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Simplus Massive	Posted - 2007.12.06 17:02:00 - [31] Originally by: Greylin ok another question do I turn HDR on in the game or no? my game crashes if I try to run it in fullscreen and I'm not sure if its doing anything in windowed. But if I turn HDR on in windowed my AA definatly goes away and I think my nHancer settings are correct Turn HDR off in EVE & let nHancer do the work. Also, with these settings, I've noticed that when I launch EVE, the AA is not activated. Just 'Esc' out & hit one of the apply buttons in the graphics settings without doing any changes, 'Esc' out again. That should do it.
Greylin	Posted - 2007.12.06 17:25:00 - [32] ok now I added the evefile.exe to the profile in nHancer for eve and it seems to be forcing me into fullscreen mode and i cant change it. any way to fix this?
Simplus Massive	Posted - 2007.12.06 17:47:00 - [33] Edited by: Simplus Massive on 06/12/2007 17:49:05 That sounds weird, you sure it's nHancer forcing this? Friend of mine had similar things happening & was ****ed at the EVE Launcher app not letting him keep EVE maximized with the "Semi-full screen" mode using a dual screen setup (client minimizes if running fullscreen & clicking on secondary display window). Turns out he constantly forgot to press "Apply" when setting window-mode in the EVE graphics configuration :) I'm not saying you are doing something similar, just asking if you think you've eliminated the most obvious (and therefore maybe easily overlooked) possibilties since I've never heard nHancer can even force a resolution?
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2007.12.06 18:47:00 - [34] Originally by: Simplus Massive Turn HDR off in EVE & let nHancer do the work. Do you notice any difference in Eve performance depending on where the HDR is activated? The reason I ask is that pre-Trinity EVE gave me better framerates if FSAA was activated via the drivers vs. Eve's graphics settings. ...
Emerald Cortess Caldari Konstrukteure der Zukunft	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:23:00 - [35] Hello there! I want to have both HDR and AA. It works fine with nhancer, but ONLY in fullscreen. Any ideas what i can try to get it to work in windowed mode? Reason is, that i love to use semi-fullscreen through eve-launcher. Thanks in Advance!
Sivlar Sylvannathas Gallente Placid Reborn Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:43:00 - [36] Have not checked yet, but won't the NVidia control panel work for this? If you force those settings under the program/game list?
Guillame Herschel Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:46:00 - [37] I use nHancer, too, and set it for 16x CSAA and 8x super-sampled transparency AA. I use Normal shadows and Low bloom. I get between 40-60fps when sitting in a large POS bubble with all the POS modules about, and that's about as "bad" as it gets. I get 60-70fps in other places, including Jita 4-4 undock, and over 100fps in station. screenies System specs: Opteron 185 dual core 2.6Ghz AMD64 nForce4 Ultra m/b with 2Gb DDR400 8800GTX with 768 Mb DDR3 -- Guile can always trump hardware --
Guillame Herschel Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.12.06 19:49:00 - [38] Originally by: Emerald Cortess Hello there! I want to have both HDR and AA. It works fine with nhancer, but ONLY in fullscreen. That's odd, the first time I ran EVE Trinity (TQ) under nHancer, it opened in windowed mode, but I prefer full screen. It was no big deal though, alt+enter toggles between full and windowed, no problem. -- Guile can always trump hardware --
Emerald Cortess Caldari Konstrukteure der Zukunft	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:10:00 - [39] hm... when i choose "supersampling 4x S" it's all fine in fullscreen, but kind of wierd in windowed mode... i mean, it DOES something... it all looks kind of softer, but more like running a tft with a lower resolution than the native one.
Simplus Massive	Posted - 2007.12.06 20:31:00 - [40] Originally by: Razin Originally by: Simplus Massive Turn HDR off in EVE & let nHancer do the work. Do you notice any difference in Eve performance depending on where the HDR is activated? The reason I ask is that pre-Trinity EVE gave me better framerates if FSAA was activated via the drivers vs. Eve's graphics settings. No, I cannot activate HDR ingame since it then turns off any AA set through the drivers. The only way to get HDRI working for me has been to disable it in EVE & force it with the nHancer Oblivion trick. Neither have I performed any benchmarking running only with HDRI (shifting between nHancer/EVE HDRI) & no AA since in my opinion, AA is a visual requirement to enjoy this games graphics to it's fullest. I simply cannot stand ugly jaggiez. Originally by: Emerald Cortess Hello there! I want to have both HDR and AA. It works fine with nhancer, but ONLY in fullscreen. Any ideas what i can try to get it to work in windowed mode? Reason is, that i love to use semi-fullscreen through eve-launcher. Thanks in Advance! I have had no problems (ie. few problems) running windowed or semi windowed through EVE Launcher. I just hit escape, and then escape again at the logon screen if I notice that AA is not active (easy to see near the planet/starlight). This seems to pair up the AA with HDRI & the jaggiez are gone.
Emerald Cortess Caldari Konstrukteure der Zukunft	Posted - 2007.12.06 21:01:00 - [41] Ok, i made something wrong. I had HDR activated in Eve. But also in nhancer. But it still don't work! So: fullscreen + hdr in eve + aa = works window + hdr in eve + aa = don't works window + no hdr in eve + aa = works window + no hdr in eve + hdr over nhancer = aa yes, but no hdr Pressing ESC doesn't change anything...
TomParad0x Caldari Angels of the Apocolypse	Posted - 2007.12.06 21:22:00 - [42] Originally by: Guillame Herschel I use nHancer, too, and set it for 16x CSAA and 8x super-sampled transparency AA. I use Normal shadows and Low bloom. I get between 40-60fps when sitting in a large POS bubble with all the POS modules about, and that's about as "bad" as it gets. I get 60-70fps in other places, including Jita 4-4 undock, and over 100fps in station. screenies System specs: Opteron 185 dual core 2.6Ghz AMD64 nForce4 Ultra m/b with 2Gb DDR400 8800GTX with 768 Mb DDR3 How hot does your 8800GTX run though, with nHancer and EVE going?
Mallikan Gallente Spartan Hoplites Rare Faction	Posted - 2007.12.06 21:47:00 - [43] This.. is simply not working. --- lol.. I messed up.
FawKa Gallente x13	Posted - 2007.12.06 22:01:00 - [44] Originally by: TomParad0x Originally by: Guillame Herschel I use nHancer, too, and set it for 16x CSAA and 8x super-sampled transparency AA. I use Normal shadows and Low bloom. I get between 40-60fps when sitting in a large POS bubble with all the POS modules about, and that's about as "bad" as it gets. I get 60-70fps in other places, including Jita 4-4 undock, and over 100fps in station. screenies System specs: Opteron 185 dual core 2.6Ghz AMD64 nForce4 Ultra m/b with 2Gb DDR400 8800GTX with 768 Mb DDR3 How hot does your 8800GTX run though, with nHancer and EVE going? Just fine , keep shadows at high tho or you lose 50FPS in station - - - Signature - - - For Sisi; Running: 8800 GTX 640mb, 4 GB ram, quad core Q6600, creative x-fi, ASUS striker exstreme MB, windows vista, 1680x1050 fullscreen,
Eraggan Sadarr Phoenix Tribe	Posted - 2007.12.06 22:16:00 - [45] Edited by: Eraggan Sadarr on 06/12/2007 22:18:22 Ok guys i'll post links to screens of my settings Note: I have HDR enabled both in eve and in nhancer. Eve settings: Linkage nHancer Enhancement tab: Linkage nHancer Optimizations tab: Linkage nHancer Compatibility tab: Linkage I get around 30-40 fps in station depending on ship model. In space i have roughly the same... Thats it Eve Market Scanner
FawKa Gallente x13	Posted - 2007.12.06 22:33:00 - [46] Originally by: Eraggan Sadarr Edited by: Eraggan Sadarr on 06/12/2007 22:18:22 Ok guys i'll post links to screens of my settings Note: I have HDR enabled both in eve and in nhancer. Eve settings: Linkage nHancer Enhancement tab: Linkage nHancer Optimizations tab: Linkage nHancer Compatibility tab: Linkage I get around 30-40 fps in station depending on ship model. In space i have roughly the same... Thats it need your comp setup and OS system mate - - - Signature - - - For Sisi; Running: 8800 GTX 640mb, 4 GB ram, quad core Q6600, creative x-fi, ASUS striker exstreme MB, windows vista, 1680x1050 fullscreen,
Cloudheart	Posted - 2007.12.06 22:48:00 - [47] In Vista, I had to use global settings in nhancer rather than profile specific ones just to get this to work. Also, strangely, AA didn't work unless I had HDR turned on as well - possibly from selection of Oblivion compat mode.
Rekona	Posted - 2007.12.06 23:13:00 - [48] Edited by: Rekona on 06/12/2007 23:13:33 I can't even install nHancer. Get some sort of error like this . ----------- "EDIT: Bah I can't seem to install it it keeps saying it can't find disk1.cab EDIT 2: Ok if your getting an error saying it can't find disk1.cab do the following... Try to install when you get the "can't find disk1.cab" error don't click cancel instead go to C:\Documents and Settings\your user name\Application Data\Kornd÷rfer Software Engineering\nHancer\install Copy the files "nhancer.exe & disk1.cab to the desktop click cancel on the error message and install the files from the desktop it should now install as usual " ---------------------------------- They've posted a solution on this board http://www.rage3d.com/Board/showthread.php?p=1335172232 . However I cannot locate those files and as such can't still cannot active Antialiasing in EVE. sighs
Simplus Massive	Posted - 2007.12.06 23:59:00 - [49] Originally by: Rekona Edited by: Rekona on 06/12/2007 23:13:33 I can't even install nHancer. Now, I don't know if you are running XP or Vista but I searched the registry on my own Vista machine, and it turns out that these files: disk1.cab nHancer.msi are actually located under: C:\Users\[USERNAME]\AppData\Roaming\KSE\nHancer\install so my bet is that if you are running XP, they would be located here: C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Application Data\KSE\nHancer\install Hope this helps.
Shana Lioni	Posted - 2007.12.07 04:03:00 - [50] Originally by: Eraggan Sadarr Edited by: Eraggan Sadarr on 06/12/2007 22:18:22 Ok guys i'll post links to screens of my settings Note: I have HDR enabled both in eve and in nhancer. Eve settings: Linkage nHancer Enhancement tab: Linkage nHancer Optimizations tab: Linkage nHancer Compatibility tab: Linkage I get around 30-40 fps in station depending on ship model. In space i have roughly the same... Thats it Im using these setting on my rig. Seeing about 53-55fps in and out of stations. 8800GTX 768, E6600, 2GB Ram.
Rekona	Posted - 2007.12.07 07:37:00 - [51] Okay I was able to install nHancer. One of those screenshots has a "DISABLED PREDEFINED PROFILE". How do you disable a profile? http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=evenhancer02fc6.png then I need to make another profile with those settings for EVE right?
Rekona	Posted - 2007.12.07 07:53:00 - [52] I've created another profile for Eve Online in nHancer and used the settings of Erragan Saddar, but the predefined profile by Nvidia doesn't disable itself.
Rekona	Posted - 2007.12.07 08:02:00 - [53] I had to duplicate the predefined profile to disable it anyway it still doesn't work. Maybe it's not so compatible with 8800 cards for anti Aliasing.
Corporation Manager	Posted - 2007.12.07 08:05:00 - [54] I have a 8600GT 256mb, 2,2ghz core2duo and 2gb ram and im only getting 30-45fps at gates with only a few npc present. It helps a little bit to use fullscreen but my question is, can i expect more performance from my hardware?
Denyan	Posted - 2007.12.07 09:26:00 - [55] i dont understand, with or without enhancer, in fullscreen or window mode, cant use AA... without HDR, the same result... ARG! XD My system: AMD dual core 5200+, nforce 570sli, 2GB DDR2-800 and Geforce 8800GTS 320MB... is normal this?
Eraggan Sadarr Phoenix Tribe	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:10:00 - [56] Edited by: Eraggan Sadarr on 07/12/2007 11:11:55 Originally by: FawKa need your comp setup and OS system mate Posted earlier Originally by: Eraggan Sadarr Well, i havn't had time to do some dumps of my settings since last post. But my machine specs are: Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3.4 GHz OC 2GB Corsair terminator Geforce 8800GTS 640MB version OS: Windows XP Running at 2x(1600x1200) Dual monitor. Eve running full screen on primary monitor. Eve settings: Shadows: High Cache: extreme HDR: enabled ... doh Bloom: high (Remember that bloom is resolution dependent and not scene complexity dependent) But i noticed when i installed the full version of trinity for TQ that i had to mess around with the settings a bit before i got it to nice AA and HDR actually working. I'm not too fond of my fps though... i get around 30-35fps inside and outside of station, but i havnt tried it with several ships on TQ. Will post some screens of my nhancer settings when i get home tonight. BTW: I know of no fix for ATI...sorry nHancer version is 2.3.2 Eve Market Scanner
Brandon Boyd	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:51:00 - [57] Had to turn off HDR via the Client and force it through nHancer to get AA32S windowed. Works like a charm (even on Vista64) and looks absolutely stunning. Thanks alot.
Petra McPook	Posted - 2007.12.07 13:03:00 - [58] Originally by: IceAero A little note on getting this to work.... (Because I could not get it to work all day) But I think I know why =) It needs to be pointed to 'evefile.exe' not the 'eve.exe' that it defaults too! Or am I nuts? =p Dunno if you're nuts mate but I gotta say, I can't even FIND an evefile.exe file in my XP installation. Any ideas?
Greme Amarr Slacker Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.12.07 13:24:00 - [59] The Oblivion HDR compatability seems to kill my AA......no idea why.
Eraggan Sadarr Phoenix Tribe	Posted - 2007.12.07 13:31:00 - [60] Originally by: Petra McPook Dunno if you're nuts mate but I gotta say, I can't even FIND an evefile.exe file in my XP installation. Any ideas? Its called "ExeFile.exe" and is located in the "bin" folder of your eve installation.

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