rather see everything else BUT the ships get overhauled first.
How many other games have you noted "well the atmosphere, effects, and backgrounds are utter crap, but the characters are really well modeled!"
Maybe it's easier to remodel and reskin current ships, but the key to any immersive game is atmosphere atmosphere atmosphere.
CCP, a request:
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Thank you,
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Plave Okice
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.13 11:05:00 -
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Darker backgrounds, much, much darker.
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Zavernus Hamarabi
Caldari
High4Life
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.13 11:07:00 -
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I agree.
I'd kill babies to have system wide dynamic lighting.
When you're at pluto's orbit (or further) the whole system shouldnt be flood lit.
Dynamic system lighting would add such a huge level to game play, it'd actually bring in the environment more than "crap this is a long warp"
CCP, a request:
Remove rigs
Thank you,
Zav |
Sleepkevert
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.13 11:16:00 -
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They are implementing stuff like HDR and self shadowing... As for the effects. I don't think they are overhauling those yet... So we have to wait 
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar
Vengeance 8 Interceptors
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Posted - 2007.11.13 11:28:00 -
[5]
Shield impacts,
Armor damage, blacking, burn marks that kind of thing
Visible missile tubes
Gun firing arcs
Working defender missiles
List goes on.
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Yon89
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Posted - 2007.11.13 11:38:00 -
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agreed shield impacts would be sweet
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Gner Dechast
Gallente
Flashman Services
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Posted - 2007.11.13 11:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Plave Okice
Darker backgrounds, much, much darker.
I would prefer even darker. Now it's like a Mardi Gras everywhere, cheery, happy, festive and bright. Cosmic background radiation levels must be nuts...
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Vikotnik
Amarr
OP NEMESIS
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Posted - 2007.11.13 11:48:00 -
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I'd like to see darker backdrops too. The bright and colourful ones are wonderful, but there are too many. It would be nice to have some black!
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Malcanis
High4Life
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.13 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Plave Okice
Darker backgrounds, much, much darker.
This. EvE hurts my eyes sometimes. I want BLACK space pls.
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Ishina Fel
Caldari
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.11.13 14:09:00 -
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At fanfest, it was stated repeatedly that the full graphics update is split over multiple expansions. The coming expansion brings us high-polygon models, high-resolution textures, and the shader model 3 rendering base (with all its perks, like HDR).
A coming expansion will update all the effects (ship engines, turret fire, explosions, backgrounds etc).
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Thorek Ironbrow
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Posted - 2007.11.13 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Thorek Ironbrow on 13/11/2007 14:28:49
What I don't like is...
If you're in warp, try moving the camera to the side of your ship, and scrolling out. Note how your ship is no longer in the warp tunnel? WTF!
It's the same with most things in EvE. The back drop, I was quite unhappy, because I never noticed it, untill a friend said "Zoom in and out while looking at the back drop".
I cried.
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Simon Saiz
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Posted - 2007.11.14 02:08:00 -
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To: Postal
What the heck dude, gun firing arcs? there's no gravity in space lol
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Kiviar
Caldari
Vice-Presidential Action Rangers
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Posted - 2007.11.14 02:36:00 -
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Edited by: Kiviar on 14/11/2007 02:37:57
I have to say, one thing I disliked about homeworld was the galaxy spanning space wrecks you constantly fought around. I just couldnt understand why I had to mine asteroids when there were star sized hunks of steel floating around.
Also, there is gravity in space, just not in the ether that eve takes place in.
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Oniko Sengir
Coreli Corporation
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Posted - 2007.11.14 02:36:00 -
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Yeah, they should shelf the new ship models they've already done and redo backgrounds and effects first.
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SilentBladez
Imperial Knights
CODE RED ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2007.11.14 02:49:00 -
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Edited by: SilentBladez on 14/11/2007 02:49:31
Edited by: SilentBladez on 14/11/2007 02:48:59
I'd love to see Pitch black space, where only your ship lights and nothing else. Scanners don't pick up anyone so attacks on people would be easy, and people would not venture into these zones. |
Rhaegor Stormborn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2007.11.14 02:52:00 -
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Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 14/11/2007 02:52:15
Weapons hitting shields effect would be nice, and a much much better totally revamped UI. The changes coming are a start, but its really still just a bad UI.
Rhaegor Stormborn
Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Plutonian
Plutonian Shore
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Posted - 2007.11.14 03:22:00 -
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I think darker nebula backgrounds would add greatly to immersion and a more 'brooding' mood.
A station should be an island of civilization amid a sea of darkness... visible only by its multitude of lights. Only when you get close should you see the structure heave itself from the gloom.
The glow of lasers and missile detonations stand out so much better against dark backgrounds.
Hey... do this: Keep the nebula backgrounds in Empire bright and cheery, but make low-sec and 0.0 really dark. That'd get more people out of Empire. 
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Daelorn
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.14 03:32:00 -
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Trinity is for models only. There will be a future patch that does effects.
Sad we'll have nice models with old effects
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Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This
Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.11.14 03:40:00 -
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I hope CCP really tones down the nebulae's brightness when they release the 2nd graphics update. I am tired of having my eyes hurt by the Sun or some of the backgounds. You'd think our camera drones would have an automatic brightness filter, tbh.
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Oedus Caro
Caldari
Cross Roads
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Posted - 2007.11.14 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: Daelorn
Trinity is for models only. There will be a future patch that does effects.
Sad we'll have nice models with old effects
Hey, at least you get the new models. 
Oedus Caro pats his poor old laptop GPU.
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Caine Azuris
Gallente
Killson Corp
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.14 05:11:00 -
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Yeah I didnt know trinity wasent the only graphics update. Now that I know that I am a little releaved becuase eve has become really outdated GFX wise.
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Mavrix Able
Black Avatar
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Posted - 2007.11.14 07:41:00 -
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Another neat detail was if the guns would actually miss when they miss. As it is now your ship takes a hit and only the text tells it was a miss. I remember my first days in EVE, speed and distance taking the rats I was scared ****less when I saw my ship light up with enemy fire, took me a few seconds to read that I wasn't getting hit.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.11.14 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: Simon Saiz
To: Postal
What the heck dude, gun firing arcs? there's no gravity in space lol
And there is a lot less friction than EVE has also... but then, that'd be boosting nano ships if acceleration/deceleration worked like it does in space
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Daelorn
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.14 07:58:00 -
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Edited by: Daelorn on 14/11/2007 08:00:47
Originally by: Oedus Caro
Originally by: Daelorn
Trinity is for models only. There will be a future patch that does effects.
Sad we'll have nice models with old effects
Hey, at least you get the new models.
Oedus Caro pats his poor old laptop GPU.
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Rhuyo
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Posted - 2007.11.14 08:27:00 -
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I think that the new Trinity will also have new planet graphics would be kinda stupid if it didn't ( I could be wrong tho)
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Arana Tellen
Gallente
The Blackguard Wolves
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.11.14 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Friendly
I hope CCP really tones down the nebulae's brightness when they release the 2nd graphics update. I am tired of having my eyes hurt by the Sun or some of the backgounds. You'd think our camera drones would have an automatic brightness filter, tbh.
Your monitor is set to an unhealthy brightness, turn it down a notch or two.
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Arekhon
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.11.14 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Zavernus Hamarabi
I agree.
I'd kill babies to have system wide dynamic lighting.
When you're at pluto's orbit (or further) the whole system shouldnt be flood lit.
Dynamic system lighting would add such a huge level to game play, it'd actually bring in the environment more than "crap this is a long warp"
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Zavernus Hamarabi
Caldari
High4Life
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.14 10:17:00 -
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Edited by: Zavernus Hamarabi on 14/11/2007 10:24:30
Originally by: Oniko Sengir
Yeah, they should shelf the new ship models they've already done and redo backgrounds and effects first.
Yes, they should, but isn't that what i posted, but with eyes rolling?
Considering ccp's valve like development schedule, i'd much rather have somewhat cruddy looking ships flying around in absolutely stunning environments than stunning ships flying around Super Mario Brothers maps.
And on that note, i'd MUCH rather see the rest of eve fleshed out and fixed before we get kickass new polygons. Just a few things:
Smuggling, smuggling bonuses, drugs, hookers, etc just seem to be missing pieces floating around in the void
Ship logs, they pop up very frequently but i've yet to see one that actually works correctly
Exploration sites, this one is a bit confusing. It's a brand new feature that right out of the box doesnt work right half the time
Its kinda like bulding an addition to a house with a leaky roof. Sure its not as sexy as new polygons, but at least it makes it seem more like a finished game than a working prototype
CCP, a request:
Remove rigs
Thank you,
Zav |
Rhuyo
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Posted - 2007.11.14 11:00:00 -
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I think Gameplay and graphics are to different things, Unless the modelers work on gameplay aswell?
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Asilah Na'kani
Gallente
Elemental Fusion
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Posted - 2007.11.14 11:17:00 -
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Will HDR lightning be implemented in the upcoming expansion (trinity)?
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Caine Azuris
Gallente
Killson Corp
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.15 02:26:00 -
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I believe so yes
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Dzajic
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.11.15 03:24:00 -
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Id to really like to see some "normal" backgrounds. As its now, its seems every system in EVE is inside a supernova remenant nebula. Change it all. Most systems will have black sky with stars, with EVE galaxy equivalent of Milky Way visible across the sky.
As we move around we could see and approach and enter nebula or star clusters. To explain that. First, remember Homeworld, from the first mission you could see tiny red nebula on the galactic background, as game progresses it becomes closer and larger in the sky, ending with missions inside nebula, with entire sky becoming colored.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.11.15 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: Simon Saiz
To: Postal
What the heck dude, gun firing arcs? there's no gravity in space lol
And there is a lot less friction than EVE has also... but then, that'd be boosting nano ships if acceleration/deceleration worked like it does in space
yea pretty much. and yes there is gravity in space, although it shouldn't be in strong enough for guns to fire in arcs. unless you are fighting really close to a very big object, and in that case your ship is probably about to crash into said object
mmmmm the black darkness of space, I cant wait. frozen corpses will really be frozen
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2007.11.15 05:13:00 -
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My spewage change that they'll never make would be guns/tubes that would fit every ships motif.
425's would look different on the Dominix, Mega, Rohk, or Geddon. Each matching the 'motif' of the ships its on...except the geddon, it'd just be plain 425.
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Posted - 2007.11.15 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: Simon Saiz
To: Postal
What the heck dude, gun firing arcs? there's no gravity in space lol
Yes there in fact is. But gun firing arcs would be a little extreme however it would happen near warp gates and planets oh and the sun and anything with a massive gravity. (Due to warp gates IMMENSE gravitational pull lol you probably wouldn't be able to fire a gun in that thing it'd probably suck the ships themselves into it.) |
Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.11.15 05:23:00 -
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Guys guys guys, calm down.
Trinity update includes:
-Dx9 graphics engine update, with all the bells and whistles like AA/AF/HDR
-New ship models
-New station models
-New stargate models
Thats it for now. CCP have mentioned that next on the list are the rest, like:
-New/updated effects
-New/updated objects
-New/updated "everything else".
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
Red Eye .Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.15 06:07:00 -
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Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
My spewage change that they'll never make would be guns/tubes that would fit every ships motif.
WTF does "My spewage change" mean? 
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Astorothe
Aperture Science Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.15 06:31:00 -
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Darker space. Much, much darker.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.11.15 06:54:00 -
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'Rather'? Rather!!? They've been working two years on re-vamping the ships, you'll take it and you'll like it!
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Zavernus Hamarabi
Caldari
High4Life
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.15 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
'Rather'? Rather!!? They've been working two years on re-vamping the ships, you'll take it and you'll like it!
I'd like to exchange my revamped ships for the above suggestions please.
Thanks!
CCP, a request:
Remove rigs
Thank you,
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar
Vengeance 8 Interceptors
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Posted - 2007.11.15 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: Simon Saiz
To: Postal
What the heck dude, gun firing arcs? there's no gravity in space lol
Should have said, Arc's of fire for your own guns,
Ever play any kind of starfleet command game ? moving your ships was important.
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Tareen Kashaar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.11.15 07:51:00 -
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I'm loving what's coming, but I absolutely sign the OP.
Without new backgrounds and everything, it'll just feel... incomplete. You could also say halfassed.
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Yakabow
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Posted - 2007.11.15 08:29:00 -
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Edited by: Yakabow on 15/11/2007 08:31:05
Edited by: Yakabow on 15/11/2007 08:30:01
/signed
I'm truly looking forward to the updates in Trinity, but our celestial body/background is sure lacking.
Some screenshots that are more in line with what I hope EVE will look like at some point:
http://www.egosoft.com/games/x3/screenshots/x3_screen_245.jpg
http://www.egosoft.com/games/x3/screenshots/x3_screen_235.jpg
http://www.egosoft.com/games/x3/screenshots/x3_screen_002.jpg
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2007.11.15 09:32:00 -
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i would love to have more realistic backgrounds meaning that they are fitted to the location of the system on the universe map right now we have for example blue background 1 for jita and many other systems that are much further away that just doesnt feel right to me
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2007.11.15 09:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zavernus Hamarabi
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
'Rather'? Rather!!? They've been working two years on re-vamping the ships, you'll take it and you'll like it!
I'd like to exchange my revamped ships for the above suggestions please.
Thanks!
Too late to be asking that now, the time has already been spent in ship models. CCP doesn't have a time machine so they can go back and do your suggestions instead.
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AntonioBanderas
Empirius Enigmus Navy
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.15 09:54:00 -
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we sooo need darker backgrounds....
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.11.15 09:55:00 -
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I'm sure they'll work on the backdrop next. It'd be nice to see continents on habitable systems. Not sure where EVE stands on terraforming but I'm guessing it's done to some extent. Also storms moving across the surface of various planets, like the eye of Jupiter.
As for space and nebulas in every system, blacken some out and make nebulas the same shade for the whole constellation or however far they stretch, it gives a less random feeling and allow for people to guess where something is if presented with a screenshot with the names withheld, possibly as a mission clue or during the staging of an event...
With the nebulas reflecting in the new shine of the ships I do like them to stick around in a good few system, just not every system.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Posted - 2007.11.15 09:58:00 -
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A UI that doesn't suck.
More keyboard shortcuts.
Less right-clicking.
F1-F8 in one key.
Drone attack in one key.
An interface that doesn't look like a pile of crap.
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Cipher7
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Posted - 2007.11.15 10:02:00 -
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And yes a darker background.
Whats with all the bright lights.
Same with stations.
Why is the rest of the station interior dark, except for the bloody lights that poke your eye out.
Outpost interiors are lame. Just a giant cavern with 3 lights blinding you.
Make it more even, less dramatic difference, not dark/light but more even tone.
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.11.15 10:32:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 15/11/2007 10:32:52
Originally by: Dzajic
Id to really like to see some "normal" backgrounds. As its now, its seems every system in EVE is inside a supernova remenant nebula. Change it all. Most systems will have black sky with stars, with EVE galaxy equivalent of Milky Way visible across the sky.
As we move around we could see and approach and enter nebula or star clusters. To explain that. First, remember Homeworld, from the first mission you could see tiny red nebula on the galactic background, as game progresses it becomes closer and larger in the sky, ending with missions inside nebula, with entire sky becoming colored.
Actually the backgrounds are bright to make it easier to see the objects in space . I hope they improve the lightning and backgrounds, but they shouldn't do it in a way that you need to play EVE in a dark room to see what's going on.
I've played Thief - The dark project ... all parts, but I remember that I had to play the 1st part in the late evening and during the nights and pump up the gamma and brightness to see anything at some hours, because I couldn't make my room completely dark.
Would be a bit too much, if it was that way in EVE, because EVE isn't only for gaming freaks. They need to make compromises there.
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fuze
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Posted - 2007.11.15 10:50:00 -
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What if they would incorperate vids of the real ships out there in gameplay. That would be awesome!
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Sleepkevert
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.15 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
'Rather'? Rather!!? They've been working two years on re-vamping the ships, you'll take it and you'll like it!
Wrong, they spend two years re-vamping the ships, AND building a graphics engine from scrap up.
Originally by: Cipher7
A UI that doesn't suck.
/me points to Trinity, well, atleast it's an improvement.
Originally by: Cipher7
More keyboard shortcuts.
Check the escape menu, loads of them that you can define.
Originally by: Cipher7
Less right-clicking.
Right clicking is EVE, don't like it? Why are you still playing then?
Originally by: Cipher7
F1-F8 in one key.
Get a macro, as long as you are pushing the button and are phisicly behind the keyboard while it executes, i guess you'r all right.
Originally by: Cipher7
Drone attack in one key.
Trinty 
Originally by: Cipher7
An interface that doesn't look like a pile of crap.
If you want bright colors and blinding color combinations, i suggest you play with the UI settings in the ESC menu or try another game.
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Posted - 2007.11.15 11:19:00 -
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New ships models are nice an all, but I'd really hope to see CCP redo the backgrounds soon (very soon, rather than CCP soon). With all these colors and stuff it's looks like Hello Kitty in space, and we're supposed to believe it's a harsh world out there.
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Jakus Cemendur
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.11.15 11:23:00 -
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Given the fact that all of EVE i've seen has bright colourful backgrounds i'm going to take a wild guess and say the devs wanted it that way.
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Carl Whitewood
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Posted - 2007.11.15 11:23:00 -
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Edited by: Carl Whitewood on 15/11/2007 11:23:46
Yes - give us also MUCH darker backgrounds!
Actually, remove them from most systems, and those systems that are supposed to be inside a nebulae, tone it down a alot.
If the art department of CCP has some kind of collective groin tickling fetish about candy backgrounds, the I would atleast want to see client side option not to render them in my computer 
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Jacques Bontecou
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Posted - 2007.11.15 11:30:00 -
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Hear shadows are coming to Eve, atlast. I hope this means that there will be a dark side of a moon and a planet. Pretty sure there aren't those (or maybe it's due to the ever-present nebula illumination?).
Yea, and please, remove or atleast darken the backgrounds in Eve. That'd be great!
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Iyanah
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2007.11.15 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Plave Okice
Darker backgrounds, much, much darker.
some darker backgrounds, but with more ambient light, perhaps, since in some systems minmatar ships are almost completely invisible, and all that lovely detailing they're adding will never be seen :(
of course, effects are being worked on, they're not comming out right aways since they've been working on the new ships, stations and objects.
someone also mentioned multiple hit locations. this could be as simple as creating four or five "nodes" on a ship, and the impact just goes to one of them at random - much easier than randomly hitting any point on the ship, especially on large ships.
missiles launching from their launchers is also linked to this, i guess. that'd be nice, too (a drake firing a volley of HM's from it's many launchers would look cool).
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