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Aeyar Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.29 14:58:00 - [31] i like the new models personally, they all look great... the skins on some of them are a bit weird though, esspecially some gallentean ones have kinda strange colors (the light blue on t1, odd green on ships like deimos). nothing i would suffer much from as i dont mainly fly gallente, but still odd. i also dont like the red absolution, but most i talked to seem to love it. there will always be people who like black better than gold, gold or silver than red or whatever... i guess ccp cant make it right for everyone. a choice of selected color themes for the different races ships would be awesome imo (not for each ship, but maybe one for t1 and t2 or per ship class if the artists are that bored, lol). just to make everyone happy maybe? ^^ and to all those that complain about bad texture quality and stuff: did you guys check your graphics driver settings? those usually are primaried over the ingame settings. if you want best quality set mip mapping to quality instead of performance settings, use higher anisotrophic filtering. that should solve those issues i in most cases i think. else file a bug report like Mephysto suggests with a dxdiag logfile. could always be shader problems or something on some of the gpu's that need to be adressed. overall i think ccp has done a great job, i love the new engine and models so far. esspeically all the stations look amazing.
Cyberus Caldari Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.29 15:54:00 - [32] Originally by: Feng Schui thats all the settings i have as well. To the Graphics team: Kick ******* ass job guys. Yall rock! To the "Whiners": If the graphics look horrid to you, or they don't look like the good screenshots you've seen, don't tell us or CCP that the graphics are "horrible" and that a "5 year old could do better". if the graphics look like crap on your machine, but they look kick ass on my machine, and look kick ass in the trailer.. guess who needs to be blamed? Just to ask you something if you are so smart ass and blame us whiners: Do the new grafics on that mashine supose look bad? Asus p5w DH deluxe mobo E6600 cpu 2 gig DDR2 dual chanel 667 ram 500 gig raid 0 RADEONÖ X1900 XT core (625MHz) 512MB GDDR3 onboard memory (1450MHz) 48 pixel shader processors 256-bit Memory Bus PCI Express x16 Pixel Shader Version 3.0 Video Acceleration of: MPEG-2, MPEG-4, DivX, WMV9, VC-1, and H.264 I beleave i know the answere already. + i gonna tell you this: I did not said that models are carp did i? They looks prety cool tbh but the problem was that its all looks not sharp like i said models seems like watrecolour pain what got wet in the rain and all sharp lines did desapere and become one cloudy grey "something". You also said we need oly to blame us self? well explaine me this then plz. After i did look at this bad grafics for 2 days on my main caracter i just did log in my alt to look at other model on ship what my main cant fly and got realy confused because everething was sharp on this account.... WTF!!!! i did log my main back again and ohhh yeah baby the bad grafics did desapere.. WTH!!! So the most interesting part is that i have change completely nothing not at EVE settings and not at my GC driver settings and thats why i belave the problem was not from my side thats for sure. About " 5 year old child do better" i belave that you realy need to reread my post before you advance ppl because i did said that grafics on my mashine ( so what i see on screen) looks like its pained by 5 year old child and not that the models that made by ccp looks like crap.
Sleepkevert	Posted - 2007.11.29 16:08:00 - [33] Go to settings, and set the shadows to high, enable HDR, and put bloom on high / low to whatever you prefer (note that this isn't quality, but the amount of bloom). On the fuzzy texture note, everything looks bad when you zoom in, especialy the old client. The new client has 5 times more resolution on ships then the old one. Every game looks bad as long as you zoom in enough... Andah, please, for the love of god, don't try to spell everything like you are a five year old, it's hard to read and makes you look stupid... _______ Sign my sig!
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration	Posted - 2007.11.29 17:56:00 - [34] Originally by: Lord TYMAN Very sorry guys, cba to trawl through all 15 pages, but will my Asus Ati AX800 Pro gfx card support the new graphics? (1gb corsair ram / amd 3400+ ) Cheers. Nope, sorry. The X800 is Shader Model 2. -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth
Gordon Red SteelVipers YouWhat	Posted - 2007.11.29 19:55:00 - [35] Edited by: Gordon Red on 29/11/2007 19:57:40 Behold the mighty Crusader Crusader1 Crusader2 ps: my screens
Hawk Fireblade	Posted - 2007.11.30 00:54:00 - [36] Patch Failed Verification Try again. Just one prob there doesn't seem to be any way to try again even delting all app data in Vista and unistalling and reinstalling the client fresh doesn't do it. :( So how in hell do you get the client to redownload the content patch instead of rehasing the duff file?
Lithalnas Amarr Headcrabs	Posted - 2007.11.30 01:59:00 - [37] can we bug holes, missing textures, offset textures and whatnot? ------------- fixed for greater eve content
Abyss Wyrm Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.30 05:29:00 - [38] Well ok First it do nothing at all then i pressed at "Click here to start download" After few more patches it was finaly start dowload new graphic content. But After finished download its simply do nothing then i pressed "Click here to install new content" Neither i was able to find to there it dowload new graphic patch :P Can you bring manual download please?
Abyss Wyrm Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.30 05:39:00 - [39] Lastly After last patch its do nothing again on asking to download :P
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.11.30 05:40:00 - [40] Edited by: Plutoinum on 30/11/2007 05:41:18 New Minmatar theme: Stabber next to Minmatar Stargate Stabber under Minmatar Stargate (hdr with low blur)
BRooDJeRo Insane Rocketeers Exa Nation	Posted - 2007.11.30 05:59:00 - [41] Originally by: Hawk Fireblade Patch Failed Verification Try again. Just one prob there doesn't seem to be any way to try again even delting all app data in Vista and unistalling and reinstalling the client fresh doesn't do it. :( So how in hell do you get the client to redownload the content patch instead of rehasing the duff file? Same thing here. Im running Vista x64 Ultimate. I also couldnt find any downloaded file or files, sweeping and rubbing the registery also didnt do anything good.
Abyss Wyrm Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.30 07:58:00 - [42] Ok, now again 1)I complitely delete all eve clients, delete cache, delete every entries about eve in regedit 2)Installed EVE again from 36191 build, patched it current version (main TQ client work fine from this point) 3)Copied folder with EVE, dowload TQ-to-sisi patch, applied it to new forder (it was F:\EVE-sisi for me) 4)Created shortcut for eve.exe from eve-sisi folder, and add /end /LUA:OFF there, so its was looked like F:\EVE-sisi\eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF After started it first time client wasnt even said anything about new content, only mention about not to use HDR with AA. No dowload link was present. Though there was dowload button in display config menu. It wasnt do anything though on clicking it. After i said to clear all cache for sisi-client and it was restarted, it bring link about download. But again, it simply wont do anything Here how it looks liked http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8043/bugg1za6.jpg and http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4565/bugg2ze4.jpg You can try all the day clicking on "here" or "download". It won't even say about error or something, it will do complitely nothing(( So pleeeeeeeeaaaaasee, bring a manual patch for premium content!!
Hephaesteus Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.30 09:18:00 - [43] Originally by: Abyss Wyrm So pleeeeeeeeaaaaasee, bring a manual patch for premium content!! 100% agree. The first time I downloaded the premium content it failed to patch and had to start again. Not a problem for me as I never get near my download limit, but for others it might be a different story.
Xtro 2 Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics SOUL CARTEL	Posted - 2007.11.30 10:14:00 - [44] Edited by: Xtro 2 on 30/11/2007 10:20:09 running vista x64 here, i see the option ingame to start the download for the new gfx, clicking it does nothing however so i still have the old gfx. any clues? all i see is Screenie Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman. Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder.
Ridickulo Minmatar Tiger-Shrimp	Posted - 2007.11.30 11:17:00 - [45] Edited by: Ri**ulo on 30/11/2007 11:20:48 Someone posted this link for manual DL on another thread. Havent tried it myself but will after DT as i'm experiencing the same problems. Classic v44568 to premium conversion patch (860mb)
ClawHammer III Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.30 11:58:00 - [46] Originally by: Ri**ulo Edited by: Ri**ulo on 30/11/2007 11:20:48 Someone posted this link for manual DL on another thread. Havent tried it myself but will after DT as i'm experiencing the same problems. Classic v44568 to premium conversion patch (860mb) Thank you very much for that link. I've been having problems downloading the premium patch as well. I just submitted a bug report on it.
Xtro 2 Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics SOUL CARTEL	Posted - 2007.11.30 11:59:00 - [47] giving that a shot, cheers. Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman. Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder.
H0LDER	Posted - 2007.11.30 13:28:00 - [48] Hi Sorry if this has already bin said, but, when the new patch comes into play, are we able to revert to the old graphics if some of our systems can't handle the new ones better than others? A few people I have spoken to have tryed the test server to have a look at the new graphs but there systems can't use them so they never download them. Cheers
Nazgul9	Posted - 2007.11.30 13:38:00 - [49] Hi Cannot DL new content get this message I am patched to lates build, as I can get onto the test server There was a error starting the content upgrade download. clientVersion. Any help?
Argus Sorn	Posted - 2007.11.30 14:49:00 - [50] I am getting the same clientversion error. Help, want to see graphics.... must... reach... graphics..... engine.... Argus
Der Ewige Cataclysm Enterprises Kraftwerk.	Posted - 2007.11.30 16:46:00 - [51] Edited by: Der Ewige on 30/11/2007 16:46:06 Originally by: Muscaat Any possibility of a non-BITS download so we can see if this works through Wine? http://ccp.vo.llnwd.net/o2/test/eveclassictopremiumpatch44637_test.exe ------- http://www.stillbruch.ch
Aeyar Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.30 16:51:00 - [52] Originally by: H0LDER Hi Sorry if this has already bin said, but, when the new patch comes into play, are we able to revert to the old graphics if some of our systems can't handle the new ones better than others? A few people I have spoken to have tryed the test server to have a look at the new graphs but there systems can't use them so they never download them. Cheers afaik you can just switch to old models again if you dont like the new ones or simply cant use em with any good performance. there is an option in the settings "enable premium content"
Hawk Fireblade	Posted - 2007.11.30 16:52:00 - [53] Edited by: Hawk Fireblade on 30/11/2007 16:55:23 Latest build did the trick for me installed fine. Though TBH I'm somewhat bemused why this isn't included in the Standard client considering basically it's all DX9, everyone and his grannie should be running a DX9 capable card now. I was expecting the standard client to be DX9 graphics and the Premium DX10, but then I've been away awhile. Over yes they are better however in many instances no better than DX9 graphics in other games that have been about for sometime now and in many cases worse, and in alot of cases just don't have the polish they could or I think should have. Many of the models look like the designers have spent too much time trying to keep the feel of older models rather than blowing our socks off with something new and keeping a little of the old there, for instance alot of the caldari ships still look like black blocks stuck together, where the addition of custom decals or customs skins could do a awful lot. Yes I'm a G8800 user on a high end system running Vista, and I do appreciate that not everyones as lucky as myself but still I find myself asking the question if say DX9 has around another 18mths to 2 years lifespan left in the beast being relistic why spend so much to delevope for something that's already on it's way out over developing for DX10 and achieve more longevity, as looking back over eve history it's not something that's likely to be repeated anytime soon. It would be nice to see this 'premium' as the standard with custom decals etc for the user and perhaps a bit more polish and adventourous models along with DX10 'Premium' graphics, or perhaps to have kept the existing and the premium being DX10. Yes the lovin is nice although but hasn't gone as far as I'd like personally, I think a poll of users Graphics cards would show some interesting results, I don't think Joe average eve user is as gimped as the developers think they are. :)
Lila Acumen	Posted - 2007.11.30 17:01:00 - [54] Sorry to say although i lvoe the graphics there are some seriouse differebnces betwee nthese and the graphics on the comaprison vid and at FF. The shisp have completely different texutres then what was represented. In the comparioson video look at the celestis then look at it in sisi and the windows are completely different and a much muich lower texture. The same hting for a FF vid which showed deimos bridge windows which are much higher quality then the ones on sisi. I have a 7950gt 2gb of ram and dual core machine with all settings maxed. It is beuiful but not near what was presented to ous i am very disapointed.
Gwennec Filthy Scum	Posted - 2007.11.30 17:31:00 - [55] Behold my new Tech 2 Pod with Big Guns.
Seby Caldari OMICRON HighTech Development	Posted - 2007.11.30 20:34:00 - [56] A few impressions from me: Overall the graphics look good but: I totally agree that some models look like they were not finished and not enough attention was given to them. Dramiel now is very dark and is too simple, i totally prefer the old model. Cynabal on the other hand looks muh more nicer than the old model. I am very disappointed about the fact that amarr navy differs from normal apoc just by a darker yellow. The old model of the amarr navy was way better with that shiny silver it had on it. Cerberus and Gila has only other color compared with T1 version. Nighthawk - nothing impressive but can't complain cause old model was the same. And the list could go on. I have to admit that most models are looking much better than before and that i do like the new graphics BUT i was expecting a lot more and because of this i am really disappointed. I was expecting some breathtaking graphics and models like in the trailers but the work it's definettly not finished cause on some models you knocked me down and others are actually worst than before. Thank god most of them are nicer. Please consider improving some of the models in time, it would be a pitty after all this work not to have what we all expected. ************************************************************** The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!
Def Antares	Posted - 2007.11.30 22:16:00 - [57] Edited by: Def Antares on 30/11/2007 22:18:12 The graphics are quite good. But obviously objects that are barely visible as dots (zoomed far out) still drop the framerate as if it was a really complex scene rendered from near. when undocking in fd-mlj I zoom out so I have every ship on the screen, they are very small and only one to a few pixels are visible my FPS still drop dramatically to like 15, while when nothing is on the screen i have ~50. edit: x1900GT with XP and new drivers
Gallentiel	Posted - 2007.12.01 00:53:00 - [58] Edited by: Gallentiel on 01/12/2007 00:55:42 Question about the \Cache\BIT30.tmp File, is this where the premium files are stored? and I realize you might not be able to answer this, but will copying it to my TQ copy after december 5th be a valid method of pre-loading the premium files? You may want to mention it in a post on patch day if it is going to work or not (free up alot of bandwidth so people don't have to download it twice) Judgement comes from experience; experience comes from from poor judgement.
Allen Ramses Caldari Typo Corp	Posted - 2007.12.01 02:07:00 - [59] I would like to know if there is any way I could enable the DX9 engine without using the gfx card/memory hungry features. I don't care much about hi-poly models, normal/elevation maps, etc. All I really care about is the engine. Just the same old looks but with a half-decent Z buffer and smoother rendering are my highest priorities. Any way to do this? ____________________ Pimped out Raven to run level 4 missions quickly: 210 Mil ISK. Realizing your 120 Mil ISK Drake gets the job done faster: Priceless.
Def Antares	Posted - 2007.12.01 10:37:00 - [60] Originally by: Allen Ramses I would like to know if there is any way I could enable the DX9 engine without using the gfx card/memory hungry features. I don't care much about hi-poly models, normal/elevation maps, etc. All I really care about is the engine. Just the same old looks but with a half-decent Z buffer and smoother rendering are my highest priorities. Any way to do this? yes, dont download the new art content. but it would be great to know whether there's s switch too, i agree

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