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Katamarino
Blazing Angels
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.22 02:54:00 -
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And Rajere used to seem like such a nice chap...personally, I think his account may have been bought by an angry teenager after he left us and we just weren't told 
Enjoy the war, all!
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Wusti
Caldari
The New Era
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Posted - 2007.11.22 05:51:00 -
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Give 'em Hell NOTR - Kill the pets and you hurt their owners 
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.22 06:29:00 -
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Edited by: dastommy79 on 22/11/2007 06:28:51
i like ponys
EDIT secon page sniper booya
I driks lot
*signature removed- Jacques([email protected])*
Next mod that nerfs my sig gets a **** punch
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Nicho Void
Hyper-Nova
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.22 07:26:00 -
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 Originally by: Rajere
rofl, the irony to go for the 300 reference and then have the audacity to consider yourselves anything but the massive blob slave army.
 Next time we'll consult with you to make it even numbers, since that's how all engagements in Eve proceed. If a 20 man gang is a blob, then I'll gladly continue doing so.
Originally by: Rajere
But -10 pts since the 300 reference has already been used, and we all know Fried is the tall guy in makeup.
Don't I get a saving throw?
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Rajere
No Trademark
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Posted - 2007.11.22 08:57:00 -
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Edited by: Rajere on 22/11/2007 08:57:55
We were sorta hoping that your homies Stellar Legion would counter by wardec'ing us, giving us a 2 for 1? Any chance of that happening? Sorta like a Mutual Defense Pact or something?
Also if you wouldn't mind providing us with a more up to date killboard link? All we have is this old White Star kb, but it doesn't seem too up to date. Thanks again
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FOFOFOF
CRAPSTORM
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Posted - 2007.11.22 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Alurexar
Live battleaction >>
pretty accurate to me, no need of kb links imhfo...
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Admiral Himerias
The White Star Consortium
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.22 13:28:00 -
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Ya I agree wtih Raje. Outnumbering someone is DEFINATELY a cheap tactic. By the way in the first battle of the war we had with you fellas I heard a strange story floating around that you had more people on your side during the battle? this isn't true is it? Like I couldn't imagine a nice honorable bunch of guys like you actually outnumber someone. I guess I heard wrong. After all I am sure that if you guys EVER had superior numbers you would contact us before the battle to make sure the sides were even right? After all isn't that what all alliances and corps do doing a war?
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FOFOFOF
CRAPSTORM
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Posted - 2007.11.22 14:19:00 -
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You contested my space, lets us duel...
gentlemen, choose you pistol.
now take 10 steps and...
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Alurexar
Freelance Assassins
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.22 15:36:00 -
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To all these people wondering if we have a killboard, yes we do! And its not very hard to find one if you just look ingame, should be in Tenth Legion description. To make it easier for you all, here is the URL to the website.
10th
Thank you
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Sol Flare
Caldari
Tenth Legion Holdings
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.22 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: Sol Flare on 22/11/2007 19:12:42
Originally by: Rajere
We were sorta hoping that your homies Stellar Legion would counter by wardec'ing us, giving us a 2 for 1? Any chance of that happening?
Why? Seems like they have their spot in Y9G you can't seem to break. No reason for them to come in back into Empire. They are doing their part by staying right where they are. 
As for the KB post... if you would have checked any pilot's info you would have found the Alliance KB (Huge thanks to Ralle of EvE-Kill.net for this!!!!). As for the WSCN KB.. it seems up-to-date to me.
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Rustik
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Posted - 2007.11.22 19:21:00 -
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I cant honestly see why someone would be pleased to be in NOTR, they are simply "fail".
Live in Y9G, claim they are in charge in an npc system, cant remove the other peoples POS's in said system, and have people like Rajere smacking for them constantly on the forums followed by their own members telling him to be quiet. Then theres the embarassing posts by Mes that are toe curlingly awful. You seem to be the remenants of an Alliance who have chosen to move on to pastures new, leaving the rubbish behind.
Seriously, Im sure most of the Pilots in NOTR could do a whole lot better for themselves...
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Sol Flare
Caldari
Tenth Legion Holdings
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.22 19:44:00 -
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Edited by: Sol Flare on 22/11/2007 19:45:57
Originally by: Admiral Himerias
Ya I agree wtih Raje. Outnumbering someone is DEFINATELY a cheap tactic.
You don't AGREE with the enemy!!! :lol: EVER... They are the enemy.
Out numbering is not a cheap tactic; it is a tactic used to overcome your threat swiftly and does a good job of it. Lets be honest shall we, when you fight, you fight to win, and when it is over we do not group up in your teams and shout "2,4,6,8.. who do we appricieate? NOTR!" LoL But we will give the "Good Fights" to those that deserve it.
I will not say that I won't use numbers to overcome a threat. If that is my strength, you will meet it head on or retreat in fear of it. As I will do the same. I hold no shame in it.
This.. is the art of war.
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Suna B
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2007.11.22 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Rajere
Edited by: Rajere on 22/11/2007 00:21:05
rofl, the irony to go for the 300 reference and then have the audacity to consider yourselves anything but the massive blob slave army. But -10 pts since the 300 reference has already been used, and we all know Fried is the tall guy in makeup.
Actually, funny story, but there was this one time Fried promised us that he'd do something humiliating in public if we got enough people in local...
...yeah, that's the result 
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Sunabi
Caldari
Defiance Corp
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.22 21:27:00 -
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Bad alt 
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BuckStrider
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.22 21:54:00 -
[45]
Edited by: BuckStrider on 22/11/2007 21:54:16
Originally by: Alurexar
Live battleaction >>
That was funny!
"The Blue Streaky Thingies!!!"
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Admiral Himerias
The White Star Consortium
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.23 02:12:00 -
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Sol I was kidding lol. Like I would agree with him on something as trivial as numbers.
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brain damaged
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Posted - 2007.11.23 06:56:00 -
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you 10th legend guys seem soooo bitter about this....do something about it instead of sitting in station.
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brain damaged
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Posted - 2007.11.23 06:57:00 -
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and yes it seems stupid that we did this but whats is done
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Rajere
No Trademark
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Posted - 2007.11.23 11:11:00 -
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Edited by: Rajere on 23/11/2007 11:12:58
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Ya I agree wtih Raje. Outnumbering someone is DEFINATELY a cheap tactic. By the way in the first battle of the war we had with you fellas I heard a strange story floating around that you had more people on your side during the battle? this isn't true is it? Like I couldn't imagine a nice honorable bunch of guys like you actually outnumber someone. I guess I heard wrong. After all I am sure that if you guys EVER had superior numbers you would contact us before the battle to make sure the sides were even right? After all isn't that what all alliances and corps do doing a war?
what battle? We've yet to see a real fight from you guys. sure, we've killed nearly 100 ships in 36 hours or so, but they were skirmishes at best. The only time we've ever fielded superior numbers (21 vs 19) was right as the wardec went live, and we never actually fought, you guys all fled and then docked up, remember? Since then we've come in gangs of 3-8 pilots hoping to get some pewpew against your gangs of 20 or so, but you won't undock :( And believe what you want about honor or 'fairness', but we do make a conscious effort to limit what we field. We could very well bring fleet fit spider repping battleship gangs every time we face you, but it's hard enough to get you to undock against our cruiser/bc gangs. Heck, nearly a third of your losses have been to a roaming gang of 2-3 inties...think about that for a second.
We don't bring overkill because part of the reason for the wardec is to provide you guys with pvp training for your future in syndicate. Once a haven for small gang pvp, syndicate has been suffering from a severe case of teh lame for quite some time now. However, that time will soon come to an end, and you will realize you can either blobup, or actually learn how to fight. Consider your choices carefully, as they are mutually exclusive.
Your alliance has 323 members to our 85. Even if we assume half of your members are carebears (half of our numbers are industrial alts) you still outnumber us 4:1. Your gangs readily outnumber ours 3-4:1, which is to be expected. No one is complaining that you have more members, what we are complaining about is even when we dive in head first into your prepared fleet sitting there at your optimals ready to pounce, you still won't engage us and instead you run away and dock. Would it help if we add Stellar to the wardec? That's another 291 members to draw from, should put you back around your typical gang size, get you back into your comfort zone?
Basically, what can we do to accomodate you? I get the feeling that you guys aren't having fun, and if you're not having fun then you aren't going to undock, which is what we're seeing now. That means no one gets any pewpew and whats the point of having internet spaceships if you don't have any pewpew.
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Sol Flare
Caldari
Tenth Legion Holdings
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.23 19:12:00 -
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Wow Rajere... I had to actually take a step back. This was a structure post. I figured nothing but a flaming attempt from you. Who has access to your account? ;)
Originally by: Rajere
We've yet to see a real fight from you guys. sure, we've killed nearly 100 ships in 36 hours or so, but they were skirmishes at best.
Expect to see more skirmishes as well. Many of these pilots are eager to learn PvP and do not have near the PvP experience that some of your pilots (FCs) have. I encourage this style because they will learn PvP as opposed to only learning to follow who is calling targets. Skirmishes teaches pilots to adapt quickly and analyze the situations they are in. All things that will make a better PvP pilot.
Originally by: Rajere
The only time we've ever fielded superior numbers (21 vs 19) was right as the wardec went live, and we never actually fought, you guys all fled and then docked up, remember?
I actually hoped that your*****iness would have made you come in individually and we would have easily handled the first two that came in with our group. In comparison to what we had, we could not take on your gang of BSs/BCs/Command. To do so would have ended in many losses. If you expect us to engage foolishly, prepare to be made the fools.
The point of the fact is that we met you on the field... we were not docked. The situation was not in our favor so a call was made to conserve the fleet, not lose the moral.
Originally by: Rajere
Since then we've come in gangs of 3-8 pilots hoping to get some pewpew against your gangs of 20 or so, but you won't undock ... but we do make a conscious effort to limit what we field.
True on the ships you are bringing. False on the 20 man gangs we are fielding atm. Please review your killboard and verify the numbers that were involved in every one of our kills (4-6 pilots). I would say we were standing toe to toe with you atm in gang sizes.
I know you guys could field much larger groups with much more T2 ships. You know and I know our engagements would drop for the fact that we will not simply throw ships at you. We will use tactics and attempt to engage when we have opportunities in our favor. I know you do the same when the roles are reversed.
Originally by: Rajere
Heck, nearly a third of your losses have been to a roaming gang of 2-3 inties...think about that for a second.
Wait... I thought we were docked? ;) I've looked and looked... I have yet to see where your inties have made any significant hit to our groups. Your inties are doing what inties do... tackle and hold for support.
Originally by: Rajere
We don't bring overkill because part of the reason for the wardec is to provide you guys with pvp training for your future in syndicate.
I'm glad you do realize that you are training our pilots to fight against you. I'm greatful for the war dec. All space is now 0.0 space.
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Sol Flare
Caldari
Tenth Legion Holdings
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.23 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Rajere
...and you will realize you can either blobup, or actually learn how to fight.
Both are tactics... but your idea of blobbing is somewhat skewed. Any number of pilots that enter a system that exceeds your numbers you considered blobbing. When in fact it maybe a frigate fleet or cruiser fleet which depends solely on its numbers to kill. How many frigates do you think it would take to drop a BC? 2.. 8... 15? When does a blob start? 10... 20.. 50?
Define for me a blob in very specific terms using ship classes, fittings, and numbers. Then look at that yourself and show me on the killmails where we have used such tactics.
Originally by: Rajere
No one is complaining that you have more members, what we are complaining about is even when we dive in head first into your prepared fleet sitting there at your optimals ready to pounce, you still won't engage us and instead you run away and dock.
Fleet or gang? I believe you are skewing facts once again. We are sporting gangs (4-12 pilots) not fleets. Check our kills against you again. The other issue of this is experience and confidence. Both of which are growing everyday. We have never claimed to be a full out PvP Alliance.
Originally by: Rajere
Would it help if we add Stellar to the wardec? That's another 291 members to draw from, should put you back around your typical gang size, get you back into your comfort zone?
Please Rajere... look over the Tenth KB and send me a post on either our Forum or in-game where we have fielded an LARGE gang consisting of all Tenth Legion pilots or are you talking about us supporting Allies? Sorry.. but that is what we do. And no.. it wouldn't help us to have you war dec Stellar. We are on completely different comms which means no organization happens between us and Stellar very often. We support Stellar/BRUCE when we are in Syndicate because they are our Allies and their pilots have supported us in the past.
We have not asked them to support us in this war. This war is about Tenth learning to stand on its own and stand back up when fall on our a$*es.
Originally by: Rajere
I get the feeling that you guys aren't having fun....
If you could only see our forums Rajere, you would see a completely different story =). Every engagement, win or lose, we have pilots patting each other on the back and helping to replace ships and modules. You have no clue the machine that you are building against you!... But you will.
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Fabrice Enchante
Gallente
Active Measures
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Posted - 2007.11.23 22:41:00 -
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I'm going to petition to rename Solitude to LOLitude.
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MitchPT
Hippie Haters
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.24 02:00:00 -
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I'm going to petition the TA constellation to be rename Rajere's Land, and the Y9G to be called Rajere's House, since he spends so much time there...
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Arkanjuca
Caldari
The Undertakers
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.24 07:23:00 -
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Great attitude Sol Flare, keep it up!
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"Tackling you in the system next door"
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