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Wot I Think
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.31 01:47:00 -
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Jita and Amarr are 184 lightyears apart. A freighter leaves Jita traveling towards Amarr, and another freighter leaves Amarr at the same time, traveling towards Jita. The freighter leaving Jita averages 10 lightyears per hour more than the other, and they meet after 1 hour 36 minutes. What are the average speeds of the freighters? |

Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.01.31 01:49:00 -
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Autopilot slow. They both get smartbombed at various gates. |

met worst
The Drongo Club
120
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Posted - 2012.01.31 02:00:00 -
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Wot I Think wrote:Jita and Amarr are 184 lightyears apart. A freighter leaves Jita traveling towards Amarr, and another freighter leaves Amarr at the same time, traveling towards Jita. The freighter leaving Jita averages 10 lightyears per hour more than the other, and they meet after 1 hour 36 minutes. What are the average speeds of the freighters? There's a train 1 mile long travelling at 60 miles per hour and it enters a tunnel that is 1 mile long.
How long till the train exists the tunnel? |

Hainnz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
72
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Posted - 2012.01.31 02:04:00 -
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CCP was nice enough to give us a calculator in-game. In the spirit of EVE, they have given you the tools to figure out such problems for yourself. :) |

gfldex
306
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Posted - 2012.01.31 02:05:00 -
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met worst wrote:There's a train 1 mile long travelling at 60 miles per hour and it enters a tunnel that is 1 mile long.
How long till the train exists the tunnel?
Is that a nautical mile or a land mile? The game has a tutorial that gives you a mining laser and a railgun and tells you to go shoot rocks and red crosses. It teaches you nothing else. It's been that way for 8 years, so are you really surprised that there are people who aren't aware that this is a pvp game? --Jafit McJafitson |

MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
155
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Posted - 2012.01.31 02:07:00 -
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I was told there wouldn't be any math. Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |

Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
323
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Posted - 2012.01.31 02:23:00 -
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The sky is blue. Derive Avogadro's number. |

MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
108
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Posted - 2012.01.31 02:24:00 -
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Trick question, all pilots start with Jita being a blocked site, the freighter from Amarr never arrives. I know I left a battleship in this station. Wait, you can put ships in Station Containers? ****! I just trashed them. |

Brock Nelson
321
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Posted - 2012.01.31 02:26:00 -
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Where do the freighter collide and kill everyone onboard? I don't always like to modify my sell order but when I do, I like to spin my mouse wheel |

Alara IonStorm
1510
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Posted - 2012.01.31 02:32:00 -
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Brock Nelson wrote:Where do the freighter collide and kill everyone onboard? I thought EVE Ships were made of Rubber.
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Dirk Magnum
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
200
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Posted - 2012.01.31 02:33:00 -
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INTELLIGENT DESIGN. "For example, if you are thinking about selling a Republic Fleet Firetail as a regular Firetail, be sure that the market volume is high on regular Firetails and that there are plenty of buy/sell contracts for Republic Fleet Firetails. [...] The players most interested in Republic Fleet Firetails are going to be players flying regular ones."-á -- PB |

Brock Nelson
321
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Posted - 2012.01.31 02:35:00 -
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Dirk Magnum wrote:INTELLIGENT DESIGN.
I snickered I don't always like to modify my sell order but when I do, I like to spin my mouse wheel |

Gregory Brunswick
Enlightened Enterprise
0
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Posted - 2012.01.31 03:17:00 -
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Approximately 55 light years an hour is the average for the two ships shmucks.
Anyone want to confirm? |

Hecatonis
Ascension Manufacturing
50
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Posted - 2012.01.31 03:21:00 -
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62.5 for the faster ship 52.5 for the slower one
what do i win
edit: and no i didnt cheat and use the internet. give another plz |

trexinatux
Bipedal Carnivore Club
23
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Posted - 2012.01.31 03:26:00 -
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Both are ganked. New Eden will never know. Helpless people on subway trains... |

Gregory Brunswick
Enlightened Enterprise
0
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Posted - 2012.01.31 03:35:00 -
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Oh hey brock i was just talking with you and your alt. |

Gregory Brunswick
Enlightened Enterprise
0
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Posted - 2012.01.31 03:47:00 -
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184 ----- meet at time 1h 36m --- a is traveling at 10 lyh faster than b or 2y + 10
D = R x T
D= 184 light years
R= D/T
T = 1 h 36 m
What do we have? Distance, and time.
184/ 1.67 hrs = 110.18 light years an hour
110.18 light years an hour is the rate of the two combined
110.18 = 2y +10
100.18 = 2y <---- rounding it down for simplicity
100 = 2y
50 = y
a = 50, b = 60 (remember one is going 10 light years per hour faster than the other)
(50 + 60)/ 2 = 55
Someone please confirm or point out error in logic. |

RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1336
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Posted - 2012.01.31 04:16:00 -
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met worst wrote:Wot I Think wrote:Jita and Amarr are 184 lightyears apart. A freighter leaves Jita traveling towards Amarr, and another freighter leaves Amarr at the same time, traveling towards Jita. The freighter leaving Jita averages 10 lightyears per hour more than the other, and they meet after 1 hour 36 minutes. What are the average speeds of the freighters? There's a train 1 mile long travelling at 60 miles per hour and it enters a tunnel that is 1 mile long. How long till the train exists the tunnel?
There's a 12ft long car and a 6ft long garage with a door on each end. How fast does the car need to be going (relative to the garage) to fit inside with both doors closed, and does the car shrink or the garage stretch? Single-Shard, Player Driven Sandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special in my eyes. |

stoicfaux
699
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Posted - 2012.01.31 04:34:00 -
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Gregory Brunswick wrote: T = 1 h 36 m
What do we have? Distance, and time.
184/ 1.67 hrs = 110.18 light years an hour
Someone please confirm or point out error in logic. I'm willing to bet that no one is going to lol.
Incorrect. You have an error in logic. 1h 36m = 96m = 1.6hr. You used 1.67hrs.
Average speed is (52.5 + 62.5) / 2 = 57.5 ly/hr. The meet after Freighter1 travels 84ly and Freighter2 travels 100ly.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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NaturalBeast
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2012.01.31 04:41:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Gregory Brunswick wrote: T = 1 h 36 m
What do we have? Distance, and time.
184/ 1.67 hrs = 110.18 light years an hour
Someone please confirm or point out error in logic. I'm willing to bet that no one is going to lol.
Incorrect. You have an error in logic. 1h 36m = 96m = 1.6hr. You used 1.67hrs. Average speed is (52.5 + 62.5) / 2 = 57.5 ly/hr. The meet after Freighter1 travels 84ly and Freighter2 travels 100ly.
You know that kid that sat at the front of the class answering all them questions. You know you are that kid, right?
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Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2012.01.31 04:42:00 -
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OP hasn't explained the relative position or movement of the observers and wether or not a Lorentz transformation needs to be applied to the process. |

Spineker
145
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Posted - 2012.01.31 04:45:00 -
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If I start drinking Ale with 3 gulps at a time how long until the bottle is empty? |

Gregory Brunswick
Enlightened Enterprise
0
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Posted - 2012.01.31 04:46:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Gregory Brunswick wrote: T = 1 h 36 m
What do we have? Distance, and time.
184/ 1.67 hrs = 110.18 light years an hour
Someone please confirm or point out error in logic. I'm willing to bet that no one is going to lol.
Incorrect. You have an error in logic. 1h 36m = 96m = 1.6hr. You used 1.67hrs. Average speed is (52.5 + 62.5) / 2 = 57.5 ly/hr. The meet after Freighter1 travels 84ly and Freighter2 travels 100ly.
Dumb mistake on my part. Thanks for pointing it out. I wouldn't call it a error in logic however. The logic was sound, the error was in converting the minutes into a fraction of an hour. |

Gregory Brunswick
Enlightened Enterprise
0
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Posted - 2012.01.31 04:50:00 -
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Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:OP hasn't explained the relative position or movement of the observers and wether or not a Lorentz transformation needs to be applied to the process.
I actually heard scientists made a similar mistake recently where they did not take into account the spinning of the earth (or movement of earth through space, don't recall exactly). Easy thing to miss :) |

Aggressive Nutmeg
100
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Posted - 2012.01.31 06:44:00 -
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Wot I Think wrote:Jita and Amarr are 184 lightyears apart. A freighter leaves Jita traveling towards Amarr, and another freighter leaves Amarr at the same time, traveling towards Jita. The freighter leaving Jita averages 10 lightyears per hour more than the other, and they meet after 1 hour 36 minutes. What are the average speeds of the freighters? What do you mean? African or European freighter? Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |

Renturu
Tribal Spirit Tribal Unity Alliance
136
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Posted - 2012.01.31 07:21:00 -
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Neeerrrdddsss!!!!
/Trololol If EvE WiS is Space Barbie, then I'm built like a Ken Doll:
Nothin' but 14 inches of T'aint; Smooth, from front to butt!!! |

Elistea
G U N G N I R Y G G D R A S I L
52
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Posted - 2012.01.31 08:42:00 -
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What the hell is going on here?! |

Sephira Galamore
Nemesis Holdings Corp Luna Sanguinem
4
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Posted - 2012.01.31 09:04:00 -
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Wot I Think wrote:Jita and Amarr are 184 lightyears apart. A freighter leaves Jita traveling towards Amarr, and another freighter leaves Amarr at the same time, traveling towards Jita. The freighter leaving Jita averages 10 lightyears per hour more than the other, and they meet after 1 hour 36 minutes. What are the average speeds of the freighters?
10 ly / h diifference -> 16 ly difference after 1:36h 184 ly - 16 ly / 2 = 84 ly
Thus.. Slow freighter: 84 ly in 1:36h = 52.5 ly / h Less slow freighter: 100 ly in 1:36 = 62.5 ly / h
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Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
87
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Posted - 2012.01.31 09:19:00 -
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Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:Wot I Think wrote:Jita and Amarr are 184 lightyears apart. A freighter leaves Jita traveling towards Amarr, and another freighter leaves Amarr at the same time, traveling towards Jita. The freighter leaving Jita averages 10 lightyears per hour more than the other, and they meet after 1 hour 36 minutes. What are the average speeds of the freighters? What do you mean? African or European freighter? What do you mean? African or European freighter swallow? Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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W1rlW1nd
The Scope Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2012.01.31 09:20:00 -
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met worst wrote:...
How long till the train exists the tunnel?
If the tunnel doesn't exist yet, then I think the train will be instantly destroyed upon attempt to "enter" it. So, A. infinity?
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Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
292
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Posted - 2012.01.31 09:25:00 -
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What about the star gates? Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |

Shizuken
Venerated Stars
58
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Posted - 2012.01.31 09:29:00 -
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Brock Nelson wrote:Dirk Magnum wrote:INTELLIGENT DESIGN. I snickered
Lol me too
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Cass Lie
State War Academy Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.01.31 09:30:00 -
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Sephira Galamore wrote:Wot I Think wrote:Jita and Amarr are 184 lightyears apart. A freighter leaves Jita traveling towards Amarr, and another freighter leaves Amarr at the same time, traveling towards Jita. The freighter leaving Jita averages 10 lightyears per hour more than the other, and they meet after 1 hour 36 minutes. What are the average speeds of the freighters? 10 ly / h diifference -> 16 ly difference after 1:36h 184 ly - 16 ly / 2 = 84 ly Thus.. Slow freighter: 84 ly in 1:36h = 52.5 ly / h Less slow freighter: 100 ly in 1:36 = 62.5 ly / h
With those speeds they would meet way before they undocked (in a suitable reference frame). |

ACE McFACE
Acetech Systems
563
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Posted - 2012.01.31 09:39:00 -
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gfldex wrote:met worst wrote:There's a train 1 mile long travelling at 60 miles per hour and it enters a tunnel that is 1 mile long.
How long till the train exists the tunnel? Is that a nautical mile or a land mile? A proper Kilometre
Also, how many people get off at Boston on the way to New York in these freighters? Real men wear goggles and a Navy shirt! |

Sadayiel
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
52
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Posted - 2012.01.31 09:58:00 -
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Wot I Think wrote:Jita and Amarr are 184 lightyears apart. A freighter leaves Jita traveling towards Amarr, and another freighter leaves Amarr at the same time, traveling towards Jita. The freighter leaving Jita averages 10 lightyears per hour more than the other, and they meet after 1 hour 36 minutes. What are the average speeds of the freighters?
We lack serious data to provide a reliable answer!!!
Do both fly in autopilot or manual all the way in? Do both pilots have Adv spaceship command maxed or not? Do both pilots have the same navigation skills? Do both pilots fly alone or some corpie it's webbing them at gates? Do both pilots are being bumped for fun by some bored capsuleer? Do both pilots have the proper clearance papers, or will some gate delay they warp in? Do both pilots carry something worthy to be ganked? Do Jita pilot GET OR NOT STUCK in Jita 4-4 after trying to warp to perimeter stargate? (personal exp i swear)
Can provide more variants to prove how incomplete your original data is but i'm not bored enough  |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4716
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Posted - 2012.01.31 10:06:00 -
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Elistea wrote:What the hell is going on here?! GǪwith maths! GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Grukni
Shimai of New Eden
46
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Posted - 2012.01.31 10:26:00 -
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Faster than light travelling?
They collided in the past |

Xanatia
Mindelan Heavy Industry
11
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Posted - 2012.01.31 10:38:00 -
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what method is being used to verify that each ship leaves at the same time? how does this method hold up under the laws of relativity? what method is being used to measure the relative velocities of the freighters? are the freighters using a shortest route or are there any anomalies they have to avoid? where is the observer relative to the freighters? |

Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers Axiom Solaris
103
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Posted - 2012.01.31 10:42:00 -
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My exact thoughts as soon as I read that. |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
382
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Posted - 2012.01.31 10:47:00 -
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How long is a piece of string ?
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
196
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Posted - 2012.01.31 13:07:00 -
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42
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4718
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Posted - 2012.01.31 13:10:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:How long is a piece of string ? From one end to the other.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
507
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Posted - 2012.01.31 13:16:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Thorn Galen wrote:How long is a piece of string ? From one end to the other.
I like your string theory. This is my signature.-á There are many others like it, but this one is mine. |

Kayleigh Lothian
The Risen corp NEM3SIS.
3
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Posted - 2012.01.31 13:25:00 -
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Sadayiel wrote:[quote=Wot I Think] Do Jita pilot GET OR NOT STUCK in Jita 4-4 after trying to warp to perimeter stargate? (personal exp i swear)

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Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
4
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Posted - 2012.01.31 14:03:00 -
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Xanatia wrote:what method is being used to verify that each ship leaves at the same time? how does this method hold up under the laws of relativity? what method is being used to measure the relative velocities of the freighters? are the freighters using a shortest route or are there any anomalies they have to avoid? where is the observer relative to the freighters? And omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent and omnimalevolent being (Goes by the title of Developer) is telling is we're right. |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
996
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Posted - 2012.01.31 14:06:00 -
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This guy wins. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
555
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Posted - 2012.01.31 14:19:00 -
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the slower freighter uses a neutrino drive and arrives earlier than expected. a new bounty system for eve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |

Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
198
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Posted - 2012.01.31 14:27:00 -
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Seeing as how special relativity is a theory, and has no laws...nothing exceeds the speed of light except...time is relative to the kind of watch you're using...speed is determined by the calibration of each individual instrument...I'd say we have an unworkable problem here.
How high is up? If two people leave Omaha at the same time, one hits all the bars, the other hits all the bordellos, who ends up in Kansas City first?
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

Ammzi
Commanding Wall Wall of Shadow
800
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Posted - 2012.01.31 14:45:00 -
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Huh.... nothing is faster than light! quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Kinis Deren
EVE University Ivy League
25
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Posted - 2012.01.31 14:47:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:How long is a piece of string ?
According to M Theor0y, approximately the Planck length, or 16.162+ù10 ^ GêÆ36 m
Ninja edit for typo  |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
800
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Posted - 2012.01.31 14:54:00 -
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met worst wrote:How long till the train exists the tunnel?
How does a train exist a tunnel?
You're verbing that wrong. |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
800
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Posted - 2012.01.31 14:56:00 -
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Kinis Deren wrote:Thorn Galen wrote:How long is a piece of string ?
According to M Theor0y, approximately the Planck length, or 16.162+ù10 ^ GêÆ36 m Ninja edit for typo 
I thought the string was a planck length in diameter, but could be infinitely long. Or am I thinking of superstrings?
It's been a while since I wasted hours reading physics books for no real reason. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
508
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Posted - 2012.01.31 15:18:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:met worst wrote:How long till the train exists the tunnel? How does a train exist a tunnel? You're verbing that wrong.
Without a train, there would've been no reason for that tunnel to exist. This is my signature.-á There are many others like it, but this one is mine. |

stoicfaux
701
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Posted - 2012.01.31 15:24:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:How long is a piece of string ?
Infinite, if you tie it into a loop and don't pay attention when measuring it.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Naga Elohim
Modern Mining Industries Space Mongolians
2
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Posted - 2012.01.31 16:12:00 -
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OVER 9000!?!?! |

Shawnm339
Galactic Shipyards Inc NEM3SIS.
50
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Posted - 2012.01.31 16:33:00 -
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It's at this point jocks would run up behind you guys and pull your trousers down.....though of course all the nerds have 6 figure salary executive roles and the jocks are angry police officers or security guards |
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