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Iqnius	Posted - 2007.11.26 15:59:00 - [1] Just thought I'd add here. I've recently started getting into battleships onto my alt and from what I've heard and seen the mega is the one to use. Now I'm pretty low skilled, is there any setups that you can use that require T1 or do you have to use T2 to pvp these days? I've read the ship setups but 99% of those require you to have T2 stuff or lump it. Any feedback or advice would be great.
Jessica Fyers	Posted - 2007.11.26 16:04:00 - [2] Had some fun with this setup: 7x best named ion blaster cannon Quad LiF mwd heavy electrochemical cap booster + 800s sensor booster 20km scram 2x LAR 2x eanm 2x magstab DCU berserker drones Understandably without t2 gear you'll be far easier to kill, but you can have your fun. Modules that would be best to have the t2 version of are the LAR, EANM and magstabs.
Eneela M	Posted - 2007.11.26 16:17:00 - [3] just use the best named T1 stuff instead of T2 from the setup thread. It depends how low skilled you're talking as to whether it will be affective, there are alot of high SP players out there so it might be best to avoid 1v1's if you're particularly low skilled.
Jessica Fyers	Posted - 2007.11.26 16:21:00 - [4] Well, training aside, most t2 stuff dont cost much these days. Its important to remember also that SPs and mods aside, you need 'hands on experience'. Its likely you'll lose some ships to get there in the end. Best team up.
MrLobster Clawstrawphonebeer	Posted - 2007.11.26 17:30:00 - [5] Edited by: MrLobster on 26/11/2007 17:31:04 Also rigs help alot 2x Aux Nano Pumps 1x Exp Pump (Should sill the EXP problem hole) Yes using these will decrease your speed, but you can tank better... EDIT: and using faction ammo will give you a lot better DPS _________________________
Edriahn Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2007.11.26 17:36:00 - [6] For closerange blasterboat hyperion would be better. Mega was best onace, but hype is even better IMO.
Jessica Fyers	Posted - 2007.11.26 17:39:00 - [7] That depends largely on your play style: megathron for pure gankage thanks to gun bonuses hyperion for prolonged fights thanks to the tanking bonus
Zirconium Blade	Posted - 2007.11.26 17:45:00 - [8] Originally by: Jessica Fyers That depends largely on your play style: megathron for pure gankage thanks to gun bonuses hyperion for prolonged fights thanks to the tanking bonus /me wonders when the hyperion damage bonus left Hyperion is better than the mega against everything except moderately fast moving targets. Mega = tracking bonus, Hyp = tanking bonus. Both have the same damage bonus. Hyperion has more grid and turret slots.
Jessica Fyers	Posted - 2007.11.26 17:52:00 - [9] Originally by: Zirconium Blade Originally by: Jessica Fyers That depends largely on your play style: megathron for pure gankage thanks to gun bonuses hyperion for prolonged fights thanks to the tanking bonus /me wonders when the hyperion damage bonus left Hyperion is better than the mega against everything except moderately fast moving targets. Mega = tracking bonus, Hyp = tanking bonus. Both have the same damage bonus. Hyperion has more grid and turret slots. Guess i wasnt clear, sorry. Ofc both have a damage bonus, was refering rather to the megathron's tracking bonus.
lyrenna Caldari The Renaissance The Makhai	Posted - 2007.11.26 18:03:00 - [10] Originally by: Zirconium Blade Originally by: Jessica Fyers That depends largely on your play style: megathron for pure gankage thanks to gun bonuses hyperion for prolonged fights thanks to the tanking bonus /me wonders when the hyperion damage bonus left Hyperion is better than the mega against everything except moderately fast moving targets. Mega = tracking bonus, Hyp = tanking bonus. Both have the same damage bonus. Hyperion has more grid and turret slots. 7 low>6 low especialy for fitting magstabs. and for mega trimark rigs, plates damn good gunnerys skills and a bit luck is your friend forget about tanking gank or die!!! if you want to tank hyperion is your best bet.
Zirconium Blade	Posted - 2007.11.26 18:05:00 - [11] Originally by: Jessica Fyers Originally by: Zirconium Blade Originally by: Jessica Fyers That depends largely on your play style: megathron for pure gankage thanks to gun bonuses hyperion for prolonged fights thanks to the tanking bonus /me wonders when the hyperion damage bonus left Hyperion is better than the mega against everything except moderately fast moving targets. Mega = tracking bonus, Hyp = tanking bonus. Both have the same damage bonus. Hyperion has more grid and turret slots. Guess i wasnt clear, sorry. Ofc both have a damage bonus, was refering rather to the megathron's tracking bonus. Well, I guess that depends on your opinion, I'd say if you're fitting for gank, you'll fit blasters, if you fit blasters, your optimal will be in web range, if your optimal is in web range you'll fit two 90% webbers, if you fit two 90% webbers, tracking wont matter much. But the extra gun and the ability to fit neutrons instead of ions will.
Iqnius	Posted - 2007.11.26 18:13:00 - [12] I think I'll be in gangs more then solo. So what would be a good setup for that?
Jessica Fyers	Posted - 2007.11.26 18:13:00 - [13] Originally by: Zirconium Blade Well, I guess that depends on your opinion, I'd say if you're fitting for gank, you'll fit blasters, if you fit blasters, your optimal will be in web range, if your optimal is in web range you'll fit two 90% webbers, if you fit two 90% webbers, tracking wont matter much. But the extra gun and the ability to fit neutrons instead of ions will. 2 webbers on a gank megathron ? Megathron mids: mwd, cap booster, scram, sensor booster.... fitting 2 webs is gonna help how exactly when you have no cap/speed/scram?
Zirconium Blade	Posted - 2007.11.26 18:16:00 - [14] Originally by: Jessica Fyers Originally by: Zirconium Blade Well, I guess that depends on your opinion, I'd say if you're fitting for gank, you'll fit blasters, if you fit blasters, your optimal will be in web range, if your optimal is in web range you'll fit two 90% webbers, if you fit two 90% webbers, tracking wont matter much. But the extra gun and the ability to fit neutrons instead of ions will. 2 webbers on a gank megathron ? Megathron mids: mwd, cap booster, scram, sensor booster.... fitting 2 webs is gonna help how exactly when you have no cap/speed/scram? Hyperion?
Kenneth McCoy Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.26 20:14:00 - [15] If your in a gang, the best help your going to be is damage. Your going to be taken out fast anyway, mega's are good primaries in a small fight. So do as much dps as you can for as long as possible. Neutrons, plates, magstabs, trimarks. Forget tanking. My opinions and views are not the official views of my Corp.
Aeaus The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.11.26 20:22:00 - [16] Originally by: Kenneth McCoy If your in a gang, the best help your going to be is damage. Your going to be taken out fast anyway, mega's are good primaries in a small fight. So do as much dps as you can for as long as possible. Neutrons, plates, magstabs, trimarks. Forget tanking. This.
El Torrent Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.11.27 06:07:00 - [17] I really don't get it why someone would use anything else then a Plated Neutron Thron. For anything active tank, the Hyperion is superior. But then again Solo BS fights are more or less dead, so I do not really see much of a reason to board it. Neutron thron all the way. --
Niffetin Gallente CONsordium Infinate	Posted - 2007.11.27 07:46:00 - [18] Edited by: Niffetin on 27/11/2007 07:47:34 Originally by: El Torrent I really don't get it why someone would use anything else then a Plated Neutron Thron. For anything active tank, the Hyperion is superior. But then again Solo BS fights are more or less dead, so I do not really see much of a reason to board it. Neutron thron all the way. What he said. Cookiecutter NeutronMega: 7x Neutron Blaster Cannon II 1x 100mn MWD II 1x Faint Warp Prohibitor 1x Fleeting Web 1x Heavy Elec Cap Booster 2x 1600mm Tungsten 1x EANM II 1x DCU II 3x Mag Stab II 5x Ogre II 3x Trimark Armor Pump Add HG Slave Set, +5% Hardwirings (Large Hybrid/Armor HP, All Turret Damage) and you can do almost 1300 DPS (1270). With max skills ofcourse. I think it should fit with -3% Turret CPU Usage Implant but not sure as I use -5% one myself. If you want to use this without the Implant you have to change the EANM II for Shadow Serp/Amarr Navy or similiar and DCU II for Internal Force Field Array. WTS: Armageddon / Void L / Mobile Large Warp Disruptor
Vandamsel Gallente Dark Star LTD Atrocitas	Posted - 2007.11.27 07:48:00 - [19] Originally by: Niffetin Originally by: El Torrent I really don't get it why someone would use anything else then a Plated Neutron Thron. For anything active tank, the Hyperion is superior. But then again Solo BS fights are more or less dead, so I do not really see much of a reason to board it. Neutron thron all the way. What he said. Cookiecutter NeutronMega: 7x Neutron Blaster Cannon II 1x 100mn MWD II 1x Faint Warp Prohibitor 1x Fleeting Web 1x Heavy Elec Cap Booster 2x 1600mm Tungsten 1x EANM II 1x DCU II 3x Mag Stab II 5x Ogre II 3x Trimark Armor Pump Add HG Slave Set, +5% Hardwirings (Large Hybrid/Armor HP, All Turret Damage) and you can do almost 1300 DPS (1270). With max skills ofcourse. this setup=awesome, except sometimes i use 2 mag stab II's and a exp hardener.
Edriahn Gallente Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2007.11.27 18:04:00 - [20] Originally by: lyrenna 7 low>6 low especialy for fitting magstabs. and for mega trimark rigs, plates damn good gunnerys skills and a bit luck is your friend forget about tanking gank or die!!! if you want to tank hyperion is your best bet. Ofc, but you know hyperion have 8 turret slots, right? That's the catch. It can get the same dmg, even more from neutmega with Ions with more agility, speed and tank. But we are going offtopic... :) Originally by: Iqnius I think I'll be in gangs more then solo. So what would be a good setup for that? What exactly do you have in mind with "gangs". if you are talking for small gangs 7-8 people for example, where you are the damagedealer hyperion would be better. if you meet a sizable gang noone will primary a dualrep hyperion or if they do - it will be their last mistake. Even for pure ganking I think the hyperion will be better. For small fleet ops, where you'll fight on >20km blaster ships just aren't so useful. here the mega starts to shine, especially with 425mms.
Chr0nosX Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.27 18:24:00 - [21] Originally by: Niffetin Edited by: Niffetin on 27/11/2007 07:47:34 Originally by: El Torrent I really don't get it why someone would use anything else then a Plated Neutron Thron. For anything active tank, the Hyperion is superior. But then again Solo BS fights are more or less dead, so I do not really see much of a reason to board it. Neutron thron all the way. What he said. Cookiecutter NeutronMega: 7x Neutron Blaster Cannon II 1x 100mn MWD II 1x Faint Warp Prohibitor 1x Fleeting Web 1x Heavy Elec Cap Booster 2x 1600mm Tungsten 1x EANM II 1x DCU II 3x Mag Stab II 5x Ogre II 3x Trimark Armor Pump Add HG Slave Set, +5% Hardwirings (Large Hybrid/Armor HP, All Turret Damage) and you can do almost 1300 DPS (1270). With max skills ofcourse. I think it should fit with -3% Turret CPU Usage Implant but not sure as I use -5% one myself. If you want to use this without the Implant you have to change the EANM II for Shadow Serp/Amarr Navy or similiar and DCU II for Internal Force Field Array. You need the -5% CPU implant.
Apsa1ar Ex Coelis Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.27 20:03:00 - [22] Edited by: Apsa1ar on 27/11/2007 20:04:35 Edited by: Apsa1ar on 27/11/2007 20:03:31 Originally by: Chr0nosX You need the -5% CPU implant. With an X5 web and internal force field array instead of fleeting and DCU2, respectively, I don't think you need any CPU implants. Should fit with, like, .25 CPU to spare. If you want to go with 2x EANM, 2x MFS instead of the listed 1x EANM, 3x MFS, then you need to do something about the CPU. T1 EANM, implant, whatever. Just another option. EDIT: After reading again, I realize that my post is a bit redundant. Oops.
Diehard Si UK1 Zero	Posted - 2007.11.28 13:52:00 - [23] The guys asked for T1 setups, get off you elitist high horses folks and offer him some proper advice! -------------------------------------- Lets face it, people that use the word 'noob' are blatantly either 12 or with more friends on the internet than in real life!
Loki Farseer	Posted - 2007.11.28 20:52:00 - [24] Highs: 7 x Modal Mega Neutrons (USE FACTION AMMO... It makes a large difference when you add in it's x7 guns, with multiple mag stabs etc). You can go cheaper but the Mega is Kill Quick or be popped. Mids: MWD, Scram, Web, Cap Booster (Should be able to easily fit a Heavy Electrochem with decent skills) Lows (Mix and Match the Plates and Stabs to Fit) Use More Plates if you have a LG or HG Slave Set or if you use Trimark Rigs: 2-3 1600 Rolled Tung Plates 2-3 Mag Stabs (Best Named or Whatever) 1 DCU II (USE THIS!!! Gallente have a TON of Structure and 60% resists can save you) (1-2) EANM (Best Named) 5 x Heavy Drones (Ogre's or Berserker's) Rigs 3 x Trimarks (Again if you use these use 3 Plates) Notes: 1. You will get owned 1v1 vs any competent Mega, Hype, Nos/Neut Domi, Nanophoon, Raven (if it knows it's stuff) or Abaddon (I apologize if I left out a ship but this is the short list and so many others can eat this ship properly flown/fitted).... Fly in gangs no 1v1 you you yet. 2. T1 Mega's do not stand up to T2 or even mostly T1 and some T2 of the above ships. 3. A Mega is generally a Gank or Die ship (barring a repping setup but those have Electrons Guns and alot of different problems of their own.. CAP!). You need close to max skills and T2 Equipment to survive long enough to kill your opponent(s) or survive being called Primary even with a Gang..(Till Trinity then you can watch the Gank Ravens getting called Primary... I can't wait lol). 4. This thing is a big wallowing beast. Get your tacklers to drop you on target or use this to make/break gate camps/station camps. This is not a great setup to go wandering around solo killing things.. 5. Don't get the idea that the Mega is the "Best" PVP BS in eve. Yes the DPS is INSANE and in certain situations this things can be unstoppable/turn the tide of a fight all by itself.. But all it takes is a tracking distruptor or two, an ECM ship jamming you for a couple cycles (Scorp, Black Bird, Rook, Falcon...new damn jammy frigs in Trinity..sheesh), or a Nos/Neut pilot that knows how to manage cap and you are a giant flying brick with a nice buffer of armor waiting to go pop. Hope this helps and get ready to lose some Mega's because people do not go after Mega's or gangs with Mega's in them unless they are very skilled, have a large gank waiting (this one 99% of the time), or are just stupid. Hope for the last type

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