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Valentina Gallatoire
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Posted - 2007.11.21 03:31:00 -
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Edited by: Valentina Gallatoire on 21/11/2007 03:31:08
Actually people are not symmetrical. Indeed, according to a University of Regensberg study, facial symmetry is at best a weak indicator of attractiveness.
http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/symmetrie/symmetrie.htm
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.21 04:18:00 -
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 Originally by: Neon Genesis
Take a look at every ship in the game eve-online (no-where else), and then give me a count of how many are symmetrical.
Almost all gallente and amarr ships are symmetrical (good examples are the megathron and the nyx), most of the shuttles, and even some caldari ships, such as the drake, the merlin, the rokh, the caracal, the chimera, the phoenix etc.
Sure, some of them are not 100% symmetrical, but it's only if you look very close (for example the ferox has one jet power-unit more on the left side than on the right, but still looks quite symmetrical compared to the sansha battelship).
@Valentina Gallatoire: of course humans are symmetrical, they have 2 eyes, 2 hands 2 legs etc. It's a biological being, you can't demand that every square millimeter of one side of the body is identical with the counterpart of the other side - it's naturally symmetrical and your article backs up, that symmetry has an impact on beauty. At least a human would be seen as ugly, if he were extremely unsymmetrical, so to get that analogy back to ships, a little deviation here and there is ok, that does not make something being ugly, but if it's absolutely unsymmetrical, like the new raven, it looks ugly to the human eye.
I don't ask for perfect symmetry but that new raven is way too unsymmetrical, it hurts the eye a bit. Almost like that sansha ships, which probably are intentional made ugly.
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Adrian Steel
Caldari
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.11.21 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: Corphus
the only thing i can argue about here is that the ravens head is looking like a one-man c.ockpit. well maybe its just the angle but if this look is final i guess some small "window indicating" lights would be better to underline the size of the section. its a battleship and there shouldnt be sections which can be interpreted as too small on a huge ship like this one.
I would think it to be a large observation deck...
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Neon Genesis
The Landed Gentry
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Posted - 2007.11.21 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Originally by: Neon Genesis
Take a look at every ship in the game eve-online (no-where else), and then give me a count of how many are symmetrical.
Almost all gallente and amarr ships are symmetrical (good examples are the megathron and the nyx), most of the shuttles, and even some caldari ships, such as the drake, the merlin, the rokh, the caracal, the chimera, the phoenix etc.
Sure, some of them are not 100% symmetrical, but it's only if you look very close (for example the ferox has one jet power-unit more on the left side than on the right, but still looks quite symmetrical compared to the sansha battelship).
@Valentina Gallatoire: of course humans are symmetrical, they have 2 eyes, 2 hands 2 legs etc. It's a biological being, you can't demand that every square millimeter of one side of the body is identical with the counterpart of the other side - it's naturally symmetrical and your article backs up, that symmetry has an impact on beauty. At least a human would be seen as ugly, if he were extremely unsymmetrical, so to get that analogy back to ships, a little deviation here and there is ok, that does not make something being ugly, but if it's absolutely unsymmetrical, like the new raven, it looks ugly to the human eye.
I don't ask for perfect symmetry but that new raven is way too unsymmetrical, it hurts the eye a bit. Almost like that sansha ships, which probably are intentional made ugly.
Well I didn't mean that all of them were, just that there is a lot of variation and we don't have to be another generic sci-fi game with only ships that look like jet fighters.
Personally I don't find the Raven nasty to look at. Theres no point in making blanket comments like 'it looks ugly to the human eye', because it dosn't fit into your idea of what a spaceship should look like.
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Mastin Dragonfly
Bloodthorn Voyages
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Posted - 2007.11.21 06:28:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg this almost looks like the ugly sansha battelship. That lack of symmetry is a pain  .
Funny how the Nightmare is completely symmetrical... 
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Aravel Thon
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Posted - 2007.11.21 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg this almost looks like the ugly sansha battelship. That lack of symmetry is a pain .
Funny how the Nightmare is completely symmetrical...
As is the succubus, and the phantasm ;)
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Bellicose
Gallente
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.21 09:42:00 -
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megathron isent same on both sides it got that huge "air intake" on the one side
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Voculus
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.11.21 10:32:00 -
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Dazzling new textures on a hideous and lazy design. Proof that you can't polish a turd.
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Captain Plumb
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Posted - 2007.11.21 10:46:00 -
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Looks just as angular and asymetrical as before, except with better textures. i like it :)
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Misina Arlath
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Posted - 2007.11.21 11:01:00 -
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I prefer symmetrical ships by far.
A few designs look alright with the appendixes or random "hair" sticking out.
Granted, building a ship asymmetrical has little or no difference when it comes to moving around in space, since there is no need for an aerodynamic frame to counter wind resistance and such.
Still, I always like it best when my ship looks like it actually had some design behind it and not just random blocks and modules puzzled together the day after a bachelor party.
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Twin blade
Minmatar
The Triangle
Exa Nation
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Posted - 2007.11.21 12:18:00 -
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Other than the bridge ? thingy the new raven looks fecking great how can you say its ugly.
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Meja Acurro
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Posted - 2007.11.21 13:10:00 -
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I find it better than the old one, I also noticed the "shuttle"*****pit, but in general its an improvement.
I still havent gotten used to the unsymetrical shape myself of the Raven, but thats not important, whats important is that it has the best stats for a PVE ship, and to take a hit on the ugly side is well deserved beeing that good a mission ship.
We cant have it both ways... then everyone wanna get one, and thats a scenario I dont wanna play in... its way too many Raven`s parked in Motsu already.. I`ll try to push my Tempest trough the heap of Raven`s now  ... ciao!
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Gerod Theron
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Posted - 2007.11.21 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Voculus
Dazzling new textures on a hideous and lazy design. Proof that you can't polish a turd.
I couldn't have said it better my self.
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Lord Zoran
Caldari
CrAzyF1sTs
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Posted - 2007.11.21 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Bellicose
megathron isent same on both sides it got that huge "air intake" on the one side
further proof that it is in fact a car which ccp will make irl in the future
on a serious note the raven looks better, still not as good as some other ships but its definately an improvement
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Sobach
Gallente
Fourth Circle
Total Comfort
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Posted - 2007.11.21 13:36:00 -
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beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, there's no absolute scale to measure whether something looks good or not, so arguing about this is pointless.
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2007.11.21 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Almost all gallente ships are symmetrical
The drone boats are. The blaster boats and other variants all have minor to obvious asymmetrical features. So I wouldn't call it 'almost all'.
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