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Alexandra Alt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.06 15:33:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:Alexandra Alt wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:I'm not web guru by any means. But, wouldn't the concern of exploit be eliminated by CCP allowing images displayed/linked to from approved image hosting? It would keep CCP from having to host images which will never happen. And would provide the community with at least an option to have images in their posts which is a very popular feature. The forum could scrub any link not on the approved list just like it does for bad words. This could of course be temporary until CCP can fix the interwebz and make it safe for everyone. Otherwise, we'll never have images. Tbh, implementing that feature, and implementing the inside the forum image upload feature there isn't much difference, and I would (if I would be a decision maker at CCP) rather more implement it myself that being dependent on a third party site. No 'a' third party site. There are plenty of legit image hosting sites out there. It's not a perfect solution. It's a bandaid to at least give the players the ability while CCP corrects the fundamental issues with the interwebz.
What part of that 'bandaid' gives about the same work as implementing the in the forum upload space you haven't understood ?
As CCP Rhayger said right now the issue is about planning work hours for tasks, and those things take time, your 'bandaid' would take the same time being approved (working at a company like CCP is not the same as you making bandaids in some personal forums where ppl fool around) and the implementation is about the same as the first idea. |

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.09.06 15:40:00 -
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Alexandra Alt wrote:Jade Constantine wrote: See I don't find images in signatures to be superfluous at all. Eve players like signatures, they personalize and express creativity, they foster corporate and alliance tribalism and they have enabled the emergent gameplay of design service for in-game isk for space artists. This issue is about functionality and feature set that we already had that was removed by an "expansion" in the software.
You could see some parallels with "incarna losing us the hanger environment" if you were being cruel.
But I think it is a mistake to start de-prioritizing the restoration of forum signatures at the cost of the players who like these things and might well get paid ISK for producing them on the grounds its not core FIS (I HATE THAT TERM) development.
Lets face it - a lot of eve spaceship balancing is ridiculously trivial number juggling too but that still doesn't get done.
New eve forums and web team and here now to talk to us - lets encourage them to complete the project properly and maybe that instinct might spread a bit wider round the canteen if the players are happy with them doing it.
*shrugs*
Crazily optimistic but sue me!
Well, there we go, our posts are reflections of our opinion, obviously what I wrote is my opinion, and as I respect yours I do expect the same, for me they are superfluous, you make several good points that support your opinion, and I do respect that, the thing is, we now have to look at the forums in a different perspective, while before all the services were spread through different platforms/software (api, forums, account, etc) they're going to be inevitably under the same platform (and I do support that, from all perspectives, as a developer and as a user) the security concerns are allot greater, thus all this issue regarding images (or better yet, the inclusion of external resources), to add more to it, in an ssl enable session, which complicates things more due to how easily one can hijack ssl session with man in the middle attacks though it. Now priorities wise, please do think in a team manager perspective where you have X amount of man hours available, Y amount of tasks to do and you need to manage this the best way possible, now depending on all tasks at hand, this 'feature' of allowing images in a signature, can be thought as superfluous, for me, regardless, would be superfluous, but then I don't work for CCP :)
Fair enough to be honest and fair play to you.
Of course, if I did believe the implementation of upload space for signatures/graphics was going to bite into the new cyno / engine trails / launcher graphics scrum budget or get in the way of providing more content for small unit pvp then I'd probably live without them too for a while ... but hey, hearing about how CCP have caste distinctions between Dress Designers and Nebula designers even, I kinda doubt much crossover between the web team and supercap balancing number tweaker.
Basically I think this web/forum/spacebook team are about that element of the game universe so lets get them working on the things that are wrong with it specifically.
So sure, we could debate about which of the many irritating flaws of the new forum should get fixed first :)
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. |

Ajurna Jakar
Jian Products Engineering Group Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.09.06 15:49:00 -
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while we're gettting dev responces. any chance of a reason we cant have coloured text? was that a security issue also? |

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.09.06 15:51:00 -
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Mashie Saldana wrote:I guess it's just a matter of time before people get used to have no signature images here. Actually, what's going to happen is that part of the users will continue to complain, and in return fanboys will argue that we are getting this forum upgrade for free and that this is a distributed release and that CCP will surely iterate very soon. Some of the more extreme shills will insist that they didn't want these usability and customizability features anyway and that those are unnatural for a forum environment anyway. And so it will continue, since there is never a shortage of idiots. |

Eladaris
Excessum Industries Excessum Gaming
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Posted - 2011.09.06 15:59:00 -
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Razin wrote:Actually, what's going to happen is that part of the users will continue to complain, and in return fanboys will argue that we are getting this forum upgrade for free and that this is a distributed release and that CCP will surely iterate very soon.
Actually I think anyone who tries to argue that the forum upgrade was "FREE" needs to look at what 72,000 man hours can buy ya. |

Alexandra Alt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.06 16:07:00 -
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Ajurna Jakar wrote:while we're gettting dev responces. any chance of a reason we cant have coloured text? was that a security issue also?
That is quite a valid question!!! |

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.09.06 16:15:00 -
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Alexandra Alt wrote:AnzacPaul wrote: I confess to know nothing about the subject, but this is interesting point to me. What makes these forums so vulnerable compared to any other?
Heh, really ? is that hard to understand ? For starters, forums are linked to your EveGate account, therefore everything else, hijacking of your account, your details, eventually in the future when everything is consolidated in the same platform (evegate) your API data, etc, etc. On other forums what have u got to loose ? possibly a password, and the revealing of your email, hence those forums rarely bother about any kind of security related to session hijacking and or other vulnerabilities. So the logical conclusion is to separate the forums from the account management. No?
I know, makes too much sense for CCP.
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Joe Skellington
Matari Legion Holding Matari Legion
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Posted - 2011.09.06 16:16:00 -
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.09.06 16:17:00 -
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Eladaris wrote:Razin wrote:Actually, what's going to happen is that part of the users will continue to complain, and in return fanboys will argue that we are getting this forum upgrade for free and that this is a distributed release and that CCP will surely iterate very soon. Actually I think anyone who tries to argue that the forum upgrade was "FREE" needs to look at what 72,000 man hours can buy ya. Well, EVE expansions certainly required man hours, however that never stopped those kind of arguments.
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Alexandra Alt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.06 16:30:00 -
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Razin wrote: So the logical conclusion is to separate the forums from the account management. No?
I know, makes too much sense for CCP.
No, quite wrong, the logical conclusion would be the ability to upload images into the forum and use them from inside, there are a truck load of advantages to have all unified in one platform development wise which in turn provides better and more features for us. |
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