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Nigel Sheldon	Posted - 2007.11.19 19:09:00 - [1] You know what, i was thinking the other day being a brit nd all, what is the best show on the TV these days. Being a Sci-Fi nut i automatically went for Stargate or something along those lines, and then I got to thinking. You see in the UK these days we have a choice of basically three options. Mass Marketed American TV Game Shows OR Shows like Pop Idol, and Strictly Come Dancing. Thats it! Let's be honest, going through these 3 ideas.... 1. American Mass Marketed TV......not a lot of thought goes into these programs, they all follow a standard formula, and any brave ones there are get cancelled. 2. Game shows....well I will admit there are some good ones out there....the weakest link still makes me laugh, the rest are pretty much the same formula again, and besides half the time you go....oh didn't i see him on..... 3. Pop Idol shows. Now as much as I love Simon Cowell and his instant put-downers and all, how many of these types of shows do we really have to have! I mean talk about over-kill.....damn you Big Brother. So I was left with a startling and quite amazing choice..the only show worth watching on TV these days is Top Gear! I know i was as shocked as you, but there you have it. So if you want to have fun on a sunday evening...or any other for that thought, tune in 8pm bbc2 Sunday or hell even youtube it. Thank you for your time Mr. J Clarkson.
zurich93 SPECTRE Ops	Posted - 2007.11.19 19:11:00 - [2] Sticky for the truth! Nope starts here actually :O -----Sig starts here------- <3 Kaemonn eep eep beep heep keep womble... YOU DO NOT POSESS THE POWER TO DISGUINISH MY SIG FROM MY POST MWHAHAHA
Lord Zoran Caldari CrAzyF1sTs	Posted - 2007.11.19 19:23:00 - [3] Edited by: Lord Zoran on 19/11/2007 19:23:17 top gear makes a sunday more then just the day before you have to go back to work etc --------------------------------------------- no sig for you !!! Yarr!?!?!?!?!
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.11.19 19:29:00 - [4] NIGEL!! HOWS THE HAREM I wanted that name, but it was taken, now i know it was you!!! My alt is now Gore Burnelli :P Top Gear is he greatest program on tv -------------------------------------------- THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE!
Tao Han Synthetic Frontiers	Posted - 2007.11.19 19:53:00 - [5] Except for that redneck episode, that one scared the crap out of me
Sister Impotentata Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.11.19 20:22:00 - [6] I miss Vicki. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Psycho John Petrucci If there's any point where you feel it's too difficult, then just stop. Because you just, you don't have it, you're just not good.
DarkMatter Sintered Sanity	Posted - 2007.11.19 20:30:00 - [7] Originally by: Tao Han Except for that redneck episode, that one scared the crap out of me I still think some of that was acting... Like the cow on the roof of the Camaro? You brits don't actually think we have cows dead on the side of the road? And he would have needed a crane to put it on top of the car, not to mention weld in some bracing, as it would have just collapsed the roof... However, I did laugh my ass off the entire episode... My Current Project
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.11.19 20:33:00 - [8] Well do you think we sit around having tea and crumpets!?!?!?! If you do you would be right because thats what i had for breakfast... screw you... -------------------------------------------- THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE!
Auraurious Silentium. The Church.	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:05:00 - [9] Yes the only reason I EVER turn on the tv is for top gear, sunday isnt just a sunday anymore. Everything must be stopped to watch it! Perfection.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:10:00 - [10] Me personally would rather watch Meerkat Manor. These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Terail Zoqial	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:10:00 - [11] Deffinately, me and the wife aren't very knowledgeable with cars, have no real interest, but top gear IS the best program (with heroes ) on atm.
Sqalevon The Ragnarg Brotherhood	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:13:00 - [12] All the races on topgear are setup In the episode where he races the Mercedes Mclaren SLR to Oslo, he drives in the wrong direction on the "afsluitdijk" in the Netherlands, you can tell by the side on wich the sea is on... But I still love the show :D
Gralg Merglen Minmatar Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:30:00 - [13] I watch TV for exactly 1 hour a week, and that is to watch Top Gear. They get it on BBCA too, but its usually at least a year behind the UK :( Originally by: Graalum I can also confirm that the guristas pirates have a titan. We tried to kill it but unfortunately it mwded away at 5k/second and smacked us in local.
Taniquetil Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.19 21:37:00 - [14] All hail Top Gear! :)
Velsharoon Gallente Finite Horizon Synchr0nicity	Posted - 2007.11.19 22:00:00 - [15] Originally by: Gralg Merglen I watch TV for exactly 1 hour a week, and that is to watch Top Gear.
Gummi Laughing Leprechauns Corporation	Posted - 2007.11.19 22:00:00 - [16] Yup Top Gear, and I also enjoy the Long Way Down
Bosie Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.11.19 22:02:00 - [17] Originally by: Sqalevon All the races on topgear are setup In the episode where he races the Mercedes Mclaren SLR to Oslo, he drives in the wrong direction on the "afsluitdijk" in the Netherlands, you can tell by the side on wich the sea is on... But I still love the show :D I think they go back and re-shoot stuff to get the right pictures for the show. I would also say that they put a lot of thought into the races to make them as close as they can. "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND
Verone	Posted - 2007.11.19 22:06:00 - [18] Originally by: Sqalevon All the races on topgear are setup In the episode where he races the Mercedes Mclaren SLR to Oslo, he drives in the wrong direction on the "afsluitdijk" in the Netherlands, you can tell by the side on wich the sea is on... But I still love the show :D There's this thing, called editing... sometimes people mirror image footage (flip it) to get the right angle, or manipulate it... perhaps that gave the impression he was driving on the wrong side of the road... >>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.11.19 22:14:00 - [19] A lot of the stuff in the show is written... he is a writer after all! hes said that before. what matters is that its entertaining. -------------------------------------------- THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE!
mackem Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.11.19 23:15:00 - [20] Yes top gear is easily the best program on atm. Although Hammond and his new 'love' Oliver is er... worrying.
Valan Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.19 23:42:00 - [21] Don't like Clarkson but the format is good. Respect to the guy who walked across the humber. Most people would die 20 yds out. /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game four years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.11.19 23:42:00 - [22] Clarkson rules!!!!! CLARKSON FOR PM!!! -------------------------------------------- THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE!
Reiisha Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.20 05:45:00 - [23] Originally by: Bosie Originally by: Sqalevon All the races on topgear are setup In the episode where he races the Mercedes Mclaren SLR to Oslo, he drives in the wrong direction on the "afsluitdijk" in the Netherlands, you can tell by the side on wich the sea is on... But I still love the show :D I think they go back and re-shoot stuff to get the right pictures for the show. I would also say that they put a lot of thought into the races to make them as close as they can. This is true. The in-car footage is 'real', mostly from the actual race, when they're done they track the route and shoot some external shots, and some other things to make it look nice. Can't have only the race footage to make it interesting, it's still an entertainment show rather than a documentary.... EVE History Wiki
Astorothe Aperture Science Industries	Posted - 2007.11.20 05:53:00 - [24] This show makes the TV licence worth it. Eve Web Design \| PerthChat \| Learning to Trade
Kodiak31415 An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.11.20 06:04:00 - [25] Signed. JC is one of my personal heroes. Someday I hope to be half as much of an *** as he is. As I live in the U.S. I don't get TG on the tv so I have to download it every Sunday night. I usually wake up before school to watch it Monday morning. I think I have every episode of the modern version of TG on my computer. For anyone else in the states: The real version of top gear is MUCH better than the edited down junk we get here. (unless you get bbc). _______________________________ Pleese exucse any seplling erorr's in tihs psot
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.20 06:27:00 - [26] Originally by: Kodiak31415 Signed. JC is one of my personal heroes. Someday I hope to be half as much of an *** as he is. As I live in the U.S. I don't get TG on the tv so I have to download it every Sunday night. I usually wake up before school to watch it Monday morning. I think I have every episode of the modern version of TG on my computer. For anyone else in the states: The real version of top gear is MUCH better than the edited down junk we get here. (unless you get bbc). <3 bbc anyone know what season/episode the redneck episode is, i want to watch suppose i should go watch some top gear then
Reiisha Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.20 06:46:00 - [27] Originally by: Kodiak31415 Signed. JC is one of my personal heroes. Someday I hope to be half as much of an *** as he is. As I live in the U.S. I don't get TG on the tv so I have to download it every Sunday night. I usually wake up before school to watch it Monday morning. I think I have every episode of the modern version of TG on my computer. For anyone else in the states: The real version of top gear is MUCH better than the edited down junk we get here. (unless you get bbc). The real Top Gear lasts a full hour - no commercial breaks, the episodes are one full hour long. So in order to show them in the US at full length you would need a 3 hour slot, considering you get more ads than TV over there. In the Netherlands they don't even air the episodes - They simply edit, cut and paste parts from different episodes together in a 40-minute collage, with 20 minutes of ads in between - They even replace the damn music. And Top Gear is prolly one of the best TV show ever with regards to using proper music. Watch it on the BBC properly, or download them. All those people who think they know how to edit a foreign TV show should be shot in their nostrils. EVE History Wiki
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2007.11.20 07:17:00 - [28] Originally by: Reiisha The real Top Gear lasts a full hour - no commercial breaks, the episodes are one full hour long. So in order to show them in the US at full length you would need a 3 hour slot, considering you get more ads than TV over there. Man I could never stand watching anything that chopped up. These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!

CCP Eris Discordia	Posted - 2007.11.20 10:23:00 - [29] Top Gear is awesome and I want either of them to be my driving instructor, except James...he¦s too slow I might as well walk, although making martini or what was it on the pole was pretty damn cool. Pink Dread has been hijacked

Ealiom Infinitus Morti R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.20 10:43:00 - [30] ahk i could never watch this show. The awful studio 'gags' that they recite from the telepromters is toe curlingly bad. It's like watching your dad dance or something. And as the meat of the show is the same folk flying about in cars. I generally reach for the remote. And im sorry OP but Top Gear has been effected by the dreaded TV Americanization. I watched the episode were they took their car into the car wash and apparently set fire to the whole place. And they ran away! Yeah sure! It reeks a little too much of fake and trying too hard! ModelsBlackbird Executioner
Cown Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.20 11:10:00 - [31] Best ever tv program... Top Gear for president?
jason hill Caldari Nightmare Holdings Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.20 12:04:00 - [32] top gears is tops ! but i do like watching spooks ...but thats about it tbfh destroy everything you touch
QwaarJet Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.11.20 12:14:00 - [33] Clarkson for PM, tbh.
Nadja Markov SteelVipers YouWhat	Posted - 2007.11.20 13:12:00 - [34] Top Gear for the Win ! I wouldn`t want to miss my monday evening entertainment :)
Iva Soreass Perkone	Posted - 2007.11.20 17:27:00 - [35] <3 top gear.
Maverick479 Caldari Cruoris Seraphim	Posted - 2007.11.20 18:24:00 - [36] Yea, it is most definately the best show on TV. But not only that. Its the only thing even worth watching on TV... The fact everything else is terrible makes you realise how amazing it truely is! Top Gear Team for Prime Minister/Power! /Mav
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2007.11.20 19:38:00 - [37] A quick question for you Brits: do people over there really buy a Kia to pull a caravan? 'Cause that just ain't right. I know Clarkson didn't like the F150, but it really is a properly done truck, and that's what you need to get yourself above 35 while towing anything that matters. Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Top Gear is awesome and I want either of them to be my driving instructor, except James...he¦s too slow I might as well walk Eh, none of them are particularly great drivers on the track; that's why they have The Stig. James might actually be the best of the three (getting personal instruction from Jackie Stewart and all). I rolled my eyes when they pitted the 5 series diesel against the petrol version and "proved" the diesel is slower by giving Clarkson the diesel and Stig the petrol. The Stig could have beaten Clarkson in a 3-cylinder Geo Metro.
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.11.20 19:44:00 - [38] and despite what they say the Chrysler 300C IS! cool... and it is epicly comfortable. -------------------------------------------- THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE!
maCH'EttE Veto.	Posted - 2007.11.20 20:01:00 - [39] The mobile home racing this Sunday made my ribs hurt! Originally by: Devil Hanzo (ISD) I got pwned!
Benny Hill Caldari Deceased Inc	Posted - 2007.11.20 20:04:00 - [40] Doesn't the UK get these shows? South Park Family Guy
Ciphero Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.11.20 20:34:00 - [41] Originally by: Benny Hill Doesn't the UK get these shows? South Park Family Guy We do, and largely enjoy them too. Don't worry America!
Lance Hawke Beyond Divinity Inc Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.11.20 20:35:00 - [42] Originally by: Benny Hill Doesn't the UK get these shows? South Park Family Guy Yes They don't even compare to Top Gear. lofty29 likes boys

Zapatero	Posted - 2007.11.20 20:43:00 - [43] I'm not a fan of cars, yet I find Top Gear very watchable. Similarly I'm a bit of a lefty, yet enjoy Dragons' Den. QI wins for me though. All hail Dave TV - Z THIS IS A SAMPLE - EON IS REAL, BABY! (un)Official Member of the WDA Bump ArmyÖ

Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.11.20 20:56:00 - [44] ALL HAIL DAVE! ALL HAIL DAVE! -------------------------------------------- THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE! THE CAKE IS A LIE!
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.11.20 21:53:00 - [45] Originally by: Benny Hill Doesn't the UK get these shows? South Park Family Guy <3 All about soutpark/family guy sites. I still have a bet for ú20 going for someone to interest me in mainstream American TV beyond those 2. There are only 2 British shows I watch with the exception of the news, Doctor Who (lil sis loves it and we watch it together) and Top Gear. Everything else I watch invloves the language of the land of the rising sun
benzss Templar Securities and Holdings Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.11.21 17:59:00 - [46] Well I dunno. QI, Never Mind the Buzzcocks and Have I Got News For You are at least as good as Top Gear.
Reiisha Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.21 18:08:00 - [47] Edited by: Reiisha on 21/11/2007 18:09:27 Originally by: Frezik A quick question for you Brits: do people over there really buy a Kia to pull a caravan? 'Cause that just ain't right. I know Clarkson didn't like the F150, but it really is a properly done truck, and that's what you need to get yourself above 35 while towing anything that matters. You most definately don't need 500 bhp to tow a caravan... And it's not a properly done truck. The sceptics can whine what they want, but the F150 review in Top Gear is properly done, and show exactly why it's rubbish... Besides, in Europe we have Volvo's to tow caravans. And considering i've seen enough of them doing 80 mph on the freeway, i'd say yes, they can tow stuff that matters over 35. edit: Watch it, and watch it closely. It's rubbish. EVE History Wiki
MassonA Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.21 20:23:00 - [48] QI is the best thing going, although Father Ted is up there aswell
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2007.11.21 20:43:00 - [49] Originally by: Reiisha Edited by: Reiisha on 21/11/2007 18:09:27 Originally by: Frezik A quick question for you Brits: do people over there really buy a Kia to pull a caravan? 'Cause that just ain't right. I know Clarkson didn't like the F150, but it really is a properly done truck, and that's what you need to get yourself above 35 while towing anything that matters. You most definately don't need 500 bhp to tow a caravan... And it's not a properly done truck. The sceptics can whine what they want, but the F150 review in Top Gear is properly done, and show exactly why it's rubbish... An F150 is around 250hp right now. Even the Super-Duties (F250 and up) don't usually do more than 300hp (though their diesels have quite a bit of torque compared to that, as you'd expect). By his own admission, Clarkson doesn't know much about trucks. Yes, I know the interior is a bit cheap. Ford makes all their interiors cheap. Yes, the steering does have lot of play. In a normal car, those things would matter. In a truck, what matters is how rugged it is and how much weight you can throw on without affecting gas millage. The F-series is very good at that. The dominance of the F-series is due in part to the fact that Toyota doesn't make a diesel truck for America yet (though that doesn't explain the high sales figures of the F150, which also doesn't come in diesel), and partially because it's done right for what it needs to do. Clarkson should stick to supercars.
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.11.21 20:46:00 - [50] Originally by: Zapatero I'm not a fan of cars, yet I find Top Gear very watchable. Similarly I'm a bit of a lefty, yet enjoy Dragons' Den. QI wins for me though. All hail Dave TV - Z QI ftw
Reiisha Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.21 21:05:00 - [51] Originally by: Frezik Originally by: Reiisha Edited by: Reiisha on 21/11/2007 18:09:27 Originally by: Frezik A quick question for you Brits: do people over there really buy a Kia to pull a caravan? 'Cause that just ain't right. I know Clarkson didn't like the F150, but it really is a properly done truck, and that's what you need to get yourself above 35 while towing anything that matters. You most definately don't need 500 bhp to tow a caravan... And it's not a properly done truck. The sceptics can whine what they want, but the F150 review in Top Gear is properly done, and show exactly why it's rubbish... An F150 is around 250hp right now. Even the Super-Duties (F250 and up) don't usually do more than 300hp (though their diesels have quite a bit of torque compared to that, as you'd expect). By his own admission, Clarkson doesn't know much about trucks. Yes, I know the interior is a bit cheap. Ford makes all their interiors cheap. Yes, the steering does have lot of play. In a normal car, those things would matter. In a truck, what matters is how rugged it is and how much weight you can throw on without affecting gas millage. The F-series is very good at that. The dominance of the F-series is due in part to the fact that Toyota doesn't make a diesel truck for America yet (though that doesn't explain the high sales figures of the F150, which also doesn't come in diesel), and partially because it's done right for what it needs to do. Clarkson should stick to supercars. He only said that it sucked if you live anywhere in Europe. Which it does, really :D Still, big problem with it is the suspension and the lack of 4wd... I wonder why it doesn't have it. EVE History Wiki
Lance Hawke Beyond Divinity Inc Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.11.21 21:23:00 - [52] Originally by: Frezik Originally by: Reiisha Edited by: Reiisha on 21/11/2007 18:09:27 Originally by: Frezik A quick question for you Brits: do people over there really buy a Kia to pull a caravan? 'Cause that just ain't right. I know Clarkson didn't like the F150, but it really is a properly done truck, and that's what you need to get yourself above 35 while towing anything that matters. You most definately don't need 500 bhp to tow a caravan... And it's not a properly done truck. The sceptics can whine what they want, but the F150 review in Top Gear is properly done, and show exactly why it's rubbish... An F150 is around 250hp right now. Even the Super-Duties (F250 and up) don't usually do more than 300hp (though their diesels have quite a bit of torque compared to that, as you'd expect). - Find youtube link somewhere on this page. - Listen to where he says that the engine produces 380bhp. - lol @ you. lofty29 likes boys
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2007.11.21 22:18:00 - [53] Originally by: Lance Hawke Originally by: Frezik Originally by: Reiisha Edited by: Reiisha on 21/11/2007 18:09:27 Originally by: Frezik A quick question for you Brits: do people over there really buy a Kia to pull a caravan? 'Cause that just ain't right. I know Clarkson didn't like the F150, but it really is a properly done truck, and that's what you need to get yourself above 35 while towing anything that matters. You most definately don't need 500 bhp to tow a caravan... And it's not a properly done truck. The sceptics can whine what they want, but the F150 review in Top Gear is properly done, and show exactly why it's rubbish... An F150 is around 250hp right now. Even the Super-Duties (F250 and up) don't usually do more than 300hp (though their diesels have quite a bit of torque compared to that, as you'd expect). - Find youtube link somewhere on this page. - Listen to where he says that the engine produces 380bhp. - lol @ you. I said F150's right now are producing around 250hp. The Top Gear video is a few years old, when they were indeed using a more powerful engine.
DeadRow Naqam	Posted - 2007.11.21 22:57:00 - [54] Originally by: Zapatero QI wins for me though. So true- QI = teh best. /DeadRow
Nigel Sheldon	Posted - 2007.11.22 11:05:00 - [55] ohhhh the debate and stir i have caused. what is good to see however is the likes of QI, HIGNFY ranking up there as the favourites along with Top Gear.....good show people. so basically we have agreed that british shows are much much better than american made to forumla pap. and as for the truck debate..... you ain't ever ever gonna beat a hilux
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:02:00 - [56] Originally by: Nigel Sheldon you ain't ever ever gonna beat a hilux QFT, absolutly indestructible (well allmost)! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
corporal hicks Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:22:00 - [57] The reason Top Gear works is the presenters, the three of them just play off each other so well it makes the show, you could put jezza hamster and captain slow in a white room and have the 3 of them slag each other for a hour and I would watch it and think its awesome. The chemestry between them just works. QI also a excellent show allways liked Stephen fry. So I guess its DAVE TV FTW " Stay Frosty "
Chinua Suren Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.11.22 22:07:00 - [58] Edited by: Chinua Suren on 22/11/2007 22:13:13 Edited by: Chinua Suren on 22/11/2007 22:12:09 Personally I think top gear is sexist and pathetic macho-man bullcrap. Bad jokes and too much testosterone and hairy ballsacks to be of any interest for me. These ren't top gear specific problems but occur in most car programs. Funny how taste can differ so much. But I agree on that Britain produces lots of good shows. And above all, good actors! --- None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. û Goethe
Major Stormer Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.22 22:31:00 - [59] Originally by: Chinua Suren Edited by: Chinua Suren on 22/11/2007 22:13:13 Edited by: Chinua Suren on 22/11/2007 22:12:09 Personally I think top gear is sexist and pathetic macho-man bullcrap. Bad jokes and too much testosterone and hairy ballsacks to be of any interest for me. These ren't top gear specific problems but occur in most car programs. Funny how taste can differ so much. But I agree on that Britain produces lots of good shows. And above all, good actors! Good actors mabye, wish they were not so bloody boring thou. Yo, sig it!

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