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foksieloy
Rockets ponies and rainbows
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Posted - 2011.09.06 12:17:00 -
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So, what better way to open this new forums than with the best ship in game.
I have assembled this ship, and plan to fly it real soon:
Quote:[Flycatcher, Solo] Ballistic Control System II
1MN Afterburner II Medium Shield Extender II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II
Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket 75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Lead Charge S Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket 75mm Gatling Rail II, Caldari Navy Lead Charge S Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Thorn Rage Rocket
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Taking bets on how it will do. Disclaimer: I do not actually play this game, I just forum warrior. |

Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
5
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Posted - 2011.09.06 12:49:00 -
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My bet, you will never get a fight against your intended targets, and when you do you will get ganked.
Also, first xD |

Dorian Tormak
M0N0LITH
0
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Posted - 2011.09.06 14:55:00 -
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Nice!
Looks like it'll get owned at the first camp it comes to though because of the low tank and lack of MWD/good AB speed. _____________________________
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OilSlick Rick
Quantum Cats Syndicate
7
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Posted - 2011.09.06 18:17:00 -
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You will be primaried outside of null sec just because you are in an easy insta pop expensive destroyer. |

yopparai
ASTARTES CORP
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Posted - 2011.09.06 21:52:00 -
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bubble ship with out a bubble launcher makes me sad
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Dorian Tormak
M0N0LITH
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Posted - 2011.09.06 22:51:00 -
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OilSlick Rick wrote:You will be primaried outside of null sec just because you are in an easy insta pop expensive destroyer.
yopparai wrote:bubble ship with out a bubble launcher makes me sad 
Lots of stoopid going on around here. _____________________________
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Loridia Jade
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.09.07 00:12:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:My bet, you will never get a fight against your intended targets, and when you do you will get ganked.
Also, first xD
Yup, This ^^ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Show with the Hand, Deliver with the Mouth, Steal with the Eyes; Tempt fate not, for therein lay a dark surprise. |

Ritshu Henderson
Brotherhood of Caldari
0
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Posted - 2011.09.07 01:51:00 -
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I'd pop you with my 300k isk frig. Then harvest your tears. fear the permajam. |

Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army B A N E
31
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Posted - 2011.09.07 07:57:00 -
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I have a very similar flycatcher fitted up. I've had it fitted for a few months. Every fight I get into with it I've had to bail, so I can't say its successful. But its a good alternative to the Hooky. |

Cordarouy Pants
Real Salmon
0
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Posted - 2011.09.07 13:21:00 -
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foksieloy wrote:Taking bets on how it will do.
I predict you will be shamed on killboards for not fitting a bubble launcher. |

foksieloy
Rockets ponies and rainbows
8
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Posted - 2011.09.07 13:27:00 -
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Cordarouy Pants wrote:I predict you will be shamed on killboards for not fitting a bubble launcher.
Why would I need it in lowsec?
Disclaimer: I do not actually play this game, I just forum warrior. |

Captain Sage
Hole Spectors
0
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Posted - 2011.09.07 13:33:00 -
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Where zee bubble on zee bubble ship ehh? Fear my pets!! |

Cordarouy Pants
Real Salmon
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Posted - 2011.09.07 16:40:00 -
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foksieloy wrote:Cordarouy Pants wrote:I predict you will be shamed on killboards for not fitting a bubble launcher. Why would I need it in lowsec?
Why would I assume you would be flying an interdictor in low sec? (Why would you, actually?) |

foksieloy
Rockets ponies and rainbows
8
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Posted - 2011.09.07 17:26:00 -
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Cordarouy Pants wrote:Why would you, actually?
Got ISK, am bored, am drunk... many reasons to do so. :)
Disclaimer: I do not actually play this game, I just forum warrior. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.07 21:17:00 -
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A Hurricane will pop you. |

whaynethepain
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
4
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Posted - 2011.09.07 21:48:00 -
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Looks interesting, may make a good Faction Warfare pvp ship, the sabre looks interesting too, I liked the dual propulsion flycatcher, but it burst into flames whenever anyone looked at it harshly |

KFenn
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.09.07 22:07:00 -
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Andski wrote:A Hurricane will pop you. No ****. There's alot of ships that would pop him.
In all reality in lowsec this is a cheap version of a dual-web Hookbill with a marginally larger tank (which is somewhat negated by the bigger sig radius), a little slower and more DPS. General rule of thumb is if a dual-web Hookbill can kill it, the flycather can probably also kill it. I've flown it, and I found it fun, but never really got any solo kills with it, so I can't comment on that. Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade |

Cordo Draken
ABOS Industrial Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2011.09.08 01:08:00 -
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I'm going to go with... You will die most humorously. Perhaps like this fellow: Flycrusher
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KFenn
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.09.08 14:22:00 -
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Cordo Draken wrote:I'm going to go with... You will die most humorously. Perhaps like this fellow: Flycrusher
That's a terrible fit, so it's not surprising he died tbh. That KM doesn't prove the Flycatcher is bad, just that the pilot is terrible. Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade |

Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
4
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Posted - 2011.09.08 17:35:00 -
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KFenn wrote:Cordo Draken wrote:I'm going to go with... You will die most humorously. Perhaps like this fellow: Flycrusher That's a terrible fit, so it's not surprising he died tbh. That KM doesn't prove the Flycatcher is bad, just that the pilot is terrible.
T2 dessies can work, but a flycatcher? No. Saber. Always Saber. |

Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army B A N E
31
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Posted - 2011.09.08 17:46:00 -
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KFenn wrote:Andski wrote:A Hurricane will pop you. No ****. There's alot of ships that would pop him. In all reality in lowsec this is a cheap version of a dual-web Hookbill with a marginally larger tank (which is somewhat negated by the bigger sig radius), a little slower and more DPS. General rule of thumb is if a dual-web Hookbill can kill it, the flycather can probably also kill it. I've flown it, and I found it fun, but never really got any solo kills with it, so I can't comment on that.
Exactly.
I love how ppl who know nothing about Eve except 0.0 Blob Warfare comment on other parts of the game.
The flycatcher is great against several frigates.
Saying a Cane can kill it is incredibly useless. Thats like saying "Don't fly a Rupture! A Proteus could kill that!" |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2011.09.09 04:38:00 -
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Jude Lloyd wrote:KFenn wrote:Andski wrote:A Hurricane will pop you. No ****. There's alot of ships that would pop him. In all reality in lowsec this is a cheap version of a dual-web Hookbill with a marginally larger tank (which is somewhat negated by the bigger sig radius), a little slower and more DPS. General rule of thumb is if a dual-web Hookbill can kill it, the flycather can probably also kill it. I've flown it, and I found it fun, but never really got any solo kills with it, so I can't comment on that. Exactly. I love how ppl who know nothing about Eve except 0.0 Blob Warfare comment on other parts of the game. The flycatcher is great against several frigates. Saying a Cane can kill it is incredibly useless. Thats like saying "Don't fly a Rupture! A Proteus could kill that!"
i love how people fly solo dictors in lowsec just to die horribly when they realize that, no, you can't kill anything anywhere with your horribly fit dictor |

Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army B A N E
31
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Posted - 2011.09.09 08:37:00 -
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You're in Goons, your opinion isn't valid. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.09 15:00:00 -
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Jude Lloyd wrote:You're in Goons, your opinion isn't valid.
and you're a ******* moron lolllll |

Joshke
Epsilon Inc STORM.
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Posted - 2011.09.09 15:38:00 -
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The idea is good, but why the Flycatcher? It's tank is too weak, rockets have too small range and standard launchers (if you fit them) are weak against speed tank.
And yes, dictors are not for solo in low sec. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2011.09.09 17:13:00 -
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Joshke wrote:The idea is good, but why the Flycatcher? It's tank is too weak, rockets have too small range and standard launchers (if you fit them) are weak against speed tank.
And yes, dictors are not for solo in low sec.
shut up we clearly know nothing about eve outside of 0.0 blob warfare according to jude lloyd of the honourable B A N E alliance |

Tsubutai
The Tuskers
2
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Posted - 2011.09.09 17:31:00 -
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Trouble with flying a no-bubble all-gank dictor in lowsec is that while you will generally murder any frigate that comes your way, you'll die horribly to larger things and most half-decent or better frigate pilots will steer clear of you. Consequently, you'll probably struggle to get winnable fights. |

Dorian Tormak
M0N0LITH
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Posted - 2011.09.09 18:50:00 -
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Jude Lloyd wrote:[quote=KFenn]Exactly.
I love how ppl who know nothing about Eve except 0.0 Blob Warfare comment on other parts of the game.
The flycatcher is great against several frigates.
Saying a Cane can kill it is incredibly useless. Thats like saying "Don't fly a Rupture! A Proteus could kill that!"
This. The Flycatcher goes as fast as most assault ships if you're using a deadspace afterburner; it can take on basicly the same things a Hookbill can and while it may die to bigger ships more easily due to the bigger signature radius, it is still capable of a speed tank under medium + guns. It's incredible aesthetically and it's something different.
The title of the thread is FLYCATCHER SOLO, not MY INTERDICTOR FIT FOR 0.0 BUBBLING, and the afterburner should give you roosters a clue as to where he uses it.
If you STILL don't like the Flycatcher, go watch Who You Gonna Call 2.
BUT, his opinion isn't invalid just for being in Goons; that was just an ignorant thing to say, Jude :) _____________________________
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Korg Tronix
Heretic Army B A N E
0
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Posted - 2011.09.09 21:17:00 -
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Andski wrote:A Hurricane will pop you.
What, like, no way!! |

Korg Tronix
Heretic Army B A N E
0
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Posted - 2011.09.09 21:20:00 -
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Joshke wrote:The idea is good, but why the Flycatcher? It's tank is too weak, rockets have too small range and standard launchers (if you fit them) are weak against speed tank.
And yes, dictors are not for solo in low sec.
Rockets have great range for a short range frigate weapon system and if you can dictate range/have proper tackle fitted you have some of the most consistent dps.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2011.09.10 04:17:00 -
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Korg Tronix wrote:Andski wrote:A Hurricane will pop you. What, like, no way!!
you have lots of alts don't you ;p |

Scorpionidae
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Posted - 2011.09.10 12:48:00 -
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First of all to the ppl say that this is a bad ship and won't work are dumb and have not watch any films made by Zach Donnel a very well known solo pvp!
Your going to need a Dead space AB for better speed or try and fit a MWD!!
Scorpionidae 
These new forums... yeah they sucks! |

foksieloy
Rockets ponies and rainbows
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Posted - 2011.09.11 08:45:00 -
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Scorpionidae wrote:FYour going to need a Dead space AB for better speed
I will definitely consider this. Disclaimer: I do not actually play this game, I just forum warrior. |

Roktai
ROFLcopters Take Flight
0
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Posted - 2011.09.28 16:29:00 -
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I think the problem at hand is that you are trying to make something do something it wasn't designed for. Will it kill frigates? Probably. Will a frigate pick a fight with it? Probably not. Will the first cheaply fit cane that sees it pick a fight? Yes.
It is kinda like fitting small ACs on a cane and saying I have an uber destroyer... sure it would work, but there are more effective ways to fit it. |

KFenn
Percussive Diplomacy
5
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Posted - 2011.09.28 23:13:00 -
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Roktai wrote:I think the problem at hand is that you are trying to make something do something it wasn't designed for. Will it kill frigates? Probably. Will a frigate pick a fight with it? Probably not. Will the first cheaply fit cane that sees it pick a fight? Yes.
It is kinda like fitting small ACs on a cane and saying I have an uber destroyer... sure it would work, but there are more effective ways to fit it.
Destroyer Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Rocket and Light Missile velocity per level 3% bonus to Light Missile effectiveness against faster moving targets per level
Interdictors Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Rocket and Light Missile kinetic damage per level 10% bonus to Interdiction Sphere Launcher rate of fire per level
Please tell me how this is not designed for killing frigates. Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade SLAPD Director |

Roktai
ROFLcopters Take Flight
0
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Posted - 2011.09.28 23:34:00 -
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@KFenn I am not disagreeing on capability. I am however stating that you can attain similar results with less money/sp involved by picking a ship which is designed PURELY for combat. |

Guillame Herschel
NME1
1
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Posted - 2011.09.29 23:26:00 -
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Roktai wrote:@KFenn I am not disagreeing on capability. I am however stating that you can attain similar results with less money/sp involved by picking a ship which is designed PURELY for combat.
Like a Hawk. Which does similar DPS, smaller sig, better tank, more speed, less money.
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Korg Leaf
East Eve Trading Co Laika.
0
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Posted - 2011.09.29 23:52:00 -
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Guillame Herschel wrote:Roktai wrote:@KFenn I am not disagreeing on capability. I am however stating that you can attain similar results with less money/sp involved by picking a ship which is designed PURELY for combat. Like a Hawk. Which does similar DPS, smaller sig, better tank, more speed, less money.
This actually has roughly the same speed as a Hawk and alot more dps ill give you tank and sig though, not that the frigates that engage this will last that long |

Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
4
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Posted - 2011.09.30 06:01:00 -
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TBH, I don't fight much in lowsec, so I almost always fit a bubbler on my dictors. I have used a very similar version of the flycatcher to good success, but its has some serious weaknesses.
It can take on and kill most frigate/dessie hulls, although its not a wtf pwn mobile. The ships I have caught and killed with it include dramiels, taranis', jaguars, heretics, and sabres. To do so, I find a large pipe system and drop a bubble 90km's from gate. Power to the catch point, and use dscan to determine if my target is worth engaging. When I engage, I almost always hold my target somewhere between 5.5 - 8 km's and pound them with rockets. Ships with active tanks really suffer from the nuet, but against minmatar, its typically more important to limit the incoming dps with range (especially sabres!).
Pros: Most pilots underestimate the flycatcher. This setup can dictate range on 95% of the your standard fit ships. It can bubble..
Cons: Its dps is nothing to brag about. It travels very poorly, and will always die to a gate camp. Truthfully, there are several combat inties and AFs that are more effective using a mobile warp bubble, more survivable, cheaper, and can engage a wider variety of targets.
[Flycatcher, Solo] Damage Control II
1MN Afterburner II J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I Medium Shield Extender II
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Small Core Defence Field Extender I Small Core Defence Field Extender I
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Cpt Bauer
Hole Spectors
1
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Posted - 2011.10.03 11:20:00 -
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It could go somehting like this... 
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14093979
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Smabs
Higher Than Everest BricK sQuAD.
3
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Posted - 2011.10.04 00:17:00 -
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The fit is fine, really, but I think you can do a better job overall with a dualweb hawk, harpy or hookbill. You'd be fighting mostly the same targets with similar chances to kill them, and you'd be better at evading gate camps.
But if you like the flycatcher then go for it. Pretty sure it'll destroy most frigates/dictors. |

flank steak
Ancient Malevolence Rage Alliance
28
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Posted - 2011.10.04 18:06:00 -
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My 2011 alt with T1 guns can kill a flycatcher... Wouldn't recommend it |

Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
5
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Posted - 2011.10.04 18:52:00 -
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Nice kill....
I would like to point out that this was either a very good fight, or the flycatch was improperly flown. The flycatch should easily be able to stay out of your blaster's range, and then its a question of webbing and killing a flight of medium drones before they kill the flycatcher. |

KFenn
Percussive Diplomacy
13
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Posted - 2011.10.04 21:11:00 -
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No damage control, and he clearly flew it wrong if you could hit him in a thorax. The range of the 'catcher is enough to negate blaster DPS.
I'm not even going to touch that one... Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade SLAPD Director |

Meridith Akesia
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
48
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Posted - 2011.10.05 04:22:00 -
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Fit looks decent, should be able to kill the majority of frigs you will find if you fly it right.
Also has no reputation as a good solo ship, so you should get more fights.
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Lugalzagezi666
7
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Posted - 2011.10.05 08:20:00 -
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Dessie with 100+ sig and 7,5k ehp - fitted with ab... Pray for not encountering 2 canes on first gate, because it will be last jump of your roam. |

Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
282
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Posted - 2011.10.05 10:16:00 -
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The only comment I have, and it goes for all slow frig / dessie hulls is that without an mwd you don't get to call the shots on who you engage and are stuck fighting only very bad or willing targets. You also have zero survivability if you hit a half competent gang on a gate. AB only fits are perfectly viable and I use them in certain cases, but I don't know if I would want to do so on a flycatcher.
With rockets, once you have something locked down you should be able to melt most targets before they creep out of scram range anyway so range control during an engagement isn't so urgent.
It ultimately depends what you intend to target in all honestly and you sound like you more or less know what you are up to so have fun GÖÑ GÖÑ Haviing your portrait painted here helps INTAKI Disabled Children GÖÑ |

Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
42
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Posted - 2011.10.05 16:19:00 -
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I'm not sure any dictor without mwd is viable in low-sec. Even with mwd I think you're going to be targeted as an expensive destroyer.
If you have something VERY specific in mind then OK give it a go. Otherwise it'll be "ooo T2 shiny with no tank or speed, kill it now". |
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