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Exyn
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.11.18 20:02:00 -
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I've read some articles on the internet, and seen some shows on TV about the world ending in 2012.
There only proof to back this up is "Some old philosopher said so," and "People that worshipped the sun said so too." How could it possibly end?
There is no asteroid on a collision course for earth in 2012... maybe Yellowstone will explode or something.
I honestly don't know, because I don't believe in the whole 2012 theory, but do you? And what do you think may happen?
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.11.18 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Exyn I've read some articles on the internet, and seen some shows on TV about the world ending in 2012.
There only proof to back this up is "Some old philosopher said so," and "People that worshipped the sun said so too." How could it possibly end?
There is no asteroid on a collision course for earth in 2012... maybe Yellowstone will explode or something.
I honestly don't know, because I don't believe in the whole 2012 theory, but do you? And what do you think may happen?
what calender you useing?
the jewish?
the islamic?
the christian?
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Wild Rho
Amarr GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.11.18 20:12:00 -
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Come 2012 I gurrantee they'll have a new date set for armageddon.
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.18 20:14:00 -
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New years day, 2013 ---
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Exyn
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.11.18 20:15:00 -
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I edited the post at the bottom, i'm using the Christian calendar. ------------------------------------------------------ U tijdverspilling vertalen van Nederlandse tekst. |
Exyn
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.11.18 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 New years day, 2013
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.18 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Exyn
Originally by: lofty29 New years day, 2013
okay...?
It was in response to Rho's post ---
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Wild Rho
Amarr GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.11.18 20:18:00 -
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Edited by: Wild Rho on 18/11/2007 20:18:22 Lofty is an optimist.
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Exyn
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.11.18 20:18:00 -
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.18 20:19:00 -
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Hehe, optimist ---
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Theiron Bostrum
Minmatar Bishops Finger Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.18 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: Theiron Bostrum on 18/11/2007 20:25:23 From all those Mayan prophecies type books IIRC that date in December 2012 is when the earths magnetic field is supposed to cease (briefly) then flip round. As the poles switch every so often anyway I guess we'll survive like we did last time. Although Yellowstone park going off won't be very pleasant for anyone and that's rather overdue...
Edit: typo, orginally said earths magentic field instead of magnetic. Can't see any reason why a manky website offering wallpapers & screensavers would constitute a field unless they were planning on printing a supersized desktop wallpaper to cover the ozone layer.
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Terail Zoqial
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Posted - 2007.11.18 20:21:00 -
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meh, the world/humanity has meant to have ended a few times already. It's not going to happen for quite a while yet unfortunately.
Transmigration ftw!
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Exyn
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.11.18 20:29:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich
Cynical Cartel
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Posted - 2007.11.18 20:35:00 -
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One of the 2012 theories is planet X (discussed here a while back). According to the tin hat files planet X is actually a brown dwarf that cannot be seen by the naked eye, except in the evening amazingly enough. One of the website links that our tin hat expert gave us talked about planet X and according to the website is was supposidly here in 2003, 2004, 2006, and scheduled again for 2008 (guess the tin foil tell tale end of world signs aren't fullproof).
The story is that the brown dwarf is hiding behind the sun and in 2012 it will come around and come close to earths orbit switching our polarities around and destroying the world more or less.
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das licht
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.11.18 20:43:00 -
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Yes, 2012 will be the year when the Flying Spaghetti Monster arrives.
Monster Link
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.11.18 20:44:00 -
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The apocalypse has been canceled due to lack of interest. -
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Scorpyn
Caldari Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.11.18 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich One of the 2012 theories is planet X (discussed here a while back). According to the tin hat files planet X is actually a brown dwarf that cannot be seen by the naked eye, except in the evening amazingly enough. One of the website links that our tin hat expert gave us talked about planet X and according to the website is was supposidly here in 2003, 2004, 2006, and scheduled again for 2008 (guess the tin foil tell tale end of world signs aren't fullproof).
The story is that the brown dwarf is hiding behind the sun and in 2012 it will come around and come close to earths orbit switching our polarities around and destroying the world more or less.
This 2012 thingy is getting weirder every time I read about it...
Anyway, the reason why it started in the first place is because 2012 is when the mayan calendar ends. Supposedly this is because the age is ending and another one starting, not because it'll be the end of the earth.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.11.18 20:51:00 -
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End of the world prophecies have been around for ages. So far they have all been wrong. No reason to think this is any different but presumably one of these days Yellowstone will explode or a large asteroid will whomp the earth and then one of those doomsayers will crow about being right. Of course, their happiness at being correct will be short lived.
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Tamulan
A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.11.18 21:07:00 -
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I need to find my tinfoil hat... _________________________________________
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.11.18 21:08:00 -
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Tuesday, that is all. --------------------------------------------
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.11.18 21:15:00 -
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Can you link one of these articles? ----- "Why can't you just be friends?" -- Oveur |
ReaperOfSly
Gallente Lyrus Associates Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2007.11.18 22:05:00 -
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The planet X theory has been thoroughly debunked. A brown dwarf star would be brighter than the moon even if it was in the far off solar system, so unless you can actually see it, there's nothing to fret over.
The mayans never claimed that the world would end in 2012 anyway. Just that the world would undergo a big change. And given that the mayans were confined pretty much to South America, it's reasonable to assume that's where the meteor will hit. The rest of the world will be fine.
Anyway the truth of the matter is that the world already ended at 11:59:59 on December 31st 1999 but everyone was too drunk to notice. --------------------------------------------------------------------
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.18 22:09:00 -
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the world ended last year
we just don't know it yet because of lag
Originally by: Cecil Montague They should change that warning on entering low sec to:
"Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
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Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.18 22:10:00 -
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If anything world changing happens in 2012, i hope it's like Shadowrun :D
EVE History Wiki
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.11.18 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Anyway the truth of the matter is that the world already ended at 11:59:59 on December 31st 1999 but everyone was too drunk to notice.
I don't remember that!
Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking
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Asimov Andies
Gallente Coalition of Nations Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.11.18 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Reiisha If anything world changing happens in 2012, i hope it's like Shadowrun :D
OMG that would be so awesome... unless I turn into a big troll, then I will blame you and use my big trollyness to hunt you down and curse you.
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NightHaunter
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.11.18 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich One of the 2012 theories is planet X (discussed here a while back). According to the tin hat files planet X is actually a brown dwarf that cannot be seen by the naked eye, except in the evening amazingly enough. One of the website links that our tin hat expert gave us talked about planet X and according to the website is was supposidly here in 2003, 2004, 2006, and scheduled again for 2008 (guess the tin foil tell tale end of world signs aren't fullproof).
The story is that the brown dwarf is hiding behind the sun and in 2012 it will come around and come close to earths orbit switching our polarities around and destroying the world more or less.
Sounds like a ******** spinoff of the Nemesis Star Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_%28star%29
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2007.11.18 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: LUH 3471 on 18/11/2007 22:52:25 i heard 2012 aliens will land on earth and take all our women and cows to breed a new race of superhumancows
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.11.18 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: LUH 3471 Edited by: LUH 3471 on 18/11/2007 22:52:25 i heard 2012 aliens will land on earth and take all our women and cows to breed a new race of superhumancows
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SeismicForce
Clear Horizon Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.18 23:02:00 -
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If it does end on the 31st of December 2012, at least it will be painless as we'll all be drunk
Originally by: Allisie In a recent interview, a dev mentioned that ships and skills cause lag and will be removed in EVE 2.
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Flamewave
Crimson Moon Society
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Posted - 2007.11.18 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich The story is that the brown dwarf is hiding behind the sun and in 2012...
I couldn't help myself. __________
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Benny Hill
Caldari Deceased Inc
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Posted - 2007.11.18 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich One of the 2012 theories is planet X (discussed here a while back). According to the tin hat files planet X is actually a brown dwarf that cannot be seen by the naked eye, except in the evening amazingly enough. One of the website links that our tin hat expert gave us talked about planet X and according to the website is was supposidly here in 2003, 2004, 2006, and scheduled again for 2008 (guess the tin foil tell tale end of world signs aren't fullproof).
The story is that the brown dwarf is hiding behind the sun and in 2012 it will come around and come close to earths orbit switching our polarities around and destroying the world more or less.
This 2012 thingy is getting weirder every time I read about it...
Anyway, the reason why it started in the first place is because 2012 is when the mayan calendar ends. Supposedly this is because the age is ending and another one starting, not because it'll be the end of the earth.
Maybe the guy that chiseled rock out, thought, "This is stupid. I'm done with this after 2012." |
LUH 3471
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Posted - 2007.11.18 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Benny Hill
Originally by: Scorpyn
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich One of the 2012 theories is planet X (discussed here a while back). According to the tin hat files planet X is actually a brown dwarf that cannot be seen by the naked eye, except in the evening amazingly enough. One of the website links that our tin hat expert gave us talked about planet X and according to the website is was supposidly here in 2003, 2004, 2006, and scheduled again for 2008 (guess the tin foil tell tale end of world signs aren't fullproof).
The story is that the brown dwarf is hiding behind the sun and in 2012 it will come around and come close to earths orbit switching our polarities around and destroying the world more or less.
This 2012 thingy is getting weirder every time I read about it...
Anyway, the reason why it started in the first place is because 2012 is when the mayan calendar ends. Supposedly this is because the age is ending and another one starting, not because it'll be the end of the earth.
Maybe the guy that chiseled rock out, thought, "This is stupid. I'm done with this after 2012."
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Arvald
Caldari Sten Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.19 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: das licht Yes, 2012 will be the year when the Flying Spaghetti Monster arrives.
Monster Link
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.11.19 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 19/11/2007 00:33:17 I wanna be touched be his noodly appendage
*Edit* Hey, is that art or ****? Did the guy get a gov't grant?
Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking
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Abbey mooree
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Posted - 2007.11.19 00:45:00 -
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The latest theory I heard is that sometime in late December of 2012 the earth will be directly between the sun and the black hole at the center of the galaxy. Some people think this will cause a gravity distortion to the planet or cause the magnetic poles to flip which may or may not cause the crust to flip too. |
Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2007.11.19 00:59:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Mei on 19/11/2007 00:59:25
Originally by: Abbey mooree The latest theory I heard is that sometime in late December of 2012 the earth will be directly between the sun and the black hole at the center of the galaxy. Some people think this will cause a gravity distortion to the planet or cause the magnetic poles to flip which may or may not cause the crust to flip too.
When you consider how strong the galactic blackhole has to be to hold the entire galxay togeather you serously cant believe that alignment would need to be so exact to cause any affect on the planet.
You know what would be funny though, is if the myians werent kidding themselves and figured that by the time their calander ran out no one would still be using it so they decided stop right there. Until a group of crediable sientists say we're dead in 2012 il plan my trip to vegas for Jan 1 2013.
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Ione Hunt
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.11.19 01:03:00 -
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Yes, the world will temporarily end...CCPs planning an extended 1 week downtime (!!) in 2012.
No one can predict what wlll happen to its thousands of subscribers, they're fate is written in the stars _______________
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Frygok
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.11.19 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Flamewave
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich The story is that the brown dwarf is hiding behind the sun and in 2012...
I couldn't help myself.
THE ****** JUST DE-CLOAKED!
NERF!
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Tamriliin
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Posted - 2007.11.19 17:01:00 -
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I'm tired of hearing about this, honestly.
Just because the Mayan calendar ends in December 2012 doesn't mean anything, other than that the Mayans couldn't predict the future to infinity.
It's all based on random conjecture, speculation, and hearsay. That's all.
Oh, and paranoia too. Can't forget the conspiracists.
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Buxaroo
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.19 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme the world ended last year
we just don't know it yet because of lag
But end of the world stories have been around sense man first sat at a camp fire. Nothing new. And they are all wrong, have always been wrong, and will always be wrong.
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das licht
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.11.19 18:58:00 -
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I try again.
2012 = 2+0+1+2 = 5 5 stands for S S means Sun
2012 will be a sunny year!
Good enough?
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CCP Mindstar
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Posted - 2007.11.19 19:21:00 -
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2012
20+1+2 = 23
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Gwav Argas
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Posted - 2007.11.19 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: Gwav Argas on 19/11/2007 19:41:43 bookmark this page: http://qntm.org/destroy#Current%20Earth-Destruction%20Status should the world end you'll be in the know.
As it is the dec 28th 2012 thing is when the great cycle ends, it's an extremely accurate time measurement system the largest wheel of which completes its full cycle on the afforementioned date. Originally created and used by one of the native american civilisations, which one I can't remember. though if you believe it represents the end of the world then I guess you're also open to the idea that they didn't invent it they were just given that time measurement system by aliens or something...
I don't really care much for the idea that that is when the world will end. I have a clock on my wall the largest hand of which will complete it's cycle at midnight tonight, thus that must be when the world is ending...
Also regarding the world ending people tend to confuse the world ending with humans becoming extinct. I don't care much for prophecies and whatnot but would like to point out the the earth ending and humans ending are two different concepts. in a lot of end time stories the earth is still here after the apocalyptic events have occurred.
EDIT: Dec 21st 2012 not dec 28th, here's the wiki bit on it: "December 21 ù The Mesoamerican Long Count calendar, notably used by the Maya civilization among others of pre-Columbian Mesoamerica, completes its thirteenth b'ak'tun cycle since the calendar's mythical starting point (equivalent to 3114 BC August 11 in the proleptic Gregorian calendar, according to the "GMT-correlation" JDN= 584283).[7] The Long Count b'ak'tun date of this starting point (13.0.0.0.0) is repeated, for the first time in a span of approximately 5,125 solar years. The significance of this period-ending to the pre-Columbian Maya themselves is unclear, and there is an incomplete inscription (Tortuguero Stela 6) that records this date. It is also to be found carved on the walls of the Temple of Inscriptions in Palenque, where it functions as a base date from which other dates are computed.[8] However, it is conjectured that this may represent in the Maya belief system a transition from the current Creation world into the next. The December solstice for 2012 also occurs on this day. Astronomically, the Earth is said to be aligned facing the center of the Milky Way behind the Sun on this date."
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Rutoo
Gallente Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.19 20:13:00 -
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For those X-Files Fans out there. December 23rd 2012 is the date of the alien invasion. _________________________________________________________ My Second EvE Video Club Seals Not Sandwichs
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Chr0nosX
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.19 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Chr0nosX on 19/11/2007 20:18:12 The switching of Earth's polarities will not destory the world. The "use" of the Earth's magnetic field is to stop cosmic rays reaching us. If cosmic rays did reach us it would not destroy the world but double the amount of radiation reaching us by two. Maybe a few more cancer cases a year - anyway I doubt the poles will reverse. The magnetic field getting completely detroyed though - that would be bad but flipping no (we would even get to see the Northern Lights everywhere).
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Micheal Dietrich
Cynical Cartel
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Posted - 2007.11.19 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Rutoo For those X-Files Fans out there. December 23rd 2012 is the date of the alien invasion.
Sweet, so we'll take em with us on the 29th.
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Regat Kozovv
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.11.19 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Mindstar 2012
20+1+2 = 23
Oh dear, not that movie...
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.11.19 20:50:00 -
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2112?
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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The Truckdriver
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.11.19 21:28:00 -
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The galaxy will be shut down on december 31 2012 for general maintaince.
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The Truckdriver
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.11.19 21:29:00 -
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Searching for phrophet yields the same dat in some cases, many phrophets have predicted the end of the world.
Fact is most of them are dead anyway, and the world is still spinning around the sun.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.19 23:58:00 -
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2012? That'll be a lucky escape. Will save us the embarrassment of all those nice athletes turning up to London and finding the stadium half built... ------
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.20 02:43:00 -
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One thing few people realise is that there are around 18 Mayan/Aztec etc calendars around. There is a dispute on the end date of the current Mayan calendar depending on how you work it out so the end date is 22nd or 23rd of 2012.
The other calendars have been theorised as existing prior to the current Mayan calendar. The author of the Mayan Factor Dr Jose Arguelles has theorised that nearing the end of the calendar would be a change in human thinking (putting it simply).
There are theories on the earth's magnetic field diminishing and realigning to opposite poles but my research shows that magnetic field effects happen over a very long period of time. I understand this could be in the order of 10,000 to 100,000 years.
Lots of theories but not the end of the world.
Random information: The largest single Mayan counting unit is in the order of 40 million years and is approximately the time for the milky way to go through one cycle. The smallest unit of time from the Vedas is around 1/300,000,000th of a second at which only nuclear reactions occur in that timescale.
We almost won. [ 2007.11.17 08:26:19 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 150mm Railgun II places an excellent hit on Shrike [EVOL]<BOB>(Avatar), inflicting 41.4 damage. |
Arvald
Caldari Sten Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.20 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Devian 666 One thing few people realise is that there are around 18 Mayan/Aztec etc calendars around. There is a dispute on the end date of the current Mayan calendar depending on how you work it out so the end date is 22nd or 23rd of 2012.
The other calendars have been theorised as existing prior to the current Mayan calendar. The author of the Mayan Factor Dr Jose Arguelles has theorised that nearing the end of the calendar would be a change in human thinking (putting it simply).
There are theories on the earth's magnetic field diminishing and realigning to opposite poles but my research shows that magnetic field effects happen over a very long period of time. I understand this could be in the order of 10,000 to 100,000 years.
Lots of theories but not the end of the world.
Random information: The largest single Mayan counting unit is in the order of 40 million years and is approximately the time for the milky way to go through one cycle. The smallest unit of time from the Vedas is around 1/300,000,000th of a second at which only nuclear reactions occur in that timescale.
wow they were smart as hell for a civilization that did not even have microwave pizzas --------------------------- Im in your forums derailing your threads
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pwnedgato
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Posted - 2007.11.20 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald
wow they were smart as hell for a civilization that did not even have microwave pizzas
What do you mean that is the measure of all civilizations. Microwave Pizza? no? then STFU. I'd like a real sig feel free to share ideas on one. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.11.20 04:46:00 -
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You not a civilization unless you got microwave pizzas... the palistinians don't have microwave pizzas and look what they do
Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking
Weekly The Tick quote... "I can't lose my name! It's on all my stationary!!" ~The Tick |
Arvald
Caldari Sten Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.20 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny You not a civilization unless you got microwave pizzas... the palistinians don't have microwave pizzas and look what they do
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Arvald
Caldari Sten Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.20 04:53:00 -
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Originally by: pwnedgato
Originally by: Arvald
wow they were smart as hell for a civilization that did not even have microwave pizzas
What do you mean that is the measure of all civilizations. Microwave Pizza? no? then STFU.
i love how people on this forum take everything so seriously --------------------------- Im in your forums derailing your threads
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.11.20 05:02:00 -
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That's what makes them fun to troll... you gotta find the topics people take seriously and throw a wrench into them
Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking
Weekly The Tick quote... "I can't lose my name! It's on all my stationary!!" ~The Tick |
Dave White
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.20 09:21:00 -
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If you read this on the internet, it's probably true.
Originally by: GM Tacgnol Oveur descended from the heavens (also known as the second floor) and beat us all with his nerfbat. |
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Zeonos
Amarr Fairtrade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.20 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: Zeonos on 20/11/2007 09:35:45 well. more eve until the end. cya there guys.
Look I Hijacked a sig!! -Kaemonn <3 Kaemonn -Zeonos A sunset with Kaemonn... how nice... -Wachtmeister In Eve-Online Forum Hijack Signature! -Ivan K This space is reserved for moderator hijacking, Need more colors! Red & Yellow & Pink & Green, Orange & Purple & ME! - Deckard My yellow pwns Deckard's fruity rainbow thingie anyday. BRING IT BABY! -Hango Black and pink 4tw however gold pwns -Eldo
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RetributionBitch01
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Posted - 2007.11.20 12:45:00 -
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Fact: the earth is getting warmer ,as it has been since the dawn of the industrial age. Fact: according to climate experts the glaciers in Alaska,Greenland and the Antartic are melting faster than predicted. Fact: Eruptions release greenhouse gases,many large volcanoes/calderas are long overdue to become active. Fact: there is a live volcano in Antartica under the ice sheet. Fact: sun spots have been coupled with increased solar radiation. Fact: if the seas/oceans rose just 20 meters/66feet it would wipe out over 50% of the world population's living areas,and lead to war as countries scrambled for the remaining livable areas. so is it possible that 2012 maybe the end of the world as we know it,just might be. You can make your decision
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Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.20 14:05:00 -
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Top 10 ways to destroy earth
In 2012 the world will not end, it will begin. We're now in beta which is obvious from all the ****** up and incomplete features.
And to be honest, the human race should whine more on the grande forums of life because clearly the other races are getting much better ships. We're like the amarr of the universe. ---
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Rana Ash
Minmatar Aeon Trinity
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Posted - 2007.11.20 14:08:00 -
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So during all these years, not one of these mayan calander belivers. Has ever considerd that the ones translating it may have made mistakes?, or that they ones doing the calander did as suggested before. Just said "aww to hell with this i am taking the day off"
Or is it a requirment for all judgement day/ end of earth belivers to take everything at face value?..
¦on Trinity is recruting, inquire within for details lyret dedreen
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Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.20 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Rana Ash
Or is it a requirment for all judgement day/ end of earth belivers to take everything at face value?..
Buying judgment day is of little difficulty for someone who believes that a cosmic jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree; or some similar theism. ---
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Logi3
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.20 14:46:00 -
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If you read it up properly all that happens is that the mayen calender stops at the date in Dec 2012... Thats it
Everyone is speculating from there on
Brown Dwarfs, all the plants align and cause something with the gravity, Magnetic field swaps etc etc
earth hasnt been warming up since the Industrial age, its being warming up since the bloody Ice age.
Theres been times when southern england could grow grapes and enjoy weather like france, then there were times when the Thames would freeze over.
There not enough history on the weather to honestly say whats going on, its a fact that all the animals and plants on earth cause more damage to earth the all the cars etc ----
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7shining7one7
Quafe Paladins
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Posted - 2007.11.20 15:37:00 -
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 20/11/2007 15:40:48
Originally by: Jin Entres
Originally by: Rana Ash
Or is it a requirment for all judgement day/ end of earth belivers to take everything at face value?..
Buying judgment day is of little difficulty for someone who believes that a cosmic jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree; or some similar theism.
eating the flesh and drinking the blood of jesus in effigy is invented by the catholic church/other churches and distorts the word of the holy one. it is not what john 6:51 says.. it is an invention of especially catholic church showing it's misunderstanding of the words of the holy one. he was not his own father he was the first human avatar of the holy one on earth that had the father and showed all that all were holy (let the love shine through him from the holy one, equal love for all). your country and your lineage makes no difference either for the holy one as is clear too by scripture.
45:010:012 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
as for the rest of that you say i refer to this
peace
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Hachun K'ar
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Posted - 2007.11.20 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Logi3 If you read it up properly all that happens is that the mayen calender stops at the date in Dec 2012... Thats it
Everyone is speculating from there on
Brown Dwarfs, all the plants align and cause something with the gravity, Magnetic field swaps etc etc
earth hasnt been warming up since the Industrial age, its being warming up since the bloody Ice age.
Theres been times when southern england could grow grapes and enjoy weather like france, then there were times when the Thames would freeze over.
There not enough history on the weather to honestly say whats going on, its a fact that all the animals and plants on earth cause more damage to earth the all the cars etc
You're right. Most of this "Global Warming" is complete *******s. The Earth has heated up and cooled down ever since it started/was created/formed (whatever you believe in). I believe in the late 60's/70's there was a big "Global Cooling" campaign.
It's a vicious cycle, probably to boost the recycling industry or something to take our money away.
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Liivia
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Posted - 2007.11.20 16:27:00 -
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Lets try to remember also that the Maya managed to over farm, deforest and over hunt their inhabited regions to the point that they collapsed and "disappeared".
If they were so smart as to predict the future, don't you think they could have avoided wiping themselves out?
Oh and some dumb ass said they were from South America. Try again.
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Rana Ash
Minmatar Aeon Trinity
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Posted - 2007.11.20 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Liivia Oh and some dumb ass said they were from South America. Try again.
I think it was central america, close to mexico Map Linkage
And they never dissapeard, they just faded into the background.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Lyrus Associates Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2007.11.20 18:49:00 -
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Well I got about a half dozen doomsday devices stashed away in my shed. I can set one off in 2012 if you like... --------------------------------------------------------------------
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Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.20 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 20/11/2007 15:50:02
Originally by: Jin Entres
Originally by: Rana Ash
Or is it a requirment for all judgement day/ end of earth belivers to take everything at face value?..
Buying judgment day is of little difficulty for someone who believes that a cosmic jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree; or some similar theism.
eating the flesh and drinking the blood of jesus in effigy is invented by the catholic church/other churches and distorts the word of the holy one. it is not what john 6:51 says.. it is an invention of especially catholic church showing it's misunderstanding of the words of the holy one. he was not his own father he was the first human avatar of the holy one on earth that had the father/holy one in him, and showed through that, that that all were holy (let the love shine through him from the holy one, equal love for all). your country and your lineage makes no difference either for the holy one as is clear too by scripture.
45:010:012 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
as for the rest of that you say i refer to this
peace
Ok how about this:
The majority of the inhabitants of the small, insignificant dot we know as earth believe that there is a personal creator of the universe who is concerned with what our species does and has established a celestial dictatorship by appearing to a few people in the east 2000 years ago and dictating a number of rules that are supposed to constitute the pillars of morality.
Even though this sky-fairy is apparently both omniscient and omnipotent (which, by the way, is impossible) and has a 'divine plan', its followers are supposed to constantly offer prayers in attempts to call for divine favors to further their personal agendas. Followers of these delusions known as 'the abrahamic trio of doom' are lured by an invisible ultimate promise of eternal happiness ('heaven') and intimidated by the equally naive concept of eternal punishment ('hell').
The culture of these people is laden with guilt that they believe to have born into, aswell as anxiety over sexuality. They promote opposition to science and scientific advances, oppression of the female sex and intolerance to name a few. Many of them also break their divine mandate in (mass)murder-suicide known as martyrdom.
So, it is not so farfetched in my view for such people to accept that a mushroom cloud has a silver lining that spells the arrival of 'paradise' and 'salvation' aswell as 'damnation' for those who tried to live their lives without these absurd beliefs and behavioural control. ---
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Anwylyd Al'Vos
Minmatar LightSpeed Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.20 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Mindstar 2012
20+1+2 = 23
lol... 'nuff said _ . - Justice, Mercy, and Faith My soul has horizons further away than those of early mornings, deeper darkness than the night |
Mtthias Clemi
Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.11.20 20:40:00 -
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Thank you.
I am a confirmed Catholic. I am extremely interested in, and accept the findings of science. I would never hold back scientific advancement because of my religion.
Dont generalize, it makes you look arrogant, stupid and foolish.
The world will not end in 2012.
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7shining7one7
Quafe Paladins
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Posted - 2007.11.20 20:43:00 -
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 20/11/2007 20:47:54 i understand your perspectives
the avatar of the holy one taught to love all equally and of the potentials that were to come because of the things you have allready read in what i referred to in the previous post.
the churches have both misunderstood and twisted the words of the holy one in their preachings, yet read it for yourself (kjv) and you shall see the annointment, understand that you are holy and have the father, and let love teach you of all things so that no man can decieve you, as the holy one said.
the followers have commited great attrocities in their glaring misinterpretations among other things the concept of hell and judging and other things. yet you judge the followers rather than the words themselves.
as i gave you as an example before, the holy one said that he had sacrificed the avatar and raised him from the dead and show us that there was no need to be afraid, that we had eternal life. and that all we had to do to remember and know this was to follow love equal love, and love all for all was holy, and let this love teach us of all things, and that we were all holy and equal.
and what do the church do with these words of the holy one? they interpret it as if they eat his flesh then they get eternal life, and since they don't have his flesh, they eat him in effigy in the churches.
the holy one says you can have personal lordship so you can read the words for yourself, and understand the annointment, and let the love teach you of all things so that you cannot be decieved. Doing this also avoids that if the church becomes corrupt as the holy one foresaw, then you would not be decieved. yet what has happened.. the church still offers "the body of christ" in effigy, along with the rest of it's glaring misinterpretations. And many of the followers do not read the words of the holy one for themselves so they believe the preachers on their word. which creates atheists and hatred for the false teachings of the churches.
the holy one says also that pride jealousy, superiorty and such things are not of the holy one, for all is equal and the holy one is ever praising the holy son and the holy spirit, the body is the temple of the holy one that he shineth through if you were to listen. You have completely free will because the holy one loves you. the holy one says concede to men of low estate, so you are not higher or lower than others, so that you do not be seduced by pride and jealousy or feel that you are somehow better, or more deserving than others, for then you shineth not the light of the holy one.
and also the words of the holy one does not condemn science, it merely says all is holy so that you should apply science with this in mind, so if you scoff that you do not have the holy ones acceptance when you use a lab monkey to test some perfume, then you will understand that if you understand to love all and shine the light of the holy one. yet you have free will and he does not intervene when you do, also judgement day is not at all what you think it is, have you not read what i referred to?
yet you condemn the holy one because many of those who purport to follow him are themselves lost, not listening to the words of them and following equal love to know all things.
and why is this then being totally misunderstood, and what's the cause of it besides normal misunderstandings? i refer to this
may the love of the holy one shine its light upon the shadows making them dissapear!
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Battleclash
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Posted - 2007.11.20 20:54:00 -
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Quote: the holy one says also that pride jealousy, superiorty and such things are not of the holy one, for all is equal
Well that sentence there just removed almost every religion. Got to love budhist monks though, they're extremely laid back people.
Oh and bud, may wanna lay off the sugar in the morning.
Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Stupidity is universal.
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7shining7one7
Quafe Paladins
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Posted - 2007.11.20 20:59:00 -
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Nope, it's right there in the bible! you don't hear the preachers tossing it out much, but that doesn't mean it isn't there!
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Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.20 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mtthias Clemi Thank you.
I am a confirmed Catholic. I am extremely interested in, and accept the findings of science. I would never hold back scientific advancement because of my religion.
Dont generalize, it makes you look arrogant, stupid and foolish.
You may betray the holy book you claim subservience to but moderate belief gives cover for extremism and fundamentalism by upkeeping the special priviledges of religion, the taboo of criticising them and the social atmosphere of respecting beliefs that lack foundation in reason and evidence.
If 99% of the believers were like you, we would have no problem. But they aren't. Stem-cell research is not being funded in the United States due to religious concerns over 'souls in embryos'. Catholic missionaries preach the sinfulness of condom use in subsaharran Africa where millions die of AIDS every year. You protect the justifications for those actions.
Many believers portray their personal benign sort of belief as a straw-man to protect religion in general and all the absurdities that are believed in under it. I hope you're not one of them. On the subject, I recommend this speech by Sam Harris.
Sevenshiningsevenoneseven, I advise you to watch Who Wrote The Bible?, a documentary made by a theologian. You may have to admit that the bible is untrustworthy as a source of information, much less as a basis for morality. It is both historically (for example there are no certain extrabiblical accounts of the life of Jesus) and internally inconsistent (accounts are conflicting, much has been selectively discarded and modified during the ages etc.) Everything in it points to its man-made quality.
I could also ask why Jesus and not one of the other hundreds of prophets that lived at the time? Your true saviour could be forgotten while an impostor enjoys your blind worship. Many prophets allegedly performed miracles, several even today, believed in by thousands of eye-witnesses. Why gives Jesus more credibility?
The God of the Old Testament is (quoting Richard Dawkins) "arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." To read the bible and retain faith is a feat in itself since you have to cherry pick so much: which parts are metaphor, which are the literal truth, why is Jesus conflicting himself, why is God so cruel, why does God condone slavery etc.
It has also been argued well that the abrahamic religions are an astrotheological literary hybrid based on the ancient worship of the sun (see here).
"The Christian religion and Masonry have one and the same common origin: Both are derived from the worship of the Sun. The difference between their origin is, that the Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun." ~ Thomas Paine
I hope I've made my point. ---
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Sainna
Minmatar Siorai Iontach Brotherhood of the Spider
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Posted - 2007.11.20 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Entres
Originally by: Mtthias Clemi Thank you.
I am a confirmed Catholic. I am extremely interested in, and accept the findings of science. I would never hold back scientific advancement because of my religion.
Dont generalize, it makes you look arrogant, stupid and foolish.
You may betray the holy book you claim subservience to but moderate belief gives cover for extremism and fundamentalism by upkeeping the special priviledges of religion, the taboo of criticising them and the social atmosphere of respecting beliefs that lack foundation in reason and evidence.
If 99% of the believers were like you, we would have no problem. But they aren't. Stem-cell research is not being funded in the United States due to religious concerns over 'souls in embryos'. Catholic missionaries preach the sinfulness of condom use in subsaharran Africa where millions die of AIDS every year. You protect the justifications for those actions.
Many believers portray their personal benign sort of belief as a straw-man to protect religion in general and all the absurdities that are believed in under it. I hope you're not one of them. On the subject, I recommend this speech by Sam Harris.
Sevenshiningsevenoneseven, I advise you to watch Who Wrote The Bible?, a documentary made by a theologian. You may have to admit that the bible is untrustworthy as a source of information, much less as a basis for morality. It is both historically (for example there are no certain extrabiblical accounts of the life of Jesus) and internally inconsistent (accounts are conflicting, much has been selectively discarded and modified during the ages etc.) Everything in it points to its man-made quality.
I could also ask why Jesus and not one of the other hundreds of prophets that lived at the time? Your true saviour could be forgotten while an impostor enjoys your blind worship. Many prophets allegedly performed miracles, several even today, believed in by thousands of eye-witnesses. Why gives Jesus more credibility?
The God of the Old Testament is (quoting Richard Dawkins) "arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." To read the bible and retain faith is a feat in itself since you have to cherry pick so much: which parts are metaphor, which are the literal truth, why is Jesus conflicting himself, why is God so cruel, why does God condone slavery etc.
It has also been argued well that the abrahamic religions are an astrotheological literary hybrid based on the ancient worship of the sun (see here).
"The Christian religion and Masonry have one and the same common origin: Both are derived from the worship of the Sun. The difference between their origin is, that the Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun." ~ Thomas Paine
I hope I've made my point.
I think this thread was meant to be about the "End of the World", not about bashing religious beliefs. I think a lock or edit would be needed at this point.
IMO, the world will go away whenever the time comes; be it tomorrow or 1000 years from now. No one knows, so it is my belief to be ready all the time.
--- Recruitment Thread
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.11.20 21:57:00 -
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Your saying that i defend what extreme catholics do?
Thats true in the same way that all Americans defend the war in Iraq, simply by being Americans.
Ive never defended catholics who try to prevent safe sex, ive never defended catholics who would prevent research because of their beliefs.
I do understand how someone wouldn't want research done on embryos or want them used for anything but becoming a living creature due to moral issues. People who dont want them researched or used for research believe it because they see it as the prevention of an individual life, even if it is to the benefit of others, and they see it as wrong.
What i said was, don't generalize. Because its wrong to do it, and you know it is. Your obviously an intelligent person, but you seem to think that herding me and many people i know into a group because we share their faith is acceptable. It isn't. Dont do it. --------------------------------------------
THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! |
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Battleclash
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Posted - 2007.11.20 22:00:00 -
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Well the sugar induced religious freaks have taken over 2 tin foil hattery threads thus far.
Me thinks they're getting ready to reveal our snake headed overlords to us.
Hey, religion is how I would take over the world.
Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Stupidity is universal.
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Zothike
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.20 22:10:00 -
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by 2012 ccp will have released for a while planetary interaction then i will be ok to die under the attack of evil tomatoes from outer space
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Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.20 22:12:00 -
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Mtthis Clemi, I do not accuse you or similarly moderate believers of what extremists or fundamentalists do, but I'm trying to get you to realise that you are providing cover for them. Without you, they could not do what they do. Religion is the best excuse for unsubstantiated opinions that must be respected automatically. Appeal to faith is a conversation killer.
I agree with Sainna that this is starting to go off-topic so I won't discuss the stem-cell issue further, but if you have the time, please watch the speech I linked in my previous post. Given the religious nature of most apocalyptic prophecies, I don't think my posts have been too far off the topic and ask that they not be removed, but now back to the regularly scheduled program. If any of you wants to continue the discussion, you're free to evemail me. ---
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7shining7one7
Quafe Paladins
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Posted - 2007.11.20 22:21:00 -
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 20/11/2007 22:33:22
Originally by: Jin Entres stuff
Well where do i begin holy son! first off, have you EVER read the bible for yourself?
do not put me in the same box as catholics or other churches you do not like, since especially the catholic church do not follow the word of the holy one. they misinterpret it and twist it and do not hide that they have used this to gain power over kings in the past and boast about it! they also worship the pope as if he is an avatar, yet he lies and misunderstands the word of the holy one on a daily basis! hipocrit and liar he is! i pray that all catholics may find personal lordship and find the words of the holy one for themselves, and recieve the annointment and let love teach them of all things.
secondly, the avatar never said worship him, he said he was one with the father, he was the alpha and omega beginning and the end, he was shining the holy one through him.
And what do the followers then do later, they turn and worship the man as if he was this super special guy and others were not.. instead of what he actually told them.. that all was holy, no idols etc. cause we were all the temple of the living god. and also "For verily i say to ye, ye are all gods is it not in your laws?"
And what of the movie you ask? that is the atheist wet dream to disprove by "logic" (truth is about love and letting love teach you of all things) that god doesn't exist. offcourse showing off grandly to anyone who have read the words, how much they have misunderstood and misinterpreted it to achieve the outcome they desired. and then praise themselves afterwards!
and what of richard dawkins you ask? i can show how he has misinterpreted all of these things you mention, but it would take a while since he tosses out a lot of things. so i'll do a few
what of abel and kain? that he cursed abel for killing his own brother out of jealousy? was that cruel? that he gave him wisdom so he could could then see how pride looks from the flipside as he wandered and was "spat on", the pride he had when he became jealous of his brother and slayed him, rather than praising him for doing good things and praising all, was loving to show him why he should praise all instead of being jealous and proud, and it's also a very symbolic story.
and with the "homophobic" where there were MUCH more going on in soddom and gomorra or with the tower of babel and all that, than just homophilia, the teachings of lucifer were going on teachings of arcane mindtrick manipulation techniques, seduced and lost they were to do perverse things towards themselves and the holy animals and other things, that they respected and honored nothing but themselves and their own selfish needs and desires. that they had much power over the area, and much much more and that it would get out of hand too early, since lucifer should have more time to redeem himself and this would spread too fast through the power magik has on the lost.
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Battleclash
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Posted - 2007.11.20 22:32:00 -
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As I recall, the Avatar didn't really want to be the avatar but later accepted his Fate
Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Stupidity is universal.
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7shining7one7
Quafe Paladins
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Posted - 2007.11.20 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 20/11/2007 22:41:03 i use the term avatar since it is generally known by people as describing god incarnate.
yes jesus was not pleased about what he learned through the love of the holy one that should be done. but it was to show that he did not sit in judgement of the holy sons! that all were holy, and that no matter what was done unto him/what you said against the holy one, he still loved them. it was to show that the holy one allways loves all equal, no matter what they do! and that they would be forgiven for their sins all they should do was ask for the holy one to shine upon them and let this love teach them of all things! But that they did have free will, but that they should allways remember the annointment, that all they had to do was ask for it. and to show all that they had eternal life through their connection through the father as holy sons! to not fear death! to be at peace and love eachother!
and the church has misunderstood and abused that vigoriously! to make people dependent on the church! to make people feel that they are somehow not holy, that they are bad or whatever.. "oh you have sinned oh king, but give us gold and u shall be good with the lord", or "you are bad, jesus died cause you messed up you fool, now worship church repent your sins you bad bad person! or you will be sent to "hell!" what liars and hipocrits!
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Liivia
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Posted - 2007.11.20 22:40:00 -
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IBTL?
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7shining7one7
Quafe Paladins
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Posted - 2007.11.20 22:45:00 -
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 20/11/2007 22:45:38
Originally by: Liivia IBTL?
Related:
scripture / armageddon / new beginning paradise on earth / 2012 was how i entered thread. then questions were asked and oppinions shown. no attempts to derail or want people to be a certain way or do a certain thing. i answer the questions asked about what i say.
Should you not let the moderators decide and participate rather than entering a thread with only the words In Before The Lock?
peace
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Battleclash
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Posted - 2007.11.20 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Liivia IBTL?
Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Stupidity is universal.
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Liivia
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Posted - 2007.11.20 22:54:00 -
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sorry 7shining7one, I hit enter before I was done. =P
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7shining7one7
Quafe Paladins
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Posted - 2007.11.20 23:06:00 -
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 20/11/2007 23:06:59
Originally by: Liivia sorry 7shining7one, I hit enter before I was done. =P
you are indeed blessed dearly beloved holy daughter of the holy one! praise to you and praise to all
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Micheal Dietrich
Cynical Cartel
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Posted - 2007.11.20 23:10:00 -
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Too bad. This was actually a pretty decent tin hattery thread up until page 3.
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7shining7one7
Quafe Paladins
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Posted - 2007.11.20 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 20/11/2007 23:22:07 Nono.. go ahead, throw your science and technology bit in and funny ideas all welcome to have fun, i have spoken my peace and so shall you holy son, you shall have your fun! free will remember! just remember the annointment and don't forget, so we do not forget to love one another!
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Micheal Dietrich
Cynical Cartel
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Posted - 2007.11.20 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 20/11/2007 23:22:07 Nono.. go ahead, throw your science and technology bit in and funny ideas all welcome to have fun, i have spoken my peace and so shall you holy son, you shall have your fun! free will remember! just remember the annointment and don't forget, so we do not forget to love one another!
CCP Kieron 17:46
Quote: 3. Discussions about politics and religion not allowed, there are other websites with forums for these topics.
He also decreed that
Quote: 7. It shouldn't be necessary to do so, but it appears that some players feel the need to inflict their viewpoints on race, religion, politics, and other hot topic opinions on other players. These discussions will not be tolerated anywhere on the EVE forums. Players that cannot follow this guideline can lose their posting privileges immediately. This is the sole warning that will be issued regarding this.
See, I can quote scriptures too .
Your blasphemy on page 3 really had nothing to do with the topic with the exception of maybe the first post IDK I'll have to reread it. Take your religion elsewhere homeboy.
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Originally by: Liivia Edited by: Liivia on 20/11/2007 22:53:19 IBTL?
Anyways...
Originally by: Rana Ash
Originally by: Liivia Oh and some dumb ass said they were from South America. Try again.
I think it was central america, close to mexico Map Linkage
Not just "close" to Mexico, much of it was in Mexico. I have been to their ruins at Tulum and Chitzen Itza, there is a city named for my "white" ancestors on the coast.
Originally by: Rana Ash
And they never dissapeard, they just faded into the background.
I know they didn't disappear, that is why I put it in quotes. That is how so many people refer to long gone civilizations, they "vanished" or "disappeared." They didn't "fade into the background" either.
The Maya ravaged the areas they lived in. Far from the noble savage that so many associate with Native Americans. There are areas that were inhabited with tens of thousands 1500 years ago. The Yucatan, a region that housed a large part of their civilization wasn't the best for building a massive culture yet they did it. They got too big and farmed too heavily. Those that didn't starve or die in warfare, left, probably to join the civilizations booming in the more fertile west. The Maya weren't unified really though.
Pop quiz for you:
Only three areas on Earth developed written language independently. Other places adopted it after contact with these three areas. What were the areas?
Egypt Mesopotamia China Japan Western Europe Central America India Greece
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 21/11/2007 04:22:59
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Your blasphemy on page 3 really had nothing to do with the topic with the exception of maybe the first post IDK I'll have to reread it. Take your religion elsewhere homeboy.
my reply is this
as for the "blasphemies" you speak of, and "having nothing to do with the topic" and all that, and you thinking that you might have to reread it. yes i think you should do that, and also notice the name of the thread and think a little about that.
there was spoken of the mayan sky watcher religion and their findings, there were spoken of prophets and such in comments by others, i didn't see you being high and mighty towards those. this condemnation of yours is not about me or the words i speak, or the rules in the forums, or a "personal quest to uphold the rules in the forums for the benefit of others" for then you would have reacted to other things that were written before my posts. No.. this is about You, You personally, what you like and dislike, and your perceptions of what my words are that you have bad associations with and thus not want to even try to look at what i say.
and then i "come and ruin your fun in the tinfoil debate" as you call it. and i speak of equal love for all, and you smilingly then condemn me baselessly and feeling good about yourself and oh so wise in your conceit (refer to the link), even when i had just said before, to you to have your fun and honored you and all others etc.
there is no need to speak further on this, you know very well that the condemnation you just uttered was not out of the truth in your heart. unless you decieve yourself. or is the truth of the atheist to hate is brother, and walk in darkness, and knoweth not wither he goeth, because that darkness has blindeth his eyes?
peace to all, and as i have said before and say again, i love you all, now have your fun.
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Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 21/11/2007 04:22:59
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Your blasphemy on page 3 really had nothing to do with the topic with the exception of maybe the first post IDK I'll have to reread it. Take your religion elsewhere homeboy.
my reply is this
as for the "blasphemies" you speak of, and "having nothing to do with the topic" and all that, and you thinking that you might have to reread it. yes i think you should do that, and also notice the name of the thread and think a little about that.
there was spoken of the mayan sky watcher religion and their findings, there were spoken of prophets and such in comments by others, i didn't see you being high and mighty towards those. this condemnation of yours is not about me or the words i speak, or the rules in the forums, or a "personal quest to uphold the rules in the forums for the benefit of others" for then you would have reacted to other things that were written before my posts. No.. this is about You, You personally, what you like and dislike, and your perceptions of what my words are that you have bad associations with and thus not want to even try to look at what i say.
and then i "come and ruin your fun in the tinfoil debate" as you call it. and i speak of equal love for all, and you smilingly then condemn me baselessly and feeling good about yourself and oh so wise in your conceit (refer to the link), even when i had just said before, to you to have your fun and honored you and all others etc.
there is no need to speak further on this, you know very well that the condemnation you just uttered was not out of the truth in your heart. unless you decieve yourself. or is the truth of the atheist to hate is brother, and walk in darkness, and knoweth not wither he goeth, because that darkness has blindeth his eyes?
peace to all, and as i have said before and say again, i love you all, now have your fun.
Ya caught me and the truth be told. Wait wait, no it wasn't. As a matter of fact I did reread your first post, a rebuke to somebody elses comment about crazy doomsayers generally believing in religion of sorts. Every single post you wrote was about religion, not about planet X, not about the mayans and they're desktop calendars, not about meatball monsters from outer space. The closest that you even came to the actual topic on hand was a one line reference about apocalypses and religion then you went back on the religion rant. Why am I only after you? Because the other guy talking about religion realized it was off topic and was cool about it and stopped. At the same time he would have never have started if it weren't for you. If he were to come back in here and talk about the subject at hand I'd have no problem. But you continue to break the rules and in multiple threads.
Mayans are a civilization, not a religion. Planet X is a brown dwarf, not a holy spirit. Spaghetti monsters and lizard people are a figment of imagination, atleast I hope so. All factors of the 2012 conspiracy, the topic of the thread. The Father, son, and holy spirit is something different that can be discussed here.
Don't like it, too bad.
I did like your comment about me judging you. Very good, especially where your, as you put it, 'blind' to the fact that you did it right back. That's called human behavior. Also how we got the quote "don't judge a book by it's cover" If I were you I'd probably would reread the rules before posting Mr Preacher.
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 21/11/2007 08:55:34 wow, i ask if it's ok (the question was: is this the truth about atheists?) for atheist to condemn and hate their brothers? while pointing to that those that hate their brothers are lost and know not what they do. and should be kind to people instead.
and you twist it around what i say and say i judge you, and answer right back that it's "just human nature" to condemn and judge, hence therein is your own justification for doing it to me from the get go. while simultaneously answering my question.
thus remains the simple fact which is;
i choose to love, you choose to condemn, and you might think it's delusional to love other people since you boil everything down to "human nature" and live by that, in which case.. i think that's the closest we get to agreeing.
peace
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You choose to troll and turn this into a pathetic tit for tat thread. Like I said everything was great until page 3.
And you assume I'm atheist.
I'm sorry jim, this threads dead.
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 21/11/2007 21:33:09 My name is not Jim. I think that speaks volumes about your "judgement".
You are the one trolling\killing the thread by condemning others, rather than providing information to the thread.
And since you proclaim yourself not an atheist, yet did not refute the question if you were, the first time i asked, then do tell everyone which "marvelous" belief you have, where you find it perfectly natural to judge and condemn others for your own selfish benefit. I'm sure some would like to know ^_^
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Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 21/11/2007 21:45:08
Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 21/11/2007 21:33:09 My name is not Jim. I think that speaks volumes about your "judgement".
You are the one trolling\killing the thread by condemning others, rather than providing information to the thread.
And since you proclaim yourself not an atheist, yet did not refute the question if you were, the first time i asked, then do tell everyone which "marvelous" belief you have, where you find it perfectly natural to judge and condemn others for your own selfish benefit. I'm sure some would like to know ^_^
Jim is Captain James (Jim) T. Kirk. Bones (the doctor) usually told Kirk things like "I'm sorry Jim, this mans dead" or "Damnit Jim, I'm a lover not a fighter"
Quotes are used to emphasize the moment, like how you killed this thread you heartless bastard. Thinking I was calling you Jim is simply retarded.
AS for saying I'm the troll and not providing useful imformation, maybe YOU need to reread MY first post. Yaknow, talking about the planet X conspiracy and how it was brought up in another thread and it being one of many links to 2012 yada yada. Poor form old chap, better luck next time.
I believe in god, thats all you need to know. Now if you don't mind, Im gonna go condemn a toilet. I await your next petty responce.
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 21/11/2007 21:55:40 Oh I'm sure you do! I'm sure you believe in god, and I'm sure that the definition of this god you believe in, is exactly whatever fits the situation you are in.
And right now "Jim" i believe your god is this
That will "destroy all Jims except you" in 2012 leaving you as the sole survivor, and bless you with plate upon plate of his "essence", right? well it's a pretty good theory considering
simultaneously getting us back on track in this thread, and hopefully getting you off the painful self induced wambulance that you woe and complain about being on. ^_^
Do continue to troll, but what shall be your excuse now?
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Posted - 2007.11.21 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 21/11/2007 21:55:40 Oh I'm sure you do! I'm sure you believe in god, and I'm sure that the definition of this god you believe in, is exactly whatever fits the situation you are in.
And right now "Jim" i believe your god is this
That will "destroy all Jims except you" in 2012 leaving you as the sole survivor, and bless you with plate upon plate of his "essence", right? well it's a pretty good theory considering
simultaneously getting us back on track in this thread, and hopefully getting you off the painful self induced wambulance that you woe and complain about being on. ^_^
Do continue to troll, but what shall be your excuse now?
Theres the real you. Eventually your 'I love everyone' holyness was gonna have a ***** in it.
Have a good day sir
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Posted - 2007.11.21 22:05:00 -
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not at all, i'm opening the door for you to have some fun, and for you to get off the wambulance and stop trolling the thread, i'm speaking to you in terms you prefer to understand and that your god appreciates. i still love you and u can hate me for it if you like. others can only open the door, your the one who has to decide wheither to walk through it or not
and a good day to you too sir
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Micheal Dietrich
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Posted - 2007.11.21 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: 7shining7one7 not at all, i'm opening the door for you to have some fun, and for you to get off the wambulance and stop trolling the thread, i'm speaking to you in terms you prefer to understand and that your god appreciates. i still love you and u can hate me for it if you like. others can only open the door, your the one who has to decide wheither to walk through it or not
and a good day to you too sir
I believe the proper term is "I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it."
Atleast get the quotes and terminology right. This isn't even worth it but I know you will not stop. After all, it's human nature.
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Posted - 2007.11.21 22:22:00 -
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as you continue to troll! unbelievable
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Posted - 2007.11.21 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: 7shining7one7 as you continue to troll! unbelievable
Right back at ya.
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 21/11/2007 22:26:20 dude i allready told you, let's get back on topic and get off the wambulance of trying to kill the thread.. i'm not trolling, every response i give to you is saying the same thing, stop trolling and condemning others and let's have fun instead..
amazing that you can in your mind turn that into that i'm trolling you.. simply wow sir..
*big hug*
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Originally by: 7shining7one7 dude i allready told you, let's get back on topic and get off the wambulance of trying to kill the thread.. i'm not trolling, every response i give to you is saying the same thing, stop trolling and condemning others and let's have fun instead..
amazing that you can in your mind turn that into that i'm trolling you.. simply wow sir..
Your funny. Think I'll take you home, atleast until I get bored of ya then it's off to the humane society to be put down.
I don't exactly see you switching the topic. Oh and I see I'm condemning people instead of person. I would like to see who else I've 'condemned'. And where am I 'condemning them to?
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 21/11/2007 22:29:30 oh yeah! i mean the flying spaghetti monster 2012 doomsday theory is completely off topic! I do apologize oh mighty michael dietrich, oh judger and condemner of "Jim's"
all that misdirected anger ^_^
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Don't make me send the 2 of you to your rooms.
Originally by: Vladimir Ilych Stupidity is universal.
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Posted - 2007.11.21 22:30:00 -
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lol battle , say something quick and on topic, thou shall be our salvation! the spaghetti monster is not up to the task
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Originally by: 7shining7one7 oh yeah! i mean the flying spaghetti monster 2012 doomsday theory is completely off topic! I do apologize oh mighty michael deitrich, oh judger and condemner of "Jim's"
I see you failed to answer my questions and made a poor comeback in general.
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Posted - 2007.11.21 22:32:00 -
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I did answer it, you just didn't read the several replys where i urged you to get off the wambulance and just have fun :) the flying spaghetti monster (scroll up a bit) was one of those.
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Posted - 2007.11.21 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: 7shining7one7 I did answer it, you just didn't read the several replys where i urged you to get off the wambulance and just have fun :) the flying spaghetti monster (scroll up a bit) was one of those.
I did a recheck thinking I missed something but I see no names of the other people I've condenmed.
Looks to me like your just dragging this out just because. Not my fault your not allowed to preach religion to the masses that make Eve.
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 21/11/2007 23:36:48 No you singled me out and justified it with it being "human nature" to condemn people. i urged you to stop wambulating and continue the thread with the op topic in mind, and you just keep on trolling me!
this isn't about that at all, i saw the belief that i adhere to being attacked, so i set some things straight cause i saw it was being misconstrued (calling jesus a cosmic jewish space zombie that was his own father), and i wasn't the only one that felt that way (if you read back) and then i offered you free space to continue your fun.. after your first complaint.. and you have done nothing but trolled ever since you got on the wambulance..
this is about you single handedly sabotaging this thread for your own amusement, despite encouragements to have fun with the topic and return to it, as i attempted to do. not even the spaghetti monster could make you brighten up and have fun in this thread without you wanting to continue tearing it apart. and you continued to spew out condescending rubbish all the way through.
despite that, i still loves ya but you seriously need to stop trolling and lighten up.
if you can't do that then send a wambulance mail to the mods so you can show them just how much you've been trolling this thread.
this discussion between me and you, is closed, and i don't want to respond to your hard headed and unreconciliating comments anymore.
others i will however respond to, let's hear it for the spaghetti monster in 2012 whadayasay
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Micheal Dietrich
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I knew he couldn't resist. Gotta love predictability.
Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 21/11/2007 23:36:48 No you singled me out and justified it with it being "human nature" to condemn people. i urged you to stop wambulating and continue the thread with the op topic in mind, and you just keep on trolling me!
So now I'm not condenming people but rather person. Guess I was right the first time I mentioned this to you earlier.
Originally by: 7shining7one7 this isn't about that at all, i saw the belief that i adhere to being attacked, so i set some things straight cause i saw it was being misconstrued (calling jesus a cosmic jewish space zombie that was his own father), and i wasn't the only one that felt that way (if you read back) and then i offered you free space to continue your fun.. after your first complaint.. and you have done nothing but trolled ever since you got on the wambulance..
So you admit that you did not discuss the topic but defended religion, for multiple postings I might add. Not mention you have offered nothing, every posting you end up making a comeback post. It takes 2 to troll, welcome aboard the wambulance
Originally by: 7shining7one7 this is about you single handedly sabotaging this thread for your own amusement, despite encouragements to have fun with the topic and return to it, as i attempted to do. not even the spaghetti monster could make you brighten up and have fun in this thread without you wanting to continue tearing it apart. and you continued to spew out condescending rubbish all the way through.
This wasn't me single handedly sabotaging the thread. I was talking about 2012. You went on about religion. Notice how everyone else stopped posting after you started. And you continued to spew out condescending rubbish all the way through (copy/paste is so cool).
Originally by: 7shining7one7 Rabble
Originally by: 7shining7one7 this discussion between me and you, is closed, and i don't want to respond to your hard headed and unreconciliating comments anymore.
I doubt it. This thread will eat away at you until you make another reply. You won't give up.
Originally by: 7shining7one7 Rabble
Too bad no one else is responding. This thread should have been on page 2 by now.
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It is said that the world will end when we do NOT expect it. You say 2012, we now expect it to, it won't.
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This thread was good for a while, until all this irrelevant chat started. But since it's now the seemingly new topic, I'll just throw in a question, what about the Trinity being separate and one at the same time, and isn't there comments of God making himself flesh, implying Jesus. Isn't calling him an avatar missing this point, as that's saying He is not God. Just a friendly question, I do not intend to get involved in a debate here.
Back to the world ending: 2008, 2+8 = 10 each 0 can represent 10 = 30 That has a three. The year begins with a 2. = 23
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Posted - 2007.11.22 12:54:00 -
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it always amazes me that people can be so incredibly stupid to run around screaming that he world is going to "end" at any date. the world will continue. if this miseable species of bloodthirsty ape gets taken out, the world will continue... probably for the better, in fact... and the fact that there were mass suicides in germany in 1499, becasue the end would come in 1500, and the hysteria of 1999, and every other armageddon day of our collective idiotocy all indicates that the only thing that is assured to happen is that people will scream like village idiots, and make up excuses on the day after the "end"
Besides, the stars are not yet in alignment. Ia! Ia!
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Posted - 2007.11.22 14:02:00 -
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that's possible
or we will start building our first halo in 2012
glad thread is back on topic, hf
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At first we have to check out what comet 17P/Holmes is doing. It might enchant planet earth. It's one of those rare signs in the sky, you know.
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Accoring to my geography lecturer, the Pacific Ocean has almost stopped absorbing gaseous CO2, and from this we are ****** because this is a major sink so we have time in the area of 6 years before the **** is gone out the other side of the fan and on our nice clean floors. Thank god the EU has to member states with nuclear warfare capabilities....
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hey!!! we could make a bet!!!
at 1/1/2013... what date you think will be next for "worlds end"
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'Worlds' is as much a philosophical term as a geological one. The ending of one is often a less than tangible event.
When the Mayans suggest an end of a time, they are referring significantly to their independently developed zodiac observations of long astronomic cycles in the night sky. Similar practices started at least as early as the Babylonian period, and that influenced different systems such as the Indian (sidereal) and the more western (tropical) variants. The Chinese zodiac is both somewhat independently developed and influenced by the others. Longitude and latitude played their role, obviously.
What all are reduced to is very long periods of time in which patterns of constellations and planetary movements across the sky are supposed to repeat themselves. Naturally, most of them encompass very broad periods of time. These things are easier to contemplate without light pollution emanating from every center of population.
In philology, these notions have a significant effect on cultural perceptions, especially those concerning history and time. Two very different traditions arise in cultures with linear and cyclical notions of time. Naturally, this tends to become syncretic with notions of deities, whether impersonal omipotents or wish-granting djinns, -- not to mention ethics, economics and politics. Unsurprisingly, these notions are prominent within many dominant religions.
One image that is particularly common to many religions is the slaying or worship of ruminants, particularly bulls. Broadly, this results from the popularization of the Babylonian notion of the age of the bull. The ending of an age is an historical notion, and generally is represented symbolically. Likewise, imagery of fish, or pisces, is associated with its period, even antecedently.
Naturally, although the timekeeping practices of the ancients of all continents is wholly remarkable, its main utility was in serving as something that seemed almost predictable, but unveiled endless complexity on further investigation. Cosmology in this sense has probably helped fuel mathematics in all areas of inquiry in ages past. It is not terribly likely that more than a handful of celestial alignments are apt to be in their estimated positions on the date, however it would almost be worth modeling purely for historical and cultural interest. It would be interesting to see review the scope of accuracy the calendar would possess if repeated from the given date.
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catholics and maya. im not sure who them will fade away the most..
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