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Najenna
Minmatar
The Taining corp
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Posted - 2007.11.29 08:26:00 -
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Edited by: Najenna on 29/11/2007 08:30:30
As stated in the title. I am looking to make a friend in the computer building department. My problem is I would like to build my first computer. I am tired of buying Dells and paying the hefty price for something I can get for half the price if I built it myself.
Someone I can talk to on Teamspeak or even over the phone. I know somethings about computers but not alot. I don't want to follow the philosophy if its expensive its the best. But if there is someone willing to talk to me about what it is I want and answer some stupid questions I might have.
I know I want to go AMD motherboard and would like to go with SLI graphics,atleast 4 gig of ram and 2 150Gb Raptor Hard drives running in Raid 0, and also use Windows Vista. Basically I know I will be dropping anywhere between $1000.00 to $1,500.00 dollars for my first build. I would prefer this build to last me atleast 3-4 years before haveing to upgrade to the next generation of technology comes out. This computer is going to be basically for Eve and maybe BF2,and Need For Speed games. Do I have to go such extreme measures for this as far as money?
So Your Friendship and or opinion is welcome and wantted. Thank you in advanced for you help.  
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Najenna
Minmatar
The Taining corp
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Posted - 2007.11.29 08:26:00 -
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Edited by: Najenna on 29/11/2007 08:30:30
As stated in the title. I am looking to make a friend in the computer building department. My problem is I would like to build my first computer. I am tired of buying Dells and paying the hefty price for something I can get for half the price if I built it myself.
Someone I can talk to on Teamspeak or even over the phone. I know somethings about computers but not alot. I don't want to follow the philosophy if its expensive its the best. But if there is someone willing to talk to me about what it is I want and answer some stupid questions I might have.
I know I want to go AMD motherboard and would like to go with SLI graphics,atleast 4 gig of ram and 2 150Gb Raptor Hard drives running in Raid 0, and also use Windows Vista. Basically I know I will be dropping anywhere between $1000.00 to $1,500.00 dollars for my first build. I would prefer this build to last me atleast 3-4 years before haveing to upgrade to the next generation of technology comes out. This computer is going to be basically for Eve and maybe BF2,and Need For Speed games. Do I have to go such extreme measures for this as far as money?
So Your Friendship and or opinion is welcome and wantted. Thank you in advanced for you help.
Once you get this Robotech thing in your blood its there to stay... |
Dalanoria
Northern Intelligence
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.11.29 08:38:00 -
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go to newegg.com or tiger direct.
Buy everything in bundle, you will save$$$$$...
Think of the future, so think Duel core, and dont over look your mother board, spend some money here.As far as graphics go, Nvida 8800 gtx 786 mb, with 4 gig of ram + duel 2.6 ghz will play games like Crysis with ease..You can pick that up for around 1k$.....
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Najenna
Minmatar
The Taining corp
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Posted - 2007.11.29 09:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Dalanoria
go to newegg.com or tiger direct.
Buy everything in bundle, you will save$$$$$...
Think of the future, so think Duel core, and dont over look your mother board, spend some money here.As far as graphics go, Nvida 8800 gtx 786 mb, with 4 gig of ram + duel 2.6 ghz will play games like Crysis with ease..You can pick that up for around 1k$.....
Yea I was looking at Newegg.com and from what I see thats where I am going to purchase all my stuff from. My issue is will a SLI motherboard work with Eve and if I have read other forums correctly AMD is best for gaming. Right?
I would like to go dual C.P.U. motherboard but is it worth it right now? If not then I am deffinitly want to go with the fastest dual-core Mhz AMD processor.
What I am lacking is knowledge about the Front Sidebus on Motherboards,C.P.U.,Ram. This is why I come to you guys. I need knowledge. I do read forums but I admit reading them gets me confussed cause of all the computer slang people use and I am sitting there in my chair asking myself what in the hell is this person talking about. English Mother****** do you speak it? ( Samuel Jackson Pulp Fiction ) So any and all knowledge or input is most welcomed.
Remember I am a virgin to computer building this is my cherry popper.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Lyrus Associates
Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2007.11.29 10:26:00 -
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Can I suggest the Haynes Manual "Build Your Own Computer"?
I've been using it to build my first computer (will finish today, with a bit of luck). It has a fair bit of detail and since it's a 2007 printing, it's not hopelessly out of date. I've found it really useful.
It gives a fairly understandable explanation of the technicalities, without relying too heavily on them. It even has a couple of step-by-step guides, detailing how to put everything together.
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Dalanoria
Northern Intelligence
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.11.29 10:34:00 -
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Edited by: Dalanoria on 29/11/2007 10:34:58
Building a pc is as easy as putting legos togther, its all plug and play for the most part, seriously......
Make sure to get a case that supports alot of fans too.But as far a duel core goes, 2.6 or 3.3 duel core is awesome since new tech is going GPU rather then CPU.Duel Core tech is pretty amazing, and now that gaming studios are going the GPU rout, think GPU+CPU combined....
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Lyrus Associates
Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2007.11.29 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Dalanoria
Edited by: Dalanoria on 29/11/2007 10:34:58
Building a pc is as easy as putting legos togther
So long as the parts arrive to you in full working order. I'm still paranoid that I'm going to have to send something back. And knowing my luck, it'll be the motherboard which will be a pain to take out again. 
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Najenna
Minmatar
The Taining corp
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Posted - 2007.11.29 13:23:00 -
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Ok here I go. After my last post I went to www.Newegg.com and startted going threw the process and this is what I came up with.
Motherboard - ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition AM2 NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard $174.99
C.P.U. - Athlon 64 X2 6400 Windsor 3.2Ghz 2 x 1 MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor $209.99
Ram - Corsair XMS2 ( 2 x 1GB ) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory $87.00 ( $175.00 for 4 gigs total )
Hard Drive - Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 Rpm 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive $ 169.99
Graphics Card(s) - PNY VCG86GTS5XWB-OC Geforce 8600GTS 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Suppoted Video Card $209.99 x's 2 = $419.98 ( I could get one for now. )
Sound Card - Creative 70SB046A0003 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192Khz PCI Interface Souncd Blaster X-Fi Platinum Fatal1ty Champion Series Card $164.99
Power Supply - SILVERSTONE DA750 ATX12V / EPS12V 750 Power Supply 100 - 240V $189.99
Opersateing System - Microsoft Windows Vista 64-bit Ultimate Edition $179.99
Only things I haven't looked up yet are Monitor,Keyboard,Mouse,Speakers.
I know I need a tower with plenty of cooling power but the prices on newegg for a tower are ****ing outragous. I will be getting a tower from somewhere else and I might be able to drop the power supply. The one I listed was due to the fact I know I will need a SLI ready power supply for when I am running full SLI when I get the second card. So what do you fella's thnk so far or have I gone overboard?
More Suggestion please.
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Asestorian
Domination.
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.11.29 13:53:00 -
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I'm not hugely amazing with computers, but I am building yet another of my own, albeit with a slightly lower budget.
My first suggestion would be to go for an Intel Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Quad, as AMD aren't the gamers choice any more, and haven't been for a while. And my second is to drop SLI and just go for a single, more powerful card. It isn't worth going for 2 lesser cards and sticking them together. Really what you need to be going for is something like an 8800GT or GTX, and if you can afford it stick two of them together instead.
For ú800 (which is something like $1,600, but there is VAT in there and things are more expensive here anyway) I ended up with:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (going to overclock it for sexiness)
Asus P5K-E motherboard (good for overclocking the CPU)
OCZ 2GB PC2-8500 RAM
8800GT
That goes with a 500GB hard drive, a decent enough sound card, a case, a 650W PSU and Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit.
Now, I don't know the exact prices but you could probably get something similar and get 4GB of RAM instead, and maybe upgrade the motherboard to the Deluxe version if you want. Of course, if you insist on going SLI you have to go for an nVidia chipset, which I know little about, although I've heard problems when they are involved with quad core CPUs.
If you aren't going to overclock, it's probably a better idea to just go straight for a more powerful CPU out of the box. In that case you may have to drop back to dual core, depending on what you can find. Most games don't make use of multiple cores anyway, especially not the ones you listed, so you won't get extra performance out of the quad core. I choose it because I like to do too many things at once, and all badly
The Raptors are nice, but I don't know anything about RAID set-ups so I can't give much help there. I'd probably be more tempted to go for a single Raptor with the OS and games on it, then a second hard drive for all my stuff, of which I have a lot.
So yeah. That's my thoughts on the matter.. I'm sure someone will come in here and call me a n00b though 
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Der Komissar
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Posted - 2007.11.29 14:25:00 -
[10]
One does not simply pick friends.
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Najenna
Minmatar
The Taining corp
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Posted - 2007.11.29 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Asestorian
I'm not hugely amazing with computers, but I am building yet another of my own, albeit with a slightly lower budget.
My first suggestion would be to go for an Intel Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Quad, as AMD aren't the gamers choice any more, and haven't been for a while. And my second is to drop SLI and just go for a single, more powerful card. It isn't worth going for 2 lesser cards and sticking them together. Really what you need to be going for is something like an 8800GT or GTX, and if you can afford it stick two of them together instead.
For ú800 (which is something like $1,600, but there is VAT in there and things are more expensive here anyway) I ended up with:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (going to overclock it for sexiness)
Asus P5K-E motherboard (good for overclocking the CPU)
OCZ 2GB PC2-8500 RAM
8800GT
That goes with a 500GB hard drive, a decent enough sound card, a case, a 650W PSU and Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit.
Now, I don't know the exact prices but you could probably get something similar and get 4GB of RAM instead, and maybe upgrade the motherboard to the Deluxe version if you want. Of course, if you insist on going SLI you have to go for an nVidia chipset, which I know little about, although I've heard problems when they are involved with quad core CPUs.
If you aren't going to overclock, it's probably a better idea to just go straight for a more powerful CPU out of the box. In that case you may have to drop back to dual core, depending on what you can find. Most games don't make use of multiple cores anyway, especially not the ones you listed, so you won't get extra performance out of the quad core. I choose it because I like to do too many things at once, and all badly
The Raptors are nice, but I don't know anything about RAID set-ups so I can't give much help there. I'd probably be more tempted to go for a single Raptor with the OS and games on it, then a second hard drive for all my stuff, of which I have a lot.
So yeah. That's my thoughts on the matter.. I'm sure someone will come in here and call me a n00b though
LOL 
Can I call you a noob 1st.? j/k
1'st My motherboard is a deluxe ( You should check the specs out. )
2nd I am a AMD die hard fan ( Live AMD or Die Hard 4.0 was the bomb )
3rd Intel would cost me almost double what I would pay for the new updated version I am about to post and then YOU Tell me that this computer wouldn't smoke a Dell XPS Extreme addition. and 1/3rd the cost.. When I repost the newset for the price its really a deal I feel I will have links to all of them when I repost them. I am home now and haw more time on my hands. ( Working Midnights blows Elephant nuts. )
On that Dell XPS thing seriuosly I wouldn't say smoke it.. more like hang with it pretty darn well..But for a differ a price.. |
Asestorian
Domination.
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.11.29 15:05:00 -
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Wait.. Who said anything about a Dell XPS?
Ok, so you're a diehard AMD fan, fair enough
However, I still insist that you should go for an 8800GT/GTX rather than two 8600's.
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.11.29 19:58:00 -
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After using AMD processors since the days of the mighty 486, I have recently built a C2D machine.
It is amazing. My last build was a 4200+ X2 and this machine doubles, and in some applications, quadruples performance. Of course, the 8800GT helps too.
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Avery Fatwallet
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Posted - 2007.11.29 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Der Komissar
One does not simply pick friends.
children do.
only adults make it complicated.
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Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.11.29 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ryysa on 29/11/2007 20:17:58
Meh, I can kill your fanboyism for AMD pretty fast, if you give me 15 minutes.
AMD currently is simply not really worth it if you are looking for high-end.
And you got a lot of things rather wrong... Raptor's, Vista... sigh :P
Either way... contact on my website, I can help out, if it's within today/tomorrow, as I have a couple of days off.
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.11.29 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ryysa
Edited by: Ryysa on 29/11/2007 20:17:58
Meh, I can kill your fanboyism for AMD pretty fast, if you give me 15 minutes.
AMD currently is simply not really worth it if you are looking for high-end.
And you got a lot of things rather wrong... Raptor's, Vista... sigh :P
Either way... contact on my website, I can help out, if it's within today/tomorrow, as I have a couple of days off.
If WD would come out with a SATA 3.0 Raptor, it would be nice.
I find it hilarious that people consider putting Vista on a "performance" PC. It is like tying your car to a light pole.
XP is faster now and will be even more so with SP3. DX10 is not worth the performance hit. Period.
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Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.11.29 20:51:00 -
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Exactly right.
And raptors are not worth it anymore, they were 2-3 years ago... but it's much smarter these days to invest into flash storage ;)
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Wired
An Eye For An Eye
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.11.29 21:50:00 -
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Heres my opinion.
If you're not doing loads of audio editing you can save some cash on the sound card. In a lot of cases on board is good enough, however if you must have a soundcard, the X-Fi Xtreme gamer will do you.
Also 2x 8600's will be less powerful and more expensive than a single 8800GT (a single card option will also leave you a spare PCI card for a quick upgrade later on).
Do you really need the Raptors in raid? Yes they will run ****-diddly-quick, but saving 4s loading the next level of a game isn't the be all and end all.
Will your system last 3-4 years? Yes, will it be cutting-edge, not by a long shot. I ordered my own new machine last week and there are already bits coming out that will make it obsolete, the trick is to look at whats coming and be sure that your current parts will support it, or that if you do have to upgrade it will be as painless as possible.
Does your mobo support AM2+ (i havent checked), if it doesn't this will rule you out of utilising some of the advanced features that AMD are introducing, and since they have already talked about releasing AM3...well i'll leave that topic there.
Back to graphics what size is your monitor and what do you game at? If it's 24" or bigger SLI will be worth considering, but if it's smaller SLI will not make so much of a difference. The human eye only picks up 26fps (roughly) so if your computer is throwing out 100fps+ a lot of that is wasted, but granted it will run smoother.
I have just ordered my own machine (based on a C2D) and is as follows, if you swapped the cpu+mobo i'm sure something similar would work for you, unless you plan to do a lot things other than gaming.
And if you get Vista 32 only 3-3.5Gb of RAM will be visible to your OS.
Here's what i have just recently ordered, i hand picked the parts and for ú10 they've saved me the hassle of putting it all together, they will also install my OS and test the lot for me (isn't that nice)
Antec P182
Antec Truepower trio 650W
P35 based intel mobo - switch for AMD
E6750 - Switch for AMD
4Gb Patriot RAM (2x2GB)
Tuniq Tower
8800GT alpha dog
X-Fi Xtreme Gamer
500Gb Samsung spinpoint
DVD-RW (Not huge difference between any of them)
22" Widescreen monitor
Razer gaming peripherals (Mouse +KB + Baracuda HS)
From what you are looking at i think your own spec may be overkill, if you want me to come up with something send me a mail and i'll see what i can come up with, if you give me a budget and say if you just need a case + parts or if you need everything (inc monitor etc). I'll fire something back your way.
I spent 6 months planning on building my machine (while i waited to move into my house), and to design another would be fun.
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Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.11.29 23:18:00 -
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Logitech > Razer
EW Guide - KB Tool - My Music |
Najenna
Minmatar
The Taining corp
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Posted - 2007.11.30 09:11:00 -
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Hey is the setup I think I can live with for a year or 2..
Motherboard
C.P.U.
Ram x's 2
Hard Drive x's 2
Video card(s) x's 2
Monitor
Sound Card
Speakers
Only thing left is I need a Tower with atleast 1000 watt power supply and power supply has to be SLI ready. Also I am researching the operateing system I would like to run. I am not sure if I am going to stick with windows XP or Go Windows Vista.. So after you read the links I have postted and read the specs how do you all feel now about the new toy I will be building.
So what is missing is
Tower
1000 watt SLI ready power supply
Keyboard
Mouse
and a Big enough room for all those speakers..
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.11.30 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Najenna
Hey is the setup I think I can live with for a year or 2..
Motherboard
C.P.U.
Ram x's 2
Hard Drive x's 2
Video card(s) x's 2
Monitor
Sound Card
Speakers
Only thing left is I need a Tower with atleast 1000 watt power supply and power supply has to be SLI ready. Also I am researching the operateing system I would like to run. I am not sure if I am going to stick with windows XP or Go Windows Vista.. So after you read the links I have postted and read the specs how do you all feel now about the new toy I will be building.
So what is missing is
Tower
1000 watt SLI ready power supply
Keyboard
Mouse
and a Big enough room for all those speakers..
Any other thoughts?
I think you are making a mistake sticking to AMD right now. It often pains me to say so, but they are not as good at the moment.
You would have a better setup with a P35 or 680i board, a C2D or quad Core Intel and a single 8800GT.
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Najenna
Minmatar
The Taining corp
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Posted - 2007.11.30 11:11:00 -
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Edited by: Najenna on 30/11/2007 11:13:50
Originally by: Shalia Ripper
I think you are making a mistake sticking to AMD right now. It often pains me to say so, but they are not as good at the moment.
You would have a better setup with a P35 or 680i board, a C2D or quad Core Intel and a single 8800GT.[/quote
Thank you for that advice which I will take into concideration but honestly intel is over priced..From what I have read on the 680i's there are more Cons about them than pro's.
I am looking for a easy good build and AMD delivers Just that. REMEMBER THIS IS MY FIRST computer build so setting BIO's and Overclocking are kinda new things to me.I am studying that " HOW TO BUILD COMPUTERS FOR DUMMIES " book and learning along the way.
But honestly I know AMD WILL make a come back and the board I picked is a AM2+/AM2 so I can upgrade down the road.
Just give AMD Some time But for the bucks I am going to spend I feel this computer is more than I will ever need to run Eve full tilt and also BF2 full tilt
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Samiael
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Posted - 2007.11.30 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Najenna
Edited by: Najenna on 29/11/2007 08:30:30
As stated in the title. I am looking to make a friend in the computer building department. My problem is I would like to build my first computer. I am tired of buying Dells and paying the hefty price for something I can get for half the price if I built it myself.
Someone I can talk to on Teamspeak or even over the phone. I know somethings about computers but not alot. I don't want to follow the philosophy if its expensive its the best. But if there is someone willing to talk to me about what it is I want and answer some stupid questions I might have.
I know I want to go AMD motherboard and would like to go with SLI graphics,atleast 4 gig of ram and 2 150Gb Raptor Hard drives running in Raid 0, and also use Windows Vista. Basically I know I will be dropping anywhere between $1000.00 to $1,500.00 dollars for my first build. I would prefer this build to last me atleast 3-4 years before haveing to upgrade to the next generation of technology comes out. This computer is going to be basically for Eve and maybe BF2,and Need For Speed games. Do I have to go such extreme measures for this as far as money?
So Your Friendship and or opinion is welcome and wantted. Thank you in advanced for you help.
So basically you want to befriend someone because of their computer skills?? Obviously thinking less of them in "some" way by referring to them as a nerd (which Im sure you will imply was meant as a complement)..... solely so you can get free advice on how to build a custom box???? Because it doesnt appear your friendship would be related to you liking them as a person (because you obviously dont consider yourself a "nerd"..).
Im going to go out on a limb here.. you're a woman?
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.11.30 20:31:00 -
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Friends help friends buy C2D processors.
Ok, I said my piece, if you are hell bent on going slow, just move out of the fast lane so I can pass you on the left.
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Zeonos
Amarr
Fairtrade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.11.30 20:53:00 -
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intel core 2 due for cpu is the right choice. and for ram. Windows xp and vista only support 3gb, unless you get the 64bit edition, if you do get 64bit edition you might get trouble with drivers, games and programs. 2GB ram is fine for any computer today, just get some of the quicker. like Corsair or Kingston gaming ram. a build that last 3-4 years might be hard, things are moving fast for computers. bf2. eve and need for speed wont have problems on most rigs you can build for that money, heck even my old rig can run all of them, and thats 4 years old...
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Rialtor
Amarr
Yarrrateers
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Posted - 2007.11.30 20:59:00 -
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I wouldn't buy AMD currently, as the Core 2 is the better choice. Out of brand loyalty and supporting competition I bought an AMD recently, but I advise everyone that the Core 2 is the superior chip right now. If you'd like to buy AMD wait till their next lines come out and compare them to the Core 2.
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sugark
Blackguard Brigade
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.30 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Samiael
Im going to go out on a limb here.. you're a woman?
While I do agree with the overall sentiment of your post, I also take offence to this last sentence here.
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Samiael
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Posted - 2007.11.30 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: sugark
Originally by: Samiael
Im going to go out on a limb here.. you're a woman?
While I do agree with the overall sentiment of your post, I also take offence to this last sentence here.
Ok lets get something straight. You and I BOTH KNOW no man would EVER say something like that.
Ya it sounds sexist.. but its a simple truth.
A guy would just write a post saying "hey computer nerds, Im gonna build a PC and need your help"
There would be no pretense to friendship... and the nerds wouldnt be offended.. they would appreciate the request for their knowledge. Its quite simple.
Frankly, you women should be P|SSED.. because its women like that who just complete the stereotype and make meatheads like me look right even more frequently.
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Avery Fatwallet
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Posted - 2007.11.30 21:42:00 -
[29]
i like where this is going 
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sugark
Blackguard Brigade
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.30 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Samiael
A guy would just write a post saying "hey computer nerds, Im gonna build a PC and need your help"
Yah, you¦re probably right - but so would I. But then again - you never said all women would say something like that. So meh.
Originally by: Samiael
Frankly, you women should be P|SSED.. because its women like that who just complete the stereotype and make meatheads like me look right even more frequently.
mmh...****ed is maybe the wrong word for what I think but I get your drift and am inclined to agree. However, I¦m in the process of derailing a thread that I should probably have stayed out of in the first place. So...*does the disappearing trick*
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Rialtor
Amarr
Yarrrateers
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Posted - 2007.11.30 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: sugark
Originally by: Samiael
A guy would just write a post saying "hey computer nerds, Im gonna build a PC and need your help"
Yah, you¦re probably right - but so would I. But then again - you never said all women would say something like that. So meh.
Originally by: Samiael
Frankly, you women should be P|SSED.. because its women like that who just complete the stereotype and make meatheads like me look right even more frequently.
mmh...****ed is maybe the wrong word for what I think but I get your drift and am inclined to agree. However, I¦m in the process of derailing a thread that I should probably have stayed out of in the first place. So...*does the disappearing trick*
Awww, come back I was liking where that was going too :).
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Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.01 02:15:00 -
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Also regarding the OP.
I wonder where you got the idea of "Intel is overpriced".
Intel currently delivers more bang for the buck (due to overclockability) than AMD. So that statement is a flat out lie. Just fyi.
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari
Eye of God
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Posted - 2007.12.01 02:37:00 -
[33]
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Can I suggest the Haynes Manual "Build Your Own Computer"?
I've been using it to build my first computer (will finish today, with a bit of luck). It has a fair bit of detail and since it's a 2007 printing, it's not hopelessly out of date. I've found it really useful.
It gives a fairly understandable explanation of the technicalities, without relying too heavily on them. It even has a couple of step-by-step guides, detailing how to put everything together.
How recent is it? |
Ademaro Imre
Caldari
Eye of God
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Posted - 2007.12.01 02:39:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Ryysa
Also regarding the OP.
I wonder where you got the idea of "Intel is overpriced".
Intel currently delivers more bang for the buck (due to overclockability) than AMD. So that statement is a flat out lie. Just fyi.
But is overclocking safe? Long ago - it was something I would never touch because things could get broken rather easily. |
Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.01 03:05:00 -
[35]
Edited by: Ryysa on 01/12/2007 03:07:42
lol...
You know, going outside your house is unsafe, if you have issues.
I just OC'ed a Core2Duo recently. It was an E6750, and it went from 2.66 Ghz to 3.6 Ghz with stock cooling, stably.
Running temperature under full load on both cores is 65C, which is well within Intel's thermal spec.
Honestly, if you have any idea about physics and the relation of heat/power consumption, then you will understand what and how.
Lastly, OCing is perfectly safe, if you know what you are doing, just as it is safe to go over the street without being ran over, if you know to look both ways.
Edit: The first CPU I OC'ed was a P2 350mhz to 466mhz, it was a Slot 1 CPU, about 9-10 years ago. I have also never fried a single CPU OC-ing it. My current AMD 3000+ is running for 2 years at 30% higher clockspeed (1.8ghz at 2.54ghz) on stock cooling.
Draw your own conclusions.
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Najenna
Minmatar
The Taining corp
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Posted - 2007.12.01 11:37:00 -
[36]
1st I am a Motor head
2nd I am a guy
3rd I like making friends be it if they are a nerd,jock,motorhead,Greese monkey,ect...
4th If what I have said has offended anyone by calling them a nerd then I do apologise.
5th I drank it last night
6th The prices I have seen for intel cpu and motherboards are quite expensive. I.M.H.O.
7th My girl friend plays Eve.
8th I smoked that already too..
9th I can play Eve, BF2, Need for speed on my rig now but it is showing its age if you know what I mean.
Lastly If what I have postted you feel is a crappy computer then you post me a good computer I can build for the same price or cheaper
Everything I have looked at for Intel either cause of mebeing blind or being computer dumb I just didnt like what I saw. Maybe I was looking at the wrong boards or cpu's but honestly I wasn't trying to debate here I am looking for kind words and input. So please if you would be so kind point in the direction ( Links to motherboards,cpu ect ect) so I can look at them. Thanks again have a great pew pew pew weekend
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Ryysa
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.01 12:46:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Ryysa on 01/12/2007 12:47:00
Originally by: Najenna
Everything I have looked at for Intel either cause of mebeing blind or being computer dumb
This.
Core 2 Duo E6750,
P35 Mobo like the Gigabyte GA-P35,
8800 GT graphics card,
2gb 800mhz ram,
2x 400gb drives (Seagate/Samsung) in RAID0,
Decent 500W PSU.
As for links, don't be lazy as hell and google everything I just wrote.
You're also awfully thick, you came and asked for advice, you were told that AMD is a bad idea right now and that performance/$$$ wise Intel is better.
You still keep going on and on and on about AMD. Why did you ask advice in the first place again?
This should cost you around 550-600 pounds if you buy from decent sources.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Lyrus Associates
Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2007.12.01 15:27:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Ademaro Imre
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Can I suggest the Haynes Manual "Build Your Own Computer"?
I've been using it to build my first computer (will finish today, with a bit of luck). It has a fair bit of detail and since it's a 2007 printing, it's not hopelessly out of date. I've found it really useful.
It gives a fairly understandable explanation of the technicalities, without relying too heavily on them. It even has a couple of step-by-step guides, detailing how to put everything together.
How recent is it?
2007 (like i said in my post). It doesn't say which month it was published. The examples given in the book suggest it's actually fairly recent - for example, it knows about SLI and crossfire.
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