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S3VYN	Posted - 2004.03.06 04:39:00 - [1] Quote: I attempted to do a spot of gate camping tonight. And to my shock and horror i was engaged by sentry guns. I was at least 65k from the nearest gun. I hope this is only a bug. In case it is I have filed a bug report. If it is by design then I will have to say adios gring to ccp. Be a good little camper and go complain about something on the forums! ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
S3VYN	Posted - 2004.03.06 17:55:00 - [2] Edited by: S3VYN on 06/03/2004 18:01:01 Quote: losers? lol. stick to what you do best carebear. stop posting. Silly carebear, don't you know that the forums are only for pirates and THEIR opinions? Quit clogging up the forums with opinions that a MMORPG should be about teamwork and strategy instead of "point and click style fighting" like a FPS. Really, it's sad to see that none of the real pirates post to things like this to shut down their whining cohorts. The gate-camping community won't be happy until there is a guaranteed kill in 1.0 space every time they decide they want to ruin someone's day. You guys need to understand something. The people you gank while gate camping have spent a LOT of time and energy gathering whatever you just took from them in 30 seconds. It's much easier for you to adapt to a new situation (such as increased sentry ranges) than it is for those people to rebuild whatever they lost. Now let's say you actually went hunting and found people in belts to gank... Well, they have a fighting chance first of all, secondly they are doing something profitable in an area where they know the risks and thirdly you guys are almost guaranteed that the kill will be worth it. The chances of someone with no money and no ships actually spending time working in low security space are much smaller than that same player passing through low security space using the gates. I really think you guys are just griefers. The reason I say this is that I talk to pirates on a routine basis who would LOVE to actually PvP someone in 0.0 space. But you guys don't GO THERE TO FIGHT THEM. Instead you sit at gates and shoot the helpless. Any progress CCP can make towards separating the real pirates from you wanna-bes is well placed. Real pirates still make money, real pirates still have territories and real pirates are STILL A THREAT TO ALLIANCES. Gate camp 0.0 territory if you are hell-bent on gate camping. You guys who are complaining are simply low-skilled and uncreative if you can't find ways OTHER THAN GATE CAMPING EMPIRE SPACE to kill people in industrials or strong ships with mining setups. Finally... gate camping is NOT PvP. I don't see ANY changes CCP has made to actual PvP that will keep you from fighting another willing and prepared individual. You guys hide behind the banner that you want better PvP when in reality you want less risk for yourself when in general you are ALREADY SHOOTING HELPLESS PLAYERS. Edit: typo :\ ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
S3VYN	Posted - 2004.03.06 19:10:00 - [3] You'll get no disagreement from me on that particular point Jash. But it doesn't make the people who would choose to gate camp gates where they KNOW the majority of people are newbies any less lame. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
S3VYN	Posted - 2004.03.06 21:05:00 - [4] Nope... I'm claiming that gate camping 1.0 gates in a 0.4 system is lame. This has always been my feeling and you won't change that. I'm not a pirate. I don't know what you can and cannot do. I know that gate camping seems extremely lame. I ALSO know that I watched Tank CEO's video 100 times or so and those guys were getting paid OR getting kill satisfaction. I think it's ludicrous for all of these other people to run to the forums and cry because their easy prey has been taken away. Tank and CO. didn't seem to have any problem finding prey and eliminating it in a couple of hours. Perhaps you need to acquire the skill level those guys have before you can be an effective pirate? I don't know, that's not my direction. All I do know is they can do it and you claim you can't. So as a recap... 1) There is documented proof that it is possible and can be done by a few players in a timely fashion and with a high profit margin. 2) People here claim they can NOT do this. 3) I'm the one with a problem? hmmm.... ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
S3VYN	Posted - 2004.03.07 04:42:00 - [5] Quote: S3VYN, your rather clever in dodging my points. the way you always bring up that gate to 1.0 is an example of this. that gate is completly irrelevant. what you want to do is just shifting the frontier one system. could we discuss the general issue of gateguns here, and not one specific case please? did all systems need a nerf, for that one gate? My concerns are specific. I'm not dodging any of your arguments, it's just that I don't really care about them. My specific concerns in my posting can be summed up by saying I run a corporation who thrives on helping brand new players learn the game and enjoy it. I thought that was an honorable calling in the game, some say I'm a carebear and throw other remarks meant to be derogitory at me. Whatever. This specific gate became a problem when Shiva was released because Orvolle went from a 0.5 area to a 0.4. Immediately it became a warzone and many players were trapped and killed there and still are. Fighting is really cool in this game. I like that you guys do it and hope you continue to. I may even have to try it soon to see what all the hubbub is about. I like the way things are set up now. I wouldn't have changed the sentry gun range if it were up to me but now it's done. My whole goal is to get people away from the camping of systems in empire space and open things up a bit. I think, honestly, that it would make the game more fun for everyone, not just me. I don't have an axe to grind, I honestly want the game to be better for everyone. Don't misunderstand my opinions for arguments. I'm simply carrying out a debate on the forum so we can find the best information possible for CCP to base future changes on. I respect your opinions and when talking about PvP you are obviously going to be correct on things much more than I am as you have superior experience to me in that field. I don't think it should be any easier than it already is (from my point of view and the way I play the game) for someone to kill me. Take that at face value. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
S3VYN	Posted - 2004.03.07 18:32:00 - [6] I do agree with the argument that you guys should have been warned earlier about the range change. I wouldn't be happy if mechanics fundamental to my survival changed without notice and I lost a ship over it. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
S3VYN	Posted - 2004.03.21 22:39:00 - [7] Edited by: S3VYN on 21/03/2004 22:40:08 As soon as the people who whine on posts like this do what they should have done all along and move into 0.0 space instead of trying to gank n00bs in empire space. The thing is, most of those who come here to whine about things like sentries are too scared to go to 0.0 because the REAL PvP'ers hang there and these kiddies can't cut it. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.
S3VYN	Posted - 2004.03.24 15:13:00 - [8] I really wish people would quit using the term "mining simulator" and try to think up something original. I'm just about sick AND TIRED of people who say they want to fight but are too much of a n00b to do so in 0.0 space. The short of it is, either you're good enough to fight or you're not. CCP making it easier for you to pick on new players in empire space is NOT the solution. If you want to head into 0.0 space there are PLENTY of opportunities to fight. The whole "mining simulator" term was coined by a bitter n00b and is continued to be used by the same personality type. It's lame so quit using it. ------------------------------------- // The views expressed by this poster are not the views of the poster's corporation, alliance, planet or television network... but they should be.

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