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Cipher7
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.12.03 01:33:00 -
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Okay first of all, yes the planet is getting warmer.
Asking whether its "man made" or "natural" implies that man is not part of nature.
Anything man does is natural. If we kill off all the Buffalo its the same thing as if the Wolves kill off all the Sheep.
Dinosaurs were extinct before humans ever got here. Other animals went extinct that had nothing to do with humans like the Wooly Mammoth and Sabretooth Tiger.
Every species of creature is not meant to survive, that is natural selection.
The same goes for human beings.
If human beings through their actions affect conditions that cause our species to die out, then we will be gone, and another species will take our place as the dominant apex predator on planet Earth.
So you see, human beings are not above nature, we are a part of it, and we can become extinct just like the dinosaur and the wooly mammoth. In fact it is a %100 chance that we will go extinct, as all species eventually will.
Whether that happens sooner or later is not an "environmental" concern, it is a human self-interest concern.
The polar ice caps melting is not a threat to the planet. Its a threat to humans who live on coasts.
We can't do anything to hurt the planet. The planet on the other hand can squash us like insects.
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Cipher7
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.03 18:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Harondor Miriadwaith
By this definition I find it hard/impossible to exclude anything at all as natural, and so there is no real point in the definition. What are you defining it against?
That's exactly the point.
Anything man does is natural.
When an ape takes a branch, shapes it, and sticks it into an anthill and eats the ants we say "Look at that, the ape made a tool to get food."
Humans are just smarter apes with more complex tools.
Man is a bipedal animal.
If the factory that produced my computer contributed to the extinction of the Tibetan Snow Owl, too bad so sad, but keep pumping out the computers because daddy needs an upgrade.
Why is it when Beavers build a dam it's "natural" but when Humans build a dam it's a hazard to the environment?
Beavers are f*cking animals just like Humans.
Birds build nests. Humans build Condos.
Everything man creates is "natural" including spaceships and nuclear power plants.
And if the other animals don't like it, tough.
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Cipher7
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.03 21:40:00 -
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The word "natural" comes from a Judeo-Christian worldview that Man is a special being and that all the other species are animals.
"Process" what so mixing concrete with sand is somehow different from mixing mud and twigs?
When a bee takes sugars and transforms it into honey, and makes a honeycomb, that's not processed right?
Lets save all the cute furry animals and kill anything that looks icky.
Hyprocrits.
George Carlin had a segment on people like you. Imma try to go find it.
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Cipher7
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.03 21:44:00 -
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For all you "save the planet" clowns
George Carlin on "Saving the Planet"
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Cipher7
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.04 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: Harondor Miriadwaith
I would rather pay ú16 for 4 chicken ******* from free range wood chicken than ú3 for those bread in warehouses with no room to move (although i admit this is mainly for a personal health and taste reasons).
When people say "taking care of the environment" what they really should say is "reducing harm to humans from the environment."
What is the cost of all the antibiotics and growth hormone in our meat? What is the cost of having cows that haven't walked 5 feet in their whole lives? What is the cost of genetically altered wheat and produce?
Man thinks he can outsmart nature. Man is wrong and there is a price to pay.
I think the human race in on a catastrophic course, and that thought doesn't bother me one bit.
A general culling of the population is in order, to bring us back in balance.
This does not require any human action.
Nature will handle it.
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Cipher7
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.04 15:48:00 -
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All it takes is a plague or a virus to knock down the whole house of cards.
The Spanish Flu killed more people than WW2.
Or how bout that nice Bubonic plague.
HIV is a good one, not only kills ya, but also inhibits sex cuz everybody's scared that you might have it. That should cut down the birth rate a bit, especially in Western countries that have a high awareness of it.
Man is but one of nature's creatures. So far its most powerful and cunning creation.
I bet the dinosaurs thought they were pretty hot stuff too. All big and bad with sharp teeth. All it took was a climate change to give em all dirtnaps.
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