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Vested Interest	Posted - 2008.02.16 00:37:00 - [301] Originally by: Ambo This should be posible... *** WARNING: I highly recommend you make a copy of your database somewhere safe before you do this... *** You would have to create copies of the EMMA folder (each containing it's own exe, data folder, etc). You should then be able to startup each exe as a separate program, each using it's own database and settings xml file. Note that some settings (report styles, contract settings, etc) will be shared between all the different instances but the essential information should be separate. If you don't beat me to it, I'll give this a go when I get home later and let you know how it goes. Ok that's what I wanted to hear. Not having a lot of familiarity with SQL Server Express I wasn't sure if launching another instance of EMMA would play nice with whatever tables are already loaded by the first instance.
Shinzu	Posted - 2008.02.16 06:36:00 - [302] I stated earlier that i have vista 64 ultimate and have the program working no bugs no problems if you have questions on how i did it contact me in game or reply here i will see if i can help out.
Ambo 2nd Outcasters	Posted - 2008.02.16 09:18:00 - [303] Originally by: Sojii Ren Hi, I have some suggestions to make EMMA better: - When you create a Item Report and you bought the items before the starting date of the report it doens't have a buy price so the reports give very high margins. Maybe you could make it search back untill it finds the last buy price. Or add an option to add default buy price like in the Items Traded window. This is actually how it should work and somtimes it works correctly, the last buy price found is not displayed on the report since it is not in range but it is used to calculate profits, etc. However, I have noticed that this somtimes works and somtimes dosn't. I'll add it to the bugs list. Quote: - In Item reports, fee's aren't deducted from the profit. It would be nice if you could somewhere set your % broker fee and % transaction fee, maybe even add the broker fee bonus per stations from standing. The transaction and broker fees are more tricky to add than I thought. It is somthing I'm working on though. Quote: - Everytime you create a report you have to select the settings (like start date). If it would remember the last settings used that would be great. Added to the list. Quote: - Don't know if this is possible but maybe add the function to load your current market orders and make a item-report-style report for all the orders. That way you can see how much all orders are worth. This is somthing I'm already aiming to do. Quote: - Also maybe create 5 buttons for the 5 different reports so you don't have to go into the dropdown menu's. Thanks for the app it's super Trouble is, with buttons, where would I put the information text about each report? I think I'll leave it as a dropdown for now but I'll think about how I could streamline it for experienced users. Thanks for the suggestions. -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA
Ambo 2nd Outcasters	Posted - 2008.02.16 09:21:00 - [304] Originally by: Deez Onit BUG REPORT: When I go to Add Item I have configured it to update even if I sold 1 item but some items just dont show up... or they show up with no prices even though I've sold them... I have to manually add a zealot everytime i do an item report to see my profits even though I know for a fact that I've sold it. If I add it then auto add it also deletes it... Quite annoying. This is somthing that's on my bug list already, hopefully will get it fixed soon. Originally by: Shinzu I stated earlier that i have vista 64 ultimate and have the program working no bugs no problems if you have questions on how i did it contact me in game or reply here i will see if i can help out. Nice, I assume you had to do some fiddling to get it working then? -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA
LaVista Vista Conservative Shenanigans Party	Posted - 2008.02.16 09:51:00 - [305] I lub EMMA long time.
Louis Trenker	Posted - 2008.02.16 16:42:00 - [306] Nice Tool, thx!
Quarios Cha	Posted - 2008.02.16 20:16:00 - [307] The Download is down as it appears :-(
ILove Jam	Posted - 2008.02.16 22:24:00 - [308] Vista x64 here too, working smoothly
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.02.18 16:26:00 - [309] Not sure exactly what is going on, but whenever I update my transactions EMMA freezes on me now. It completes all steps of the process, gives me the "Updated X Transactions" "OK" button, then if I try to do anything my cursor turns into an hourglass. I have to generally crash EMMA then restart it, update the other 3 things, then it works. So the updates all work... it's just the first one crashes the program when complete, rather odd and a bit scary. I really think it may be because I have such a large database though I can't be sure. Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Ambo 2nd Outcasters	Posted - 2008.02.19 08:37:00 - [310] Originally by: Quarios Cha The Download is down as it appears :-( Seems fine to me, which one are you trying to download? (i.e. what's the URL you are using?) Originally by: Shadarle Not sure exactly what is going on, but whenever I update my transactions EMMA freezes on me now. It completes all steps of the process, gives me the "Updated X Transactions" "OK" button, then if I try to do anything my cursor turns into an hourglass. I have to generally crash EMMA then restart it, update the other 3 things, then it works. So the updates all work... it's just the first one crashes the program when complete, rather odd and a bit scary. I really think it may be because I have such a large database though I can't be sure. Size of the DB should not make a difference since SQL express can manage sizes of many times more than we are using and adding records works with a maximum of 1,000 rows at a time. I'm using a database with around 20,000 transaction records in and it's having no problems. I'll try creating 100,000 dummy records and see what happens. -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA

Bartesh	Posted - 2008.02.19 16:37:00 - [311] interesting project - can you post some screenshots? would be great to get a glimpse on it before installing all the database stuff.
Ambo 2nd Outcasters	Posted - 2008.02.19 19:12:00 - [312] Well there's not a whole lot to see but you can check out the unfinished tutorial or the manual included with the main download for some screenies. -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.02.19 19:21:00 - [313] Originally by: Ambo I'm using a database with around 20,000 transaction records in and it's having no problems. I'll try creating 100,000 dummy records and see what happens. Well, I am way over 20k myself. I add 1000+ every several days and the 6 months or so of transactions I imported from eveincome added an amazing amount of transactions. Not sure if a count is listed anywhere. I keep meaning to go through the reports and suggest some new things to list on them, I just keep getting bogged down with other things. There are def some useful report options I think should be added. Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
LaVista Vista Conservative Shenanigans Party	Posted - 2008.02.19 19:26:00 - [314] As long as the DB doesnt exceed 2gb, you will be fine.
Nap ViRii	Posted - 2008.02.19 21:07:00 - [315] hi all, Excited to use this app, and it looks like it's running for some people in Vista 64, but I'm continually getting the exception message below. Any ideas? ps. i've checked and have the 64 bit .net app and installed SQL express without trouble too. Exception Text ************** System.Data.SqlClient.SqlException: An attempt to attach an auto-named database for file D:\Utility Apps\EMMA_v0.9.1.21\Data\EMMA Database.mdf failed. A database with the same name exists, or specified file cannot be opened, or it is located on UNC share.
Vested Interest	Posted - 2008.02.20 03:27:00 - [316] Edited by: Vested Interest on 20/02/2008 03:28:30 What I'd like to do is get some profit reports for my small fleet of unaffiliated traders. To do this I'd envisioned exporting transaction logs from all 4 traders to CSV, mashing those into 1 file, and then re-importing them into a dummy (keyless) character to run reports. Can you make it possible to import a CSV back into the database under a dummy character for reporting? Otherwise I'll hold out for the multi-char support I've heard mentioned. Edit: the "bug" with "traded items" not auto-populating seems to have cleared. I wonder if it was because I hadn't updated my assets before attempting that.
Blazing Fire Interstellar Operations Incorporated Black-Out	Posted - 2008.02.20 08:08:00 - [317] Hey Ambo, I've got a few suggestions about things that realy annoy me. When I update transacations and journal I have to click the Ok button, then Ok button once more. Can you just show the progress while updating and the amount of items updated at the status bar, so the Import window auto-closes? Also when I start a new report, there is a message that says "Report complete". Why is this? Just display the report. Blazing Fire CEO Interstellar Operations Incorporated Corp web site Recruitment Looking for PvPeers in 0.0 space Looking for Hulk and Mackinaw pilots. We pay for the Ore Services [Service] Killboard hosting [Service] Forum hosting [Service] Web site hosting [Service] Obelisk for rent [Service] Alliance Creation Lotteries [Lottery] [EJIL] EVE Jackpot ISK Lottery
Ambo 2nd Outcasters	Posted - 2008.02.20 08:56:00 - [318] Originally by: Nap ViRii hi all, Excited to use this app, and it looks like it's running for some people in Vista 64, but I'm continually getting the exception message below. Any ideas? ps. i've checked and have the 64 bit .net app and installed SQL express without trouble too. Exception Text ************ System.Data.SqlClient.SqlException: An attempt to attach an auto-named database for file D:\Utility Apps\EMMA_v0.9.1.21\Data\EMMA Database.mdf failed. A database with the same name exists, or specified file cannot be opened, or it is located on UNC share. Firstly, I take it the file does actually exist? You should extract the version updates into the same folder as the older install, this way you won't lose old database data, etc. If you've just extracted the latest patch into it's own folder then there will not be a database file to attach to. (i.e. you'll need to get the full install, extract that first, then extract the latest patch into the same folder.) Originally by:** Vested Interest Edited by: Vested Interest on 20/02/2008 03:28:30 What I'd like to do is get some profit reports for my small fleet of unaffiliated traders. To do this I'd envisioned exporting transaction logs from all 4 traders to CSV, mashing those into 1 file, and then re-importing them into a dummy (keyless) character to run reports. Can you make it possible to import a CSV back into the database under a dummy character for reporting? Otherwise I'll hold out for the multi-char support I've heard mentioned. Edit: the "bug" with "traded items" not auto-populating seems to have cleared. I wonder if it was because I hadn't updated my assets before attempting that. Unfortunatley, it's more tricky than it seems to allow this kind of data mashing with the way EMMA currently works. You'll just have to wait for the proper multi-char support. I took a very good look at the traded items stuff and I can't find any possible problems. It's not affected by the assets table, only transactions so I have no idea what was going wrong. Originally by: Blazing Fire Hey Ambo, I've got a few suggestions about things that realy annoy me. When I update transacations and journal I have to click the Ok button, then Ok button once more. Can you just show the progress while updating and the amount of items updated at the status bar, so the Import window auto-closes? Also when I start a new report, there is a message that says "Report complete". Why is this? Just display the report. 1. I've been meaning to do that for ages, just keep forgetting. 2. It's because the progress dialog is generic and some things, like the API updates, you might want to see the information rather than have it disappear straight away. Consequently, it always requires the user to click ok. I can't think of any reason to keep it open for reports though so I'll change it to support both auto and manual closing. -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA
Rahnesch Gallente I-F-L Gallente Productions LTD	Posted - 2008.02.20 11:13:00 - [319] Originally by: Brother Mainard On downloading transactions... "Getting transactions (etc) Processing batch 1 Error Column 'ID, Wallet ID' is constrained to be unique, Value '485768391, 1000' is already present" Ideas? same happens to me, if i want to update in corpmode. Tried to download the files and import it, but same result. any ideas? Rahnesch
Ambo 2nd Outcasters	Posted - 2008.02.20 12:21:00 - [320] Which version are you running? -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA

Rahnesch Gallente I-F-L Gallente Productions LTD	Posted - 2008.02.20 14:36:00 - [321] Originally by: Ambo Which version are you running? latest version
Ginpour	Posted - 2008.02.20 15:48:00 - [322] I have tried and tried to get this program running. And every time on both my home machine and my work machine. I get .net errors when starting the program, and trying to load a character. I dont know if I am installing the wrong versions of .net and SQL. I followed the links in the original post. Do you think you could create an installer for EMMA that would check to see that the proper versions of .net and SQL are installed.
Orchid Ix Behind The Stars	Posted - 2008.02.20 16:13:00 - [323] Would be nice to be able to have EMMA use a MySQL DB on a remote/local server, as an option. -- Sig Under Construction
Ambo 2nd Outcasters	Posted - 2008.02.20 16:16:00 - [324] Originally by: Rahnesch Originally by: Ambo Which version are you running? latest version I'll log it as a bug still and investigate when I can then. No ideas at though I'm afraid. If you could send me a copy of the xml causing the problem (to [email protected]) that would be very helpful. Originally by: Ginpour I have tried and tried to get this program running. And every time on both my home machine and my work machine. I get .net errors when starting the program, and trying to load a character. I dont know if I am installing the wrong versions of .net and SQL. I followed the links in the original post. Do you think you could create an installer for EMMA that would check to see that the proper versions of .net and SQL are installed. I could have a go but frankly I know even less about installers than I did about SQL when I started this... I was talking to someone about using a web server and click-once deployment. This would (I think) resolve these kind of issues and mean that updates would be done automatically. The only problem is, it needs a web server and I don't have one. It's in the works though. I'll find out more when this evening hopefully. -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA
Secluse	Posted - 2008.02.20 16:47:00 - [325] I've scanned through the pages of this thread, and couldn't find an answer to this question: I do buying and selling using a corp account. The transactions are in my Wallet / Journal in-game, but are highlighted as (on behalf of the corporation). When I look at the Item Reports, it doesn't appear to pick up those transactions in the movements, and it's not in any other report. As a result, I cannot see a true reflection of all transactions. Is this the case, and is this how it is meant to be? I would love to be able to get all the data on a single sheet.
Ambo 2nd Outcasters	Posted - 2008.02.20 17:50:00 - [326] Currently, transactions done on behalf of a corp are not saved to the database. Only when you are actually running in corp mode will you see corporate transactions and then you will see all the transactions for the corp. (I think.. Not tried this cos I've got no data to test with). To see a combined view of both corporate and personal transactions, I'm afraid you'll have to wait for the big update I'm doing. -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA
Secluse	Posted - 2008.02.21 18:26:00 - [327] OK, I have no problem waiting :) Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing a button anywhere. Thanks!
Elana Vaho	Posted - 2008.02.22 21:29:00 - [328] This is a great app! Really nice work :) Just wondering, when I open a report (Income statement) I miss some kind of calculated profit. It this planned to get added in the future. This is maybe allready there, I just haven't seen it yet. Atm I have to calculate it by myself from the revenue and expenses. Another thing, is there any way I can add older transactions and journal records? As I have just recently find this beautiful app :D My transactions just goes back one month or so. I'm not really a trader, buying things at low price selling at a higher. I'm producing stuff. What if there could be some feture where you could add what stuff is needed for a specific item, so when I make a detailed item report I can see the minerals I bought as expenses and the sold item as revenue? When I make a detailed item report now I only see the ones I sold with no expenses at all. This makes it hard for me to really see the big picture for my production costs. This might be a bit difficult feture to implement or even to odd that people wont be using. I'm maybe just to weired :P Thanks again for this great app ;)
Ambo 2nd Outcasters	Posted - 2008.02.23 08:00:00 - [329] Edited by: Ambo on 23/02/2008 08:01:37 Manufacturing is somthing I'd like to support more but EMMA is first and foremost designed for traders and investors. Eve-MEEP is might be more appropriate if you are looking for somthing more production-oriented. The only way to get older data is if you have used another program like Eve-MEEP or Eve-Income before. Data from these can then be imported to EMMA. Edit - btw the profit figure is not displayed of the income report because it would only be profit from the point-of-view of your wallet. I.e. it would not take into account your assets, money in escrow, etc. -------------------------------------- Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA
Ginpour	Posted - 2008.02.23 15:05:00 - [330] Emma has started to co-operate with me. Even though there are warnings when I start the program. Anyways... How can I tell EMMA to count the items that I bought in Jita and am now selling somewhere else? Is it possible for EMMA to take a look at my orders tab in my wallet? And calculate the profit I am making from these items. And to also tell me when I have run out of a certain item?



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