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Hungo Minmatar Unholy Foundation Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.24 09:41:00 - [1] Now alot of people will ask why im making this post and it's basically to let EVE know why and how KOS are so pathetic that the leadership AKA Senate feels the need to get personally involved in all corps in the alliance business. Okay So Bullet points - PVP - This is just a joke, the fleet commanders have the collective brain cells of a bunch of donkeys spraying each other with water hoses. Every time a hostile gang is spotted kosems the 0.0 Intel channel goes wild with Get safe hostile gang coming, get to stations. You cannot FC in KOS without being yelled at by the senate for attempting to help. Not to mention that they cannot pvp for crap. I mean a 3 man FIX gang routed 25 KOS members. Stations - This is the juicy scoop here - On each KOS station there is only about 30% maximum of the moons covered because they lack the actual in house ability to field more than 1 Large POS per corp. The station systems themselves are easily take able. You only have to launch an offensive, let's be honest. Not as if they could stop you. Industry - This again is a joke, there is no in house working together at all. barely any alliance ops and when your not being yelled at by the senate your being ORDERED to un-dock your carrier when there are 25 enemy Vaga's in system. The Senate - In all my time in EVE i have NEVER met such a collective group of people who and excuse me for saying this. Have there own head stuck so far up each other butts they can barley function. The senate meetings REQUIRE you to surrender three hours of your life on a Saturday to discuss a bunch of crap that doesn't even need a meeting to discuss. This is not taking into account that there ego's are so sensitive that if you say shut up they instantly order the corporation your in to boot you. Why Am I Being Booted And Why Am I making This Post - To the first bit. last night a 25 Man vaga gang with mixed other ships from (Digital Renegades) entered DZ6. i was in station with my carrier. This is a logistic's carrier, not pvp fitting nor reps on board. A KOS Senior senator convoed me and said When they return to the station i am ordering you to undock and Engage At this point i said no way and closed the convo. After all what use is a cargo expander carrier with no fighters useful for? I am being kicked because i refused to use my carrier as a scape goat so three haulers full of ICE could get out the system safely. i should loose my carrier for a stupid POS? I think NOT. Why make this post? - To make sure that well, i am a beta player, ive watched major alliances go thru change, ive watched alliances rise and fall from CA and have had friends in all. I am urging anyone to either wipe KOS off the planet or simply don;t join them. Revenge post? maybe. But needed i think. Discuss n stuff or smack me, either way it's served it's purpose. I am not a smacker, i rarely post at all. The fact of the matter is, if you are thinking of joining KOS, unless you want to be blind obedience to the Senate who expect u to snap to salute when they speak. Rethink your options. Hungo the Barbarian Out
Hungo Minmatar Unholy Foundation Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.24 09:49:00 - [2] Originally by: Angelsfist Valid points, but the question that remains is: Why doesn't you, who are a "beta player", have pvp fittings for your carrier ready to fit when a situation arise? They where in Thakala awaiting my next carrier jump from empire. I had no need to fit pvp fittings as it was not my intention to loose the carrier to sum idiotic ego driven KOS fc who doesn't even know what call primary's means After all, why loose a carrier if you don;t have to? Ill fight, i love pvp, but im not gonna be stupid with it
Hungo Minmatar Unholy Foundation Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.24 10:36:00 - [3] Originally by: Desiderata Fabian Self righteous, selfish, canÆt follow orders? Man they are probably better off without you. LOL So i should loose my carrier so three haulers with ice in don't get blown when theyh belong to another corp? Where the executor corp gets to pick the best moons in any region they hold and the craps ones are given to the rest. How the president logs on @ thanks giving and demands all KOS to be helping goons knock out a POS which would be 2AM UK/EU time and 10PM US time on thanks giving. They expect instant obedience, i think not, get a clue dude :0
Hungo Minmatar Unholy Foundation Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.24 10:52:00 - [4] Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke If you're not ready to do your part, to go the extra mile when asked for the benefit of something bigger, then perhaps Hello Kitty Online might be a better choice for you. Don't be a fool, there is no point in risking a carrier so that three CLOAKED haulers can leave system who where t a pos awaiting the order to run when and if i undocked. I would go the extra mile when needed but i will not loose my carrier so they can run off Don't be nieve, all three haulers had cloaks on
Hungo Minmatar Unholy Foundation Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.24 11:01:00 - [5] Originally by: Mr Broker don't think you're alliance material, maybe you should try a low-sec pirate corp? Please think before you type, have you looked at my sec stat? Do i look like a pirate to you?
Hungo Minmatar Unholy Foundation Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.24 11:05:00 - [6] Originally by: El Spooky Originally by: Hungo Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke If you're not ready to do your part, to go the extra mile when asked for the benefit of something bigger, then perhaps Hello Kitty Online might be a better choice for you. Don't be a fool, there is no point in risking a carrier so that three CLOAKED haulers can leave system who where t a pos awaiting the order to run when and if i undocked. I would go the extra mile when needed but i will not loose my carrier so they can run off Don't be nieve, all three haulers had cloaks on And once you had caused this distraction the thing that was stoping you from re-docking was? U ever seen 5 vagas at top speed hit a carrier from below or above? You end up very far from docking. So no, if i was pvp fitted sure, why the hell not, but i wasnt
Hungo Minmatar Unholy Foundation Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.24 11:22:00 - [7] to the PO above me. Your opinion or lack or it really isn't my concern. KOS are nap happy idiots who NAP anyone they possible can, and your a fool for believing any other way, I'm not going to risk a 1.5 bil carrier on a slim chance i mite survive. Don't be nieve And the poaster who was chest beating kos holds lot of space And what happend when bobs started to hit KOS space? u lost two stations in 4 days and if it wasnt for tcf/goon/ra logistics u wouldn't be where u are now.
Hungo Minmatar Unholy Foundation Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.24 13:45:00 - [8] Originally by: WeightedCompanionCube Just wondering what this logistics setup was carrying instead of fighters in the drone bay. Sorry for my late reply but i was doing the whole real life thing I was fitted with harvesters n cargo expanders n i was filed with ammo/bpos
Hungo Minmatar Unholy Foundation Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.24 14:41:00 - [9] Originally by: Mariko San Got nothing to do with that. If his side is true, that is incredibly stupid to risk a non pvp setup capital so 3 indies don't have to wait 5 mins to move 'ice'. On no planet or dimension would that ever make any intelligent sense when they could have waited for 5 minutes for them to move on This is a great point that I think most people are missing. I follow orders without question, but that's because I am confident in my leadership that an order would never be issued like the one under discussion. I'm also surprised that your corp. didn't try and back you after your decision. Didn't your ceo hae anything to say about it, or is he powerless against the 'senate' Scared of the senate is a better word
Hungo Minmatar Unholy Foundation Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.24 15:09:00 - [10] Originally by: exxxie I for one thank you Hungo. You saved Elliot from being truncated from the mail and saved our killboard from another tourrettes outburst. You are ofc welcome and im sorry my common sense robbed you of a carrier kill mail :P
Hungo Minmatar Unholy Foundation Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.11.24 15:34:00 - [11] Originally by: Firkragg LOL at OP. Dont know what he's been smoking PVP - im involved in a ton of pvp ops in KOS and ive never seen this guy so im assuming hes some carebear type we can do without stations - nah we dont even deploy pos, in fact we just place a container at each moon called "please dont put a pos here" industry - We have some very strong industry corps. Im guessing you are one of those corps who feels that they need to have their hands held in everything they do by the alliance? Senate - Senates are always talking shops but its the only place to make sure that there is a place to bring up any concerns. If we on the other hand had no meeting like this you would probabaly be here complaining about it being a dictatorships. Why you are being booted. Nobody would ask you to suicide your carrier for no reason. On the other hand if its you just docking up to save your own hide rather than going to a pos to give fighter support then that entirely a different matter. Tbh going on what you have wrote im really not gonna start crying that you are leaving us. Also in regards to the isk farmer matter if you see an isk farmer and they are flying under kos mail someone from the kos leadership with the details so we can get rid of them. KOS is not a fan of isk farmers and i know that we have had them in the past but we welcome any help in purging the rest of them who are hiding in none isk farmer corps. Impressive ton of crap there but then, lets be honest, what are KOS good for except accepting ISK farmers and loosing multiple ships at once. Go away Firk. because fact is, your the first to dock up

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