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Peanut Swsh Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.12.06 12:10:00 - [361] Whats the big deal with the BoB war anyway? BOB is just another alliance. They aren't the endgame. While they probably are the most powerful individual entity in game, they are with their allies just another bunch of people who fly their internet spaceship. And since the downfall of ASCN they and their allies are probably not the most powerful group ingame. So really what's with peoples obsession with killing BOB? Its like this goal that people have, but I'm really not sure why its a big deal, and I think a lot of people are just jumping on bandwagons around the place without any real reason of their own. Like some huge *** internet spaceship witch hunt. Its more fun when theres everyone fighting. And to be honest fighting on behalf of Alliances which treat us like trash, doesn't appeal to me. Goon have never lifted a hand to help SMASHKILL afaik, and RA, well there was the bull** over the MS scam, and also they have their alt-alliance X.I.X fighting us, out of one of their stations in the between 2 of our stations... Yep, allies we can really trust. They don't treat us as allies so really why would we wanna help them? Yep we have people in our alliance who wanna kill BOB for whatever reason, but to do it in aid of RSF, meh. End of the day, whatever alliance leadership decides, I'll be there with guns out.
Edison Frisk Minmatar Black Lotus Heavy Industries Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2007.12.06 12:17:00 - [362] Originally by: Nhoj Sllew on another note who can't wait for these regions to get real names I concur!!
Peanut Swsh Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.12.06 12:20:00 - [363] Originally by: Edison Frisk Originally by: Nhoj Sllew on another note who can't wait for these regions to get real names I concur!! Hopefully someone comes up with something good. We forgot to register for the naming committee oops.
Banlish Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 12:59:00 - [364] Originally by: Peanut Swsh Originally by: Edison Frisk Originally by: Nhoj Sllew on another note who can't wait for these regions to get real names I concur!! Hopefully someone comes up with something good. We forgot to register for the naming committee oops. I was asked to send in names for ALL regions because of the 'lack' of response to many regions not having anyone sign up for the naming committee. There were 2 to 3 names for each region, but because of being allowed on that committee they have asked/requested that no one mention those names till they 'appear'. Not a bad system and I hope some of the names come out as fully half the list we sent in were being considered for various regions and such. It'll be really nice NOT to have to call them 87, 7-k, S-I, etc, etc. Anymore. Not sure how fast their going to do this tho, the patch would have been a great time to add that change too. As to RA, my corp has fought them since we first stepped out in 0.0. We watched them come back from less then 650 members in their alliance and a single station to the giant they are now. Gotta admit, even after personally getting fried by RA pilots I've been impressed by the 'come back' they pulled off. Do I hope a diplomatic solution will happen? Yes. Do I think it could happen? Yes. Do I think it's easy to get in touch with RA for this to occur? No. Lots of barriers to that from what we've experienced. Language, lack of ppl to contact, and up until a few days ago we didn't even have a reason with RA being a few jumps away (XdeathX gift station not withstanding) I don't have alot against RA, but Peanut brought up alot of good points. Atlas has ALOT of bones to pick with the GBC, yet we are fighting RA and XdeathX because of the space we hold. It makes it very hard to get behind anything with those conditions in effect. Either way, see you on the field. You fight well. -Ban Atlas head diplomat
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Mr Broker Amarr Station Gremlings	Posted - 2007.12.06 13:34:00 - [366] Originally by: Peanut Swsh So really what's with peoples obsession with killing BOB? Its like this goal that people have, but I'm really not sure why its a big deal, and I think a lot of people are just jumping on bandwagons around the place without any real reason of their own. Like some huge ***** internet spaceship witch hunt. don't worry, your alliance has never jumped on this bandwagon, in fact worked against said bandwagon by throwing a monkey wrench on three different occasions into said bandwagon's plans, frege did more in the bob war in 3 weeks than your alliance in 12 months, roadkill and smash will have no mention at all in the war against bob, if anything, peoke will be seen as a traitor and bob alt and roadkill as a fool for supporting peoke
Achaiah Black Bag Ops	Posted - 2007.12.06 13:42:00 - [367] Originally by: Banlish Atlas has ALOT of bones to pick with the GBC, yet we are fighting RA and XdeathX because of the space we hold. A surprisingly common statement from Atlas, Smashkill and Pure - that they are oh so much fighting against BoB, yet their fleets are stationed back home or in the drone regions. Seriously, if you guys want to play the "we want to fight BoB" card, it would help if you actually had your fleets (or at least parts of it) closer to the southwest instead of sending a few roaming pilots at best. RA wouldn't be active in the drone regions if you guys don't keep attacking the alliances there.
facepalm johnson a sackful of sacrificial sacrifices	Posted - 2007.12.06 13:45:00 - [368] Originally by: Achaiah A surprisingly common statement from Atlas, Smashkill and Pure - that they are oh so much fighting against BoB, yet their fleets are stationed back home or in the drone regions. Pure care more about eliminating FIX than they do BOB.
Thursgrim Black Bag Ops	Posted - 2007.12.06 13:51:00 - [369] Originally by: facepalm johnson Originally by: Achaiah A surprisingly common statement from Atlas, Smashkill and Pure - that they are oh so much fighting against BoB, yet their fleets are stationed back home or in the drone regions. Pure care more about eliminating FIX than they do BOB. Aha. That explains why the Pure fleet is down southwest.
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:06:00 - [370] Originally by: Achaiah Originally by: Banlish Atlas has ALOT of bones to pick with the GBC, yet we are fighting RA and XdeathX because of the space we hold. A surprisingly common statement from Atlas, Smashkill and Pure - that they are oh so much fighting against BoB, yet their fleets are stationed back home or in the drone regions. Seriously, if you guys want to play the "we want to fight BoB" card, it would help if you actually had your fleets (or at least parts of it) closer to the southwest instead of sending a few roaming pilots at best. RA wouldn't be active in the drone regions if you guys don't keep attacking the alliances there. Hello mister pretend to know what he's talking about. A large portion of atlas are ex-fla pvprs and vetrans of the FOUNTAIN CAMPAIGN, CLOUDRING CAMPAIGN, FIX CAMPAIGN and the actualy fighting in the NORTHERN DEFENCE. I did more fighting against BOB and its allies in the first 6 months of this year then some of the southern alliances have for a year now. As ATLAS, we were never set blue by some of the major powers in the Southern Coalition. So its pretty hard to bring your forces down to fight without gettin knocked out by a "friendly" gang. Personaly i am in no hurry to move 80 some jumps to sit afk at a pos and wait for a fight. I would much rather pew pew close to home. So no standings= pew pew somewhere else. If things change then whatever. I driks lot signature removed- Jacques([email protected])

dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:13:00 - [371] Originally by: Mr Broker roadkill and smash will have no mention at all in the war against bob, if anything, peoke will be seen as a traitor and bob alt and roadkill as a fool for supporting peoke Well look at dis. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST FOLKS!! Peoke is a bob alt and a traitor I seriously cant stop laughing at this. Mr Broker you are made of fail. loool I driks lot signature removed- Jacques([email protected])
Mr Broker Amarr Station Gremlings	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:17:00 - [372] sorry dastommy, being a failure will not be counted as successfull participation start taking enemy space, then come back here saying you were of any consequence, all the failing you have been doing is actually very counter productive
Wesley Baird Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:21:00 - [373] Originally by: dastommy79 Hello mister pretend to know what he's talking about. A large portion of atlas are ex-fla pvprs and vetrans of the FOUNTAIN CAMPAIGN, CLOUDRING CAMPAIGN, FIX CAMPAIGN and the actualy fighting in the NORTHERN DEFENCE. I did more fighting against BOB and its allies in the first 6 months of this year then some of the southern alliances have for a year now. As ATLAS, we were never set blue by some of the major powers in the Southern Coalition. So its pretty hard to bring your forces down to fight without gettin knocked out by a "friendly" gang. Personaly i am in no hurry to move 80 some jumps to sit afk at a pos and wait for a fight. I would much rather pew pew close to home. So no standings= pew pew somewhere else. If things change then whatever. I don't think he was referring to any one individual or corp but rather the respective alliances. Atlas is something new, and hasn't been formally part of the war, where FLA certainly was. I wouldn't take offense to the statement by Achaiah, it was a generalization of the alliances mentioned rather than corps or individual pilots...or at least that was my take... The notion that the "Great War" is not the be-all-end-all of Eve is something I believe more and more pilots are concluding...and about time I say...more wars with different groups keeps things interesting, who wants to have a massive POS grind for another year vs the same enemies as last year??? For example, we love shooting Smashkill...but after 3 weeks of it, we were sick of shooting them and they were sick of shooting us...just no fun to shoot the same people day-in-day-out...even in the pursuit of the mythical Peoke kill, it just gets boring...a years worth of POS grinding seeing the same bad guys in local...YUCK!!! I for one, hope RA and Friends go and fight with Smashkill and friends, because it would spice things up...all these stupid NAPs make 0.0 a boring place...
Hannobaal Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:21:00 - [374] Originally by: Mr Broker Originally by: Peanut Swsh So really what's with peoples obsession with killing BOB? Its like this goal that people have, but I'm really not sure why its a big deal, and I think a lot of people are just jumping on bandwagons around the place without any real reason of their own. Like some huge ***** internet spaceship witch hunt. don't worry, your alliance has never jumped on this bandwagon, in fact worked against said bandwagon by throwing a monkey wrench on three different occasions into said bandwagon's plans, frege did more in the bob war in 3 weeks than your alliance in 12 months, roadkill and smash will have no mention at all in the war against bob, if anything, peoke will be seen as a traitor and bob alt and roadkill as a fool for supporting peoke That isn't really true. They did help out in the north for a while after Razor had been pushed out of Tenal.
dasminer	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:22:00 - [375] Edited by: dasminer on 06/12/2007 14:23:13 Originally by: Mr Broker sorry dastommy, being a failure will not be counted as successfull participation start taking enemy space, then come back here saying you were of any consequence, all the failing you have been doing is actually very counter productive LOL look at you AGAIN! You win some, you lose some. The Failure here is the fact that you have to post with an alt cause your too scared to post with you main Grow some balls and maybe i would care about your opinion lol frack me this is dastommy's mining alt
Achaiah Black Bag Ops	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:26:00 - [376] Originally by: dastommy79 Hello mister pretend to know what he's talking about. A large portion of atlas are ex-fla pvprs and vetrans of the FOUNTAIN CAMPAIGN, CLOUDRING CAMPAIGN, FIX CAMPAIGN and the actualy fighting in the NORTHERN DEFENCE. I did more fighting against BOB and its allies in the first 6 months of this year then some of the southern alliances have for a year now. As ATLAS, we were never set blue by some of the major powers in the Southern Coalition. So its pretty hard to bring your forces down to fight without gettin knocked out by a "friendly" gang. Personaly i am in no hurry to move 80 some jumps to sit afk at a pos and wait for a fight. I would much rather pew pew close to home. So no standings= pew pew somewhere else. If things change then whatever. You do know I was talking about Atlas alliance and not about the history of some of your corps and what they were doing before Atlas alliance, right? What FLA and the corps that were members of it have done in the past does in no way translate over to Atlas and what they are up to in the drone regions.
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:35:00 - [377] Edited by: dastommy79 on 06/12/2007 14:39:05 ok guys i need you to read the whole post. We are not set blue by major alliances in the Southern Coaltion. So we cant really go down there and fight without gettin popped by someone we are supposed to be helping. no standings= pew pew somewhere else. If standings change then whatever. get it now? EDIT and what i have done under past corp and alliance banner carries on with me to the next place i call home. I'm very proud of what i did in the north. I driks lot signature removed- Jacques([email protected])
Orbital Drift Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:36:00 - [378] Originally by: Admiral Nova Originally by: Komolov Seriously speaking i hope we will end up in good terms because war on the South-West is not finished yet and i do not see reason why we should shift our focus to drone regions where we don't have any "true" enemies I know their was a call to arms for SMASHKill to assist in the SW this week, but what's on everyone's mind is after BoB, who next ? Last time they assisted in the war (About the time LV's titan was destroyed and were taking Detorid etc), they were rewarded with having their Cap ships (that were sieging 77s for goons), threatened to be hot dropped over an incident involving someone who wasn't in their alliance anymore, and a member of X.I.X...... That was followed up by plenty of raiding squads by RA into their HQ, and when they were repelled embarrasingly hard, a tower was erected. It's hard to trust an alliance that starts shooting allies because of something that happened between two people that are not in EITHER alliance. To clarify, the threatened hot drop of capital ships on our sieging capital ships during the 77s engagement (of which we had an a priori warning given by goonfleet followed by their subsequent mediation of the issue -- so yes, goons have lifted a finger) was instigated by a disagreement concerning the use of a nearby complex.
facepalm johnson a sackful of sacrificial sacrifices	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:44:00 - [379] Originally by: dastommy79 I'm very proud of what i did in the north. You teamed up with Chaos to run away from the Pure invasion. Much respect.
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:49:00 - [380] Originally by: facepalm johnson Originally by: dastommy79 I'm very proud of what i did in the north. You teamed up with Chaos to run away from the Pure invasion. Much respect. hi i sat in MJ for 3 weeks along with the rest of atlas/chaos. When my ship got dead, i would go to jita, buy and fit a new one, and wait a couple jumps out from MJ for a counter attack. I'm guesing your a share holder that didnt like the peace agreament. bitter much? OMG alts making ** up are comeing out of the woodwork this morning. this is fun, someone else make ** up I driks lot signature removed- Jacques([email protected])

Digicomm The Digital Communists	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:52:00 - [381] Alts...who. Sup Dastocakes. Like my new siggie. sup?
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:54:00 - [382] Originally by: Digicomm Alts...who. Sup Dastocakes. Like my new siggie. sup Its sexeh. Can you do me a favor and make stuff up and post it here. tia I driks lot signature removed- Jacques([email protected])
Banlish Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:59:00 - [383] Originally by: Achaiah Originally by: dastommy79 Hello mister pretend to know what he's talking about. A large portion of atlas are ex-fla pvprs and vetrans of the FOUNTAIN CAMPAIGN, CLOUDRING CAMPAIGN, FIX CAMPAIGN and the actualy fighting in the NORTHERN DEFENCE. I did more fighting against BOB and its allies in the first 6 months of this year then some of the southern alliances have for a year now. As ATLAS, we were never set blue by some of the major powers in the Southern Coalition. So its pretty hard to bring your forces down to fight without gettin knocked out by a "friendly" gang. Personaly i am in no hurry to move 80 some jumps to sit afk at a pos and wait for a fight. I would much rather pew pew close to home. So no standings= pew pew somewhere else. If things change then whatever. You do know I was talking about Atlas alliance and not about the history of some of your corps and what they were doing before Atlas alliance, right? What FLA and the corps that were members of it have done in the past does in no way translate over to Atlas and what they are up to in the drone regions. Here's where your wrong. Atlas was formed by 4 corps. Of those 4 corps all four were part of FLA. 3 of those corps led the FLA killboards for our ENTIRE time in fla (7+ months in almost all cases) the admiral for all 4 campaigns is a member of DTHI/ATLAS. I'm not say the corps in ATLAS were the ONLY ones fighting when part of FLA, no way in hell, there were alot of good people in FLA that we fought side by side with to try to make that herd of cats work. But every single person that actually fought in those campaigns, fought those battles, and bled like crazy knew that we three corps were the ones that carried those campaigns. We have all of our enemies kill boards as proof for the losses and kills we dealt and received. You say that the corps that were members of FLA, and what we did in the past don't matter. Bullsht. We fought every freaking member of the GBC from the trash of Xelas to the top end of MC and BoB. We fought till our last gangs of less then a dozen ships were being Doomsdayed by MC because we wouldn't give up. You say what we did before doesn't carry over, I say it's EXACTLY* what matters. We got messages from a few of our opponents up north, every single one of them were respect for the way we refused to give up the fight, dug in and fought for all we were worth. I still have the storm armada and Mercenary Coalition mails because it was a mutual respect that formed from the mud and blood we fought over. Some of the corps here have absorbed other smaller corps from FLA that actually fought tooth and nail for their homes and against GBC. If you think that doesn't mean something, your 100% wrong. I've never been prouder of an alliance as I am of ATLAS. You might hem and haw about how we're in the drone regions fighting and rubbing into neighbors. But, just like dastommy said. We're NOT all blue to much of the southern coalition. We also have tried to be and couldn't get the standings. When we also had roaming enemies from the southern coalition in our space while we were rebuilding, yeah. That stops the process of going out and sending fleets. Not a secret, we have a large amount of blood to repay to GBC. But are we going to go 80 jumps to do it, when we can't get standings from the majority of the southern bloc and leave their allies/renters to run rampant through our space? Would you?
Banlish Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.06 15:02:00 - [384] Originally by: facepalm johnson Originally by: dastommy79 I'm very proud of what i did in the north. You teamed up with Chaos to run away from the Pure invasion. Much respect. If by running away you mean digging in, bringing out capital fleet to bear right into the teeth of PURE.'s and forging a mutual nap because of refusing to give up. Then yes. You the alt who can't post with his main because of fear, have it right. Pure and Atlas/Chaos had a tussle. Pure. will tell ya, we didn't run. We have a mutual respect because of it.
Digicomm The Digital Communists	Posted - 2007.12.06 15:17:00 - [385] I like pure. They have nads. Major props for not acting like the other Drone region naptards and running to your daddy for protection. Saaad state of affairs when the mighty Coalition are starting to have pets. Your starting to make the GBC look pretty normal. sup?
dor amwar Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.12.06 15:19:00 - [386] Originally by: Mr Broker Originally by: Hannobaal That isn't really true. They did help out in the north for a while after Razor had been pushed out of Tenal. nice troll? they only came at the end when the new north was already crumbling at the sight of blobs, they got a few shots in, got the "I WAS HERE" t-shirt and left back to meddle in the drone regions don't pet the troll folks.
Peanut Swsh Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.12.06 15:20:00 - [387] Originally by: Mr Broker Originally by: Peanut Swsh So really what's with peoples obsession with killing BOB? Its like this goal that people have, but I'm really not sure why its a big deal, and I think a lot of people are just jumping on bandwagons around the place without any real reason of their own. Like some huge ***** internet spaceship witch hunt. don't worry, your alliance has never jumped on this bandwagon, in fact worked against said bandwagon by throwing a monkey wrench on three different occasions into said bandwagon's plans, frege did more in the bob war in 3 weeks than your alliance in 12 months, roadkill and smash will have no mention at all in the war against bob, if anything, peoke will be seen as a traitor and bob alt and roadkill as a fool for supporting peoke I can remember helping the swarm chase LV out of wherever they used to live, and we were gonna be there for longer until RA decided to set us red over an incident which was their own fault, you can see why we were apprehensive to help again. Also I think after that embarrassment RA never wanted our help again, which kinda makes it hard for us to go help, if they don't want us there. We also turned up to help push the GBC forces out of the north, and I'm not sure what happened but i think the first time we showed up we killed 8 hostile carriers in one engagement, and then the second time we showed up, the GBC forces surrendered. Whether or not that was due to us, I don't know. But as far as I know from that engagement, noone not even their allies expected M.Pire to fold. FREGE? their contribution to the bob war was laughable at best. No offense to FREGE I had a lot of fun fighting them, but they were more of an annoyance to bob then a credible threat. Anyway, we just killed their carebears, all the core players are still around, and I'm sure they are out there doing their bit to kill BOB. As I stated previously, people don't just disappear, so all the fregelets are probably just under a different name, but still fighting the same fight. If anything we did FREGE a favour. Peoke a traitor? A traitor to who exactly? To your team? the anti-bob team? Again, with the anti-bob bandwagon, obviously all members of the above mentioned bandwagon are the good guys and are right and everything. But hey, I don't pretend to understand peoke or know what his intentions are, I just find your viewpoint laughable.
Mr Broker Amarr Station Gremlings	Posted - 2007.12.06 15:23:00 - [388] pierre miniac, terrible troll, try harder with more capital letters
Hannobaal Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.06 15:24:00 - [389] Originally by: Mr Broker Originally by: Hannobaal That isn't really true. They did help out in the north for a while after Razor had been pushed out of Tenal. nice troll? they only came at the end when the new north was already crumbling at the sight of blobs, they got a few shots in, got the "I WAS HERE" t-shirt and left back to meddle in the drone regions No, RK starting helping out in the north right after Razor were pushed out of Tenal and MC withdrew. That was long, long before the part you're talking about. I don't really like RK and Smash very much, but this is the truth.
Peanut Swsh Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.12.06 15:37:00 - [390] The real question is, why should we fight for RSF? Sure we might if we feel like it, because we want to pvp, but having to travel 40 jumps for it? No thanks. Also what have RSF ever done to help us? They have done nothing to help us. Whereas we have helped them at certain stages in their fight vs the GBC. So really, if we go fight for them, what are we acheiving? making ourselves their lapdogs?



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