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Xio2
F4LLEN 4RMY
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Posted - 2007.11.13 17:26:00 -
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So with skills maxed and t2 sentries theoretically a dominix with this setup:
hi:
6 x 350mm t2 railguns
med:
3 x t2 sensor boosters
1 x t2 100mn microwarpdrive
1 x t2 tracking computer
low:
1 x t2 signal amplifier
2 x t2 magnetic field stabilizers
1 x t2 damage control
1 x t2 1600mm reinforced steel plate
1 x t2 800mm reinforced steel plate
1 x t2 reactor control
rigs:
1 x sentry damage rig
2 x drone scope rig
long range - spike ammo and t2 warden drones
drones hit for full dmg out to about 97 km, guns about 112 km
618 dps
short range - javelin ammo and t2 garde drones
drones hit for full dmg out to about 37 km, guns only about 16 km
927 dps
sounds like a very nifty cheap midrange sniper to me
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Arcord
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Posted - 2007.11.13 18:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Xio2
So with skills maxed and t2 sentries theoretically a dominix with this setup:
hi:
6 x 350mm t2 railguns
med:
3 x t2 sensor boosters
1 x t2 100mn microwarpdrive
1 x t2 tracking computer
low:
1 x t2 signal amplifier
2 x t2 magnetic field stabilizers
1 x t2 damage control
1 x t2 1600mm reinforced steel plate
1 x t2 800mm reinforced steel plate
1 x t2 reactor control
rigs:
1 x sentry damage rig
2 x drone scope rig
long range - spike ammo and t2 warden drones
drones hit for full dmg out to about 97 km, guns about 112 km
618 dps
short range - javelin ammo and t2 garde drones
drones hit for full dmg out to about 37 km, guns only about 16 km
927 dps
sounds like a very nifty cheap midrange sniper to me
you can get much better sniping megathron for the same price...or any other ship, why to bother with dominix? one of the worst sniping ships?
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Xio2
F4LLEN 4RMY
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Posted - 2007.11.13 19:13:00 -
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Edited by: Xio2 on 13/11/2007 19:14:13
cause its cheaper and does more damage also 1 more mid so better lock time... mega does have better range though
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Mista Mojo
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.11.13 19:26:00 -
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You can't snipe with senterys, without boosting the drone range. Then you will loos at least 2 high slots :(
But domi with senterysII rocks on missions
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LovelyRita Metermaid
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Posted - 2007.11.13 19:46:00 -
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Hint: Hull tank it. You don't believe me, but it's true.
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Xio2
F4LLEN 4RMY
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Posted - 2007.11.13 19:53:00 -
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Edited by: Xio2 on 13/11/2007 19:55:39
ah ok then so if target is outside of your drone control range sentry drones will not fire on it even if you have it locked?
if this is true this thing will still do about 900+ dps under 30km but wont be very good sniping outside of this unless you switch the drone scope rigs for drone control augmentation rigs which will give a drone control range of 90km
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Tikanom
Angel of War
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.11.13 20:27:00 -
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High: 4x Drone Control Unit, Something
Med: 2x Omnitirectional Tracking Link, 2xSensor Booster, 1x MWD
Low: Armor tank
Rigs: 3x Drone Scope Chips
Drones: Warden 2s
130km Sentry Optimal, 125km Drone Control Range, 157km Lock Range
Replace the Armor tank with Sensor Enhancers, then you can get the snipe range up to 160km.
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Nizomi
Caldari
Technopolis Ventures
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Posted - 2007.11.13 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tikanom
High: 4x Drone Control Unit, Something
Med: 2x Omnitirectional Tracking Link, 2xSensor Booster, 1x MWD
Low: Armor tank
Rigs: 3x Drone Scope Chips
Drones: Warden 2s
130km Sentry Optimal, 125km Drone Control Range, 157km Lock Range
Replace the Armor tank with Sensor Enhancers, then you can get the snipe range up to 160km.
You do knowt that dcu's are only for carriers and motherships?
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Gorken
Ace Adventure Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.13 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Xio2
Edited by: Xio2 on 13/11/2007 19:55:39
ah ok then so if target is outside of your drone control range sentry drones will not fire on it even if you have it locked?
Yep
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Tikanom
Angel of War
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.11.13 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Nizomi
You do knowt that dcu's are only for carriers and motherships?
Oops. Meant Drone Link Augmenters. Always get those mixed up.
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Altaica Amur
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Posted - 2007.11.13 21:14:00 -
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100km isn't sniping, trust me I've tried and lost a sniper to a speed gang that caught me before I could align and get out. Also putting a mwd on a ship with plates is pretty silly. For a good sentry sniping setup look at the Ishtar and... well the Myrmidon until they nerf it to hell.
On a Myrm you can do this:
highs
4x drone links
mids:
2x sensor boosters
3x omni tracking links
lows:
2x nanofiber
2x inertial stabalizers
1x explosive hardener
1x ENAM
Gives you 371 DPS @ 124km, an align & warpout time of 5.8 seconds which you'll need to get out of there fast when the **** hits the fan, the hardeners help your overall HP situation a tad. Do what you like with the remaining highs and hope that they really won't kill the Ishtar as well with the next patch because that's likly the only ship in the game that will do this effectively.
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Xio2
F4LLEN 4RMY
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Posted - 2007.11.13 21:22:00 -
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I dont really consider it a fleet sniping ship... but it should be fairly effective in gangs where targets are moving in and out of range. the MWD is only there to get out of dictor bubbles or back to a gate.
its basically not very useful for sniping over 60 km but would do very well at providing blasterthron like dps to hacs and up in gang fights.
I also tried some ishtar setups like this and it can do upwards of 600 dps and can make a pretty cool drone sniper boat also
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Altaica Amur
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Posted - 2007.11.13 21:39:00 -
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I'm not talking about fleet situations either, I'm talking about gatecamping against speed gangs and here's where you want every km of range you can get because those are extra seconds to align and warp out, at the very least take out the plates and put some nanofiber in because HP won't be saving your domi if a speed gang tries to hit you.
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente
Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.11.13 23:04:00 -
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You're not going to get sentries to any decent range without a lot pumped into them. Better to go with a Mega, you can get 180km off its 425s (and can still plunk down 5 sentries if enemies close).
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Shereza
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Posted - 2007.11.13 23:07:00 -
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Quote:
You can't snipe with senterys, without boosting the drone range. Then you will loos at least 2 high slots :(
Actually, you can, in a sense.
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ah ok then so if target is outside of your drone control range sentry drones will not fire on it even if you have it locked?
Correct.
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FYI on drones.
All drones use the same basic core code, or at least right now they do.
The only difference between a T2 wasp and a T2 heavy shield rep drone is the amount of damage they do. wasps do, for example, +40 damage and the heavy shield rep drones do -20 damage. All EW/support drones function like mobile remote versions of the mods they work like.
This is where things get relevant to the discussion at hand.
Sentry drones work the exact same way as every other combat drone. Your target needs to be within control range in order to tell your drones to attack them.
Whether you are 1km from your sentries or 100km from your sentries if you have 45km of control range your target needs to be under 45km from your ship.
When I tested it out awhile back I had an ishkur drop a warden off while I chased after a coercer. At 150km from the warden I could still tell it to return to drone bay and then tell it to attack the coercer which was only 40km or so from my ishkur.
Now, this doesn't necessarily help out with true sniping (as in your ship is at range as well as your sentries) but it does give you the option of dropping sentries 80-100km from a central point and using them as sniper guns on their own.
The only really good use for them like that, however, is gate camping or if you're running a mining op that's worth that sort (as in not dropping all 5 of your drones in one place) of setup time.
Just some devil's advocate fun.
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Redd Lenses
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.11.14 00:19:00 -
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Edited by: Redd Lenses on 14/11/2007 00:19:40
If you're going to drone snipe, snipe with the Ishtar.
You can make it go 4-6km/s, lock at 180+km, and have a drone control range of that far as well. You can drop t2 heavies or t2 sentries anywhere and run.
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Jason Marshall
Hammer Of Light
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Posted - 2007.11.14 00:47:00 -
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EVERYONE STOP LOOKINF AT THE DOMI FOR PVP WITH SENTRY DRONES IN MIND I DONT WANT TO GET NERFED GOD DAMNIT!
Tacky Lensflares in sigs ftw
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Kiviar
Caldari
Vice-Presidential Action Rangers
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Posted - 2007.11.14 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Marshall
EVERYONE STOP LOOKINF AT THE DOMI FOR PVP WITH SENTRY DRONES IN MIND I DONT WANT TO GET NERFED GOD DAMNIT!
Isnt that why they changed drone bay sheild recharge?
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Gallente
Ixion Defence Systems
The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.11.14 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kiviar
Originally by: Jason Marshall
EVERYONE STOP LOOKINF AT THE DOMI FOR PVP WITH SENTRY DRONES IN MIND I DONT WANT TO GET NERFED GOD DAMNIT!
Isnt that why they changed drone bay sheild recharge?
The instant shield recharge has little to do with sentries.
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General Meridus
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.11.14 05:24:00 -
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You all can forget about sniping anything, once the sensor booster nerf hits TQ. Please refer to the scripts thread in the Development forum. |
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