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Tres Farmer	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:10:00 - [1] Download isn't visually starting.. any point, where I can see if it's downloading? Source: new graphics engine now on singularity!
Sidephex The Black Rabbits Academy	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:12:00 - [2] /me wants to know too ___________
Superbus Maximus Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:13:00 - [3] Yeah Im confused as well. I don't think its downloading is this some sort of cruel holiday joke on Americans?
5n4keyes Sacred Templars DeStInY.	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:14:00 - [4] Engine.. Not the graphics i think

CCP Redundancy	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:15:00 - [5] There's no new graphics content yet. I personally think the title of the news post is a bit confusing, but it does clarify it a bit in the body.

Kerdrak 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:15:00 - [6] This engine will use the graphic card finally? (I'm talking about the classic client, not the super cool DX9) ________________________________________
ddemec The xDEATHx Squadron	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:15:00 - [7] "... this version is an updated DX8 version and does not include any DX9 content." May be this words is the key ? :D ________________________________________ b r e a k t h e b e a t z
Tres Farmer	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:16:00 - [8] Originally by: 5n4keyes Engine.. Not the graphics i think Ok, I mean.. the rusty look of this viator is now replaced by some silly reflective look.. like it was polished somehow.?! And running two clients does give me some funny ui-bugs (buttons disappear, shipps diasppear after jumping).. but I'll wait what others have to say about that
ddemec The xDEATHx Squadron	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:21:00 - [9] client crushes when i do alt-tab :(( ________________________________________ b r e a k t h e b e a t z
Fanjita	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:34:00 - [10] Ive not noticed any fps improvements from the new client

RigelKentaurus Flying Tartiflette Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:38:00 - [11] Edited by: RigelKentaurus on 22/11/2007 16:40:54 Originally by: ddemec client crushes when i do alt-tab :(( The same tends to happen here, especially when you do alt-tab while being in autopilot, and try to maximize the window again after your ship jumped through a few gates. Edit: actually it seems to be more a random error, I even got a Visual C++ Runtime error message once. _________ Someday, EVE might look like this.
ElrondMD The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:43:00 - [12] Try setting to window mode, i crashed to desktop when i did. New client is far more CPU and RAM intensive on my machine also.
RigelKentaurus Flying Tartiflette Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:49:00 - [13] Originally by: ElrondMD Try setting to window mode, i crashed to desktop when i did. I tried, it worked fine until I tried to minimize the window and then maximize it again, took a screenshot this time. _________ Someday, EVE might look like this.
Kina Putten Amarr Noble House	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:49:00 - [14] I can't see any "new" look on anything, ppl in local say their ships are looking better so I'm really confused here. And cpu load is same as on TQ. Doesn't look like the gfx card is doing much yet. And lots of weird gfx bugs, icons not loading and lag is worse than before this last patch
Jocca Quinn Matari BackBone	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:55:00 - [15] Originally by: CCP Redundancy There's no new graphics content yet. I personally think the title of the news post is a bit confusing, but it does clarify it a bit in the body. Its not just the title of the new post that is confusing. having sat a TQ and SISI client on the same PC I cannot see any difference in CPU / Mem use nor any change in fps. So does the new engine actually use the graphics card more if it uses the old content? JQ none of us are free as long as one of us is chained none of us are free

CCP Casqade	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:56:00 - [16] Please make sure you bug report all the issues you encounter.


CCP Redundancy	Posted - 2007.11.22 16:59:00 - [17] Originally by: Jocca Quinn So does the new engine actually use the graphics card more if it uses the old content? Some stuff was given an overhaul, but in general the engine running the old content and code is very similar to what was there before, to maintain content compatibility. There are new code paths for new content.

turnschuh Viper Squad	Posted - 2007.11.22 17:00:00 - [18] EWWW what did you do to the FOV it looks very confusing now, less fisheye though. Also the planets/stations seam to be WAY bigger then before.
Mikal Drey Angels and Demons	Posted - 2007.11.22 17:05:00 - [19] hey hey Its certainly lagging like crazy and i managed to moonwalk (went backwards) the ship into a gate. Gate looked alot crisper and seemed to have a very nice lighting effect on it. no noticable FPS increases or performance increases but my guess was the lag and the constant trafic advisories wasnt doing much for the server and had no real bearing on actual performance. Could a nice DEV please clear all my science jobs as everytime i try i hang the client .. . . the pos they were attached to isnt there anymore :) Many thanks Mikal Drey
Fanjita	Posted - 2007.11.22 17:11:00 - [20] Nice splash screen and eve voice actually works on this client never has before on my pc and doesnt on current tranq build

Fanjita	Posted - 2007.11.22 17:13:00 - [21] Originally by: Fanjita Nice splash screen and eve voice actually works on this client never has before on my pc and doesnt on current tranq build overall gamma setting is a lot darker than b4 also had to change gamma settings in me drivers to actually make out any details on ships.
Wolverine PL Gallente xtort Rare Faction	Posted - 2007.11.22 17:21:00 - [22] Edited by: Wolverine PL on 22/11/2007 17:22:19 Edited by: Wolverine PL on 22/11/2007 17:21:22 just gr8 I hope trinity wont be like this when its hits TQ becouse I CANT get into game with any of my alts or main. Im stuck on entering game and if you type wrong loging or pass you will be stuck on AUTHENTICATING...:(
Fanjita	Posted - 2007.11.22 17:26:00 - [23] Originally by: Wolverine PL Edited by: Wolverine PL on 22/11/2007 17:22:19 Edited by: Wolverine PL on 22/11/2007 17:21:22 just gr8 I hope trinity wont be like this when its hits TQ becouse I CANT get into game with any of my alts or main. Im stuck on entering game and if you type wrong loging or pass you will be stuck on AUTHENTICATING...:( me too now managed to log in fine twice earlier cant any more :(
Dammar Amarr Ephorate	Posted - 2007.11.22 17:32:00 - [24] Originally by: Wolverine PL Edited by: Wolverine PL on 22/11/2007 17:22:19 Edited by: Wolverine PL on 22/11/2007 17:21:22 just gr8 I hope trinity wont be like this when its hits TQ becouse I CANT get into game with any of my alts or main. Im stuck on entering game and if you type wrong loging or pass you will be stuck on AUTHENTICATING...:( Relax. 400+ people on the test server is very bad in terms of 'lag'. It just can't handle it. The new 'content on demand' is weird tho I admit. I can forsee laggy fleet battles, where previously you would see whether your modules were active or not... Now you just won't see any modules at all. (tho...if you hover over them, it still says what they are...as I said, odd. Also, Alt + tabbing = bad.
Krypt Angel Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.11.22 17:32:00 - [25] I'm guessing that its safe to assume that the content compatibility detection isn't working as intended? I say this because I know my card doesn't support shader 3 (and I was under the impression that this was a deal breaker for whether the new content works or not) but my sisi client tells me that my computer should support the new art content if it were available
nomis ekoobmah Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2007.11.22 17:36:00 - [26] Originally by: Krypt Angel I'm guessing that its safe to assume that the content compatibility detection isn't working as intended? I say this because I know my card doesn't support shader 3 (and I was under the impression that this was a deal breaker for whether the new content works or not) but my sisi client tells me that my computer should support the new art content if it were available The new engine doesn't care if your card supports SM3 or not because, as far as I am aware, it is used for the classic and enhanced graphics.
PhamNuwen Caldari Bungee Jumper	Posted - 2007.11.22 17:39:00 - [27] I assumee, it is compiled, delivered and never tested? First impressions: - server slow - client not faster; more CPU - not a stable build Hardware: P4 3.4Mhz; Hyperthreading; 2GByte RAM Radeon X1900 Tests: Splashscreen 60% CPU in FullScreen (Hyperthreading; 2 virtual CPUs) Splashscreen 60% CPU in Windowed CPU-Load 65%-70% during entering Game (Character Selection) -> 10mins CPU-Load 65%-70% during entering Game (Entering Station) -> 5mins CPU-Load 70%-80% during dockout Changing Windowed to Fullscreen crashes EVE -> destroying all settings.... ___ ...no bugreports without a working error tracking system... Have fun or ignore it. ---
Kerdrak 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.22 17:51:00 - [28] Originally by: CCP Redundancy Originally by: Jocca Quinn So does the new engine actually use the graphics card more if it uses the old content? Some stuff was given an overhaul, but in general the engine running the old content and code is very similar to what was there before, to maintain content compatibility. There are new code paths for new content. So, new engine does not offer anything new or improvements unless you buy a new graphic card with DX9 shaders 3.0... How much nVidia/ATI paid you? ________________________________________

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2007.11.22 17:56:00 - [29] Originally by: Krypt Angel I'm guessing that its safe to assume that the content compatibility detection isn't working as intended? I say this because I know my card doesn't support shader 3 (and I was under the impression that this was a deal breaker for whether the new content works or not) but my sisi client tells me that my computer should support the new art content if it were available What card do you have? Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Abye Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.11.22 18:04:00 - [30] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Krypt Angel I'm guessing that its safe to assume that the content compatibility detection isn't working as intended? I say this because I know my card doesn't support shader 3 (and I was under the impression that this was a deal breaker for whether the new content works or not) but my sisi client tells me that my computer should support the new art content if it were available What card do you have? Same for me, i have a Radeon 9800Pro which isn't SM3 ___ CCP Garthagk: "And that is why GMs aren't DEVs"

Seth Allasatre Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.22 18:06:00 - [31] I also waited on the "entering game as.." screen for a long time but just let it go - after about 10 minutes, I was finally in space. Now I can login without much difficulty. However, as noted by others, alt-tabbing or alt-enter to switch from fullscreen to windowed mode will crash the client. In fact, just changing some gfx settings in the main menu can crash it. There also doesn't seem to be a way to enable anti-aliasing. Space is pretty ugly with all those jaggies.
Aronis Contar Caldari Independent Manufacturers	Posted - 2007.11.22 18:15:00 - [32] So much negative stuff, I thought I'd post something positive: - Client quite a bit faster than before. - Alt+Tab and Alt+Enter works just fine. - Yeah, it's laggy, who would've thunk after that news announcement... I'm running two release clients and a test client right now, and it works just fine. There are a few little things wrong in the test client (background stars pop in and out rather than pulse slowly, and engine exhaust is missing), but overall it runs great. Ciao, Aronis!
Kerdrak 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.22 18:18:00 - [33] Originally by: Abye Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Krypt Angel I'm guessing that its safe to assume that the content compatibility detection isn't working as intended? I say this because I know my card doesn't support shader 3 (and I was under the impression that this was a deal breaker for whether the new content works or not) but my sisi client tells me that my computer should support the new art content if it were available What card do you have? Same for me, i have a Radeon 9800Pro which isn't SM3 +2, I have a Radeon X800 XT PE ________________________________________
Kalithor Red Horizon Inc Red Horizon	Posted - 2007.11.22 18:18:00 - [34] Well when I originally installed trinity and logged onto sisi, I was able to get in and everything went fine, although VERY VERY slow. Then I used alt-tab to get back to windows and noticed the eve client crashed. I did this about 3 more times and it crashed each time. I now can't get in at all and am sitting at the "entering game as" screen which other people here seem to be as well.
Royaldo Gallente DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.22 18:21:00 - [35] its running so smooth here i feel like stroking myself
dor amwar Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.22 18:36:00 - [36] might not be so laggy if people could get moved to the test area after the new mirror. all that loading of systems on the server can't be good.
Losses01	Posted - 2007.11.22 18:36:00 - [37] "Your computer supports new art content. Click here to start downloading it in the background. (Do not show again)" I tried clicking for it to download in background but it didn't do anything. I guess the content isn't there yet?
Tek'a Rain Gallente Isis Technologies	Posted - 2007.11.22 18:38:00 - [38] Originally by: Losses01 "Your computer supports new art content. Click here to start downloading it in the background. (Do not show again)" I tried clicking for it to download in background but it didn't do anything. I guess the content isn't there yet? read thread.
Reatu Krentor Minmatar Void Spiders Fate Weavers	Posted - 2007.11.22 18:43:00 - [39] Originally by: Kerdrak Originally by: Abye Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Krypt Angel I'm guessing that its safe to assume that the content compatibility detection isn't working as intended? I say this because I know my card doesn't support shader 3 (and I was under the impression that this was a deal breaker for whether the new content works or not) but my sisi client tells me that my computer should support the new art content if it were available What card do you have? Same for me, i have a Radeon 9800Pro which isn't SM3 +2, I have a Radeon X800 XT PE Me 4, Radeon 9600XT. Not SM3 support but detects it with. -- stuff --
Navick	Posted - 2007.11.22 19:00:00 - [40] I hate to jump on the "This Sucks" bandwagon, but... the condition of the test server is really pathetic right now, lol. I've played Alphas and Stress Tests that were more playable than SiSi is right now. I sat in the Move Me channel for close to an hour, waiting motionless in space, only to get kicked from the channel at random and was unable to rejoin due to server lag/lockup. I think I'll be sticking to TQ for a day or two until the "OMG NEW ENGINE MUST SEE!" craze has died down.

Arktiger Gallente The Flying Tigers STELLAR LEGION	Posted - 2007.11.22 19:11:00 - [41] Everything seems to be running fine for me.
Krypt Angel Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.11.22 19:11:00 - [42] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Krypt Angel I'm guessing that its safe to assume that the content compatibility detection isn't working as intended? I say this because I know my card doesn't support shader 3 (and I was under the impression that this was a deal breaker for whether the new content works or not) but my sisi client tells me that my computer should support the new art content if it were available What card do you have? I have a Radeon 9550 which is pretty antiquated I'm basing my non support knowledge on the fact that its old and I ran that shader 3 detection utility in one of the recent dev blogs and it said it didn't
Azrael Maxim Flexible Demeanour	Posted - 2007.11.22 19:45:00 - [43] has anybody lost the controls for anti aliasing under advanced graphic options as well ?
SirMolly	Posted - 2007.11.22 19:51:00 - [44] Edited by: SirMolly on 22/11/2007 19:51:28 For me the new engine runs just like the old one. I still get FPS drop if I for example expand my drone window (differen drone groups). It doesnt feel smooth at all. ------------------------------------------------
Sidephex The Black Rabbits Academy	Posted - 2007.11.22 19:56:00 - [45] Originally by: Azrael Maxim has anybody lost the controls for anti aliasing under advanced graphic options as well ? yes... eve is so ugly without AA ___________
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.11.22 20:00:00 - [46] Originally by: Azrael Maxim has anybody lost the controls for anti aliasing under advanced graphic options as well ? Set it in the drivers. Works better anyway. ...
Damned Force	Posted - 2007.11.22 20:24:00 - [47] The SiSi version is crap. Is laggy, but very. 9 from 10 logins im stucking by loading character. If i run 2 clients on full screen and i want to switch between they freeze and need to kill process. Thats under Vista. IS CRAP, i hope u dont deploy this. better rework and take some time.
ElfeGER Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.22 20:36:00 - [48] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Krypt Angel I'm guessing that its safe to assume that the content compatibility detection isn't working as intended? I say this because I know my card doesn't support shader 3 (and I was under the impression that this was a deal breaker for whether the new content works or not) but my sisi client tells me that my computer should support the new art content if it were available What card do you have? could you tell how the detection is working ingame as compared to the test tool available from the blog? wine has the tool reporting the correct result while the game fails to detect the gf 6600 as sm3 capable ----------- - reduce light, medium and heavy drone rof (default 2 sec) - server side event filtering for turret and effects - module grouping for less server calls - fix grid loading isses
Crae Matreki Blackstar Enterprises	Posted - 2007.11.22 20:44:00 - [49] Some definite rewording needed on that news bulletin. I couldn't log in fast enough, but was disappointed to be faced with the exact same view as before (flickery station textures included). I actually pondered buying vista for a moment!!
Neelan	Posted - 2007.11.22 20:51:00 - [50] Originally by: Razin Originally by: Azrael Maxim has anybody lost the controls for anti aliasing under advanced graphic options as well ? Set it in the drivers. Works better anyway. how do you do that?

Bein Glorious GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.22 22:05:00 - [51] I have a Sapphire RADEON x800XL 512MB video card and it's telling me that it's shader model 3.0 compatible (it isn't really).
IlluminatedOne Amarr Tycho Brahe Fan Club	Posted - 2007.11.22 22:31:00 - [52] May it be the case that ATI drivers use some sort of SM3 emulation?
Evolyze Caldari Original Pirating Material	Posted - 2007.11.22 22:41:00 - [53] Super sekrit graphic updates !!!1111 seriously though, i can't wait and my graphics card supports it aswell :) (ati 1950pro x something) Evol
Abn Matar Minmatar Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.22 22:43:00 - [54] Im stuck in game, tried to exit station in FD- and now i cant log back in, i get to the charachter selection bar and it loads fully, im in a vaga, using a 7800gtx, have had real issues in eve (while it worked) except for ships hanger not updating. Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Ric Adburr Gallente Setanta Strategic Consultants	Posted - 2007.11.22 23:50:00 - [55] I am completely unable to connect to Singularity. I choose the server, but then it tells me that I have the wrong build and some business about not being able to locate patch info. It wants me to go to the support page, and when I open that, Internet Explorer crashes. Why won't it download the patch automatically? I'd really appreciate help. Thanks. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Timmeh ([email protected])
Kappas. Galaxy Punks Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.11.22 23:55:00 - [56] Originally by: Damned Force Vista Ahhh I can see your problem... Lag on login is more likely due to the number of people on the test server rather than the client IMO, was on it earlier with 400 people, usually around 100. __________________ Recruitment
Zeonos Amarr Fairtrade Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.23 00:35:00 - [57] that title is indeed confusing, could you change it maybe?... Look I Hijacked a sig!! -Kaemonn <3 Kaemonn -Zeonos A sunset with Kaemonn... how nice... -Wachtmeister In Eve-Online Forum Hijack Signature! -Ivan K This space is reserved for moderator hijacking, Need more colors! Red & Yellow & Pink & Green, Orange & Purple & ME! - Deckard My yellow pwns Deckard's fruity rainbow thingie anyday. BRING IT BABY! -Hango Black and pink 4tw however gold pwns -Eldo
Fabienne Jax Minmatar Deja Skye	Posted - 2007.11.23 00:46:00 - [58] Originally by: Aronis Contar So much negative stuff, I thought I'd post something positive: - Client quite a bit faster than before. - Alt+Tab and Alt+Enter works just fine. - Yeah, it's laggy, who would've thunk after that news announcement... I'm running two release clients and a test client right now, and it works just fine. There are a few little things wrong in the test client (background stars pop in and out rather than pulse slowly, and engine exhaust is missing), but overall it runs great. Ciao, Aronis! Indeed! So many negatives. Quite on the other hand, there's nothing special at all about my laptop (dual-core 1.8ghz, x1400 Mobility), and while running dual test clients I experience peak in-space fps of 80. That's over 200% increase in performance on my end AFTER a jump from 16 - 24bit color depth. In other words: Tranquility client: 16bit depth, 1024 x 768 x two clients, FPS = 10-30 Singularity client: 24bit depth, 1024 x 768 x two clients, FPS = 60-80 Now, there are a few crashes I'm experiencing that I can't seem to reproduce w/ any certainty. Otherwise, the new client is mega sexy. Does the current Sisi client include the optimizations for multi-core systems? I read it will be supported in the winter release.
Vrenth Gallente 23rd Armor Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.23 01:47:00 - [59] Originally by: Navick I hate to jump on the "This Sucks" bandwagon, but... the condition of the test server is really pathetic right now, lol. I've played Alphas and Stress Tests that were more playable than SiSi is right now. I sat in the Move Me channel for close to an hour, waiting motionless in space, only to get kicked from the channel at random and was unable to rejoin due to server lag/lockup. I think I'll be sticking to TQ for a day or two until the "OMG NEW ENGINE MUST SEE!" craze has died down.
Max Grief Minmatar Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.23 02:28:00 - [60] Any love for EVE: Linux Users??? Current Patch is failing to install.

Chade Malloy Anarchy Unleashed	Posted - 2007.11.23 03:07:00 - [61] hm, login worked fine, but first thing i found is that the station seems to be rotating around my ship (i always use orbit station) and the ship stands still...filing report & continuing testing now Originally by: Oveur Jesus Christ. The Freighter ate the Stargate god and the Dreadnought didn't!
Cedric Diggory Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps	Posted - 2007.11.23 03:09:00 - [62] I'm afraid to say that so far, the performance of the new engine does not inspire. Machine: Athlon XP 2500 1536Mb PC2700 DDR (Single channel) ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 2x 7200RPM 8Mb HDD (C: Windows + Pagefile, D: Games, both non fragmented) Windows XP SP2 Currently on Tranquillity I can expect framerates in station between 50-80, and in space between 40-80 which means running two clients at around 30-40 fps (multiple monitors). On Singularity, a single client is failing to break 40 fps in the station, and whilst I understand there are currently no art updates available I am unable to see any real difference between the "quality" of the rendering between the two, but as this clearly shows there is a visible difference between the performance of the two engines... and it doesn't seem to favour Trinity! This said, I'll reserve judgement until the new art content is made available. What does have me slightly worried is the mention of "eve classic" though. Sounds to me like you intend to release your first paid for expansion or surely it would simply continue to be Eve as it has always been?
Chade Malloy Anarchy Unleashed	Posted - 2007.11.23 03:13:00 - [63] Edited by: Chade Malloy on 23/11/2007 03:16:40 Originally by: Cedric Diggory This said, I'll reserve judgement until the new art content is made available. What does have me slightly worried is the mention of "eve classic" though. Sounds to me like you intend to release your first paid for expansion or surely it would simply continue to be Eve as it has always been? Nah, will be for free, like always and hopefully ever Client seems to perform quite good so far, windowed mode on one screen, i got around 140fps with the cam real close to a gate / station with some npcs acround. I¦ll try if out in a few FFA fights ofc since this is really important. Machine: Intel core2 6600 2gig 533 Kingston RAM MSI 7950GT Graphics card OS: WinXP SP2 Originally by: Oveur Jesus Christ. The Freighter ate the Stargate god and the Dreadnought didn't!
Dammar Amarr Ephorate	Posted - 2007.11.23 03:18:00 - [64] ITT: Epic levels of stupid.
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.11.23 03:18:00 - [65] Originally by: Neelan Originally by: Razin Originally by: Azrael Maxim has anybody lost the controls for anti aliasing under advanced graphic options as well ? Set it in the drivers. Works better anyway. how do you do that? Right-click on your desktop and select the video card control panel. Select the 3D settings area and set Antialiasing to the desired level (I find that 4x looks good enough at 1920x1200). Works identical for ATI and NVIDIA (I have both). Setting AA in-game always gave me worse frame-rates, don't know why. ...
Yorick Downe Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.11.23 03:46:00 - [66] Can't even undock. Could be the server with 200+ people on right now, could be something graphicky. Bug report filed. Have others seen this? To wit: >> Undocking in ----, from ---- station. I get all the way to "Entering Space - Ship Ready" and the end of the bar, and then see "Abort Undock" in the window and stay in station. I can reproduce this any number of times, so I don't believe it has something to do with the node loading. Might be the new engine? Vista64 Ultimate, 2GB RAM, AMD64 3700+, Nvidia 7800GT w/ latest Vista64 WHQL drivers v163.75, 22" wide-screen at 1680x1050. >>
Viper G	Posted - 2007.11.23 04:30:00 - [67] Well my character is currently disabled on sisi and I have to wait for the next mirror :(. Most likely I will have to wait until trinity is patched to see anything.
Kuar Z'thain Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.23 04:32:00 - [68] Edited by: Kuar Z''thain on 23/11/2007 04:34:48 I <3 you CCP. I have no idea what you did but have never had this good of performance. P4 2.8 with 1GB Ram Nvidia 6800 GS 24-bit 1280x1024 I used to to have 90%+ CPU usage running eve and 24 fps if I was lucky. With whats running on Sisi now i run eve at 60% CPU and over 40 fps.
Ventallia Renvess	Posted - 2007.11.23 04:37:00 - [69] Edited by: Ventallia Renvess on 23/11/2007 04:37:43 ----------- Rawr, I'm a manatee
Copine Callmeknau Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.23 04:37:00 - [70] Awesome, I'm getting between 3-7 average fps in space. In an empty system With not even rats near me That's running a 7600 GS btw with 512MB ram, my CPU and RAM is a bit worse though, 3.03ghz P4HT, 1GB DDR333 Originally by: CCP Redundancy Originally by: Jocca Quinn So does the new engine actually use the graphics card more if it uses the old content? Some stuff was given an overhaul, but in general the engine running the old content and code is very similar to what was there before, to maintain content compatibility. There are new code paths for new content. Wait, you mean the new engine runs everything through the CPU before, unless you have the new content which runs through the graphics card? Kinda screws over the say 4-5 year old PC running a 9600 pro or something. They'll still get choppy fps cause it's forcing a 5 year old graphics engine through the CPU, when the gfx card will be able to handle the game in classic mode very easily. Think it's a bit srewy that the classic EVE runs like a dog on my comp, but the SM3 content will run fine with the same graphics card. Hope you guys take the time to code the engine to run through the gfx card, whether you're using the new contect or not ----- Originally by: Patch86 Depressing as hell though. By the end, you feel like someone's eaten your kitten.

Zeonos Amarr Fairtrade Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.23 05:00:00 - [71] specs: Striker-Extreme motherboard e6600 due 2 core. 2gb Cosiar 800MHz ram. Geforce 8800GTS "320mb, overclocked from factory, evga". eve fps. (hugging a gate, total zoomed in). Test Server avg, fps: 140 ( in a drake ) cpu use. 40/20%, running webbrowser with movie in the bg "eve tv.." live. avg, fps: 110 ( in a shuttle ) cpu use. 40/20%. Look I Hijacked a sig!! -Kaemonn <3 Kaemonn -Zeonos A sunset with Kaemonn... how nice... -Wachtmeister In Eve-Online Forum Hijack Signature! -Ivan K This space is reserved for moderator hijacking, Need more colors! Red & Yellow & Pink & Green, Orange & Purple & ME! - Deckard My yellow pwns Deckard's fruity rainbow thingie anyday. BRING IT BABY! -Hango Black and pink 4tw however gold pwns -Eldo
Damned Force	Posted - 2007.11.23 06:27:00 - [72] Edited by: Damned Force on 23/11/2007 06:29:56 Originally by: Kappas. Originally by: Damned Force Vista Ahhh I can see your problem... Lag on login is more likely due to the number of people on the test server rather than the client IMO, was on it earlier with 400 people, usually around 100. Tnx, but more than 60 min by the loading character is already not lag :( And if i click on th window that i want to close, Vista tell me the program stopped working and try to find the bug. And if i run both clients, SiSi and TQ, the TQ one need around 70MB memory as default, logged in, sitting in a station. By same logging my SiSi client needs 165MB. I dont see how that would have performance increase. Good that i have 2GB
Dapanman1 Amarr Beets and Gravy Syndicate Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.11.23 06:28:00 - [73] Originally by: Oam Mkoll I can connect just fine. After selecting my char, I wait for the "entering game as.." bar to fill up. Then comes.. nothing. The game hangs at a pitch-black screen. No error msgs whatsoever, it happens every time. Sisi used to work fine for me until that recent patch. You in an Amarr Shuttle? Beets, you're among friends.
Valeo Galaem New Eden Advanced Reconnaissance Unit	Posted - 2007.11.23 07:34:00 - [74] For the "this card shouldn't be detected as Trinity 2 compatible" crowd... Radeon 7000! Yah, the detection is definitely broken! Thar be Pirates You are not authorised to hack into CONCORD's mainframe Your Wallet has been emptied! CONCORD Encryption Methods
Riho Northen Breeze	Posted - 2007.11.23 07:36:00 - [75] Originally by: Tres Farmer Download isn't visually starting.. any point, where I can see if it's downloading? Source: new graphics engine now on singularity! it wount download atm.. atleast last night.. was running log server and it showed that the link doesnt work yet :)
inza onoa Gallente GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.23 12:27:00 - [76] Indeed Evil levels of stupidity itt. New content comes later, the only thing we downloaded now is the client supporting dx80 cards. Not sure if it boosted my fps, my fps where always very changable from 90 till very high (260) at different scenes, and with this dx80 client its the same. Only new problem i encountered was the minimize-problem, solved it with setting it in window-mode instead of fullscreen. Am curious how the dx90 supporting client will be performing...
April Cove Amarr Free Space Tech Russian Coalition.	Posted - 2007.11.23 13:44:00 - [77] Even on my GF 5950 Ultra, which is pretty antique, i've got about 80-100% fps increase, both in station and in-space. Stop whinning, people, prior going here and writing a post or two about 'wtf ccp you write a new crappy client' better upgrade your drivers. Most (if not every) crash issue is about bad audio/video/motherboard drivers. Good job, CCP. Still waitin' for new graphics content


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