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xRazoRx
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.11.22 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: xRazoRx on 22/11/2007 13:51:12
I'm in ur belts, scrambling ur hunting carriers.
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Darkopteron
Fatalix Inc.
THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.22 14:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
Funny thing is that frege is now living in XZH which is probally a 100% boost to their income.
Actually the reckoning dropped their moms in, and demanded XZH (the single good ratting system in cloud ring) and then napped and gave frege the 9-4 outpost.
But yeah drone regions... you need a decent alliance infrastructure to make it worthwhile. As there's no module drops you need to build everything, which means setting up several production POS's, and having access to a refinery. On the plus side it means you can turn your ratting directly into new ships instead of having to mine or place mineral buy orders, or haul minerals in from empire.
It's not the sort of place you go to on your own to make quick isk, the drone regions require you to settle there and get set up. Therefore it's more suited to alliances with a greater proportion of industrialists and people who generally aren't that interested in pvp, at least not any further than defending your home systems. This still generates pvp because it means entities like smash, rk, and ka-tet can send up roaming gangs and pick off ratters, haulers, and any people that bother to try and defend them.
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.11.22 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: entropykaos
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
Funny thing is that frege is now living in XZH which is probally a 100% boost to their income.
They were given that system and it was not given to them for nothing.
Wel considering Cloud rings rich minerals a decent alliance... a forget it we are talking about frege here. At least its better then lootting while ratting and still have to build all the things you need.
As i see it nor frege or Reckoning is using cloud ring to its full potential, another region wasted to some random NPC ravens
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Dah' Khanid
Conisor Excavations Syndicate
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.11.22 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Dah'' Khanid on 22/11/2007 15:52:56
Points being made in this great thread so far:
- Drone regions suck
- Mostly because Atlas lives so close to us now
- But mostly because people say so in general
- And mostly because it's not very funny to sell drone p o o for ISK in empire, you get mocked by CNR mission runners
- Furthermore,
- SMASH also lives somewhere near but I hear they are dead anyways
- And as being pointed out by the OP you can actually make billions here you just need to go down with a depression first and then buy some ISK from the local macroers when you figure out that you can't actually make a single penny here on your own, but somehow they can which makes you a very, very sad panda and you get sent to an island where all these crazy mascots run around but mostly you just sit docked in station and wait for the casual hostile to come by but when he finnaly comes you find out he's just docked and is a remnant of some dead alliance you kicked out but really shouldn't have because now there's noone around to kill anymore because they have all gone to empire to make some isk again
- Because drone regions suck
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Moloc
Antares Fleet Yards
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.22 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
But you did a great job kickin frege out of the drone region space. I mean you and your friends had a nice train going to kick out an alliance known for its incompetence, not to mention that you needed at least another two alliances and that the turncoats and asset addicated didnt make it to hard for your lil alliance.
In the end drone regions are probally richer then geminate...
SMASHKill didn't kick FREGE out of the drone regions, we fought against 11+ alliances in MJ-, when we showed up to NGM, FREGE just opened the back door and quietly snuck out... It was more a case of post MJ- they were in major decline, and we showed up to witness the implosion. Blood in the water so to speak.
MJ- was awesome, one of my industry guys got 160+ kills in a week. NGM was pretty boring, not much of anything happening.
It's funny how an economist looks at eve and thinks, the price of trit is at record highs, but it's capped. We must remove the cap. Anyone who looks at it from the perspective of a GAME would see that the SUPPLY needs to be increased, not the demand. It's already silly that all of the lowsec ores are far less valuable than highsec ores... and then he describes with amazement the high percentage of people in highsec as opposed to lowsec and 0.0.... And with the other hand continues to push more people back to highsec.
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Factor Benz
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.22 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Peoke
well i guess being lolz as smash head i should quit eve. but wait all those alliance weve killed, sent to empire read thier whines in eve o makes up for it.
You should quit eve. You should also provide a list of alliances SMASH has killed. Please. I'd like to see it.
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Dr Bernard
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Posted - 2007.11.22 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Digicomm
Will any self decent alliance out there kick those .2 nubs out and actually make a home there, sounds like it will be a pretty kick ass place to live. Could be an industrial alliance(s) wet dream.
And these so called nub alliances are not industrial based ?
Why would any 'kick ass' alliance want that space ? so they can turn themselves into industrialists ?
As has been said already,
) You do NOT make 3-7m isk per BS, if you didn't know mineral drops got rebalanced.
) Isk making relies on logistics to empire and is vulnerable, how ****ed would you be if your carrier got trapped carrying several billion in zydrine ?
) You need lots of POSs to build stuff with
) Its incredibly boring
) Exploration is not the great isk farm you make it out to be - have you tried sitting in systems for hours on end on the off chance you get an escalating site ? I have it sucks
) You think meta drones are going to compare to faction loot ?
Any 'uber' alliance would do best to make a deal with these 'nubs' for cap ships and keep their player base in PvP then go and secure somewhere decent like Feythabolis. Now thats a region worth having.
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Digicomm
The Digital Communists
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Posted - 2007.11.22 22:03:00 -
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And these so called nub alliances are not industrial based ?
Yes they are too industrial based, very heavily industrial based and are making more per week and month than most larger o.o alliances. They will be making a hell ofalot more after trinity.
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Why would any 'kick ass' alliance want that space ? so they can turn themselves into industrialists ?
No douche, like all great pvp corps they are well rounded and do all things well, you have lads that run complexes, you have lads that run exploration sites, manuafacturing etc etc, you can't just focus on one thing. Which is excatly what some of you drone *****s do now. You bears need an eviction.
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As has been said already,
) You do NOT make 3-7m isk per BS, if you didn't know mineral drops got rebalanced.
Yes, yes you can. Not per BS fool per belt spawn which is more than other regions non officer spawns.
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) Isk making relies on logistics to empire and is vulnerable, how ****ed would you be if your carrier got trapped carrying several billion in zydrine ?
If I am piloting a carrier worth several billion carring several billion in lewt I aint gonna be too worried because my really expensive logistics carrier will get paid for many many many times over. Sure you might get ganked, thats a risk anywhere in eve...man up ffs and quit being a whimp.
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) You need lots of POSs to build stuff with
Again man up ffs, you need pos's anywhere you live. Yes more so in the drone regions, if you want to secure your space well you best fortify it. If you want to run moon mining to the enth degree like RuleofNubs then you will look like greedy fgts...like they do.
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) Its incredibly boring
yadda yadda...it won't be soon. The buff the Drone regions are getting will definately make that area the nice place to live.
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) Exploration is not the great isk farm you make it out to be - have you tried sitting in systems for hours on end on the off chance you get an escalating site ? I have it sucks
No you suck at eve is all. Exploration is there to rid the Sunday evening of monotony, some people do it other then ratting on a off night from pvp. Its a fun alternative.
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) You think meta drones are going to compare to faction loot ?
Yup, more so. Drone are those tiny tiny things that float around your pvp ships and pwn things.
Dude, step awaaaay from the keyboard.
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Any 'uber' alliance would do best to make a deal with these 'nubs' for cap ships and keep their player base in PvP then go and secure somewhere decent like Feythabolis. Now thats a region worth having.
Someone will evict you fgts eventually. I for one will roflles when it happens. Feyth...lots of places to undock, tons of juicy Angels but people have done the regualar o.o regions for ever now...maybe some will want a change.
Why let the pubbies have all the fun?
Sup bran.
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar
Fnck the blob.
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Posted - 2007.11.22 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dah' Khanid
Edited by: Dah'' Khanid on 22/11/2007 15:52:56
Points being made in this great thread so far:
- Drone regions suck
- Mostly because Atlas lives so close to us now
- But mostly because people say so in general
- And mostly because it's not very funny to sell drone p o o for ISK in empire, you get mocked by CNR mission runners
- Furthermore,
- SMASH also lives somewhere near but I hear they are dead anyways
- And as being pointed out by the OP you can actually make billions here you just need to go down with a depression first and then buy some ISK from the local macroers when you figure out that you can't actually make a single penny here on your own, but somehow they can which makes you a very, very sad panda and you get sent to an island where all these crazy mascots run around but mostly you just sit docked in station and wait for the casual hostile to come by but when he finnaly comes you find out he's just docked and is a remnant of some dead alliance you kicked out but really shouldn't have because now there's noone around to kill anymore because they have all gone to empire to make some isk again
- Because drone regions suck
Yep
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GruvRyder
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Posted - 2007.11.23 04:26:00 -
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I have been ratting around Drones Region.
Unless you have a carrier to jump your alloys out to empire. You get like 50% chance to bring your alloys to empire and hopes there is no gate camps and all the people around are your friends. Drones Region to Empire maybe an awfully more than 20 jumps.
a Large Secure Container of 3,900m3 filled with alloys (around 10-12 Drone BS kills / 1-2hours) is worth like 40-50M ISK each. Yes, it is nice but consider your logistics. Where in other Regions, Bounty Rats + loots (repro) could be more.
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Mayalla
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.11.23 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dah' Khanid
Edited by: Dah'' Khanid on 22/11/2007 15:52:56
Points being made in this great thread so far:
- Drone regions suck
- Mostly because Atlas lives so close to us now
- But mostly because people say so in general
- And mostly because it's not very funny to sell drone p o o for ISK in empire, you get mocked by CNR mission runners
- Furthermore,
- SMASH also lives somewhere near but I hear they are dead anyways
- And as being pointed out by the OP you can actually make billions here you just need to go down with a depression first and then buy some ISK from the local macroers when you figure out that you can't actually make a single penny here on your own, but somehow they can which makes you a very, very sad panda and you get sent to an island where all these crazy mascots run around but mostly you just sit docked in station and wait for the casual hostile to come by but when he finnaly comes you find out he's just docked and is a remnant of some dead alliance you kicked out but really shouldn't have because now there's noone around to kill anymore because they have all gone to empire to make some isk again
- Because drone regions suck
this...
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Sabian Treehugger
Minmatar
Omega Enterprises
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.11.23 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dah' Khanid
Edited by: Dah'' Khanid on 22/11/2007 15:52:56
Points being made in this great thread so far:
- Drone regions suck
- Mostly because Atlas lives so close to us now
- But mostly because people say so in general
- And mostly because it's not very funny to sell drone p o o for ISK in empire, you get mocked by CNR mission runners
- Furthermore,
- SMASH also lives somewhere near but I hear they are dead anyways
- And as being pointed out by the OP you can actually make billions here you just need to go down with a depression first and then buy some ISK from the local macroers when you figure out that you can't actually make a single penny here on your own, but somehow they can which makes you a very, very sad panda and you get sent to an island where all these crazy mascots run around but mostly you just sit docked in station and wait for the casual hostile to come by but when he finnaly comes you find out he's just docked and is a remnant of some dead alliance you kicked out but really shouldn't have because now there's noone around to kill anymore because they have all gone to empire to make some isk again
- Because drone regions suck
100% truth
And lol @ Smaskill e-peen.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.11.23 09:29:00 -
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It's too late, they seriously need to hotfix this now! I feel for the suckers out there fighting every day for the right to scoop the same ol' drone**** for the millionth time over.
Don't wait till some major patch, hotfix your faulty code today.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Reacz
Caldari
Empirius Enigmus Navy
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Posted - 2007.11.23 10:06:00 -
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Edited by: Reacz on 23/11/2007 10:06:39
Having been in a Drone Region alliance I can tell you several things:
- The Drone regions are the most boring desolate area of space in the whole EVE universe.
- PvP in the Drone regions amounts to speed gangs or cloakers, epic yawwwwnnn.
- Drone regions politics is the most f******* up thing I've ever bore witness too. The amount of backstabbing and asshattery is epic. With alliances becoming friends one day and enemies the next over stupid things like 'Ohhhh you shot my shuttle!!11'.
- Making money in the Drone regions without an alt is very hard, and very boring:
1) Go to belt
2) Kill Battleship Drones
3) Collect as much alloy as you can hold
4) Go back to the station
5) Undock and go and get the rest of the alloy you couldn't hold
6) Rinse and repeat
- Seeing how easily and fast SMASHKILL and Co took over alot of the region its surprising that any of the old original alliances still exist, but somehow they cling on.
- Even if Smash and Co do remove the rest, it seems the region just has the number '13' stamped on it. Its a desolate hell hole which seems to tear alliances apart either internally or externally. In the end the majority of Drone region alliances are just going to become giant mineral collectors for the bigger alliances of EVE, and lets face it, it works.
As for buffs. I don't think any amount of 'buffing' will make that place anymore attractive to anyone other than alliances which want an easy fight or somewhere for their first 0.0 'experience'.
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