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rtbzneeezz
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Posted - 2007.11.25 05:07:00 -
[91]
 Originally by: Argenton Sayvers
These scams are good for 2 things.
1. See Dark Shikari's posts
2. a list of people you dont really want to play games with.
"OMG this immoral scum bluffed me into thinking he has full house, while he only has 10 / 2"
Also good for flying pimped out.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.11.25 05:20:00 -
[92]
Originally by: rtbzneeezz
Edited by: rtbzneeezz on 25/11/2007 05:17:07
Tanking Setups Compared
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Riethe
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Posted - 2007.11.25 09:11:00 -
[93]
Originally by: kitex
Here's a real-life exercise in social engineering akin to what you've accomplished here: Go find a fat 6 year old eating a french fry. Before he eats it, tell them that if he gives you the fry, you'll give him a whole basket of french fries in return. If he gives you the fry, laugh right in that fat 6 year old's face, then go tell all his buddies about how you social engineered his ass HARD.
Oh man, this had me in stitches. I feel like I should be paying you.
Somewhere in your post you said something about how Shadarle has never described himself as an "expert" social engineer. I wasn't trying to say he had. He just likes to manipulate people. And find the post where I referred to myself as an "expert" or anything along those lines.
I simply have made reference to the methods employed to make something like this happen.
And my whole joke about offering lessons on manipulation was just that--a joke. If you think that has anything to do with an ego, your sarcasm detector needs tuning. It was just a shot at the guy.
Good try though, I'm sure your ability to misdirect this entire thing and call all my posts boasting or gloating is making you feel a lot better about all this.
People say this was a learning experience, but it wasn't.
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Riethe
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Posted - 2007.11.25 09:20:00 -
[94]
Originally by: kixet
Gratuity to Reithe for amusing me = 1b isk (check your wallet).
Hey kitex, you probably shouldn't ever run a public business, if it's that difficult for you to copy and paste a name.
Just saying.
Good job. Obviously the most basic of tasks are a hurdle for you. Go have some french fries.
(and if you still don't get it: Reithe doesn't exist. Far as I know, it's someone's old dead trial account.)
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Dr Slurm
General Commodities
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Posted - 2007.11.25 10:42:00 -
[95]
Hadn't really gotten around to reading this thread until now.
First off let me say LOL and then thank you for justifying my previous doubt in the newer IPO's.
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Greedy McScrooge
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Posted - 2007.11.25 11:58:00 -
[96]
Oooh a ego stroking thread. Can I play too?
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Riethe
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Posted - 2007.11.25 12:45:00 -
[97]
If Taikun were to come and post something here, it would just make me such a happy camper.
Pretty please?
Greedy McScrooge: holy crap you've got a lot of photoshop skills.
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.25 13:02:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Riethe
Greedy McScrooge: holy crap you've got a lot of photoshop skills.
He could also have blown up alot of battleships on sisi, or something :)
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
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Posted - 2007.11.25 13:02:00 -
[99]
I said it on the mailing list, and I'll say it here too.
I see some people saying how they lost all the ISK they had and how they're now taking an extended vacation from EVE.
Now, I'm a pretty new fact to this section of the forums and the Market scene itself, but even I knew enough not to throw any ISK into the pot that would be damaging for me to lose. As a personal rule I wouldn't put any ISK into anything that I can't easily make back in a week, tops. I've made more AFK mining Veldspar on a second character while I do things around the house like clean or work out than I invested.
Hopefully some people will learn about their limitations from this. It's the same rules that apply for running a hauler or a Freighter around. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. And, in the case of investments, don't invest what you can't afford to lose.
This is like gambling. Some you win, some go bust. This one went bust. Others will win.
Short of some of the attempts at belittlement amongst some people in here, this thread and Riethe will be forgotten and buried in a few days I'd imagine.
Riethe did, at least, make for some good late night talk on my nights off from work anyway, and provided a good lesson on what to avoid and watch out for from any future potential investments for me.
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I need new lovers in my bed,
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Riethe
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Posted - 2007.11.25 13:36:00 -
[100]
I'm not really sure how many of those posts are genuine, though.
It seems to be a relatively automatic response to act as if their loss was greater than it is to get some sort of compensation back because I'm supposed to feel bad for playing the game.
I've had a few people ask for their money back.
Does no one get it?
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2007.11.25 13:45:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Riethe
I've had a few people ask for their money back.
Does no one get it?
Thats because your annoucement of Scamhood was to subtle, I bet these are the same people who didnt even really read your IPO or SPO threads, and just tossed isk at you because they saw "everyone" else doing it.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.25 14:02:00 -
[102]
Yeh, well I like pickles
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
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Posted - 2007.11.25 14:20:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Riethe
I've had a few people ask for their money back.
Well...
Can I? 
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I need new voices in my head,
To speak my secret evils with.
I need new lovers in my bed,
To be my friends and special pets. |
Kitex
Blacktag Test Labs
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Posted - 2007.11.25 17:03:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Riethe
Originally by: kixet
Gratuity to Reithe for amusing me = 1b isk (check your wallet).
Hey kitex, you probably shouldn't ever run a public business, if it's that difficult for you to copy and paste a name.
Just saying.
Good job. Obviously the most basic of tasks are a hurdle for you. Go have some french fries.
(and if you still don't get it: Reithe doesn't exist. Far as I know, it's someone's old dead trial account.)
I sent 1b to a dead trial account? Damn. I guess I should go have some french fries.
What's funny is that you apparently took that bit seriously, and checked your wallet.
Social engineer, or silly douche?
As for the misspelling of your name, I guess you're just that memorable. And as for me trying to make myself feel better about this, why should I feel bad? I didn't lose anything, and your posts were good for a few minutes entertainment.
Blacktag - Buy ships / Fittings / Drones / Ammo in BULK with Delivery! |
Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
United Connection's
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Posted - 2007.11.25 19:04:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Riethe
FastLearner, I've been around a lot longer than you realize.
Are you R0me0? You talk a bit like him.
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.11.25 19:07:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Riethe
FastLearner, I've been around a lot longer than you realize.
Are you R0me0? You talk a bit like him.
Its fun you mention it. It was my very first thought aswell.
But a few thing lacks. One being the large usage of "lol".
But the fact that he likes to say he did it by the rules points to R0ME0. He just havent pointed to the GM's yet.
So i cant quite tell. But could be.
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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
United Connection's
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Posted - 2007.11.25 19:10:00 -
[107]
Originally by: LaVista Vista
One being the large usage of "lol".
He didn't use to over use that word...
so he could "turn it off" when it suits.
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Riethe
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Posted - 2007.11.25 22:40:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Kitex
I sent 1b to a dead trial account? Damn. I guess I should go have some french fries.
What's funny is that you apparently took that bit seriously, and checked your wallet.
Social engineer, or silly douche?
As for the misspelling of your name, I guess you're just that memorable. And as for me trying to make myself feel better about this, why should I feel bad? I didn't lose anything, and your posts were good for a few minutes entertainment.
Yup, the moment I saw your post I quickly ran in game to celebrate the 1 billion ISK I would have never seen without you, kitex.
Or, more likely, it was your intention to begin with, so you could say crazy things about how difficult it will be to remember this. You must be some kind of detective, because the most important thing to me right now is making sure you remember. Please remember this. Please?
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.11.25 22:44:00 -
[109]
Awwww... poor Riethe.
Did you feel all lonely with your thread getting slowly buried? If you like we can all set up a Riethe support group to help dry up your tears as you realize that we really don't care about you anymore.
You are yesterday's news and we have already left you behind.
But please, thrill and delight us with you bumping your own thread up. The more you do it, the greater our joy in your cries for attention.
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Riethe
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Posted - 2007.11.25 22:48:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
Originally by: Riethe
I've had a few people ask for their money back.
Well...
Can I?
Didn't you say you already earned it back?
Originally by: some guy
I've made more AFK mining Veldspar on a second character while I do things around the house like clean or work out than I invested.
Yup, you were around the house and you already got that money back!! don't try to fool me minerva, you sly dog.
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Riethe
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Posted - 2007.11.25 22:49:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Awwww... poor Riethe.
Did you feel all lonely with your thread getting slowly buried? If you like we can all set up a Riethe support group to help dry up your tears as you realize that we really don't care about you anymore.
You are yesterday's news and we have already left you behind.
But please, thrill and delight us with you bumping your own thread up. The more you do it, the greater our joy in your cries for attention.
I forgot that you're not allowed to reply to people on the forums. forgot about that one.
also, I find it incredibly ironic, that for some reason, every time you post, your text is wrapped in [ justify ] tags, but for some reason I always read it literally, like you have some attitude, or something. Oh, wait.
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
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Posted - 2007.11.25 23:00:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Riethe
Didn't you say you already earned it back?
Mostly, actually. It's been what, a day and a half?
Never hurts to try and get a little more though now does it?
Originally by: Riethe
Yup, you were around the house and you already got that money back!! don't try to fool me minerva, you sly dog.
What I invested was a bit less than half of my alt corp's wallet, which is in fact by and large ISK made from AFK mining whilst I do things around the house, along with a little bit from cashing in some LP for sellable items when I was getting a couple alts some standings.
That, of course, if you'd remember out conversations, is nowhere near my main wallet.
Like I predicted, a few days and this will be well good and forgotten.
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I need new voices in my head,
To speak my secret evils with.
I need new lovers in my bed,
To be my friends and special pets. |
Riethe
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Posted - 2007.11.26 00:34:00 -
[113]
The problem with the last statement you made, regarding this being forgotten, is that it conflicts with your previous statement, that multiple people have invested their life savings and now have nothing.
Those people might have a hard time forgetting why they can't buy a kestrel to run their level 1 missions.
Hell, as much as people want to deny it, this could easily be the kick in the butt that everyone needs to stop fooling around and start taking investments seriously.
High five to the first guy that interprets this post as me gloating and boasting again.
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Freudian Slip
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Posted - 2007.11.26 02:35:00 -
[114]
Well, I read it that Riethe was an intelligent guy that seemed to have what he thought was a good idea. This was backed up by his last months dividends. He replied to posts and seemed to have swayed quite a few people to believe in him. Well, we were all wrong. Now he gets to play Mr. Superior and the "Oh, I scammed you all and you are all losers" game. This is relatively evident by his replies. A truly heartless person wouldn't have even replied to anyone. So he is doing this to feel better about himself to compensate from some other physical, mental or emotional shortcoming.
Riethe, you need help. Even though it is only a game, you still hurt people. You stole the fruits of their labor and that shows a severe case of moral turpitude. I actually pity you.
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Benvie
Benvie Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.11.26 02:43:00 -
[115]
The expanded bond after a single large dividend from the original bond was a huge warning sign. People even said as much in the thread. That combined with the payout rate is why I didn't invest, the scam potential to me was way higher than the 15% payout. It surprises me that so many people did invest.
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Riethe
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Posted - 2007.11.26 02:58:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Freudian Slip
..something about heartless people, etc... So he is doing this to feel better about himself to compensate from some other physical, mental or emotional shortcoming.
Riethe, you need help. Even though it is only a game, you still hurt people. You stole the fruits of their labor and that shows a severe case of moral turpitude. I actually pity you.
Next time you manipulate the market for your own profit, next time you drag someone's prices down just to buy up all their orders cheaply, next time you pop a battleship out in space, you're doing the exact same thing I've done here. Except it'll take you a lot longer to make equal profits.
Originally by: Benvie
The expanded bond after a single large dividend from the original bond was a huge warning sign. People even said as much in the thread. That combined with the payout rate is why I didn't invest, the scam potential to me was way higher than the 15% payout. It surprises me that so many people did invest.
Clearly you are just a scholar of investments and in the future everyone should seek you for your incredible abilities to assess these things. And it's made even more painfully obvious of how incredible you are by the fact that you warned everyone in the previous posts.
You are just such a delight, Benvie.
Currently experiencing a severe case of moral turpitude
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Benvie
Benvie Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.11.26 03:09:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Riethe
Clearly you are just a scholar of investments and in the future everyone should seek you for your incredible abilities to assess these things. And it's made even more painfully obvious of how incredible you are by the fact that you warned everyone in the previous posts.
You are just such a delight, Benvie.
What is your problem exactly?
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Taikun
Gallente
Serenity Prime
Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.11.26 06:58:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Riethe
If Taikun were to come and post something here, it would just make me such a happy camper.
Pretty please?
IBTL.
Taikun
For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good.
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Riethe
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Posted - 2007.11.26 07:03:00 -
[119]
YES!
I'm sending 1 billion isk to Tiakun. I'm glad you could make it, buddy.
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Taikun
Gallente
Serenity Prime
Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.11.26 07:06:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: Riethe
Man, excuses. what. Shadarle you're too naive to realize that your normal attitude does not work here. I think you're a jerk to every one, but your attempts to manipulate me will be futile, just like my attempts toward you.
Shadarle has never been a jerk to me. I just had to clarify that absolute statement you made.
Give it time.... give it time.
Taikun
For lack of a better word ladies and gentlemen... Greed is good.
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