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Aravel Thon	Posted - 2007.11.20 21:28:00 - [1] i didnt think its possible, but the raven looks even butt uglier in trinity hideous
CptEagle Gallente D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.20 21:32:00 - [2] There is only one way to go, and thats better, and it is imo.
StarStryder Wise Guys Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.11.20 21:32:00 - [3] You sir are clearly an idiot!
Corwain Gallente Down In Flames	Posted - 2007.11.20 21:33:00 - [4] Thank god, I thought this was gonna be another torp boost ***** thread. Look on the bright side Aravel, at least the Wyvern looks amazing. --
Aravel Thon	Posted - 2007.11.20 21:34:00 - [5] Originally by: StarStryder You sir are clearly an idiot! no im not..... my mommie thinks im super special
LadyShu Federation of Synthetic Persons STYX.	Posted - 2007.11.20 21:51:00 - [6] imho it looks as ugly as before... but more details = more ugly :) ... EveTUBE.COM - Your bandwidth will be owned sir.
achoura	Posted - 2007.11.20 21:56:00 - [7] Actually thats the golem. A torp thread would have been better, you would have looked less stupid
NoNah Tenth Legion Holdings	Posted - 2007.11.20 22:02:00 - [8] I love it! Boost the Raven in 10 ways, nerf them in looks. And then enjoy the whine. Postcount: 390615
Arthur Frayn Veterans Of Liberation Ltd.	Posted - 2007.11.20 22:07:00 - [9] Originally by: Aravel Thon i didnt think its possible, but the raven looks even butt uglier in trinity hideous So... Can I have your Raven? -- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes.
arbalesttom Caldari Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.20 22:35:00 - [10] Raven now becomes bloody sexy imo... * * ♣♣♣Phear my sig!♣♣♣ Nice hamster! - Mindstar Sorry, that hamster ate your sig - Cortes
Little Matt	Posted - 2007.11.20 22:39:00 - [11] How is that ugly? I mean, it isn't shaped like a squashed turd like some of the other races ships, nor is it over endowed with Spiky Bits(tm) like minmatar ships. I like it.
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.11.20 22:40:00 - [12] The bit sticking out which looks like somebody transplanted a cheap car onto a turkey neck can go, but otherwise I like the changes.
Corphus The NewOrder BORG Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.20 22:50:00 - [13] Edited by: Corphus on 20/11/2007 22:52:12 Edited by: Corphus on 20/11/2007 22:50:44 Edited by: Corphus on 20/11/2007 22:50:29 Originally by: Aravel Thon i didnt think its possible, but the raven looks even butt uglier in trinity hideous the only thing i can argue about here is that the ravens head is looking like a one-man c.ockpit. well maybe its just the angle but if this look is final i guess some small "window indicating" lights would be better to underline the size of the section. its a battleship and there shouldnt be sections which can be interpreted as too small on a huge ship like this one. anyway ccp made a great work by putting some serious manhours into the looks of eve. prays that pc can run the graphics after the patch /edit: bypassing the wordfilter to adiquateley discribe the ships front section.
Kiviar Caldari Vice-Presidential Action Rangers	Posted - 2007.11.20 22:53:00 - [14] I like the new Raven. --- Forums are what?
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers	Posted - 2007.11.20 22:55:00 - [15] The Raven gets too much flak, personally I think it looks great. Old and New. Now the Moa hull that needs to be junked...well it kind of already is, it needs a redesign. ---- sig ---- Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world... Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
Zemeckis R	Posted - 2007.11.20 23:08:00 - [16] Edited by: Zemeckis R on 20/11/2007 23:08:40 it looks good, it's a very good looking ship i think you don't like it only 'couse it's asymmetric (not very much tho) open your mind
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.20 23:16:00 - [17] Omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg this almost looks like the ugly sansha battelship. That lack of symmetry is a pain .
Tha Pusher III ELEMENTS VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.20 23:26:00 - [18] naa, it certainly looks a tad bit better. the caldari ships are just sooooooo awful looking anyway there is little you can do, and anything would be an improvement. It looks like they also moved that stupid little tower to the back of the ship and made it a bit smaller also. The Anti-Pirates Pirate
Neon Genesis The Landed Gentry	Posted - 2007.11.20 23:31:00 - [19] If you have to have symmetry you are definately in the wrong game. _
Shardrael Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.11.21 00:00:00 - [20] Originally by: Neon Genesis If you have to have symmetry you are definately in the wrong game. and definetly wrong race :p
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2007.11.21 00:23:00 - [21] Too bad they didn't make the major geometery more symmetric- like the wings. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I
Excesse Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.11.21 00:23:00 - [22] Looks ****ing amazing if you ask me.
Aravel Thon	Posted - 2007.11.21 00:40:00 - [23] Im just an alt, i dont fly any ships However i agree with the poster who said the small front part looks like a single pilot***** pit (due to the largeass windows). As a battleship this looks really misleading. In addition, the left side of the raven is really small compared to the right. Im not sure if its just the angle but it looks like the left part got midgetized. Although i dont think it was great, i prefered the old model of how the two sides were almost the same size as opposed to now.
Centurion Redux Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.21 01:24:00 - [24] At least it dosent have that one central stupid looking thruster anymore.
LUH 3471	Posted - 2007.11.21 01:46:00 - [25] i really like the new raven except those mega huge*****it windows are aittle bit distutrbing thats if it is windows and not something else but for me it looks like windows and it just doesnt fit
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.21 01:51:00 - [26] Originally by: Neon Genesis If you have to have symmetry you are definately in the wrong game. Why do you think so ? Symmetry looks good to humans as they are symmetric themselves. If you don't have a symmetric face, you are ugly. You find symmetry everywhere humans made, the palace of versaille is a good example for it's perfection. Almost all human-created vehicles are symmetric. Almost all spaceships you see in SiFi movies are symmetric (e.g. etnerprise, emperial ships in star wars, vipers, cyclons in battelstar gallactica etc.) ... so why exactly is him, who seeked symmetry, in the wrong game ? I think we caldaris suffer of a lack of symmetry because the designer of caldari ships was too much influenced by "modern art".
Incantare Caldari Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.11.21 01:54:00 - [27] Nah it looks better. Though they should've done something with the neck.
08891	Posted - 2007.11.21 02:10:00 - [28] It's still ugly imo.
Neon Genesis The Landed Gentry	Posted - 2007.11.21 02:44:00 - [29] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Originally by: Neon Genesis If you have to have symmetry you are definately in the wrong game. Why do you think so ? Symmetry looks good to humans as they are symmetric themselves. If you don't have a symmetric face, you are ugly. You find symmetry everywhere humans made, the palace of versaille is a good example for it's perfection. Almost all human-created vehicles are symmetric. Almost all spaceships you see in SiFi movies are symmetric (e.g. etnerprise, emperial ships in star wars, vipers, cyclons in battelstar gallactica etc.) ... so why exactly is him, who seeked symmetry, in the wrong game ? I think we caldaris suffer of a lack of symmetry because the designer of caldari ships was too much influenced by "modern art". Take a look at every ship in the game eve-online (no-where else), and then give me a count of how many are symmetrical. _
Jangizal Caldari NYIT Gangstaz SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.21 03:07:00 - [30] The new raven looks good to me. I am a huge fan of the new ship styles coming in Trinity. It would be wise to keep in mind the ship designs are still a work in progress, so that's probably not what it's actually going to look like in-game. Blog.
Valentina Gallatoire	Posted - 2007.11.21 03:31:00 - [31] Edited by: Valentina Gallatoire on 21/11/2007 03:31:08 Actually people are not symmetrical. Indeed, according to a University of Regensberg study, facial symmetry is at best a weak indicator of attractiveness. http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/symmetrie/symmetrie.htm
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.21 04:18:00 - [32] Originally by: Neon Genesis Take a look at every ship in the game eve-online (no-where else), and then give me a count of how many are symmetrical. Almost all gallente and amarr ships are symmetrical (good examples are the megathron and the nyx), most of the shuttles, and even some caldari ships, such as the drake, the merlin, the rokh, the caracal, the chimera, the phoenix etc. Sure, some of them are not 100% symmetrical, but it's only if you look very close (for example the ferox has one jet power-unit more on the left side than on the right, but still looks quite symmetrical compared to the sansha battelship). @Valentina Gallatoire: of course humans are symmetrical, they have 2 eyes, 2 hands 2 legs etc. It's a biological being, you can't demand that every square millimeter of one side of the body is identical with the counterpart of the other side - it's naturally symmetrical and your article backs up, that symmetry has an impact on beauty. At least a human would be seen as ugly, if he were extremely unsymmetrical, so to get that analogy back to ships, a little deviation here and there is ok, that does not make something being ugly, but if it's absolutely unsymmetrical, like the new raven, it looks ugly to the human eye. I don't ask for perfect symmetry but that new raven is way too unsymmetrical, it hurts the eye a bit. Almost like that sansha ships, which probably are intentional made ugly.
Adrian Steel Caldari The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.11.21 05:32:00 - [33] Originally by: Corphus the only thing i can argue about here is that the ravens head is looking like a one-man c.ockpit. well maybe its just the angle but if this look is final i guess some small "window indicating" lights would be better to underline the size of the section. its a battleship and there shouldnt be sections which can be interpreted as too small on a huge ship like this one. I would think it to be a large observation deck...
Neon Genesis The Landed Gentry	Posted - 2007.11.21 05:35:00 - [34] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Originally by: Neon Genesis Take a look at every ship in the game eve-online (no-where else), and then give me a count of how many are symmetrical. Almost all gallente and amarr ships are symmetrical (good examples are the megathron and the nyx), most of the shuttles, and even some caldari ships, such as the drake, the merlin, the rokh, the caracal, the chimera, the phoenix etc. Sure, some of them are not 100% symmetrical, but it's only if you look very close (for example the ferox has one jet power-unit more on the left side than on the right, but still looks quite symmetrical compared to the sansha battelship). @Valentina Gallatoire: of course humans are symmetrical, they have 2 eyes, 2 hands 2 legs etc. It's a biological being, you can't demand that every square millimeter of one side of the body is identical with the counterpart of the other side - it's naturally symmetrical and your article backs up, that symmetry has an impact on beauty. At least a human would be seen as ugly, if he were extremely unsymmetrical, so to get that analogy back to ships, a little deviation here and there is ok, that does not make something being ugly, but if it's absolutely unsymmetrical, like the new raven, it looks ugly to the human eye. I don't ask for perfect symmetry but that new raven is way too unsymmetrical, it hurts the eye a bit. Almost like that sansha ships, which probably are intentional made ugly. Well I didn't mean that all of them were, just that there is a lot of variation and we don't have to be another generic sci-fi game with only ships that look like jet fighters. Personally I don't find the Raven nasty to look at. Theres no point in making blanket comments like 'it looks ugly to the human eye', because it dosn't fit into your idea of what a spaceship should look like. _
Mastin Dragonfly Bloodthorn Voyages	Posted - 2007.11.21 06:28:00 - [35] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg this almost looks like the ugly sansha battelship. That lack of symmetry is a pain . Funny how the Nightmare is completely symmetrical...
Aravel Thon	Posted - 2007.11.21 06:56:00 - [36] Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg this almost looks like the ugly sansha battelship. That lack of symmetry is a pain . Funny how the Nightmare is completely symmetrical... As is the succubus, and the phantasm ;)
Bellicose Gallente Beets and Gravy Syndicate Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.11.21 09:42:00 - [37] megathron isent same on both sides it got that huge "air intake" on the one side too lazy to resize signature clicky clicky instead
Voculus E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.11.21 10:32:00 - [38] Dazzling new textures on a hideous and lazy design. Proof that you can't polish a turd. _________________________________________________________
Captain Plumb	Posted - 2007.11.21 10:46:00 - [39] Looks just as angular and asymetrical as before, except with better textures. i like it :)
Misina Arlath	Posted - 2007.11.21 11:01:00 - [40] I prefer symmetrical ships by far. A few designs look alright with the appendixes or random "hair" sticking out. Granted, building a ship asymmetrical has little or no difference when it comes to moving around in space, since there is no need for an aerodynamic frame to counter wind resistance and such. Still, I always like it best when my ship looks like it actually had some design behind it and not just random blocks and modules puzzled together the day after a bachelor party.
Twin blade Minmatar The Triangle Exa Nation	Posted - 2007.11.21 12:18:00 - [41] Other than the bridge ? thingy the new raven looks fecking great how can you say its ugly. !
Meja Acurro	Posted - 2007.11.21 13:10:00 - [42] I find it better than the old one, I also noticed the "shuttle"*****pit, but in general its an improvement. I still havent gotten used to the unsymetrical shape myself of the Raven, but thats not important, whats important is that it has the best stats for a PVE ship, and to take a hit on the ugly side is well deserved beeing that good a mission ship. We cant have it both ways... then everyone wanna get one, and thats a scenario I dont wanna play in... its way too many Raven`s parked in Motsu already.. I`ll try to push my Tempest trough the heap of Raven`s now ... ciao!
Gerod Theron	Posted - 2007.11.21 13:21:00 - [43] Originally by: Voculus Dazzling new textures on a hideous and lazy design. Proof that you can't polish a turd. I couldn't have said it better my self.
Lord Zoran Caldari CrAzyF1sTs	Posted - 2007.11.21 13:27:00 - [44] Originally by: Bellicose megathron isent same on both sides it got that huge "air intake" on the one side further proof that it is in fact a car which ccp will make irl in the future on a serious note the raven looks better, still not as good as some other ships but its definately an improvement --------------------------------------------- no sig for you !!! Yarr!?!?!?!?!
Sobach Gallente Fourth Circle Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.11.21 13:36:00 - [45] beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, there's no absolute scale to measure whether something looks good or not, so arguing about this is pointless.
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2007.11.21 14:28:00 - [46] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Almost all gallente ships are symmetrical The drone boats are. The blaster boats and other variants all have minor to obvious asymmetrical features. So I wouldn't call it 'almost all'. Quote: Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.

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