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Koredor Veni Vidi Vici. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 02:09:00 - [31] Originally by: Peoke blah blah blah. youd figure sooner or later the low sec bordering our 0.0 would come under our control and the moons would be cleaned. well if he tried to ransom you okay. but your lucky hes doing it and not me. so if you cant handle a single corp shooting your low sec pos then get back to empire. All your smack here just means ima send smashkill Quote that to kill all your pos.
Caffeine Junkie Caldari Veni Vidi Vici. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 02:20:00 - [32] Well I think this thread and your corp have something in common. They're both finished.
SuNnY l3oNe Veni Vidi Vici. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 02:27:00 - [33] Originally by: Caffeine Junkie Well I think this thread and your corp have something in common. They're both finished. Now that is funny, I don't care who you are! Do Not Complain if I pop you, that'll just make your humiliation worse!
Sandman 17 Veni Vidi Vici. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 03:40:00 - [34] Originally by: SuNnY l3oNe Originally by: Caffeine Junkie Well I think this thread and your corp have something in common. They're both finished. Now that is funny, I don't care who you are! Lord, I apologize. Please be with the pygmies in Africa and the carebear corps.
zilllii Squirrel Power	Posted - 2007.12.07 10:57:00 - [35] Originally by: Koredor Edited by: Koredor on 06/12/2007 00:43:41 We do not ransom. We did not want your pos down. We know you will deploy bigger pos's which you already have I sent you a mail with the offending members and yet they are still in your corp. However, As you want to cry on the forums about it. Your pos's wont be allowed to be packed up Poor newbie cant fight his own battle ? EDIT: How many of your pos were put into reinforced 3-5?, You did not even try and defend them! funny stuff, im sure that no smash member ever behaved badly verbally to any other pilot?
Koredor Veni Vidi Vici. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:56:00 - [36] Originally by: zilllii Originally by: Koredor Edited by: Koredor on 06/12/2007 00:43:41 We do not ransom. We did not want your pos down. We know you will deploy bigger pos's which you already have I sent you a mail with the offending members and yet they are still in your corp. However, As you want to cry on the forums about it. Your pos's wont be allowed to be packed up Poor newbie cant fight his own battle ? EDIT: How many of your pos were put into reinforced 3-5?, You did not even try and defend them! funny stuff, im sure that no smash member ever behaved badly verbally to any other pilot? And you are ?
Phoenicia Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.12.07 13:22:00 - [37] Originally by: Koredor And you are ? Zilllii, in my opinion, is someone who asked a fair question. I don't see any alliance going "Oh okay, sorry for the smack, here's 1.5 bil" to anyone. And I'm quite sure your corporation doesn't refund smack either. So I'm curious how you're gonna answer the question.
SuNnY l3oNe Veni Vidi Vici. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 14:30:00 - [38] Originally by: Phoenicia Originally by: Koredor And you are ? Zilllii, in my opinion, is someone who asked a fair question. I don't see any alliance going "Oh okay, sorry for the smack, here's 1.5 bil" to anyone. And I'm quite sure your corporation doesn't refund smack either. So I'm curious how you're gonna answer the question. Actually, the 1.5 is to keep us from ganking every POS they own. Furthermore, it is not only smack talk that has started this mini campaign of ours. We do not have to explain ourselves for any reason. These things we do because we can! Do Not Complain if I pop you, that'll just make your humiliation worse!
Koredor Veni Vidi Vici. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 15:07:00 - [39] Originally by: Phoenicia Originally by: Koredor And you are ? Zilllii, in my opinion, is someone who asked a fair question. I don't see any alliance going "Oh okay, sorry for the smack, here's 1.5 bil" to anyone. And I'm quite sure your corporation doesn't refund smack either. So I'm curious how you're gonna answer the question. Once you have actually read this thread, you will be able to answer your own question.
Dasfry Caldari Demio's Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.07 16:13:00 - [40] Koredor, I spoke with Murk Loar and he says he's never even spoken with you before. That what you claim he says, was never said. Once I see the other ones online I'll ask them as well. . Dasfry, CEO Demios Corporation

SuNnY l3oNe Veni Vidi Vici. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 16:50:00 - [41] Originally by: Dasfry Koredor, I spoke with Murk Loar and he says he's never even spoken with you before. That what you claim he says, was never said. Once I see the other ones online I'll ask them as well. To be honest, we are not interested in what anything your corp members say. We will continue with our plans, maybe you should make some of your own. I hear Jita is a nice safe area to reside..... no chances of anyone getting popped short of a war dec! Do Not Complain if I pop you, that'll just make your humiliation worse!
Dasfry Caldari Demio's Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.07 17:11:00 - [42] SuNnY l3oNe, I really doubt there was an insult to begin with. I mean its eve online you don't need a reason to attack someone. Why not just say "we attacked you because we wanted to." I would have a lot more respect for a group that just said that. I already know what your gonna say we dont care about your respect. lol . Dasfry, CEO Demios Corporation
SuNnY l3oNe Veni Vidi Vici. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 18:32:00 - [43] Originally by: Dasfry SuNnY l3oNe, I really doubt there was an insult to begin with. I mean its eve online you don't need a reason to attack someone. Why not just say "we attacked you because we wanted to." I would have a lot more respect for a group that just said that. I already know what your gonna say we dont care about your respect. lol Actually there was an insult and an attempted attack on one of our members....Caffeine Junkie. That just made our decision that much easier. We do not want your respect mate. We want to destroy everything your corp owns. I think that should be quite evident with your recent losses you and your corp suffered today. The fact that you brought your pathetic struggle to the Eve-online forums just fuels us more. We enjoy popping your assets, it is great entertainment. After all this is just a game right and entertainment is the ultimate goal in the end.. Do Not Complain if I pop you, that'll just make your humiliation worse!
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.12.07 18:34:00 - [44] RABBLE RABBLE.... btw \o V2 guys. -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp -Corp Public Channel = The T Public -Alliance Public = kos-public
creepervision Veni Vidi Vici. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 18:36:00 - [45] Dasfry, Please stop crying. My god stop. Look at it like this, we got our first pos killmail from killing your tower. Dasfry=
Koredor Veni Vidi Vici. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 19:00:00 - [46] Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson RABBLE RABBLE.... btw \o V2 guys. o/ Khirzan, How ya been mate ? Dasfry, I hope you dont lose to many members over this
Seyk Terran Second Fleet of Homogeneous Clarity Crimson Empire.	Posted - 2007.12.07 21:44:00 - [47] Originally by: SuNnY l3oNe Originally by: Dasfry SuNnY l3oNe, I really doubt there was an insult to begin with. I mean its eve online you don't need a reason to attack someone. Why not just say "we attacked you because we wanted to." I would have a lot more respect for a group that just said that. I already know what your gonna say we dont care about your respect. lol Actually there was an insult and an attempted attack on one of our members....Caffeine Junkie. That just made our decision that much easier. We do not want your respect mate. We want to destroy everything your corp owns. I think that should be quite evident with your recent losses you and your corp suffered today. The fact that you brought your pathetic struggle to the Eve-online forums just fuels us more. We enjoy popping your assets, it is great entertainment. After all this is just a game right and entertainment is the ultimate goal in the end.. Haha... I like how this started out as "give me 1.5b isk cause your corpy hurt my feelings" and has now evolved to "your corpy hurt our feelings AND attacked us... we just forgot to mention that earlier... and now we're going to kill you all!!" This definitely sounds like a ransom attempt gone bad... but I could be wrong. Eve-forums aren't exactly a great source for information. But hey, if I had a bigger ship than the guy next to me and I was in 0.0 I'd probably cap him too, then demand isk for his SP Muahahahaha!! The pirate within me awakes! _.-=~***~=-._.-=~*~=-._.-=~**~=-._ "Only silly people mine into jet-cans... silly silly people"* -me
tchamp2	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:09:00 - [48] Edited by: tchamp2 on 07/12/2007 22:12:14 What I don't understand is why anyone considers it strange or odd that people would ransom you to begin with. Let's say we did - then say no or pay. And if we want to be offended because one of yours smacktalked us or killed one of us, so be it. Eve is like life, love it or not. Either way, I love to gank, and gank I shall. Sometimes I fall, but others I stand over the dead ship. Fun, fun, fun until CCP takes the EVE away. Dasfry is primary. Mostly because I can. W00t. Chief (British word for Cigs here) Officer OUT! ----- I need a cool sig like my fellow corpies, until then: ____ _____ ______________ ____ ____ ______ / _ \| / ___// ____/ _/ _/ / _ \| / __ \/_ __/ / /_\| \| \__ \/ / / / / / / /_\| \| / /_/ / / / / /__\| \| __/ / /___ / / / / / /__\| \|/ / / / / / /_/ \|_/____/\____/___/___/ /_/ \|_/_/ \|_\| /_/
Tarkin8 Caldari DOWN THE PIPE	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:48:00 - [49] Edited by: Tarkin8 on 07/12/2007 22:53:45 lets start cappin people!!! ebil yarr what is going on here? why have no goon posted? there is no thread tc i would get a sig like the rest. isnt exactly creative
dralid House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:52:00 - [50] Smashkill has lost my respect -- Where do the wild roses grow?

JUL1ET	Posted - 2007.12.07 22:55:00 - [51] Originally by: dralid Smashkill has lost my respect and you have lost mine
Serafeim Odessa Operations Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.08 19:05:00 - [52] Edited by: Serafeim on 08/12/2007 19:07:28 After having read the whole post im amazed by it all. 1)Demio's Corperation members smack talking to V2 members. 2)V2 attack Demio's Corp pos' 3)Koredor sends a "randsom" mail to dasfry 4)Koredor and Dasfry talk about it with each having different versions of the converstation. 5)Dasfry and v2 verbally fight it out on here. Firstly, why did v2 attack Demio's corperations pos' before talking to them? surely that would have been the best way to sort the situation. Secondly, Koredor doesnt dispute the mail, sunny does and then both say its not a randsom. yet later on sunny says it is a randsom?!. Sounds to me like this fight was going to happen no matter what happened wiht regards to the smack talk and v2 dont seem to be able to make their minds up about what they want out if it. Also, seeing as this started due to smack talk i find it amazing that Dasfry is the only member of his corp talking here and yet v2 seem to have 3 or so members all talking, and not necessarilly nicely. Note: Anything in this post does not express the views of my corperation or alliance in anyway way.
dnmn61	Posted - 2007.12.08 22:46:00 - [53] LMAO apparently Smash doesnt know what a ransom is.
Calypte Costae Veni Vidi Vici. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.09 12:22:00 - [54] Originally by: dnmn61 LMAO apparently Smash doesnt know what a ransom is. You dont seem to either. I would suggest going over that wiki page and actually reading what a ransom is, THEN see what was actually done. You will find we did not ransom. So please, Get out troll.
Serafeim Odessa Operations Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.09 14:42:00 - [55] Edited by: Serafeim on 09/12/2007 14:43:23 Taken from wiki. Quote: "Ransom is the practice of holding a prisoner to extort money or property to secure their release, or it can refer to the sum of money involved. It also refers to demanding concessions from a person or organization by threatening damaging action." So your saying that you didnt random Demio's corperations POS'? Putting their POS' into reinforced and then asking for money to prevent you popping them is quite definately a ransom.
JUL1ET	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:42:00 - [56] lol you should read through the posts carefully and you will see what the money was for. it was not a ransom, how many times does that have to be said until you guys understand that ? lol But seriously, This thread is getting boring. Maybe we should have a Click
dnmn61	Posted - 2007.12.09 17:56:00 - [57] Originally by: Calypte Costae Originally by: dnmn61 LMAO apparently Smash doesnt know what a ransom is. You dont seem to either. I would suggest going over that wiki page and actually reading what a ransom is, THEN see what was actually done. You will find we did not ransom. So please, Get out troll. According to Dictionary.com: Ramsom is the "The release of property or a person in return for payment of a demanded price." "So we pop ur POS's if you dont give us money" is not a Ransom? Seriously you must learn how to read. Just an idea
dnmn61	Posted - 2007.12.09 18:39:00 - [58] Originally by: SuNnY l3oNe Originally by: Phoenicia Originally by: Koredor And you are ? Zilllii, in my opinion, is someone who asked a fair question. I don't see any alliance going "Oh okay, sorry for the smack, here's 1.5 bil" to anyone. And I'm quite sure your corporation doesn't refund smack either. So I'm curious how you're gonna answer the question. Actually, the 1.5 is to keep us from ganking every POS they own. Furthermore, it is not only smack talk that has started this mini campaign of ours. We do not have to explain ourselves for any reason. These things we do because we can! not a ransom????
Phoenicia Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.12.10 08:47:00 - [59] Originally by: dnmn61 Originally by: SuNnY l3oNe Actually, the 1.5 is to keep us from ganking every POS they own. Furthermore, it is not only smack talk that has started this mini campaign of ours. We do not have to explain ourselves for any reason. These things we do because we can! not a ransom???? It's a new department: "Creative procurement and sales of assets not originally ours to begin with"
Succub	Posted - 2007.12.10 13:46:00 - [60] Originally by: dnmn61 not a ransom???? Actualy no. Ransom is when you take hostage and threat to kill him, if someone does not pay up. And since there is no hostages involved, its not a ransome. What they do sometimes called "extortion". meaning they demand money through intimidation. Refraining from doing harm is sometimes euphemistically called "protection". Or you can also call it "war reparations". This is a money usualy demanded from loser (of war, OP in this case) to cover expenses of the winning side, in exchange for ceasing hostilities. Or you can call it "retribution". Acording to them, their members were insulted, and they started a war. So this is a punishment they chose for you. They even gave a choice - killing POS'es or 1.5BiL. Anyway calling it "ransom" is a bit stupid. Can choose any other word :) Anyway its a valid thing to do imo, if thats how they choose to play. This is what EVE is about. I see little point in whining when you got attacked, you loosing war, and you got offered a truce for a small price. Instead you are trying to present their actions like they are immoral and bad. Weak defense imo. Thnx for the good read tho :)



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