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CCP Spitfire
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Posted - 2011.09.06 07:12:00 -
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In an effort to reduce the amount of character scams, GM workload and player frustration, the following changes are being made to the announcements concerning character sales or auctions for ISK. No other form of payment is sanctioned or supported.
- The 'For Sale/Auction' post must be made by the character being offered. This is being added to prevent scams for characters that have been misrepresented, banned, non-existent, etc.
- You must disclose whether or not the character being sold has a negative balance in its wallet and the amount.
- The character being sold must receive the ISK for the purchase.
- The sell post must reflect the character correctly, posting that the character you're selling has more skillpoints or ISK than it actually has is a bannable offence.
- Items cannot be listed among the character's valuable assets, only skills, implants and reputation. You are buying/selling the character ONLY and nothing else. Ships and items can be readily bought on the market for ISK.
- You may only bump threads ONCE Per day. Date is determined by the date on the forum, not the date where you live. See this guide for more information on bumping.
- The new owner of the character may NOT pass himself off as the original owner.
- The character for sale must be from an active account, you cannot trade characters from inactive accounts.
- The character being sold must be in an NPC corporation.
- The character being sold must be older than 14 days old to avoid accidental transfers.
- The selling of accounts is prohibited, characters may only be sold individually.
- The owner of the character being sold is responsible for the character transfer fee paid to CCP.
- Prior to leaving a corporation, the character to be sold MUST send a corp-wide EVE mail stating that they are going to be sold and will be leaving for an NPC corporation.
- When a character is sold, please modify the topic title to reflect this to help other forum patrons know what characters are still available.
- Lottery style sales are not permitted. Auctions and buyouts are the appropriate method for selling a character.
- All scams involving character transfers are prohibited.
- Whenever a character is transferred before the seller has moved the ISK received from the sale to another one of their characters, the Customer Support team will return that ISK to the rightful owner. The buyer cannot expect to receive both the character and the ISK that they paid to purchase it.
- CCP Fallout talks about the 10 hour character transfer delay.
- Down-payment plans are not supported by CCP Customer Support. As a seller, you are agreeing to a certain amount of ISK only, which is to be paid in one payment. Once again, any forms of scams regarding character sales is prohibited.
These changes are effective immediately. Posts made after this announcement will be edited with a link to this thread or deleted without notification.
Please post below with any rule change, new rule submission or resource you feel useful for fellow players or something you want to bring to our attention.
Agreements on the forums or in game, or winning an auction does not guarantee a character will be transferred to you. The seller may choose to renege on a deal at any time, prior to the transaction being completed |
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CCP Spitfire
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C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.06 07:14:00 -
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Resources
Deckard Bishop's guide to buying and selling characters in EVE
Advice on what to do if you can't log into your new character straight away *fixed*
Wrangler warns about keyloggers
Things to do before selling your Characters Helpful tips by Xira Xarien
To confirm the effects of a negative isk character, they include:
* Inability to run agent missions with collateral.
* Inability to trade.
* Inability to use contracts.
* Anything involving having to pay for the service is unavailable.
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For all issues with character transfers please file a petition under billing-character transfers.
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Here is a good place to link your skills:
http://eveboard.com/ |
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CCP Spitfire
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Posted - 2011.09.06 07:14:00 -
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FAQ
Q. HELP there is a scammer, hacker, or other issue with this thread. What do I do?
A. For all issues with character transfers please file a petition under billing-character transfers. You can also use the "report" function located on the top right of each post so the thread can be removed.
Q. If the character transferred to me is training a skill what happens?
A. The character transferred will stop skill training. You will need to log into it and restart the skill training like it was a normal secondary character on your account. [yellow]This answer has been updated. Zymurgist[/yellow]
Q. Can I transfer my new character to a new account?
A. Of course! As long as an account activated, not a trial account, then it can receive a bought character.
Q. I keep getting the error that my old character is still logged in and won't let me transfer. What do I do?
A. Zorvoz found a work around that should fix your problem. Hopefully this will be fixed in the near future.
Q. "Is there any repercussions for sellers who post an auction and then do not follow up on it?" -Amor Loricatus
A. Character scams are not allowed, just file a petition and GMs will look into it and transfer your ISK back.
Q. Can I get a Price Quote?
A. Yes! Please use the Price Check forums though. Browsing for similar characters and how much they sold is also a great way to find a starting price.
Q. Is ISK the only currency for buying a Character?
A. Yes
Q. My character has ships and ISK still in their hangar and wallet. Can I put it up for sale still?
A. Of course, just please remove these items before transfer and do not calculate them into the price of the character. Be careful because all items will remain with the character upon transfer.
Q. Can I sell my Damnation, Navy Raven, Nyx, etc with my character?
A. Nope, but you can sell them in the Sell Order forums.
Q. That character scammed my corp why did you delete my post informing everyone they were a scammer?
A. Crime & Punishment was the appropriate place for these kind of discussions. You can see this post by CCP Spitfire for more information.
Q. Will misrepresenting available skill points in the free skill point pool be considered a scam?
A. Yes it is. Please do not do this as it is a petitionable offense.
Q. My post in this thread just got deleted! Do you hate me?
A. No! I love all of you! This thread has been cleaned up of posts and this FAQ posted mostly in the interest of keeping the thread small and information easy to access. If you feel your question has not been addressed post again and it can be answered and or added to this FAQ. Just remember, the right place to discuss any hacking, scamming, or other shenanagans is through the petition system.
You can also find a small FAQ on the account services page detailing some transfer questions.
Update: Rule 5 was modified on January 27, 2011. The requirement to remove all assets of value from the character was removed. Just remember that you are only selling the character. Assets should be sold in-game or on the Sell Oder forum but you are welcome to transfer them to the new owner via the Character Transfer. |
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CCP Zymurgist
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C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.14 20:32:00 -
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Julian Schweizer wrote:Aulus Plautius wrote:hi a question
I Cant handle 3 account anymore so I want to transfer my main from account 3 to account 1 (so, all my toons)
1. Do i still need to be in a npc corp.
2. can The toon who gonna be transferd keep the assets and the wallets?
3.do i need to post it on eve-o char.bazaar ?
o7 Good questions! 4. How much do I have to pay for Transfering a Character?
1. From what I understand, yes, as it is a technical requirement.
2. Yes
3. Since you are trading with yourself the "owner" really isn't changing so there is really no reason to.
4. For a flat fee of 20 Euros/USD or 2 PLEX you can transfer one character off your active account to another account.
If you need any additional information you can always file a billing petition for a GM to answer.
Zymurgist
Community Representative
CCP NA, EVE Online
Contact Us at http://support.eveonline.com/pages/petitions/createpetition.aspx |
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CCP Navigator
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C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.25 10:32:00 -
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Kitt JT wrote:Quick question. I upgraded an account from a trial to a 'real' account. How long will it take before I am able to transfer a character to that account? I keep getting the message "Character does not exsist... blah blah blah, something"
It should be no more than 72 hours from the date the account becomes a paid account. If you have any further issues, please submit a petition under the 'Billing' category.
CCP Navigator - Lead Community Representative |
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CCP Navigator
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Posted - 2011.10.25 10:32:00 -
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We updated the rules today with the following:
21. The location of the character must be disclosed and whether it is in high security, low security, null sec or wormhole space.
CCP Navigator - Lead Community Representative |
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ISD Stensson
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.06.19 15:33:00 -
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Maciek Caldari wrote:Serenety Steel wrote: wrote:CCP Spitfire
The character being sold must be in an NPC corporation.
Just out of curiosity, Does this rule apply when the character is up for sale or when a sale is agreed? Just wondering as i have sold many and have had most of them up for sale while in a corp.... Glad im not the only one noticing those threads getting locked today...
You can read this explain from CCP Spitfire on the matter.
ISD Stensson
Ensign
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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ISD Stensson
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.06.19 15:49:00 -
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When you create sell offer (being in player owned corporation) it is possible that this will throw additional 24 hours (it is time you need to drop corp roles) of waiting (in addition to 10 hours character transfer delay) from buyer to complete bargain.
As result, buyer can start to be nervous and will write petition on you about possible scam, because the buyer expects only a 10-hour delay as it is described in rules.
ISD Stensson
Ensign
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.06.27 03:32:00 -
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We've informed the correct people about the way the system works and how it's affecting you. Sorry for any inconvenience it might be causing. For now, just stick to the rules and we'll render what help we can. Thanks.
P.S: I cleaned up the thread a tiny bit. Let's try and keep it constructive, ok?
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Ensign
Community Communication Liasions (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Stensson
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:20:00 -
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Some useful information:
Quote:Issues with character transfers
We have noticed issues with character transfers today, June 27, and have temporarily disabled this option until further notice. The resonsible developer team is working on restoring this service again, a solution can be expected on Thursday, June 28.
We apologize for any inconvenience.
Source: http://community.eveonline.com/news/newsFromEve.asp?newsTitle=issues-with-character-transfers
ISD Stensson
Ensign
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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ISD Stensson
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.06.28 21:06:00 -
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Updated information:
Quote:Issues with character transfers
reported by CCP Navigator | 2012-06-28T18:58:44Z
We have noticed issues with character transfers today, June 27, and have temporarily disabled this option until further notice. The resonsible developer team is working on restoring this service again, a solution can be expected not before Friday, June 29. We will keep you updated about the situation.
We apologize for any inconvenience.
ISD Stensson
Ensign
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Stensson
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.08.27 12:51:00 -
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Lynn Liguria wrote:Question: I am trying to sell this character, can i have the buyer send the ISK to a separate account??? Also, i don't get the Catch 22, if this character is supposed to get the ISK, how can I sell it and get the ISK (out of this characters wallet) before the 10 hr wait period??? Thanks. ReRead the Rules, NVM, and thank you 
Look. The character being sold have recieved ISKs. You are moving this ISKs next to another character and initializing character transfer.
When 10-hours period is started you can not do anything with this character. But, as per rules, whenever a character is transferred before the seller has moved the ISK received from the sale to another one of their characters, the Customer Support team will return that ISK to the rightful owner. The buyer cannot expect to receive both the character and the ISK that they paid to purchase it.
Was my answer useful? If no, feel free to ask additional questions. Sorry for long answering.
ISD Stensson
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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ISD Stensson
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.08.27 13:53:00 -
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Zander Miller wrote:ISD/DEV/GM RESPONSES ONLY.
I don't care who you are, how knowledgable you are, or what your 'rep' is. I want OFFICIAL word from an EMPLOYEE of CCP itself, weather it be the volunteer ISD staff, a GM, or a CCP Employee personally.
Over the past few days, there have been a lot of 'finger pointing' at me telling me I will be banned for scamming and breaking the rules, mostly by poor miscreants in noob corp chat.
I want to know the EXACT rule regarding rule #4. My character has exactly (without pausing and updating to the second) 68,341,966 SP. Now, according to the rule's wording, I have to list it as a 68mil sp character. But wait, I'm currently training a rank 5 skill from 4 to 5. When it finishes, I will have just over 69mil SP. I have listed my character for sale as approximately (~) 70mil.
I clearly post the skillpoints in the thread, and post a link to the skillsheet which not only shows the exact sp, but the current skill in training.
I am not trying to pass this off as a 70mil sp character, nor am I trying to deceive anyone. To me (and any sane person) 68/69mil sp is close enough to 70mil that the few little numbers don't matter. I will have over 70mil sp before I even blink twice, so to speak.
Furthermore, I am selling the character for the skillset he possesses, not the points he has accumulated . Therefor, kind staff, is it within rules and regulations to list a character as approximately the nearest whole number, to a degree. I'm not saying people should be allowed to say their 12mil sp character is ~20mil, or their 6mil char is ~10mil. But for us older characters who have accumulated many skillpoints over the years, is it safe to say, per rules and regulations, that a 68,341,966 is ~70mil?
Furthermore, I cannot believe it has come down to this. I am not looking to be banned, nor am I looking to deceive or scam anyone. I am just looking for serious buyers who know what they want, and know that 1mil sp isn't going to change the value of the character in any way, shape, or form.
Firstly, if you believe that other players have been 'finger pointing' at you in your thread, you should report their posts to us by using the Report This Post tool. This kind of posting is nothing more than an attempt at derailing the thread. Other players may post bids or questions regarding the character being sold GÇö and nothing else. No criticizing the layout that you use for your character description, no ROFLing at your price, only bids or questions. If they see any rules being violated, they must use the same tool as well without posting any comments to your thread.
In short, if they are making off-topic posts instead of reporting rule violations directly to us, they are violating the rules of this section as well. Do not hesistate to report these cases to CCL and CCP Community Team.
As to the rounding of numbers, why would you want to complicate matters by failing to list the exact amount of SPs that your character has? Best case scenario, you will have to do some explaining, worst case scenario, a buyer will report you for scamming; any illusory advantage gained by rounding SPs up is pretty much nullified by additional complexities involved. Rule #4 exists for a very good reason, so we would like you to observe it as it is.
ISD Stensson
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Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Stensson
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Posted - 2012.08.27 17:42:00 -
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Emadman wrote:WANT TO BUY AMMENDMENT TO RULES ! Ok Whilst we all the know the reasons for the rules, WHY MUST the character already be in an NPC corp, some of us will try and sell our characters whilst also not burning our current bridges Take myself I listed a WTS whilst still in my current corp, and on the post it IS VERY clear that i would not accept any isk until i am in an NPC corp, also bearing in mind the mechanics of the character x-fer system where it WILL NOT let you transfer a chracter unless already in an npc corp Whilst i would like to sell my toon, its not black and white in that i MUST sell my toon, the fact is if there are no takers on my WTS thread, then i would happily carry on doing what im doing, howver by leaving the corp i have burnt my bridges. I dont see the need to have him/her already in an npc corp at time of listing, but FULLY agree with the mechanics of not being able to transfer unless in an npc. Can this rule not be changed to make it easier for some of us who would like to see if selling our toons is a viable option maybe something along lines of "no financial transaction to take place unless the toon is in an NPC corp" rather than CCP Spitfire wrote:
The character being sold must be in an NPC corporation at the time of posting.
Or if this rule cannot be ammended can we GET clarification why this rule is so important when the mechanics WILL NOT allow transfer whilst still in a corp??? Ameyn Mimian wrote:How long has #9 been a rule and why did it come about?
Having to drop my character to an NPC just to gauge interest for it makes no sense at all. What if I decide the offers aren't woth my time? Now I have to further muddle up the corp history, which effects sale value. as you can see im not the only one who wants further information... The only people that would seem to gain from this would be character traders who dont play the characters they own. rather than the regular eve players who might/might not want to upgrade their toon to a betteer one if they can sell their current toon Also just had a look and at a rough guess i see in region of 50 locked threads over last few days just because they are not in npc corporation, and most (in region of 45) state they will be in npc within 24hours, this is in terms of use of time a complete was of ISD time and could surely be spent in better areas of eve (how about jita local locking all the bots/macroers from spamming scam contracts and nope i dont mean the regualr scams but the guys who seem to be able to spam for roughly 22 hours a day every day(not instead of regular players trying to sell toons)
The character transfering system will not let you transfer the character until you are in an NPC corporation. Yes. But you probably didn't think anything about the buyer. He expects to wait only 10 hours before recieving the character. He is expecting no additional 24 hours of waiting (while the seller drops his roles and is passing to the NPC corporation). When it happens he starts to be nervous, he writes petition on you about possible scam, he derails your thread with blaming and abusing. And so on. As a result, your inflexible will to save the bridges (for 1-2 additional days) throws additional work and additional nervous for you, for buyer, for moderators, and for Support Team.
The bargain with the seller who is in a player owned corporation in many cases throws additional time while the buyer must wait. Sellers may writes any remarks about dropped corporation roles in their threads, but this kind of deals in many cases throws additional time while the buyer must wait (because seller's corp roles was not dropped, in spite of their remarks).
In order to avoid this kind of situations: The character being sold must be in an NPC corporation at the time of posting. Every bargain must be complete after 10-hours delay (not after 10+24 hours of delaying).
(Please do not take this post as a message that is personalised to you. It is only my manner of speaking.)
ISD Stensson
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Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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CCP Gargant
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Posted - 2012.10.03 12:59:00 -
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The first rule has been updated to allow multiple characters to be sold within the same thread provided there is proof of ownership.
Carry on!
CCP Gargant | Community Representative |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.12.14 13:32:00 -
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Vahldaris wrote:Are you allowed to make multiple threads selling the same character? Coz there's someone doing that.
Hi,
No - you're not. That's actually forbidden across the forums.
Please help us by reporting any threads or posts that break the rules. As you're no doubt aware, this section of the forums is very busy and we just can't always see problems when they happen.
Any help you can give us is gratefully received!
Thanks.
ISD Suvetar
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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CCP Gargant
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C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.03 13:04:00 -
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Please be aware of an update to the rules that was made today. The following entry is new:
"You disclose if there are kill rights on their characters when they are put up for sale. Kill rights on other characters are to be treated as assets and not included in the character listing."
Keep on keeping on and happy new year everybody.
CCP Gargant | Community Representative | EVE Illuminati |
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CCP Gargant
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Posted - 2013.02.08 11:38:00 -
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The rules have been updated. Clause number 5 received the following addition:
"A seller must disclose whether jump clones are located in 0.0, lowsec or highsec space."
CCP Gargant | Community Representative | EVE Illuminati |
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CCP Eterne
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C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.13 12:10:00 -
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Unfortunately no discussion of action taken in a support ticket or about other players accounts can be discussed in this thread. If you have any questions/concerns about a specific auction, please send in a support ticket under the Billing -> Character Transfers category.
EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
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CCP Leeloo
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C C P Alliance
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Suzie Vyvorant wrote:I get 404's on both of these;
Deckard Bishop's guide to buying and selling characters in EVE
Wrangler warns about keyloggers
Try this:
Deckard Bishop's guide to buying and selling characters in EVE
Wrangler warns about keyloggers
Suzie Vyvorant wrote:Also I get a 404 on this link.
Try this: Character Transfer
You will find a link there "Frequently Asked Questions" it says:
Quote:
Q. Why do I have to pay for transferring my character?
A. As your character is your identity in EVE the transfer of such an identity needs to be limited. Identity hopping and alternate character abuse are immersion breakers in any virtual world; this is why CCP has chosen to limit this as much as possible. It is clear that some players wish to donate their characters to their friends so we want to keep this possibility open. The surest way to prevent abuse of this feature is to have credit card records backing the transfer. All abuse/hacking/exploitation of this feature will be treated as credit card fraud.
Q. I have suspended my account and I can't transfer a character from that account, why is that?
A. To prevent possible exploit your account needs to be in active state, i.e. subscription is paid for. This is to prevent assets on frozen, banned or otherwise suspended accounts from being transferred.
Q. Why does my character have to be in an NPC corporation to be transferred?
A. Being in a player corporation is a serious commitment. There is no way for CCP to verify that you are transferring your character with the consent of your fellow corporation members. To transfer such a character you need to first resign from your corporation, after the transfer the character can reapply for the corporation and the corpmates then have the option of evaluating if they choose to reaccept the character under the changed circumstances.
Q. Why does my character have to be 14 days old or more to be transferred?
A. Transferring a character that is less than 14 days old makes little sense. This limitation is put in place mainly to prevent accidental transfers of wrong characters.
Hope it helps <3
CCP Leeloo | CSM Coordinator | @ccp_leeloo
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