Tauranon
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.18 06:04:00 -
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 Originally by: Re Mi
I make my isk off of slothful, lazy, overworked and rich people, or various combinations thereof. They are far too lazy or busy to be bothered to fly to Jita, so they pay me.
By playing slothfully, with half an eye on the screen, in a weak ship with highly concentrated value, afk piloting or by multi-clienting and not generally paying attention.
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I fully realize they haul to carrier jump points. Thats why I stock certain nearby systems with goods. Often the prices aren't that much worse than Jita, and are well worth it for people to buy there rather than making the long haul. I think the trip to Jita is much easier for your alliance however, as there are Forge carrier jump points right near Jita that you have access too. Most other Alliances don't have that luxury.
Yes, your only true input to the economy is efficiency. By holding and moving goods for people that can do so less efficiently, you allow them to spend more time producing, which they do more efficiently than you. Which somehow makes them slothful in your estimation...
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As far as the haulers being killed, I am not referring to the hauls to drop points, those are targets as everyone who has hauled to them knows. I am referring to organized piracy much deeper within empire that affects whole regions that is sponsored by major alliances, not just the lowsec ganks near drop points which are expected, and if you scout at all, can prevent. You should care, it affects your supply alts the most. Some of what I believe is happening is that they look at what you are hauling and where you are hauling it first until they ID your alt by scanning you a few times. Sometimes the scan ships are lined up 2 or 3 at a gate on major trade routes. Then they turn your name over to pirates to mark red as a "juicy target", so that even if you don't have any cargo, you are still scanned and checked wherever you go. You lose freedom of movement, and are forced to rely on Concord, more scouting, warping to zero more heavily (which sucks if you are using alts).
Ganking haulers is a profitable excercise. Why would it need sponsorship? Why wouldn't highsec corps that wanted to kill stuff just do it - particularly when its going to be profitable. If I park my jinmei character in a belt and sit afk in a mining ship - I'm likely to be found/called a chinese macrofarmer and ganked. why should afk/autopilot haulers be given freedoms that aren't given to other pilots ?
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You do not own this animal, you do not control it, and it can just as easily be turned on you, as anyone else. In that regard, we have a common problem. In the end, all it does is make trade harder, which makes your life more difficult and more expensive. Alliances can make adjustments during a war, and get the supplies they need, ganking haulers makes it harder. The unfortunate part is that that area will take much longer to recover, and may never recover its economic base. Anyway, where do you think all that stuff in Jita comes from? It doesn't materialize out of thin air. People like me build it.
Much of the stuff in jita comes from primary producers who actually kill and mine stuff, and haul it there themselves. If there were less traders/trading, the average price paid for items may actually fall, as the traders margin has to be extracted from the goods in question.
Whether that would produce an overall more efficient economy is unlikely, but it would certainly function effectively without traders.
As far as an 0.0 alliance goes, esp one without a lowsec border, you moving things around in empire is not solving the fundamental logistics issue in getting things to the alliance territory. If they have to solve moving it around in highsec as well, they do.
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