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Kirjava
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Posted - 2007.11.24 23:57:00 -
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Gram for Gram I would say the UK is unrivaled, ofc it is outclassed by China and the US, but the quality of training and the level of technology in our equipment would mean we could take on a larger force and win.
 Originally by: N1fty
So what your really trying to get at is that the universe is in fact Emo?
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2007.11.25 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ilvan
Originally by: Oventoasted
i hate freedom of the press! they have too much freedom if you ask me. barging into peoples lives. reporting false statements. stretching the true or just out right lying!
makes me angry.
I ******* hope you're being sarcastic.
Well, in all honesty the press do seem to be akin to a pack of hyenas screaming for blood at the mention of anything remotely interesting, in the case of many tabloids, just anything.
Originally by: N1fty
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2007.11.25 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: Multras
News cameras are more deadly then guns in a war.
I remember a few US troops decided to follow this line of thought - they sniped a cameraman in Iraq (British btw) beleiveing it to be a rocket launcher.
I thought snipers were supposed to have good vision and recon skills 
Originally by: N1fty
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2007.11.25 18:43:00 -
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Let's remember that although the Americas would be safe from Chinese invasion due to the Pacific Ocean, Europe is not so similarly spared..... If it came to it they could just march West and get here with a walking army
On the otherhand, we could just build fortresses in the Ural's and just wait till we run out of ammo.
Originally by: N1fty
So what your really trying to get at is that the universe is in fact Emo?
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.25 23:26:00 -
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Heres a Hypothetical for you, the EU vs USA, what would that particular war be like, let's say a while after Galileo is completed and the German's have their supersonic torpedoes ready (I heard about these from a freind, apparenty they have air canisters that are released as bubbles just in front of it to reduce friction, they move faster than sound waves in water so a sub never sees them on sonar....).
Originally by: N1fty
So what your really trying to get at is that the universe is in fact Emo?
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.25 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Thorliaron
Originally by: Kirjava
Heres a Hypothetical for you, the EU vs USA, what would that particular war be like, let's say a while after Galileo is completed and the German's have their supersonic torpedoes ready (I heard about these from a freind, apparenty they have air canisters that are released as bubbles just in front of it to reduce friction, they move faster than sound waves in water so a sub never sees them on sonar....).
If the EU was ever to turn into a superstate with one army i think they would seriously give america a run for their money, America would proberly have to rely on their navy fleet?
If they did then the mentioned Supersonic Torpedoes would be a problem for them, think remote batteries sitting in the Atlantic waiting to see a Carrier Group going within range and launches a few of these things. Not an avid follower of military tech, but what are American anti torpedo measures? An EU military isn't too far off it seems, Nato minus USA and Canada is essentialy the EU so reorganising might be easier tha you think.
Originally by: N1fty
So what your really trying to get at is that the universe is in fact Emo?
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2007.11.28 21:06:00 -
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Imper, DV, I am neither an avid follower of military technology nor have I been clicking on your links but here is a bit of food for thought.
Until the two go to war we shall never know.
When the American colonies rebelled Britian by current wartime doctrine should have won, but didn't.
Same in Orange country in the Dominion of South Africa, they SHOULD have won much faster, they outgunned out numbered and outmanouvered the colonisers.
Only until it becomes a reality will we know for sure, for all we know some of those Chinese planes could be stripped down on the inside or the Americans for all their numbers and technology simply commanded by incompetents and hence easy targets.
Make a very realistic simulator and don't give the USA side extra power like a few games I played....
That is all.
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2007.11.28 22:14:00 -
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Careful what you say about USA beating Japan by itself, the Manhatten project was a joint endevaur and Japan's Pacific Coperation project was based on getting the Europeans out, Europeans that stood their ground and fought against Japan aswell.
The Dominion of Australia for instance (before the Westminster decleration).
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2007.11.28 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sister Impotentata
If it's between my death and the death of my aggressor, damn straight I'm going to use every dirty trick I know. If it's between my country's death and the death of my country's aggressor, my leader better use every dirty trick he knows. Both firebombings were horrible, but I do not despise the leaders responsible for either.
My point entirely.
I would dare to say that since the current generation in power has not experienced war, so cannot be enlightened by what we have not experienced. Should we be forced into such a position survival comes first, then mutual respect and enlightenment in the aftermath and hoping that the next generations can understand what the previous went through and not repeat those mistakes.
It is however human nature to learn the hard way, if it were possible to transfer the enlightenment the WW2 survivors had then we wouldn't be faced with the current situations we are now straddled with.
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2007.11.29 09:11:00 -
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It is a multi role. From looking on Wikipedia there are different vairiants for each role, bomber configurations and dogfighter configurations ect.
They were surprised? What were they expececting, it's Europes main fighter jet 
I think they said on Top Gear it has light armor, it is desighned to evade getting hit in the first place as opposed to taking damage, speed tanking ftw!
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2007.11.29 11:36:00 -
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Soc, UK logistics is getting a heavy boost with the new Aircraft carrier's HMS Elizabeth II and HMS Prince of Wales to augment the Invincible series for the forseeable future.
Developed nations do have the ability for unrestricted warfare, I cannot see Military leaders allowing their people to be slaughtered on masse just to keep the moral high ground, they may even take power for the duration of the war if the Civilian governent is deeped incompetent and unfit for command if the mainland was attacked (I am thinking of Britian here).
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2007.11.29 23:28:00 -
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Let us thank god that the Finnish are in the EU.
Also, the sun never set's on the British Empire.....
.....because God is scared of being left in the dark with it.
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2007.11.30 12:01:00 -
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I wonder, what are the odds of the EU getting a single integrated military within the next 10-20 years?
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2007.11.30 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Der Komissar
Originally by: Kirjava
I wonder, what are the odds of the EU getting a single integrated military within the next 10-20 years?
Guess you haven't watched that "Blueprint for World Domination" documentary (or what was it called?)
Nope, I dont realy watch much TV, is it on youtube?
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2007.11.30 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: NightHaunter
I hate these stupid ******* threads.
I mean FFS, if we are going to have a completely hypothetical, meaningless debate, atleast post some criteria for "bestes armiez in teh wurlds" for us, ****.
My suggestion, make a thread where people with a similar mindset can whine about it - this topic was made so people who like hypothetical meaningless debate to have a hypothetical meaningless debate without dereailing other topics.
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