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Digicomm
The Digital Communists
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Posted - 2007.11.22 03:18:00 -
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Just got around to watching some CCP propandras on the Trinity updates and whilst I was arosed by the sexy Icelandics one dude mentioned that the Drone regions are finally getting stuff like gas clouds and complexes and stuff. (dont know if they'll fix the asteriods or not)
My question is this.
Will any self decent alliance out there kick those .2 nubs out and actually make a home there, sounds like it will be a pretty kick ass place to live. Could be an industrial alliance(s) wet dream.
Here's the CCP propegandra vids. Icelandic hotties interviewz
Sup Bran o/
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Thomina Yorke
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.22 03:19:00 -
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The Trit nerfs in Trinity are only going to drive the price of highends down. So yeah, I guess you could establish yourself in the drone regions if you were really hardcore into exploration and/or moon mining, but just forget ratting and regular mining because you'd be better off mining mid-end ores, especially when Mega and Zyd spike below 1000 isk/u.
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Digicomm
The Digital Communists
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Posted - 2007.11.22 03:23:00 -
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Yeah but with all these new ships coming out and morph being abundant in that regions due to Battleship spawns a formidable alliance with a solid industrial backbone could make themselves very well to do.
No...?
Sup Mittens o/
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Graalum
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.22 03:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Thomina Yorke
The Trit nerfs in Trinity are only going to drive the price of highends down. So yeah, I guess you could establish yourself in the drone regions if you were really hardcore into exploration and/or moon mining, but just forget ratting and regular mining because you'd be better off mining mid-end ores, especially when Mega and Zyd spike below 1000 isk/u.
thank god for plush compounds
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Digicomm
The Digital Communists
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Posted - 2007.11.22 03:47:00 -
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Well that's what I mean. Minerals are basically free there, why are nubtards living there and reaping the rewards when someone like Tri for example who has a solid indy wing could be sitting on bajillions in mins. How many more titans and motherships are you going to let these empiric industrialist make for thine enemy.
I worked it out and even with mins at bare bottom low prices a BS spawn (in one belt) can yeild you 3-7m per in alloys, Thats just the average.
Think about it...
Mins make ships...ships + pvp = pwnage.
Id like to hear from some of the drone *****s that are in the regions on what corps pay each pilot for alloys. I know you all want to moan about min pricing...well you have options.
When you have a problem you have 2 options.
Solve it or get rid of it.
Wheres FrankFrank been?
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Bashiri
Point-Zero
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.22 03:55:00 -
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So should we kick everyone else out of the drone region your saying?
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Incinerator570
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.11.22 04:18:00 -
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The problem with asteroids only containing 100 ore units has been fixed for a while now.
The only problem with industry in the drone regions is Mexallon. The one and ONLY asteroid available that contains it is Gneiss, and it doesn't have very much of it either. The alloys dropped yields some, but again it's nowhere near enough to balance out everything else. It's possible CCP might rebalance minerals again, but better to err on the side of caution - if you want to live up here you will need to import large amounts of it.
As for the values of the alloys that rogue drone battleships drop, about half of your estimate would be closer to the truth. Still worth more than ratting for bounties though, if your corp has a mineral purchase program.
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Digicomm
The Digital Communists
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Posted - 2007.11.22 04:20:00 -
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Yes, Smash allaince should kick them all out.
No, dude...what I am saying is that this could be some prime time space. An alliances economy plus thier decent amount of player base could really exploit such a regions. Players could be rich as well as the alliance. With having loads of isk for ships.
Just something to think about.
The North is basically blue and napped its up for grabs kinda thing.
So yes, I am stating the obvious that's just never been stated.
WTF is bran yo?
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Koronos
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.22 04:26:00 -
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Bring it.
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Digicomm
The Digital Communists
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Posted - 2007.11.22 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: Incinerator570
The problem with asteroids only containing 100 ore units has been fixed for a while now.
The only problem with industry in the drone regions is Mexallon. The one and ONLY asteroid available that contains it is Gneiss, and it doesn't have very much of it either. The alloys dropped yields some, but again it's nowhere near enough to balance out everything else. It's possible CCP might rebalance minerals again, but better to err on the side of caution - if you want to live up here you will need to import large amounts of it.
As for the values of the alloys that rogue drone battleships drop, about half of your estimate would be closer to the truth. Still worth more than ratting for bounties though, if your corp has a mineral purchase program.
Agreed but you have to have a solid logistic commmand at your helm otherwise exporting mins/moon mins to jita would be tough as well. But its being done...and done on such a scale that one entire region(some weak alliances) influences the entire economy of eve (in terms of minerals/reactions/adv ship comps. No tinfoil hat here, this is common knowledge.
Isk is power!! if you have to export your many goods, than importanting 1 particular min seem pretty insignificant.
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Kitukia
Gallente
Trioptimum
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Posted - 2007.11.22 05:57:00 -
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I can count the number of "decent" alliances in the drone regions on three fingers, and I don't have to use them all.
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.22 06:09:00 -
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i am da nub in the OP.
thank you alt poster for callin me a nub.
o7
I driks lot
*signature removed- Jacques([email protected])*
Next mod that nerfs my sig gets a **** punch
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Digicomm
The Digital Communists
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Posted - 2007.11.22 06:13:00 -
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Smash-kill r okay, they pick on nubtarts for the most part but it's a sure fire way for ****s and giggles. They beat on frege which was cool, those tards had it coming.
In all honesty, RAgoon recloating thier nub pets/fodder would prolly be in thier best interests. There tons of isk to be had in the drone regions. I am sure we'll see more red in the drones before long.
Just a matter of time I suppose RA will need to expand thier isk farming corps in to the drone region. A massive isk boost is coming to the region it only makes sense.
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Digicomm
The Digital Communists
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Posted - 2007.11.22 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: dastommy79
i am da nub in the OP.
thank you alt poster for callin me a nub.
o7
Dasto sup fgt, missed you. I got banned soz.
Sup.
What do you think abut my Drone region Hypothesises?
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.22 06:25:00 -
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drone region is a logistic nightmare for an alliance. yes you hav potenial to make more is per bs spawn but not as much as you said. all depends on buy orders and corp buyouts on how much isk you earn. Cap pilots and jb give posibilitys for indivudals to make insane isk but for normal gunt its not realy there.
its an export econonmy. no isk to made there you have to import isk by selling your stuff with plays havoc on makert. its not easy place to live at all but with bff;s like smashkill and chaos its worth it for me. Isk means ****, friends mean everything in thsi game.
Yeah ccp tried to ban me too but i theratend to necro johny cochrane and they backed off. wb fgt
I driks lot
*signature removed- Jacques([email protected])*
Next mod that nerfs my sig gets a **** punch
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Stoned Runner
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.22 06:29:00 -
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So what you're saying is more pew pew ? That can't be bad! 
Less Is More |
Digicomm
The Digital Communists
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Posted - 2007.11.22 06:33:00 -
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awww. <3
I used to live in the drone regions. If your corp offers interal buys at 35% of min yield you can make a bil a week easy.
Problem is Drone region corps use market buys at insanely low prices, the pilots work for nearly nothing. The corps and thier logisitcs make the isk the pilots do the work.
Does atlas have internal buys for mins or alloys?
btw, props to RK but smash leadership is lulz.
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.22 06:55:00 -
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yeah we have internal buy orders on corp and alliance lvl. more convient to use the market for instant gratification. with the price of zydrin and megacyte dwon in empire, isk gains are not that much more as with bounty rats. also my sec status is going way down because of the lack of bounties. 2more low sec kills and i wont be ablte to enter jitat agian. wait maybe thats a good theing
I driks lot
*signature removed- Jacques([email protected])*
Next mod that nerfs my sig gets a **** punch
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Riddal
The Older Gamers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.22 08:09:00 -
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Yeah the drone regions are a bonanza. We make billions every hour....
And anyone can come out here and go ratting for alloys, we are nice friendly bunch.
I don't talk for my Corp or Alliance, but I don't mind ppl coming out here to rat.
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Graalum
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.22 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: Koronos
Bring it.
dude its already been brung.
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Graalum
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.22 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: dastommy79
yeah we have internal buy orders on corp and alliance lvl. more convient to use the market for instant gratification. with the price of zydrin and megacyte dwon in empire, isk gains are not that much more as with bounty rats. also my sec status is going way down because of the lack of bounties. 2more low sec kills and i wont be ablte to enter jitat agian. wait maybe thats a good theing
dude come rat with me
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Graalum
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.22 08:16:00 -
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dude i started 3 posts in a row with dude
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Atomic Ketchup
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2007.11.22 09:03:00 -
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drone regions, loool...
only for the truly insane.. (sorry, just find it boring as hell)
If drones gave sec stat and some kind of drops, maybe even the chance of some kind of faction gear i could see if being very valuable...
Otherwise CEO's are gonna have to dish out a lot of valium to keep their members in check...
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Alex Sosco
Best Path Inc.
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2007.11.22 10:21:00 -
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Sorry mate, but 1 bill a week???? Well im for a while in drone regions...and for that kinda money i would have to rat couple hours a day, which sucks btw...which mean less time for PvP. Also if somebody does have to work for living, its kinda hard to play EVE 24/7. Not said with dissrespect.
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RaV1N
Caldari
The Older Gamers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.11.22 11:07:00 -
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Well, drone regions is awesome for raw materials but you need some serious BPO's. As far as making billions an hour, where can I sign up man?
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7shining7one7
Quafe Paladins
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Posted - 2007.11.22 12:27:00 -
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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 22/11/2007 12:34:52
Yeah christmas sure comes early this year with the trinity updates like meta drones, new boosters n stuff like that which can only be made through cosmos exploration/probing, which will be seeded a lot of in the drone regions.
Drone regions, Exploration / booster manufacturing and the likes is gonna get a massive buff that way and get a whole lot more interesting. Finally putting that massive skilling to proper use.
Just hope these regions are not going to be completely "locked down", and that whoever is more dominant will be open for small specialized exploration corps wanting a contract. But i guess we'll see how it goes. It'll probably be allright since there's plenty of pew pew to go around afaik
just some thoughts, i'm not a big shot like you guys probably are, that have to speculate about the whole "can we hold these regions" deal, but i can show it from another perspective 
peace
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.22 12:48:00 -
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(i) you can make tons of isk anywhere in 0.0 with very little effort and/or you can set up a datacore farming character and make a decent level of isk with zero effort. Unless you want a personal MS there is just no need to bust a gut making isk.
(ii) there are a tiny number of decent 0.0 alliances with a solid industrial element in the game and those that exist are either engaged in war atm or happy where they are.
(iii) no-one that has lost their space recently is remotely capable of taking and holding any drone region space.
(iv) rattng in the drone regions is incredibly dull and as soon as people have enough to cover losses and purchase needs they quickly stop. With no equipment drops and no chance of a faction spawn all the things that could make ratting even vaguely intersting are absent. I ratted in drone regions once for about an hour then parked my BS and cloned to empire to run some missions for isk.
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Peoke
Caldari
Unknown Shoe Corp.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.22 13:01:00 -
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well i guess being lolz as smash head i should quit eve. but wait all those alliance weve killed, sent to empire read thier whines in eve o makes up for it.
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2007.11.22 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Peoke
well i guess being lolz as smash head i should quit eve. but wait all those alliance weve killed, sent to empire read thier whines in eve o makes up for it.
Funny thing is that frege is now living in XZH which is probally a 100% boost to their income.
But you did a great job kickin frege out of the drone region space. I mean you and your friends had a nice train going to kick out an alliance known for its incompetence, not to mention that you needed at least another two alliances and that the turncoats and asset addicated didnt make it to hard for your lil alliance.
In the end drone regions are probally richer then geminate...
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entropykaos
Species 5618
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Posted - 2007.11.22 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
Funny thing is that frege is now living in XZH which is probally a 100% boost to their income.
They were given that system and it was not given to them for nothing.
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