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white kight Caldari Phoenix Division Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.27 15:20:00 - [1] What is going on with the game now, more and more people are smacktalking in local and some of it borders on being virtually racist (name will remain anon for this time). There used to be a time where you could go entire weeks without seeing people smacktalking in local but it is getting worse and worse. IMO, grow up, control your anger and then start playing again so we don't have to put up with needless smacktalk in local. Thanks
N1fty Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.11.27 15:22:00 - [2] Originally by: white kight What is going on with the game now, more and more people are smacktalking in local and some of it borders on being virtually racist (name will remain anon for this time). There used to be a time where you could go entire weeks without seeing people smacktalking in local but it is getting worse and worse. IMO, grow up, control your anger and then start playing again so we don't have to put up with needless smacktalk in local. Thanks Can't you petition people for racist remarks? I think CCP takes a seriously dim view of that sort of thing. ============================================
white kight Caldari Phoenix Division Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.27 15:25:00 - [3] Petition has been sent, waiting for a reply from a GM now though (this could takea while, my alt has been waiting for 3 days for his petition.)
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.11.27 15:26:00 - [4] I think it is an unavoidable result of more people playing. When EVE was happy to see 5,000 people logged in simultaneously there was less room for this. As it grows you get more idiots. Only takes some relative few to bollox up Local. Mostly I ignore Local completely and hardly ever chat in there. If you see someone going too far (e.g. racist comments) by all means petition them. Some rant calling you names because you just blew them up is fine and expected but racism and threats to your IRL person/family and such go too far and I am pretty sure CCP will stomp on them.
Syri Taneka Gallente Decimus Corp FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.11.27 15:29:00 - [5] Local's only reason for existence is to show you who else is in system. Short that, ignore it. I don't give two ****s if corp/alliance mates are profane/racist. -------------------------------------- Bishop Endarr > christ, the church is a massive smack machine
white kight Caldari Phoenix Division Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.27 15:41:00 - [6] Originally by: Syri Taneka I don't give two ****s if corp/alliance mates are profane/racist. Bet you would if someone was being racist to you. I am just fed up of people calling people every name under the sun. If you can't take losing your ship, do not PvP simple as that. And then there are the people that do it just for the hell of it. They annoy me the most. (rant should be over now)
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.11.27 15:44:00 - [7] Originally by: white kight Originally by: Syri Taneka I don't give two **s if corp/alliance mates are profane/racist. Bet you would if someone was being racist to you. I am just fed up of people calling people every name under the sun. If you can't take losing your ship, do not PvP simple as that. And then there are the people that do it just for the hell of it. They annoy me the most. (rant should be over now) If it is racism in your own corp then I think the appropriate actions would be: 1) Tell your corpmate to can it. 2) Bring your issues to your corp/alliance leadership. I think most corp/alliance leaders would take a dim view of this as well unless the whole thing was founded as a racist group (even then they have to know CCP may get after them so it is not in their best interests to willfully ** them off). 3) Petition to CCP and/or leave the corp.
sg3s Caldari O.W.N. Corp FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.27 15:48:00 - [8] Now here is the real question? Who is making a problem here? The people making the racist comments (and saying it like this already places it as something "bad"), or the ones taking offence from it? Seriously rasist comments only give me a laugh as it shows how ignorant and dumb people can be as they can't possibly know if I am american, european, black, white, whatever, unless I tell them at wich point you already gone wrong and should expect some level of insults, even then, care.
Caligulus Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.11.27 16:18:00 - [9] Originally by: sg3s Now here is the real question? Who is making a problem here? The people making the racist comments (and saying it like this already places it as something "bad"), or the ones taking offence from it? Seriously rasist comments only give me a laugh as it shows how ignorant and dumb people can be as they can't possibly know if I am american, european, black, white, whatever, unless I tell them at wich point you already gone wrong and should expect some level of insults, even then, care. It's the people making the racist, sexist, homophobic and bigoted comments that are the problem. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of the player base resides in countries that have laws against this kind of harassing behavior. That aside, disgusting behavior like that is against the eve CoC and is punishable. Petition it whenever you see it. ------------------------------------------------- ** Name ONE thing that your windows comp can do that my MAC cant ** Right click.
Maltitol Gallente Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.27 16:27:00 - [10] Originally by: white kight Petition has been sent, waiting for a reply from a GM now though (this could takea while, my alt has been waiting for 3 days for his petition.) if you filed it under harrasment, its pretty quick.. i usually get 2 minute responses to those. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Well boohoo.
Exuscon Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.27 16:44:00 - [11] Edited by: Exuscon on 27/11/2007 16:44:54 Originally by: N1fty Originally by: white kight What is going on with the game now, more and more people are smacktalking in local and some of it borders on being virtually racist (name will remain anon for this time). There used to be a time where you could go entire weeks without seeing people smacktalking in local but it is getting worse and worse. IMO, grow up, control your anger and then start playing again so we don't have to put up with needless smacktalk in local. Thanks Can't you petition people for racist remarks? I think CCP takes a seriously dim view of that sort of thing. From past experience CCP really does not handle these TOS violation well. They go unchecked,unwarned and undealt with. I have reported many with screenies and nothing was done. "Save the tree! Wipe your arse with an owl instead."
Maximillian Dragonard	Posted - 2007.11.27 16:49:00 - [12] Not trying to derail this in any way, but imo people today have too thin skinned.. Are there people that go over the top? Sure, ingame and out.. if it's over the top, then it deserves action. Are there people that are sensitive to the point of absurdity, yeap... but don't point that out to them or you're being an insensitive bastard.. /sigh Candyland is going to be the death of us all.. ____________________ EWAR... love it or hate it.... learn to deal with it!
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.11.27 17:00:00 - [13] Originally by: Maximillian Dragonard Not trying to derail this in any way, but imo people today have too thin skinned.. Are there people that go over the top? Sure, ingame and out.. if it's over the top, then it deserves action. Are there people that are sensitive to the point of absurdity, yeap... but don't point that out to them or you're being an insensitive bastard.. /sigh Candyland is going to be the death of us all.. There are many ways to express your displeasure with someone and insult them without resorting to racial slurs (or other bigoted comments). There is no need or call for them in the game. Where is the line drawn or are you suggesting there should be no line drawn for this sort of thing? I bet if I knew you well enough I could say something to offend you. Or imagine you are black or jewish or pick your group and someone in your corp was regularly making derogatory remarks. Thick skinned or not you would happily put up with that? Sooner or later I bet they'd annoy you. You pay to play too and should expect a minimum level of civilized behavior from those you play with.
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Fnck the blob.	Posted - 2007.11.27 17:01:00 - [14] Sit tight guys the wambulance is on its way, just hold on.
Maximillian Dragonard	Posted - 2007.11.27 17:07:00 - [15] Edited by: Maximillian Dragonard on 27/11/2007 17:08:05 Originally by: Imperator Jora'h There are many ways to express your displeasure with someone and insult them without resorting to racial slurs (or other bigoted comments). There is no need or call for them in the game. Where is the line drawn or are you suggesting there should be no line drawn for this sort of thing? I bet if I knew you well enough I could say something to offend you. Or imagine you are black or jewish or pick your group and someone in your corp was regularly making derogatory remarks. Thick skinned or not you would happily put up with that? Sooner or later I bet they'd annoy you. You pay to play too and should expect a minimum level of civilized behavior from those you play with.[/quote Note I didn't say that there weren't cases where racial slurs or bigoted comments didn't occur, I merely pointed out that anyone can deem anything offensive regardless, and that is part of the overall problem. (problem being petition response times for example) I've literally known people that filed petitions for getting smacktalked for being a noob.. cry me a freaking river.. grow up and realize that you're not living in a bubble. (not an attack on you but stated in relation to the preceeding example) ____________________ EWAR... love it or hate it.... learn to deal with it!
Syri Taneka Gallente Decimus Corp FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.11.27 17:09:00 - [16] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Originally by: white kight Originally by: Syri Taneka I don't give two **s if corp/alliance mates are profane/racist. Bet you would if someone was being racist to you. I am just fed up of people calling people every name under the sun. If you can't take losing your ship, do not PvP simple as that. And then there are the people that do it just for the hell of it. They annoy me the most. (rant should be over now) If it is racism in your own corp then I think the appropriate actions would be: 1) Tell your corpmate to can it. 2) Bring your issues to your corp/alliance leadership. I think most corp/alliance leaders would take a dim view of this as well unless the whole thing was founded as a racist group (even then they have to know CCP may get after them so it is not in their best interests to willfully ** them off). 3) Petition to CCP and/or leave the corp. Woah, I'm not saying it happens, I'm saying unless it was well and truly mean-spirited, I wouldn't care. The way my friends and I operate, calling each other names is perfectly normal =P -------------------------------------- Bishop Endarr > christ, the church is a massive smack machine
Mo Cuishla	Posted - 2007.11.27 17:18:00 - [17] Find out where they live and beat them with binlids. It works for me. Kisses. Mo
James Swindle Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.11.27 17:25:00 - [18] Smacktalk is cool!
Savant Hayt Minmatar The Reich	Posted - 2007.11.27 17:53:00 - [19] Edited by: Savant Hayt on 27/11/2007 17:54:08 /me writes white knight a prescription for a pair of balls and 100cc's of beef jerky so hopefully he'll man up. It's a game, if somebody isn't threatening to come to your house and blow your head off, just laugh for once, damn people.
Notmad Max	Posted - 2007.11.27 18:03:00 - [20] Originally by: white kight What is going on with the game now, more and more people are smacktalking in local and some of it borders on being virtually racist (name will remain anon for this time). There used to be a time where you could go entire weeks without seeing people smacktalking in local but it is getting worse and worse. IMO, grow up, control your anger and then start playing again so we don't have to put up with needless smacktalk in local. Thanks Maybe, you are being smacktalked in local because people don't like you. Maybe it's because bruce are so publically, pompously self-congratulatory about their general behaviour and achievements (HAHA) in game, that it attracts smacktalkers. Hypothetically speaking: If you, as an alliance, stopped telling everyone how great you are, from public announcements to private chats, in spite of your total lack of achievement, then probably no one would bother to tell you that you suck balls. The above is just a theory and does not in any sense represent my own opinion or the opinion of my alt or my cat or the alliance I'm not in.
Notmad Max	Posted - 2007.11.27 18:06:00 - [21] Edited by: Notmad Max on 27/11/2007 18:06:36 Originally by: Caligulus Originally by: sg3s Now here is the real question? Who is making a problem here? The people making the racist comments (and saying it like this already places it as something "bad"), or the ones taking offence from it? Seriously rasist comments only give me a laugh as it shows how ignorant and dumb people can be as they can't possibly know if I am american, european, black, white, whatever, unless I tell them at wich point you already gone wrong and should expect some level of insults, even then, care. It's the people making the racist, sexist, homophobic and bigoted comments that are the problem. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of the player base resides in countries that have laws against this kind of harassing behavior. That aside, disgusting behavior like that is against the eve CoC and is punishable. Petition it whenever you see it. On the contrary most countries have laws to protect the fact that you can say what you believe. Basically you are idiots if you allow yourself to be offended by internet chatter. Take responsibility for yourself, don't expect the rest of the world to adhere to arbitrarily laws so you can live in a little bubble.
Leroy Payne	Posted - 2007.11.27 18:08:00 - [22] Originally by: Savant Hayt Edited by: Savant Hayt on 27/11/2007 17:54:08 /me writes white knight a prescription for a pair of balls and 100cc's of beef jerky so hopefully he'll man up. It's a game, if somebody isn't threatening to come to your house and blow your head off, just laugh for once, damn people. Dude but someone said a nasty word this is SERIUS!!!!! lets call the police if ccp doesnt do anything. Or maybe the court of european law. OUOR INTERNET RIGHTS ARE BEING TRAMPLED ON BY SMACKTALKERS ARRRRRGHHH. Seriously now OP. Grow the **** up.
Anytime Baby	Posted - 2007.11.27 18:19:00 - [23] I think "smack" is just an illustration of some flawed game mechanics: -local channels -ease of sitting in a station and twiddling your thumbs I am pretty certain the OP was unable to kill his smack assailent; had he been able to, there wouldn't be a thread on it. If engagements were easier to start and people actually had to take risks and worry about their survival in EVE, I believe strongly that smack talk would be reduced.
MrTripps Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.27 18:19:00 - [24] Edited by: MrTripps on 27/11/2007 18:19:32 Originally by: white kight borders on being virtually racist Is that like bordering on being virtually pregnant? Either they were and need to be kicked or they weren't and you are whining. Really, the best thing to do with smack in local is to ignore it. They do it to get a rise out of you and it is working. Certainty of death...small chance of success...what are we waiting for? - Gimli
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.27 19:07:00 - [25] Originally by: white kight What is going on with the game now, more and more people are smacktalking in local and some of it borders on being virtually racist (name will remain anon for this time). There used to be a time where you could go entire weeks without seeing people smacktalking in local but it is getting worse and worse. IMO, grow up, control your anger and then start playing again so we don't have to put up with needless smacktalk in local. Thanks There's smack and there's smack. Crude racist abuse, yeah, GTFO. A little pointed banter between opposing sides... CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.11.27 19:23:00 - [26] Exactly. Some smack is acceptable, and enjoyable even, but some smack is not. Not all smack is created equal, and I think the best smacktalkers know where the dividing line is, and know not to cross it. --- Join BH-DL Skills
Gort Storm Guard Elite	Posted - 2007.11.27 19:44:00 - [27] block = priceless Use it often, use it proudly. :) Regards, Gorty -- When in doubt, empty the magazine.

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