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Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2007.11.15 06:57:00 - [1] As I understand it empty slots act as heat syncs letting you run overheated modules longer and that you can repair modules in space in the upcoming patch. Marauders only have half as many turrets so your already producing half as much heat. Take a Kronos fit 4 turrets, now leave the other 3 slots empty in-between the turrets. Half as much heat with extra heat reduction could mean you can leave your turrets overheating none stop with the lvl 5 skill. Or for a long time then you use the isk you save on using less ammo and put it towards fixing the turrets in space. Passive shield tanking guide click here
Aravel Thon	Posted - 2007.11.15 07:06:00 - [2] Spiral staircases in medieval castles are running clockwise. This is because all knights used to be right-handed. When the intruding army would climb the stairs they would not be able to use their right hand which was holding the sword because of the difficulties of climbing the stairs. Left-handed knights would have had no troubles, except left-handed people could never become knights because it was assumed that they were descendants of the devil.
Caligulus Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.11.15 07:10:00 - [3] lol So does that mean that ambidextrous people were decedents of the gods slumming it? ------------------------------------------------- ** Name ONE thing that your windows comp can do that my MAC cant ** Right click.
Shiodome Caldari Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.11.15 07:18:00 - [4] Edited by: Shiodome on 15/11/2007 07:19:56 henry V was left handed, but he was probably exempt from this persecution... something to do with having people nearby that would do nasty things to people that weren't nice to him. royal privilege i guess. (as for the original post... who the f*ck cares? i can count on the fingers of one fish the number of people that would leave 3 high slots empty on a pvp ship, and anyone that wants to do it in pve be my guest... it's not affecting anyone else so shrug) _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[]====[cool]
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2007.11.15 07:33:00 - [5] ô(as for the original post... who the fck cares? i can count on the fingers of one fish the number of people that would leave 3 high slots empty on a pvp ship,ö** What could go in the high slots thatÆs better then 15% more damage? Passive shield tanking guide click here
Shardrael Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.11.15 07:49:00 - [6] Edited by: Shardrael on 15/11/2007 07:51:09 I didnt know that about overheating pottsey and if thats the case its pretty damn special actually. and for the nubbins that say who cares...... if you cant see the benefit in that then you are about as smart or tactically sound as a stump..... "hey guys guess what I have a ship here that does 1000 dps normally,, and then when I push this button it does 1150 for 5 minutes......." no who would want that.... edit: for a further example, lets say you have a tachyon sniping paladin which would pretty much be an awesome dps ship at sniping. what are you gonna fit in those other high slots that would be very useful at 170km's out? nothing that can equal out to an extra 15% dmg for the duration of the engagement.
Yukisa	Posted - 2007.11.15 07:50:00 - [7] The real question is, why would anyone use marauders in pvp on a regular basis where it would matter? 700M-900M per ship after invention/build costs.. barely outperforms t1 BSes, have weak sensor strength with the upcoming ECM ship boosts (t1 BB noobs will perma jam marauders with ONE mid slot). Importantly, their insurance will blow. It's ok for pve, but meh.. what a stupid ship design.
Shiodome Caldari Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.11.15 08:02:00 - [8] Edited by: Shiodome on 15/11/2007 08:04:38 Quote: and for the nubbins that say who cares...... if you cant see the benefit in that then you are about as smart or tactically sound as a stump..... yes, because "LOL DPS!" shows much more tactical awareness than using those highs for remote repping, cap disruption, and ye know... general team work and fleet/gang tactics? Quote: edit: for a further example, lets say you have a tachyon sniping paladin which would pretty much be an awesome dps ship at sniping. what are you gonna fit in those other high slots that would be very useful at 170km's out? nothing that can equal out to an extra 15% dmg for the duration of the engagement. kk, you take your +dps sniping gang, and sit them 170km away from an equal sized snipe gang all remote repping the primary, see who lasts longer. _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[*]====[cool]
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2007.11.15 08:04:00 - [9] Originally by: Yukisa The real question is, why would anyone use marauders in pvp on a regular basis where it would matter? 700M-900M per ship after invention/build costs.. barely outperforms t1 BSes, have weak sensor strength with the upcoming ECM ship boosts (t1 BB noobs will perma jam marauders with ONE mid slot). Importantly, their insurance will blow. It's ok for pve, but meh.. what a stupid ship design. Base insurance payout is 100mil or so. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? GMP and TNP
Horus Dark	Posted - 2007.11.15 09:27:00 - [10] paladin for sniping? please tell me why i should use a paladin over a abbadon. The paladin sux...period. To the topic. i wouldnt want to sacrifice that many slots for the little gain you get.
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.15 10:03:00 - [11] Originally by: Shiodome kk, you take your +dps sniping gang, and sit them 170km away from an equal sized snipe gang all remote repping the primary, see who lasts longer. The +dps gang will, the remote repair gang wont get a chance to activate their modules on the primary before it explodes. The mauraders will be very good for low-sec gate camping where they can load up on remote reps, a bit of projected ECCM, and stick close togother. And the remote reps certianly wont be inconsequential in other settings, just not the sniper gang.
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.15 10:05:00 - [12] Originally by: Horus Dark paladin for sniping? please tell me why i should use a paladin over a abbadon. The paladin sux...period. To the topic. i wouldnt want to sacrifice that many slots for the little gain you get. The only reason not to use the Paladin is that it is expensive. It uses half the cap of the Abaddon, can fit a full rack of Tachyons without PG mods, has a cap bonus to let it fire even longer, and has 3 free high slots for overloading or remote repair fitting for after the battle. Since it uses so little PG and cap compared to the current Abaddon, it is easy enough to fit an ECCM in the meds and have about the same sensor strenghth. So you get more of either DPS, range, or hit points, and can fire longer while not being dependant on cap charges.
Horus Dark	Posted - 2007.11.15 10:15:00 - [13] No dmg mod. More skill intensive 5 times more expensive. Bad insurance
achoura	Posted - 2007.11.15 10:21:00 - [14] Originally by: Horus Dark No dmg mod. More skill intensive 5 times more expensive. Bad insurance Umm, the marauder bonus is 5% damage, the bs bonus is cap. fire up sisi once in a while.
N1fty Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.11.15 10:29:00 - [15] I think distance between modules and gaps between modules is something CCP is PLANNING to introduce to heat. But at the moment it doesn't exist. Perma-running overheated modules is only planned for Tech 3 modules, and even then it wont be perma-heat. So I doubt CCP will introduce anything to let you keep your T1 or T2 modules overheated for more than a minute or two. ============================================
Qui Shon	Posted - 2007.11.15 11:05:00 - [16] Edited by: Qui Shon on 15/11/2007 11:06:09 Originally by: Shiodome (as for the original post... who the f*ck cares? i can count on the fingers of one fish the number of people that would leave 3 high slots empty on a pvp ship, and anyone that wants to do it in pve be my guest... it's not affecting anyone else so shrug) Ships & Mods didn't use to be this full of ******s, you guys used to stay in C&P, COAD and Gen Pop for the most part. Uh, Gen Discussion I mean. Too bad even this section is now infected with such needless and useless hate. If empty slots really will offer better heat dissipation that's very interesting indeed. I don't remember reading (or testing, for that matter) anything to that effect. Good news for marauders if it's true.
Horus Dark	Posted - 2007.11.15 11:10:00 - [17] devblog: 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per Amarr BS level 2% bonus to stasis webifier velocity factor per Amarr BS level 7.5% bonus to armor repair amount per Marauder level 7.5% bonus to large energy turret tracking per Marauder level Role bonus: 100% bonus to large energy turret damage Role bonus: 100% bonus to range and velocity of tractor beams
bundy bear	Posted - 2007.11.15 11:34:00 - [18] Originally by: Shiodome Edited by: Shiodome on 15/11/2007 07:19:56 henry V was left handed, but he was probably exempt from this persecution... something to do with having people nearby that would do nasty things to people that weren't nice to him. royal privilege i guess. (as for the original post... who the f*ck cares? i can count on the fingers of one fish the number of people that would leave 3 high slots empty on a pvp ship, and anyone that wants to do it in pve be my guest... it's not affecting anyone else so shrug*) If you dont care dont post?
Dahak2150 Chaos Monkeys Monkey Religion	Posted - 2007.11.15 11:45:00 - [19] Originally by: Horus Dark devblog: 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per Amarr BS level 2% bonus to stasis webifier velocity factor per Amarr BS level 7.5% bonus to armor repair amount per Marauder level 7.5% bonus to large energy turret tracking per Marauder level Role bonus: 100% bonus to large energy turret damage Role bonus: 100% bonus to range and velocity of tractor beams Hey, guess what! Things change. The tracking bonus is gone in favor of damage. ---------------- Originally by: "Cyberus" cause its has no sence anyway your brains is simply wont accept that anyway.
Doddy Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.11.15 11:55:00 - [20] Originally by: Shiodome Edited by: Shiodome on 15/11/2007 08:04:38 Quote: and for the nubbins that say who cares...... if you cant see the benefit in that then you are about as smart or tactically sound as a stump..... yes, because "LOL DPS!" shows much more tactical awareness than using those highs for remote repping, cap disruption, and ye know... general team work and fleet/gang tactics? Quote: edit: for a further example, lets say you have a tachyon sniping paladin which would pretty much be an awesome dps ship at sniping. what are you gonna fit in those other high slots that would be very useful at 170km's out? nothing that can equal out to an extra 15% dmg for the duration of the engagement. kk, you take your +dps sniping gang, and sit them 170km away from an equal sized snipe gang all remote repping the primary, see who lasts longer. If you are gonna do that, take your gang of normal bs remote repping and sit it 170k away from a gang of remote repping marauders. Seeing as marauders will be able to fit the remote reppers without losing any dps they are better in a remote repping gang too .... so in either remote repping gang or without remote repping marauder gets an edge, not saying its necessarily a big edge.
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2007.11.15 17:12:00 - [21] I just heard there is a new Radiator I high slot module. Looks like my idea is going work. Passive shield tanking guide click here
HarryManback Minmatar Gr0und Zer0	Posted - 2007.11.15 17:20:00 - [22] Originally by: Shiodome Edited by: Shiodome on 15/11/2007 08:04:38 Quote: and for the nubbins that say who cares...... if you cant see the benefit in that then you are about as smart or tactically sound as a stump..... yes, because "LOL DPS!" shows much more tactical awareness than using those highs for remote repping, cap disruption, and ye know... general team work and fleet/gang tactics? Quote: edit: for a further example, lets say you have a tachyon sniping paladin which would pretty much be an awesome dps ship at sniping. what are you gonna fit in those other high slots that would be very useful at 170km's out? nothing that can equal out to an extra 15% dmg for the duration of the engagement. kk, you take your +dps sniping gang, and sit them 170km away from an equal sized snipe gang all remote repping the primary, see who lasts longer. YES M8 THANK YOU SOMEONE WHO ISN'T A TOTAL NOOB. please check out my post. Marauders need more power. They cant even fit 4 guns, shield booster/dual armour reps and a cap booster. Amarr Recon/Electronics Attack Ship/almost Black Ops pilot for auction
HarryManback Minmatar Gr0und Zer0	Posted - 2007.11.15 17:21:00 - [23] Originally by: Doddy If you are gonna do that, take your gang of normal bs remote repping and sit it 170k away from a gang of remote repping marauders. Seeing as marauders will be able to fit the remote reppers without losing any dps they are better in a remote repping gang too .... so in either remote repping gang or without remote repping marauder gets an edge, not saying its necessarily a big edge. How can they fit remotes if they can't even fit their bare minimum. Amarr Recon/Electronics Attack Ship/almost Black Ops pilot for auction
d026 THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.15 17:23:00 - [24] Originally by: Pottsey As I understand it empty slots act as heat syncs letting you run overheated modules longer and that you can repair modules in space in the upcoming patch. Marauders only have half as many turrets so your already producing half as much heat. Take a Kronos fit 4 turrets, now leave the other 3 slots empty in-between the turrets. Half as much heat with extra heat reduction could mean you can leave your turrets overheating none stop with the lvl 5 skill. Or for a long time then you use the isk you save on using less ammo and put it towards fixing the turrets in space. i think nobody denies that marauders are good for pvp (and evenbetter considering heat). but overheating and PVE = not common and not realy needed imho..
HarryManback Minmatar Gr0und Zer0	Posted - 2007.11.15 17:25:00 - [25] i don't agree they will be good in pvp. LOOK AT THEIR DAMN POWER. lol its soo bad i wanna cry for them. Like a deformed child with some sort of chromosomal defect. The T1 BSes are already BETTER then them in pvp and pve. I have about 8 facts to prove it. Look at my post. Amarr Recon/Electronics Attack Ship/almost Black Ops pilot for auction
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2007.11.15 17:30:00 - [26] ôThe T1 BSes are already BETTER then them in pvp and pve. I have about 8 facts to prove it. Look at my post.ö I donÆt see how T1 BSÆs are better. The T2 mean faster missions, less ammo costs and you get the choice of more damage due to overheating and or more damage as T2 ammo is not cost effetive. Passive shield tanking guide click here
Exlegion Caldari New Light Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.15 17:34:00 - [27] Originally by: Pottsey I just heard there is a new Radiator I high slot module. Looks like my idea is going work. Nice thinking out of the box . There may be hope for the Marauders after all. If the devs were thinking about this all along, wow , nice curve ball there . But of course, it's all going to depend on what the costs of repairing mods in space is going to be like (resource-wise, time-wise, etc.) One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru
Exlegion Caldari New Light Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.15 17:45:00 - [28] By the way, where did you hear/find out about the Radiator I high slot mods? Can't find anything on that anywhere. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru
d026 THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.15 17:48:00 - [29] Edited by: d026 on 15/11/2007 17:49:30 Originally by: HarryManback i don't agree they will be good in pvp. LOOK AT THEIR DAMN POWER. lol its soo bad i wanna cry for them. Like a deformed child with some sort of chromosomal defect. The T1 BSes are already BETTER then them in pvp and pve. I have about 8 facts to prove it. Look at my post. so far my golem pwned every t1 bs on sis while tanking 3-4 of them at the same time. (+ 30 cap 800's in cargo ftw!). yeah they suck for pvp.. did you ever test them out? idoubt so because then you wouldn't complain. the only drawback ican tink about right now is that they gonna sell at carrier cost which makes them pointles. if they gonna sell for 3-400 mil tough you never see me in a raven again:)
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.11.15 18:04:00 - [30] Originally by: Horus Dark devblog: 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per Amarr BS level 2% bonus to stasis webifier velocity factor per Amarr BS level 7.5% bonus to armor repair amount per Marauder level 7.5% bonus to large energy turret tracking per Marauder level Role bonus: 100% bonus to large energy turret damage Role bonus: 100% bonus to range and velocity of tractor beams Do less forumwhoring more reading devblogs. +5% to damage/lvl instead of tracking. _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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