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Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2007.11.30 19:32:00 -
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SB can be fun to fly but.
1) Cannot warp cloaked
2) Bombs only deployable in 0.0
3) Paper thin
I've fought a decent number of a SBs and I've never had a frig insta-popped by one volley. Maybe that happened before the HP buff. I once had a Manti with a TP pop my Rifter with two volleys 
In a fast cruiser, such as a Stabber, I love seeing a SB in the fight. I just lock it so it can't cloak, zoom up to it while 1 or 2 volleys of cruise missiles pretty much bounce off me, scram and kill it. An AF, such as a Jaguar, is even better at killing SBs. Cruise missiles barely scratch the Jag in a standard shield tank configuration.
Seems quite a few SB pilots overestimate both their damage potential and survivability. They're flying a frig class ship, but forget they don't have the usual frig weapon RoF.
Best item for the mids on a SB was (still is after trinity?) damps. Allows you to delay or break enemy targeting so you can GTFO or recloak if necessary.
Some of the above may have already been said. I was a bit lazy and didn't read the other posts too closely. Meh, it's Friday.
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Certis Serance
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Posted - 2007.11.30 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Certis Serance on 30/11/2007 21:55:28
*edit for spelling*
Friday = lazy day
Anyways, point of an SB above all is that you can fight on your terms, and should your first shot not be lethal you just cloak and re-asses.
You can always stay cloaked if the situation is no longer in your favour.
I think the most important thing about flying an SB is picking your battles.
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Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr
The Firestorm Elite
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Posted - 2007.11.30 22:03:00 -
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 Originally by: Certis Serance
I think the most important thing about flying an SB is picking your battles.
so true...i think all bomber pilot dreams about some time sneaking up on a destroyer...
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Military Industrial Research
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Posted - 2007.12.01 00:29:00 -
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Edited by: Reem Fairchild on 01/12/2007 00:29:52
Most important thing about the stealth bomber:
IT IS NOT A SOLO SHIP!
Anyone who tries to use it that way is going to ultimately find it useless (and, it seems, then come to the board's and state that it is useless as if it was undeniable fact, when really they don't know what the hell they are talking about).
Also, to the op, don't use a passive targeter on a stealth bomber. A passive targeter on a Stealth bomber does one thing, and one thing only. That thing is to waste a slot. That's all it does.
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VB Sarge
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Posted - 2007.12.01 02:52:00 -
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I also had stars in my eyes dreaming of a Stealth Bomber being an awesome killing machine when I first started a year and a half ago. After coming back from a break, I actually got into one, and was disappointed by the fact that all SB's were put on par with the Manticore (but that's a different topic) and their lack of usefulness.
Any frig with a shield extender or plate will survive the first volley, unless you have REALLY high missile skills. Now that my skills are higher, I'll do more damage, but still wont 1 volley a Rifter with a Medium Shield Extender.
However, they get to pick their fights, which is great. It just takes patience. 1 in a gang op would be very useful. Catch someone in a belt or a mission, and that's a pretty damn big alpha strike on anything. You should pretty much always fight out of scram range, and therefor, be able to warp out and back in if need be. Taking out Inty's and AF's as well as support Frigs in 1 or 2 volley's gives them a nice niche in fleet battles, and a few of them together can take out most cruisers with 1 alpha strike. Their explosion radius reduction means frig sized ships are feeling the full effect of the cruise missiles, and a target painter isn't needed in all situations. Even with the nerf, damps would still be my choice on a SB.
In practice, they aren't as strong as you might initially think they are, but they are still very useful. You might have to watch your ass from time to time, but practice will let you learn what you need to do to avoid blowing up.
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Geren Basbar
Helios Incorporated
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.12.01 05:22:00 -
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Stealth Bombers are going to be much more useful in Trinity. You don't have to kill yourself to use bombs now, and they can jump to covert ops cyno fields :)
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Amanda Shadowsword
Caldari
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.12.01 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Edited by: Cpt Branko on 30/11/2007 14:46:02
Originally by: Certis Serance
Interceptor killers? Hardly, because many interceptors are just too damn fast for you, although with heavy spec in it, you might be able to.
Interceptors are 98% of the time, easy kills.
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E Vile
Fifth Exiled Legion
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.01 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: me bored
Their main role is to make you waste your entire wallet on bombs and then and then drop them on yourself. At least if my experiences are anything to go by. 
 hahaha Doh!
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Granmethedon III
High4Life
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.01 14:16:00 -
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I currently fly ceptors, dictors, afs and bombers; and at this point most of my kills are in the bomber.
The guy who mentioned that it's not a solo ship has it spot on. 2 or 3 bombers with damps in the mids, along with a tackler or two can take down all manner of targets; if you use faction ammo and have decent skills you can get an alpha strike of around 2000 hps a ship so with 3 in a gang dps isn't really an issue as anything smaller than a bc is down after a couple of volleys. With the added advantage of stealth, meaning that scouts won't be able to report your ship type, they can encourage opponents to engage when they're going to end up as toast.
They're best employed to terrorise enemy pipelines; get a small bomber gang with a cloaking dictor and you're really going to cause a lot of fear. Say if there's a fleet fight going down; you can move into position to cut off any support/straggelers coming to reinforce.
With the improvements to bombs, and the black ops jump gates, they're just making a great ship even better, in my opinion.
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Phelan Lore
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.01 14:28:00 -
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Stealth bomber group role is comic relief.
"Hey guys can I bring my stealth bomber on the op?"
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Certis Serance
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Posted - 2007.12.01 19:46:00 -
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Edited by: Certis Serance on 01/12/2007 19:47:44
Once more, edit for spelling
Well right now i'm the only one training for SBs, but the corp is still small and very young.
I would love to participate in Stealth Ops with other SBs.
Speaking of training, i just hopped in my Manticore 5min ago. Now it's only a few days before i get my cloaking to lvl3 and start my harrasment tour through the universe :p
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Zanarkand
Gallente
Enterprise Estonia
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Posted - 2007.12.01 19:50:00 -
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SB can do up to 300 dps... it is not that bad...
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Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr
The Firestorm Elite
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Posted - 2007.12.01 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Certis Serance
Edited by: Certis Serance on 01/12/2007 19:47:44
Once more, edit for spelling
Well right now i'm the only one training for SBs, but the corp is still small and very young.
I would love to participate in Stealth Ops with other SBs.
Speaking of training, i just hopped in my Manticore 5min ago. Now it's only a few days before i get my cloaking to lvl3 and start my harrasment tour through the universe :p
make sure you get covops to atleast lvl 4 to so you get some speed bonus^^
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Certis Serance
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Posted - 2007.12.02 00:51:00 -
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Lvl4 with a 6x multiplier... I might aswell train for HACs right now instead lol
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Glorious CarnageTyphoon
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Posted - 2007.12.03 06:24:00 -
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Has anyone tried to use the SB like a WWII sub. Get a group of them together and go commerce raiding. I am training for SB also and what I planned to do was use it to sneak into enemy territory and attack their economy. I think five or six SB shooting cruise missles would ***** open Hulks in one or two volleys, then recloak and look for more soft targets. By doing this you would force the enemy to expend man hours guarding their their miners and haulers, rather than fighting. Also if you had enough SBs you could alpha strike the target before any escorts could lock on you. All you would need is enough firepower to drop it in one volley. I think this would make an okay tactic. Of course I'm a newb so what do I know.
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Glorious CarnageTyphoon
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Posted - 2007.12.03 06:26:00 -
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Wow, the profanity filter won't let me say c-rack, thats not every a swear word you dumb ****s.
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Sir Estrang
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Posted - 2007.12.03 07:57:00 -
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That is a very cool idea, I like the unconvential possibilities with the stealth bomber, basically I was hoping for it to be an effective war vessel but not always in direct fleet battles, like you said harassing an enemy corps mining/npcing troops is a great way to mess them up, especially if they have no effective retaliation other then their own recon ships.
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Multras
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.03 08:26:00 -
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I would say stealth bombers are good for a smaller sized gang. I usually get near the top of the killmail, so the dmg aint bad. When you get an inty they usually pop a boner and come running for ya, overload your faction web and dampen them, bye bye inty.
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