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Marcus Baltar
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Posted - 2007.11.19 23:46:00 -
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Just seen this in Sales Forum. 
Anyone know if this is a genuine IPO or just a scheme to raise some money with no real business plan behind it? I could not find anything in this forum 
Apologies if this is cross posting/bad forum etiquette/whatever, I am just in, and about to get some sleep.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.11.19 23:49:00 -
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Nightjester
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Posted - 2007.11.20 00:02:00 -
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I bought one share and they are legit.
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2007.11.20 00:08:00 -
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Judging by the lockdown votes, i think the plan is to supply 0.0 with cheap t1 modules...
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Damion Hunter
Empire Researchs Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.20 05:50:00 -
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"Anyone know if this is a genuine IPO or just a scheme to raise some money with no real business plan behind it?"
I think its the second option. They simply need money and want to test how stupid people are....
Atm SirMolle and the other bobits are sitting there, in front of theyr computers, watching the Threat, watching theyr wallets and laughing on everybody.
And btw i would not invest in a dying alliance^^
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.20 05:52:00 -
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in case you noticed, nothing was specified regarding the payment of dividends. So it's nothing more than a donation fund. Cool they have raised well over 700m already though 
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.11.20 06:13:00 -
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Wow, people are pretty ignorant.
What happened is a while ago (QUITE a while ago) one director quit the corp and kept 1 million shares.
Now, he's decided to cash in on them. They mean nothing, and the money is not going to Reikoku.
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Damion Hunter
Empire Researchs Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.20 06:19:00 -
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Edited by: Damion Hunter on 20/11/2007 06:21:13 ROFL thats great, and now 1 Person gets 1.000.000.000.000 Isk (if he sells all of them) for taking away shares a longer time ago.
So it's a "scam". But hey, he has offered nothing, so he is just selling a nice, how to say?, goody for your wallet.
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.20 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Wow, people are pretty ignorant.
What happened is a while ago (QUITE a while ago) one director quit the corp and kept 1 million shares.
Now, he's decided to cash in on them. They mean nothing, and the money is not going to Reikoku.
As DS said. A director left the corp with all the shares, and now gave them to Verone, who's now cashing them in.
Its a bit like Chribba's corp 
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Ramblin Man
Empyreum
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Posted - 2007.11.20 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Dark Shikari Wow, people are pretty ignorant.
What happened is a while ago (QUITE a while ago) one director quit the corp and kept 1 million shares.
Now, he's decided to cash in on them. They mean nothing, and the money is not going to Reikoku.
As DS said. A director left the corp with all the shares, and now gave them to Verone, who's now cashing them in.
Its a bit like Chribba's corp 
Except I don't think this one carried a disclaimer, and there are still people saying Chribba's IPO was a scam. 
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.20 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ramblin Man
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Dark Shikari Wow, people are pretty ignorant.
What happened is a while ago (QUITE a while ago) one director quit the corp and kept 1 million shares.
Now, he's decided to cash in on them. They mean nothing, and the money is not going to Reikoku.
As DS said. A director left the corp with all the shares, and now gave them to Verone, who's now cashing them in.
Its a bit like Chribba's corp 
Except I don't think this one carried a disclaimer, and there are still people saying Chribba's IPO was a scam. 
Thats a fine point you raise. But what they have in common is that they both have a value purely based on the name of the corp. Neither ever stated that they were gonna pay out anything. If nothing is said, nothing is to be expected, right?
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Ambo
2nd Outcasters
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Posted - 2007.11.20 08:42:00 -
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wtf?! Why are people giving this guy money?
Even if it's only 10 mil "for a laugh"...
I don't know if I should laugh or cry. 
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Marcus Baltar
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Posted - 2007.11.20 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Wow, people are pretty ignorant.
What happened is a while ago (QUITE a while ago) one director quit the corp and kept 1 million shares.
Now, he's decided to cash in on them. They mean nothing, and the money is not going to Reikoku.
Heh, thought it might be something like that.
Also another seller here. From that thread (and the first one) sounds like RKK will be liquidated soon (after all the assets are moved out, I bet).
Think this really is a scam, especially if the individuals know the corporation will be wound up.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.11.20 10:21:00 -
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What?! Chribba IPO was a scam?!      
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Krugerrand
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.11.20 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ambo wtf?! Why are people giving this guy money?
Even if it's only 10 mil "for a laugh"...
I don't know if I should laugh or cry. 
You get to see all past and future votes.
I will pay 1m to do that.
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Richard Kitan
United Space Republic Research
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Posted - 2007.11.20 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Krugerrand
Originally by: Ambo wtf?! Why are people giving this guy money?
Even if it's only 10 mil "for a laugh"...
I don't know if I should laugh or cry. 
You get to see all past and future votes.
I will pay 1m to do that.
This
Also, it's just neat to have a share of RKK, even if they close up shop and open as a new corporation. People still buy Python Mines for nostalgic reasons. I'm sure willing to spend a million to see all the past votes of RKK (Which are mostly lockdown votes and show you what BPOs they have and their locations - they do have quite an impressive collection) and to have a "piece of history".
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2007.11.20 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ambo Even if it's only 10 mil "for a laugh"... I don't know if I should laugh or cry. 
Buy one, look at the lockdown (and unlock) votes, then you will know wether to laugh or cry ...
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.11.21 07:15:00 -
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I vent to "closed votes" last nite and my EVE client crashed. It's THAT how awesome RKK is! haxsploit taktiks!
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.21 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Baltar
Originally by: Dark Shikari Wow, people are pretty ignorant.
What happened is a while ago (QUITE a while ago) one director quit the corp and kept 1 million shares.
Now, he's decided to cash in on them. They mean nothing, and the money is not going to Reikoku.
Heh, thought it might be something like that.
Also another seller here. From that thread (and the first one) sounds like RKK will be liquidated soon (after all the assets are moved out, I bet).
Think this really is a scam, especially if the individuals know the corporation will be wound up.
This isnt a scam. The case is that a person, who i shall not name here, was a director of RKK, and got 1mill shares. He left the corp. Bob wanted them back, but didnt wanna pay for them. So the person in question now sells them to the public.
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Tatania Apparition
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Posted - 2007.11.21 09:51:00 -
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Edited by: Tatania Apparition on 21/11/2007 09:50:54
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.21 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tatania Apparition Edited by: Tatania Apparition on 21/11/2007 09:50:54
I FULLY agree!!!!  Most intelligent thing said in this post.
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Astorothe
Aperture Science Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.21 14:10:00 -
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It's almost worth the mil just to see their votes :)
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Verite Rendition
Caldari F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2007.11.22 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: Astorothe It's almost worth the mil just to see their votes :)
Not almost, it simply is. They have a very nice BPO list. ---- FREE Explorer Lead Megalomanic EVE Automated Influence Map |

Astorothe
Aperture Science Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.22 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Verite Rendition
Originally by: Astorothe It's almost worth the mil just to see their votes :)
Not almost, it simply is. They have a very nice BPO list.
I noticed that :) Screenies are popping up all over the place showing the collection.
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Tatania Apparition
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Posted - 2007.11.22 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Astorothe
Originally by: Verite Rendition
Originally by: Astorothe It's almost worth the mil just to see their votes :)
Not almost, it simply is. They have a very nice BPO list.
I noticed that :) Screenies are popping up all over the place showing the collection.
Here's the list I compiled of all their T2 and Capital ship BPOs:
Standard Missile Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Magnetometric Backup Array II Reactor Control Unit II ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Damage Control II Modulated Deep Core Strip Miner II Small Energy Transfer Array II Medium Energy Transfer Array II Large Energy Transfer Array II Medium Nosferatu II 425mm Railgun II Dual Light Pulse Laser II Small Capacitor Battery II Medium Capacitor Battery II Medium Shield Extender II Heavy Capacitor Booster II Miner II Warrior II Infiltrator II Hobgoblin II Tracking Disruptor II 100MN Microwarpdrive II Arkanor Mining Crystal II Bistot Mining Crystal II Dark Ochre Mining Crystal II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor EM Hardener II Berserker II Mega Beam Laser II Rocket Launcher II 75mm Gatling Rail II Heavy Electron Blaster II
Torrent Javelin Assault Missile Fulmination Javelin Assault Missile Thunderbolt Precision Heavy Missile Thorn Rage Rocket Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Bane Rage Torpedo Inferno Javeling Torpedo Flameburst Precisions Light Missile Flameburst Fury Light Missile Phalanx Rage Rocket Foxfire Javelin Rocket Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Havoc Precision Heavy Missile Cataclysm Fury Cruise Missile Devastator Fury Cruise Missile Void S Void M Void L Spike M Spike L Javelin L Javelin M Quake L Tremor L Tremor M Barrage S Barrage L Scorch S Gleam S Gleam M
Deimos Flycatcher Claw Malediction Sabre Zealot Taranis Purifier Ishtar Jaguar
Revelation Archon Phoenix Moros Thanatos Chimera Naglfar Nighoggur Nyx Hel
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2007.11.22 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tatania Apparition Standard Missile Launcher II Rocket Launcher II Magnetometric Backup Array II Reactor Control Unit II ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II Medium Energy Neutralizer II Damage Control II Modulated Deep Core Strip Miner II Small Energy Transfer Array II Medium Energy Transfer Array II Large Energy Transfer Array II Medium Nosferatu II 425mm Railgun II Dual Light Pulse Laser II Small Capacitor Battery II Medium Capacitor Battery II Medium Shield Extender II Heavy Capacitor Booster II Miner II Warrior II Infiltrator II Hobgoblin II Tracking Disruptor II 100MN Microwarpdrive II Arkanor Mining Crystal II Bistot Mining Crystal II Dark Ochre Mining Crystal II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor EM Hardener II Berserker II Mega Beam Laser II Rocket Launcher II 75mm Gatling Rail II Heavy Electron Blaster II
Torrent Javelin Assault Missile Fulmination Javelin Assault Missile Thunderbolt Precision Heavy Missile Thorn Rage Rocket Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Bane Rage Torpedo Inferno Javeling Torpedo Flameburst Precisions Light Missile Flameburst Fury Light Missile Phalanx Rage Rocket Foxfire Javelin Rocket Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Havoc Precision Heavy Missile Cataclysm Fury Cruise Missile Devastator Fury Cruise Missile Void S Void M Void L Spike M Spike L Javelin L Javelin M Quake L Tremor L Tremor M Barrage S Barrage L Scorch S Gleam S Gleam M
Deimos Flycatcher Claw Malediction Sabre Zealot Taranis Purifier Ishtar Jaguar
Revelation Archon Phoenix Moros Thanatos Chimera Naglfar Nighoggur Nyx Hel
Whoa! Nice list there! Thanks for the hard work Tatania. Suprised to see SO many T2 BPO's! 
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari Karjala Inc. Onnenpyora
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Posted - 2007.11.22 12:06:00 -
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So, just curious here. If someone has shares of some corporation and decides to sell them that particular corporation can just quit and move assets making realistic value of shares 0 isk? Sounds pretty dumb :p
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Astorothe
Aperture Science Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.22 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn So, just curious here. If someone has shares of some corporation and decides to sell them that particular corporation can just quit and move assets making realistic value of shares 0 isk? Sounds pretty dumb :p
Yup they can do that alright. I'm sure there's some sentimental value attached to the corp name in question however, and it wouldn't exactly be a walk in the park to pack up and move. But yes it's possible.
We still got to sneak a peak at their goodies though - and in the process they made a small fortune. The price of curiosity perhaps.
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Yblarbo Janks
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.22 14:31:00 -
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Janks got in early - and there are no more of the first batch of shares available !
Since there are no more left from this batch,Janks is willing to sell them for 1.5 million each.
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2007.11.22 21:54:00 -
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Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 22/11/2007 21:55:08 Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 22/11/2007 21:54:39 The list above is of course only the small stuff they dont have in alt-corps or personal hangars. I doubt its 5% of their total assets, most likely 1% or less.
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