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Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.15 06:44:00 - [31] Originally by: Stellar Vix A lightweight Humvee replacement is on the way, it has impressive defenses for a scout veichle no codename yet but its IED proffed. its a warthog!!!! and the a-10 is too slow to be minmatar
Oedus Caro Caldari Cross Roads	Posted - 2007.11.15 07:01:00 - [32] Originally by: Baaldor Originally by: Quutar Here is proof of Amarr ships in the US Air Force. The Marines get Minmatar tech. I have found USAF flying some versions of the Thorax. Thorax Do you hear that rapid fire coming from the nose? That's Minmatar if ever a plane was.
Spenz Gallente Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.11.15 07:11:00 - [33] Uncassified Railgun vid If I had an Alt I would probably post with it...
Scav Silver Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.15 07:46:00 - [34] Yup.. True Amarrian Ship.. One shot for 8 seconds and it's out of CAP.. á ----------------------------------------------------------- "Scav est procul Porta!!" -=Pimary=- "Tonight you dine in....BKG?" -=Ashemi Darkhold=-
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.15 08:33:00 - [35] Originally by: SiJira defender lasers please Why? So we can have two completely useless missile defense systems? ____________________ Hi. I'm not an alt :)
mama guru Gallente Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2007.11.15 08:39:00 - [36] There is not a single system today that can stop a modern ICBM however *signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected]) EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak.
MOS DEF 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.11.15 09:29:00 - [37] Those idiots use xray! Radio would do more then enough damage and give em much more range!
mama guru Gallente Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2007.11.15 09:38:00 - [38] Originally by: MOS DEF Those idiots use xray! Radio would do more then enough damage and give em much more range! Use Gamma, *signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected]) EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak.
Prim Galactic Defence Consortium Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.15 22:42:00 - [39] quote] If it's anything like the stuff you posted it's classified because it's laughably absurd. Exactly what part is absurd? no its not classified.. their are things about it i cannot and willnot talk about.. the the general information is not.. So just because you have no clue about this subject its absurd? just do a google search on lasers.. see how absurd they are. 400x120@24000 bytes Maximum please. Mail [email protected] for more information. - Acario Vito
Sister Impotentata Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.11.15 22:46:00 - [40] Please to be making more discussions: "Which EVE boat is the A-10?" Cuz I'll reroll in an instant for a 'Hog. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Hostess Deconstructing the Twinkie is like trying to deconstruct the universe.
Sister Impotentata Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.11.15 22:55:00 - [41] Originally by: Spenz Uncassified Railgun vid Curious breech mechanism. Why build it so heavy if the only thing doing the work is the two 1/2 x 16 eyebolts acting as hingepins? ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Hostess Deconstructing the Twinkie is like trying to deconstruct the universe.
Megadon Caldari Deathshead Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.15 23:20:00 - [42] Originally by: Quutar Here is proof of Amarr ships in the US Air Force. The Marines get Minmatar tech. *FLASH NEWS RELEASEFLASH NEWS RELEASEFLASH NEWS RELEASE* *THURSDAY NOVEMBER 17, 2007* CCP NERFS US AIRFORCE'S LASER MISSILE INTERDICTION SYSTEM TO OBLIVION. CCP, a gaming company based in Iceland reduces the U.S. Airforces Airborn Missile Interdiction System effectiveness by an order of 100x. In an exclusive interview with General John G. Pumper, Air Force chief of staff based in Colorado Springs USA the General vowed that the Air Force would "vigorously investigate" how this came about and why. When asked about the US Air Forces involvement with CCP, General Pumper replied, "We don't know who these bastards are or how they took all of our heatsinks." --------------
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.11.15 23:36:00 - [43] Originally by: Baaldor I have found USAF flying some versions of the Thorax. Thorax The A-10 warthog is officially one of the coolest military jet aircraft ever created, battling for the top slot with the Harrier Jumpjet and the AC-130 "Spooky" Gunship. Those things bring out the latent gun nut in me... Badass choice of music, too. Thanks for the link. But I don't see the Thorax reference. Come on, they're lightning fast with a heavy-caliber gatling gun under the nose and a cluster of rocket pylons. Definitely a minmatar design. - The game is not the problem. The problem is that you are not adapting to the game.
Lrrp Minmatar Gallente Mercantile Exchange Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.11.15 23:41:00 - [44] Is this absurd?: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2407807.stm
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.11.15 23:57:00 - [45] Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 16/11/2007 00:03:28 Originally by: Artemis Dragmire Quote: Like every other red-blooded American boy, I enjoy the notion of propelling a piece of lead at up to Mach 8 and at "extreme" ranges. Hah! Give me some Uranium rounds instead and I'll show you some damage potential. Hate to break it to you but velocity counts for a LOT more in a kinetic impact than mass does. So, even though the uranium is more dense more speed = bigger bang at the end by far (that is to say if you double the speed you get more energy at impact than if you double the mass). Although for a rail gun you will likely want some metal with a huge thermal resistance. Probably tungsten which has a very high melting point and great tensile strength...both of which you will want for this. If you used lead or uranium the projectile will likely vaporize long before it reaches the target. Tungsten is the metal of choice for Rods from God (really like the idea of those things).
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:12:00 - [46] Originally by: Lrrp Is this absurd?: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2407807.stm Depends by how you define "absurd". CAN they do it? Sure. CAN they do it today in a way that provides practical protection? No. The good point of lasers is they can track very, very quickly (read that part again CCP ). The downside is they attenuate very, very quickly in an atmosphere (become less powerful the farther they go). In order to maintain enough power on the target at a reasonable range the laser needs to be quite powerful. This gets you into trouble with your power generation source. If you want to fire the thing more than once every few minutes you'd need significant power generation capabilities. Toting around a nuclear powerplant on the battlefield is a bit much to ask. Not to mention overall portability...the laser needs to be within a narrow range to engage the incoming projectile. As a result an enemy could easily overwhelm most such systems. Throw a few hundred artillery shells at the enemy and they will never be able to engage even most of them. If they actually had enough lasers around to do so the cost would likely FAR outstrip almost anything you are likely protecting anyway. The ABL mentioned earlier has some advantage in that being airborne at a high altitude atmospheric attenuation is not as bad. Add to that it is going after ICBMs. Whatever the ABL costs it is likely worthwhile compared to a whole city. Of course someone like Russia could swamp an ABL system as well but a one off from Korea or somesuch could be dealt with (also note the ABL needs to be up and in the area to be useful...ICBMs are quite fast...they'd be hard pressed to get one off the ground and in firing position if done after a launch).
Audri Fisher Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.11.16 00:42:00 - [47] Originally by: Sister Impotentata Originally by: Spenz Uncassified Railgun vid Curious breech mechanism. Why build it so heavy if the only thing doing the work is the two 1/2 x 16 eyebolts acting as hingepins? it also looked like the projectile had started to disintegrate before it hit the target, that is very very bad. In order to maintain accuracy, you need to make the projectile spin, if the projectile does not evenly disintegrate, that will cause big problems. My only reel problem with rail guns and the US navy is that they are the stated reason why the Battleships are going to be permanently mothballed Rail guns have there limitations, namely ROF, and you can't do plunging fire very effectly. I have never seen a Ship to shore bombardment, but I have seen the craters, and talked to those that have. Nothing warms a Marines heart like the knowledge that the USS Missouri is offshore, because nothing says "I love you" quite like a ship to shore bombardment by 16" Naval Cannon
Sister Impotentata Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.11.16 04:04:00 - [48] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Tungsten is the metal of choice for Rods from God (really like the idea of those things). I too am a big fan of the concept, but I'd argue, just for the sake of argument, that Tungsten may not be so obviously the right choice in hyper-super-OMGWTF-kinetic weapons. If the kinetic aspect is going to play so much of a role in the energy delivery, it really doesn't matter what the matter is. So long as they're atoms, and they're moving fast, they're going to do damage. However, let's consider: If we assume said kinetic missiles are going to be making re-entry, as is typical in your quoted scenario, and the missiles will trade a significant amount of kinetic for thermal, enough thermal to liquefy even the more hardy potential slug material candidates, then we have to examine thermal as a valid delivery device also. Specifically what I'm saying is that if the slug is going to melt on the way down anyway, let's make the slug out of something with a high heat of crystallization. Let's make that liquid phase carry as much of the thermal to the target as possible. Sure Tungsten would come down mostly solid, and hit solid. But a cheaper iron or lead slug would come down in a bolt of molten fury, with just as much terminal velocity. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Hostess Deconstructing the Twinkie is like trying to deconstruct the universe.
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.11.16 04:50:00 - [49] Originally by: Sister Impotentata Sure Tungsten would come down mostly solid, and hit solid. But a cheaper iron or lead slug would come down in a bolt of molten fury, with just as much terminal velocity. I am not a physicist or materials engineer but I am not so sure on your assessment. As the object liquefies it will spread out some providing more surface area to slow it down. Additionally, part of the Rod from God concept is as a kinetic penetrator to zap deeply buried bunkers. A blob of molten iron may make a satisfying boom wherever it hits but is not likely to penetrate very far. A Tungsten rod will still have sufficient mass left to drill deeply into the ground. Dunno. I wonder if some kind of ceramic sheath would provide enough thermal insulation. Or perhaps whatever it is they use to make the thermal tiles on the Space Shuttle. But then a 20 foot rod of tungsten may be simpler and cheaper...I really do not know. Still...gotta love the concept. Enemy: "You nuked our lab!" Us: "Huh? Oh...must've been a meteor...what are the chances? Bad luck buddy."
Sqalevon The Ragnarg Brotherhood	Posted - 2007.11.16 08:26:00 - [50] I believe the thermal insulation tiles on the spaceshuttle are siliconoxide based.
Brutus Proqqus	Posted - 2007.11.16 08:59:00 - [51] If the US Airforce fly's Amarr.... then Russia fly's minmatar ;p They are kept together with ducktape :P
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.16 09:04:00 - [52] Edited by: Splagada on 16/11/2007 09:04:05 Originally by: Lrrp Is this absurd?: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2407807.stm best way to store energy is still in chemical form. most of the ultra high power lasers are fluorine lasers, that makes quite a dangerous ship to crash... (fluor is bad, i mean really BAD, fluorhydric acid looks like water, doesnt smell, but eats your bones without touching the flesh(mostly) :p ) a rain of this coming of such a device being shot down would be totally.... horrible :/ and on the optics to focus such a thing, theres quite a challenge ------ Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.11.16 09:56:00 - [53] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Originally by: Sister Impotentata Sure Tungsten would come down mostly solid, and hit solid. But a cheaper iron or lead slug would come down in a bolt of molten fury, with just as much terminal velocity. I am not a physicist or materials engineer but I am not so sure on your assessment. As the object liquefies it will spread out some providing more surface area to slow it down. Additionally, part of the Rod from God concept is as a kinetic penetrator to zap deeply buried bunkers. A blob of molten iron may make a satisfying boom wherever it hits but is not likely to penetrate very far. A Tungsten rod will still have sufficient mass left to drill deeply into the ground. Dunno. I wonder if some kind of ceramic sheath would provide enough thermal insulation. Or perhaps whatever it is they use to make the thermal tiles on the Space Shuttle. But then a 20 foot rod of tungsten may be simpler and cheaper...I really do not know. Still...gotta love the concept. Enemy: "You nuked our lab!" Us: "Huh? Oh...must've been a meteor...what are the chances? Bad luck buddy." Yeah, every time I've visualized this concept the first place my brain goes is advanced ceramics. The big problem I see with tungsten is mass, and therefore cost to put it into orbit. Sure, that additional mass = more penetration, but when you're talking about velocities in the tens of thousands of KPH, a few ounces to the m3 of difference is quibbling on points. If the bunker in question is really THAT hard a target, there are probably other weapons that will outperform regardless of if you're using tungsten rods or ceramics. Of course, in my bizarre little fantasy, the happy ceramic rods are launched in a constellation. Put an even dozen on target to guarantee that kill...
Aquidus Nefron Caldari Department of Defence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.16 10:26:00 - [54] well, if u think about it, we have been flying cald ships for years.....I mean, missiles, think about it.
Sister Impotentata Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.11.17 01:19:00 - [55] I have thought about what both General Jora'h and Amarria had to say. I think I am in agreement, and discarding the ideas I had last night. Consider. Let us assume we have a rod in orbit, speed relative to ground of about 7000 m/s (a bit more altitude than LEO if I remember my Orbiter correctly). This rod has an energy deliverable to target that is a product of its mass and speed over ground, added to the joule product of its mass times altitude. When the rod reenters, it trades its speed for heat. But the only energy lost is to convection or ablation. Ever see a stroboscope of a raindrop? They're not mushrooms, and they don't spread out. They're rods with spheroid ends, like the bacteria of the same name. The point is, any energy that's not lost to the atmosphere is going to be delivered to the target. Regardless of whether the projectile is entirely kinetic (ceramic or tungsten) or kinetic with a thermal element (base metals). Unless the attacking mass is blown away by its own impact, which is much more likely with a molten, fluid mass than a still solid one. So, ultimately, I think it comes down to an analysis of the behavior of the receiving (target) mass accepting the delivery (projectile) mass. Is the target mass a strong, brittle material with high heat retention and poor heat conductivity? Hard solid projectiles FTW. Is the target mass a deformable plastic with a low heat of crystallization and poor conductivity? Hot molten metal plasma behind a shockwave, as seen previously to great effect in the Panzerfaust. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Hostess Deconstructing the Twinkie is like trying to deconstruct the universe.
Stellar Vix State War Academy	Posted - 2007.11.17 05:30:00 - [56] The video posted is the offical test firing, The sabot in the test shot as explained to me was an aluiminium mix with some iron, the real sabbots would probably be a d urainium core surronded by ferros alloys. Lasers as of now have a 10 to 1 power ratio in the military, far far far more effective than most civillian lasers of a 100 to 1 power ratio where a chemcial catalsyt would be needed to enhance the effect of the laser supercharging the photons with more engery. Both SEL and FEL can intercept ICBM but they have short range but the laser is indeed powerful enough to get decent ranges out of them current ranges are about 10-20 miles, more than enough to defend against incomming ordinance if the target was a ship, with multiple aircraft and 'cannons' both SEL and FEL can easily deter many missiles if an overwhelming attempt was made. ABL range however should be rediciulous but i can expect a slower firing rate from those things but i dont work on them and im not air force so i wouldnt know to much about it. Maybe they might be gong with the onboard generators as well instead of a chemcial catalyst. Anyways google up for the F-35 flight helmet and you think they stole that helmet from halo or something. SWA PVP
SiJira	Posted - 2007.11.17 20:54:00 - [57] Originally by: techzer0 Originally by: SiJira defender lasers please Why? So we can have two completely useless missile defense systems? this one would work but the ship would be hard pressed to fit much else ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Sister Impotentata Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.11.17 22:06:00 - [58] Originally by: Stellar Vix Both SEL and FEL can intercept ICBM but they have short range but the laser is indeed powerful enough to get decent ranges out of them current ranges are about 10-20 miles, more than enough to defend against incomming ordinance if the target was a ship, with multiple aircraft and 'cannons' both SEL and FEL can easily deter many missiles if an overwhelming attempt was made. Why do these lasers have such a short range? If I understand correctly, IRL the "range" of a laser is proportional to its collimation. Collimation is a measure of how close to parallel the boundaries of the beam are. Laser light is in theory perfectly collimated, but in leaving the lasing medium through the exit aperture it is subject to classical diffraction. A long wavelength of light (towards the red) through a small aperture will diffract rapidly. A short wavelength of light (towards the blue) through a large aperture will remain collimated longer. My question is, if we can create infrared semiconductor lasers with inch-plus exit apertures that remain collimated to hundreds or thousands of miles, what is the wavelength vs aperture profile of these lasers that only remain effectively collimated for a few tens of miles? Other possible considerations: Weapon is discharging through atmosphere. Tracking limitations. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Psycho John Petrucci If there's any point where you feel it's too difficult, then just stop. Because you just, you don't have it, you're just not good.
Stellar Vix State War Academy	Posted - 2007.11.18 01:43:00 - [59] Its the way the lasers are focused and projected, im sure if the FEL and SEL where made to be very long range they wouldnt be powerful or focused enough to cook anything. You also got atmosphere to deal with, if it where in space lasers would probably have triple the range but then again solid based guns would have infinite range in theory youll just need one hell of a targeting computer and guided rounds. But we arent allowed to use space based weapons in agreement with russia to never turn space intoa battle field because seriously the weapons we have ready to go up would make nukes less practical. SWA PVP
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.18 05:40:00 - [60] Edited by: Splagada on 18/11/2007 05:41:06 Originally by: Stellar Vix You also got atmosphere to deal with, if it where in space lasers would probably have triple the range but then again solid based guns would have infinite range in theory youll just need one hell of a targeting computer and guided rounds. But we arent allowed to use space based weapons in agreement with russia to never turn space intoa battle field because seriously the weapons we have ready to go up would make nukes less practical. the tracking/guiding is really no problem with nowadays computers. the main prob is producing, then guiding so much energy density through a lens. for the production i dont think its possible to do it solid state based. id vote for fluorine excimers as the type of laser :p for the guiding i didnt know you could pass a multi-kw laser through a small space like this lens seems to be anyway ahh get that nerd out of my body!!! ------ Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence

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