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Claude DuVall	Posted - 2007.11.29 21:18:00 - [1] I'm looking at making a character who is an armor tank. I know Ammar (o r I think I know) are the best armor tanks? So I'm looking for a rce that isn't as known for thier armor tanking. Something that will suprise people when they see that you ARE armor tanking. Can anyone toss some suggestions my way please? Thank you! Cheers, Claude DuVall Black holes are where god divided by Zero.
Seamus O'Malley Elite Storm Enterprises Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.11.29 21:21:00 - [2] Jove Stupid questions get stupid answers
Claude DuVall	Posted - 2007.11.29 21:23:00 - [3] Originally by: Seamus O'Malley Jove Stupid questions get stupid answers Noobs (me) who ask stupid questions are noobs and can get smarter... non-noobs (you?) who give stupid answers are still stupid and must not have much hope left in getting smarter.... ;) (Just hackin ya) Claude DuVall ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Black holes are where god divided by Zero.
Trevor Warps	Posted - 2007.11.29 21:23:00 - [4] Caldari They are the shield tankers. Maybe a HP buffer fit could surprise them. Would be fun to see people dealing EM damage to your rokh only to realize that the armor isn't going down anytime soon, thanks to these plates you fitted ;)
TimMc Exanimo Inc	Posted - 2007.11.29 21:25:00 - [5] MWD-Torp-Armour Tanking Raven... kekekeke All the other races (including Minmatar) commonly armour tank.
Claude DuVall	Posted - 2007.11.29 22:28:00 - [6] So I'm thinking then a Raven so you won't be wasting the shield bonus that the Rohk gets? 5 lows isn't exactly what the Ammar get but its' comparible to the Minmatar so an amor tank would be doable, yes? Are there any good guides out there on armor tanking? Right now I do passive shield tanking on a drake for PvE so I'm not familiar with all the ins and outs of armor tanking. Thanks again for all the answers! Claude Duvall Black holes are where god divided by Zero.
Liang Nuren The Avalon Foundation Knights Of Syndicate	Posted - 2007.11.29 22:38:00 - [7] Originally by: Claude DuVall So I'm thinking then a Raven so you won't be wasting the shield bonus that the Rohk gets? 5 lows isn't exactly what the Ammar get but its' comparible to the Minmatar so an amor tank would be doable, yes? Are there any good guides out there on armor tanking? Right now I do passive shield tanking on a drake for PvE so I'm not familiar with all the ins and outs of armor tanking. Thanks again for all the answers! Claude Duvall Erm, look to the Hyperion. Liang -- Retired forum *****. Plz tell me to STFU. Yarr?
Claude DuVall	Posted - 2007.11.29 22:44:00 - [8] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Claude DuVall So I'm thinking then a Raven so you won't be wasting the shield bonus that the Rohk gets? 5 lows isn't exactly what the Ammar get but its' comparible to the Minmatar so an amor tank would be doable, yes? Are there any good guides out there on armor tanking? Right now I do passive shield tanking on a drake for PvE so I'm not familiar with all the ins and outs of armor tanking. Thanks again for all the answers! Claude Duvall Erm, look to the Hyperion. Liang Hehe the point of this is that I want to make a character in a ship to armor tank that people won't suspect is going to armor tank. So if I grab a ship that is MADE to armor tank... well... they might suspect something. ;) Cheers! Claude DuVall Black holes are where god divided by Zero.
Kiviar Caldari Vice-Presidential Action Rangers	Posted - 2007.11.29 22:53:00 - [9] Originally by: Claude DuVall So I'm looking for a rce that isn't as known for thier armor tanking. Something that will suprise people when they see that you ARE armor tanking. Can anyone toss some suggestions my way please? Thank you! Its a cool idea that a lot of people get when they start the game, but in the end its a bad idea. You will surprise people with an armour tanked raven, however, It dosnt mean that they wont melt your ship in seconds. Ships that are meant to fit one type of tank, generally are very poor at fitting any other type. You wont even really receive an advantage in pvp from "surprise" either. It simply means your sheilds will be knocked down much faster than usual, and your armour will last considerably longer than usual. Since both tanked armour and shields usualy have the exact same resists, your ability to tank just boils down to how many slots you can devote to it. So really, the "surprise" your enemies are going to get is seeing LAR IIs and EANM IIs on your raven's killmail. ---
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.11.29 23:35:00 - [10] Originally by: Kiviar Originally by: Claude DuVall So I'm looking for a rce that isn't as known for thier armor tanking. Something that will suprise people when they see that you ARE armor tanking. Can anyone toss some suggestions my way please? Thank you! Its a cool idea that a lot of people get when they start the game, but in the end its a bad idea. You will surprise people with an armour tanked raven, however, It dosnt mean that they wont melt your ship in seconds. Ships that are meant to fit one type of tank, generally are very poor at fitting any other type. You wont even really receive an advantage in pvp from "surprise" either. It simply means your sheilds will be knocked down much faster than usual, and your armour will last considerably longer than usual. Since both tanked armour and shields usualy have the exact same resists, your ability to tank just boils down to how many slots you can devote to it. So really, the "surprise" your enemies are going to get is seeing LAR IIs and EANM IIs on your raven's killmail. Maybe if you add some ew goodies in the meds, this wont happen? _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
KarGard	Posted - 2007.11.29 23:41:00 - [11] Originally by: madaluap Maybe if you add some ew goodies in the meds, this wont happen? Unbonused Ewar is pretty bleh imo, and if you are talking about a raven, soloing, you are only going to get two slots for it anyway. That is better than a the norm I guess.
Naviset	Posted - 2007.11.30 00:28:00 - [12] Originally by: Kiviar Originally by: Claude DuVall So I'm looking for a rce that isn't as known for thier armor tanking. Something that will suprise people when they see that you ARE armor tanking. Can anyone toss some suggestions my way please? Thank you! Its a cool idea that a lot of people get when they start the game, but in the end its a bad idea. You will surprise people with an armour tanked raven, however, It dosnt mean that they wont melt your ship in seconds. Ships that are meant to fit one type of tank, generally are very poor at fitting any other type. You wont even really receive an advantage in pvp from "surprise" either. It simply means your sheilds will be knocked down much faster than usual, and your armour will last considerably longer than usual. Since both tanked armour and shields usualy have the exact same resists, your ability to tank just boils down to how many slots you can devote to it. So really, the "surprise" your enemies are going to get is seeing LAR IIs and EANM IIs on your raven's killmail. For pvp, the best Raven setup includes an armor tank, 6 mids for damps/tds/ecm/mwd, missiles high. I'm not saying this from my opinion, it pretty much IS the best pvp setup for a raven :-p
NoNah Tenth Legion Holdings	Posted - 2007.11.30 00:35:00 - [13] Originally by: Claude DuVall I'm looking at making a character who is an armor tank. I know Ammar (o r I think I know) are the best armor tanks? So I'm looking for a rce that isn't as known for thier armor tanking. Something that will suprise people when they see that you ARE armor tanking. Can anyone toss some suggestions my way please? Thank you! Cheers, Claude DuVall Does your girlfriend put up with you not bothering to learn to the names of your loved ones? Postcount: 780049
Claude DuVall	Posted - 2007.11.30 00:47:00 - [14] Originally by: NoNah Originally by: Claude DuVall I'm looking at making a character who is an armor tank. I know Ammar (o r I think I know) are the best armor tanks? So I'm looking for a rce that isn't as known for thier armor tanking. Something that will suprise people when they see that you ARE armor tanking. Can anyone toss some suggestions my way please? Thank you! Cheers, Claude DuVall Does your girlfriend put up with you not bothering to learn to the names of your loved ones? Actualy she has come to expect it from me. I've never been good with names so I don't bother trying. She doesn't bother trying to rememebr phone numbers since she's not good remembering them. So instead I carry around a planner with names I need to remember and such. She programs ALL the numbers she needs to know in her cell phone and on her pda. What this has to do with Non-ammar armor tanking I'm pretty sure has something to do with me calling something by the wrong name? Maybe spelling it wrong? Either way, awsome post completely off topic and letting me get back to the top so more people can read it and give me wonderful advice on what to do with my armor tanking Caldari raven (or something there bouts). Cheers! Claud DuVall Black holes are where god divided by Zero.
Yerik Locke Caldari The New Order. United Connection's	Posted - 2007.11.30 02:18:00 - [15] Why can't people spell Amarr
Sarah Aubry Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.11.30 02:22:00 - [16] Claude, listen to the wisdom above. "Suprise" tanking is when you tank a typical gank ship. EG triple rep mega with a low damage fit. This is so when a small gang (cause if it's big your tank doesn't matter), calls you primary because they think you'll die quick - you end up tanking them for a long time and swing the battle to your gang's favour. Very bad tanking as you are suggesting will just make you look stupid on killmails, it won't influence the battle at all. You COULD hull tank an abaddon and get like 30-50,000 hp (i think) but you will still die horribly. Passive armor tanking is quite possible, I have a 230,000 effective hp Abaddon on sisi which survives most FFA gangs - they tend to get bored after about 5 minutes and switch targets.

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