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Kathryn Dougans
B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm
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Posted - 2007.12.01 16:10:00 -
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Hi there,
Will there be any more faction ships in the future?
I was thinking the other day about some of the ships that you encounter in game, like the Blood Raiders ships, which are similar hulls to existing player ships, but different colours.
Would it be nice to have these ships available for people to build and fly? Even purely as a cosmetic measure, they wouldn't have different statistics or slots?
Faction rookieships as well, just for a bit of fun, like those Serpentis velators.
Having these things, with their different colourschemes, would also give people who really don't like the new colours in Trinity, an option to fly something else without it being a different ship. Don't like Gallente blue, fly Serpentis colours?
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UGWidowmaker
Caldari
Setenta Corp
Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.12.01 16:11:00 -
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jup i still await faction cap ships...
OMFG
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2007.12.01 16:13:00 -
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Gistii Depredator hull looks nice.
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.01 16:18:00 -
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OldWolfe
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.12.01 16:23:00 -
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They absolutely NEED to include faction battle cruisers.
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Xollst
Caldari
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.12.01 16:25:00 -
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i agree at faction BC, a navy ferox would be awesome (drake is already tanked enough lol)
but opposed to faction capships i think they should at least go for faction capital mods first... estamels modified citadel torpedo launcher or somethign
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.01 16:28:00 -
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it would be nice if ccp buffs the current faction ships first.
the faction battleship can keep u with their t2 counterparts,
the cruisers and frigs tho stand no chance and have no place in pvp which is a pity if you ask me.
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Malcanis
High4Life
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.01 16:46:00 -
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It would be nice if the faction ships were lot less pricey from the LP stores. Fleet stabber costs more than a Vagabond...
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Shar'Tuk TheHated
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Posted - 2007.12.01 16:51:00 -
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Yes please.
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Kathryn Dougans
B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm
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Posted - 2007.12.01 17:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
it would be nice if ccp buffs the current faction ships first.
the faction battleship can keep u with their t2 counterparts,
the cruisers and frigs tho stand no chance and have no place in pvp which is a pity if you ask me.
Do Tech1 frigates and cruisers have a place in pvp? Or do the Tech2 frigates and cruisers make them obsolete except for suicide gangs?
I was thinking that several faction frigates, destroyers, cruisers, battlecruisers, etc. would be just different colours to their equivalents, not having superior statistics, because that would promote farming of whatever has the blueprints, high prices for the ships, and further obsoleteness of Tech1 ships.
Like a Navy Incursus. These appear in some missions. An Incursus is worth 200k or so, isn't it? While an Ishkur or Enyo is worth millions. If a Navy Incursus is as capable as the Tech2, then it becomes worth at least as much, while being far easier to build, doesn't it? This makes a Navy Incursus BPC something that should be found rarely - not in level1 missions or complexes. That makes them rarer, and so more valuable to some people, which makes them even less likely to be used. End result being no-one flies them, especially not in combat.
But on the other hand, if a Navy Incursus is only the same as an ordinary Incursus, then it's something that people would fly and lose as casually as they would the Incursus. That makes the BPCs worth less, so more appropriate to be found in level1 missions, so more people would find them, build them and use them. This would make early gameplay more rewarding, even though there is no game advantage to be had in flying a Navy Incursus, because the player has a sense of achievement.
Although, for unique faction ships, those not based on player ship hulls, like Sanshas or Angels, then by all means have them as capable as Tech2 ships, esp. when fitted appropriately.
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Stakhanov
The Good Fellas
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Posted - 2007.12.01 17:23:00 -
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I'd ask for faction ewar ships , but they nerfed damps 
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.12.01 17:27:00 -
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faction ships are awesome for pvp, they have superior tanking ability
they are just far too expensive to risk 
Originally by: Cecil Montague
They should change that warning on entering low sec to:
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Mattikus
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Posted - 2007.12.01 18:12:00 -
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No more faction ships...I want more ship types!!
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Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude
oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2007.12.01 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: SoftRevolution
Gistii Depredator hull looks nice.
That's one ship I wish had been seeded for the players. Much better looking than than it's bigger sister.
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Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This
Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.12.01 18:16:00 -
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I'd like them to happen. First off, I'd like the prexisting ships to get overhauled so they don't suck in comparison to the tier2 or incoming t2 ships. Right now, the only clearly decent faction ships are the BSs. Cruiser and Frigs really do suck in any resonable comparison.
I'd really like to have a reason to undock my faction ships for more than a simple low-level mission.
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2007.12.01 18:28:00 -
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Edited by: LUH 3471 on 01/12/2007 18:35:30
Originally by: SoftRevolution
Gistii Depredator hull looks nice.
especially with the dx9c graphics <3
also factionships should be boosted alittle bit
for example give them the resistance of the t2 battleships
at the moment they are kinda obsolete which is a shame
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insidion
Caldari
Last of the Technocracy
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Posted - 2007.12.01 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Mattikus
No more faction ships...I want more ship types!!
Why not both. =)
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Boratora
Gallente
Really Nice And Laidback Corporation
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Posted - 2007.12.01 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: Mattikus
No more faction ships...I want more ship types!!
Didn't we just get five new ship classes...?
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Del Narveux
Dukes of Hazard
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Posted - 2007.12.02 06:03:00 -
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Edited by: Del Narveux on 02/12/2007 06:04:22
Ive said it before, Ill expand on my thoughts a little bit here. There should be way, way, way more faction ships. They should be affordable, costing only a little more than vanilla tech 1. But they should be balanced, i.e. favor some stats at expense of other, and change paintjob of course. Paintjob is most important. 
The way I see this as working is each NPC corp gives out faction ship BPCs for their corp, it requires the tech 1 ship plus maybe a small amount of minerals or something. Pricing from the LP store would be something like 150k/1.5mil/15mil for frig/cruiser/bs respectively. Each tech 1 ship should get 2-3 faction variants. Ill use the Moa, one of my favorite ships, as an example.
Variant 1: Ishukone Moa
Stat changes: Ishukone loves EW and midslots, so the Ishukone Moa gains one midslot at the expense of one lowslot and slightly reduced armor HP. Bonuses stay the same. Fly this if you want a Moa with a little more cowbell.
Variant 2: Propel Dynamics Moa
Stat changes: Propel Dynamics isnt a major player, so they wanted a patrol boat that is really durable. Gains a midslot and shield HP, loses two highslots. Fly this if you want a tank few will forget, and a damage output few will remember.
Variant 3: Prompt Delivery Moa
Stat changes: Prompt Delivery is like UPS for the caldari state, so they wanted a ship that was really fast, with enough defenses to sa***uard the cargo until it can get to its destination. 230m/s base speed, 400m3 cargo bay, gains one low and one mid, loses two highs and two gun points. Fly this if you want a heavy tackler with really weak damage.
The beauty of doing it this way is we get huge diveristy in ships without hurting tech 1 producers (since the ship bpcs will require the t1 ship). In fact, since these would provide a viable alternative to t2 in some cases, it might acutally benefit them with higher demand for their ships. But the real key is they need to be AFFORDABLE, so they see regular use...right now faction ships are so rare and expensive, aside from some of the battleships theyre just collectors items for bored rich people.
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Daelin Blackleaf
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.12.02 06:10:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
It would be nice if the faction ships were lot less pricey from the LP stores. Fleet stabber costs more than a Vagabond...
This.
I don't want more collectors items and toys for when I have ISK to spare, I want more real options.
I'd love to see more faction ships, but unless the prices are reduced they wouldn't really appeal to me.
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insidion
Caldari
Last of the Technocracy
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Posted - 2007.12.02 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf
This.
I don't want more collectors items and toys for when I have ISK to spare, I want more real options.
I'd love to see more faction ships, but unless the prices are reduced they wouldn't really appeal to me.
Again, both would be nice really, but if I had to choose....functional faction over collectors items all the way. Part of the issue is not only cost, but majority of the existing factional ships are not only expensive, they're frankly all but useless. The BS class is ok for the most part, but BC is non existant, cruiser and frigs are pretty craptacular and could use some polishing.
New daredevil and dramiel look *wicked* though, just have to turn them into something useful heh.
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Atreus Danerun
Amarr
Caldari Bank
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Posted - 2007.12.02 06:24:00 -
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As a carebear, sorry y'all "naturally born killers" out there  , I always wanted a Faction Industrials, Faction Mining Barges, Faction Stripminers, Faction Ice Miners, and any and all "carebearish" paraphenelia.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.12.02 06:26:00 -
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I want a fraction ship.
You know, like, half a Nightmare or sumfin'.
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Mi Lai
The Black Dragon Society
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Posted - 2007.12.02 07:02:00 -
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Khanid Apoc or Geddon pls, thnx. Even a Khanid Omen would be nice.
Also, I hope we will be getting some more variety in hulls, not just paintjob.
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UGWidowmaker
Caldari
Setenta Corp
Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.12.02 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Atreus Danerun
As a carebear, sorry y'all "naturally born killers" out there , I always wanted a Faction Industrials, Faction Mining Barges, Faction Stripminers, Faction Ice Miners, and any and all "carebearish" paraphenelia.
hmm ye there is nothing like this for the miners... i agree they should also feel the faction powers...
OMFG
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.12.02 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Boratora
Originally by: Mattikus
No more faction ships...I want more ship types!!
Didn't we just get five new ship classes...?
Zero new ship hulls.
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Freya Runestone
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.12.02 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Atreus Danerun
As a carebear, sorry y'all "naturally born killers" out there , I always wanted a Faction Industrials, Faction Mining Barges, Faction Stripminers, Faction Ice Miners, and any and all "carebearish" paraphenelia.
isn't ORE a bit like faction? kinda... just a little bit?
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.12.02 08:03:00 -
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Originally by: Freya Runestone
Originally by: Atreus Danerun
As a carebear, sorry y'all "naturally born killers" out there , I always wanted a Faction Industrials, Faction Mining Barges, Faction Stripminers, Faction Ice Miners, and any and all "carebearish" paraphenelia.
isn't ORE a bit like faction? kinda... just a little bit?
In the same way that every single ship in the game is manufactured by some faction, sure. It sure as hell ain't a Mackinaw ORE Issue. /drool
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Daelin Blackleaf
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.12.02 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Amarria Black
Originally by: Boratora
Originally by: Mattikus
No more faction ships...I want more ship types!!
Didn't we just get five new ship classes...?
Zero new ship hulls.
Didn't we just get several hundred new ship hulls? 
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Gorthauran
Amarr
Throne of Tragedy
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Posted - 2007.12.02 08:26:00 -
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/awaits his Abaddon Navy Issue...could be a very, very, very long wait.
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