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Elipsis
Gallente
The Mission Guys
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Posted - 2007.12.06 03:24:00 -
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I started the premium content download before realizing that my roommate was bringing the entire file home on a USB key in a few hours.
I decided that I would wait for him to bring the file home, so I started playing something else.
Even though EVE was closed, my network connection (not just from my machine, but the entire house) was saturated.
Using SysInternals TCPview, I saw a connection that was repeatedly opening in SVCHOST.exe to different 208.111.160.* addresses.
After more investigation I uninstalled EVE entirely and rebooted. Unfortunately my network connection was still saturated. The instant my machine rebooted the entire house experienced bad latency again.
EVE was gone. The DNA torrent client was also gone, but BITS continued to transfer the file stealthily, the only indication that any transfer was going on was the latency throughout my house and the report from TCPView of the connection from SVCHost.exe which reappeared every time my machine was rebooted, even after I killed it initially.
I searched the dark corners of the Internet and finally found a way to stop the EVE transfer that had embedded itself in my machine.
Microsoft puts out a set of support tools, including something called bitsadmin.exe - this is what I had to use to stop the transfer. Below is a log of the command line application:
C:\Program Files\Support Tools>bitsadmin.exe /list
BITSADMIN version 2.0 [ 6.6.2600.2180 ]
BITS administration utility.
(C) Copyright 2000-2004 Microsoft Corp.
{2045CC62-FAE1-4694-8ABD-CDEB0E5376A0} EveContentUpgrade TRANSFERRING 0 / 1 4829
07398 / 613319832
Listed 1 job(s).
C:\Program Files\Support Tools>
C:\Program Files\Support Tools>bitsadmin.exe /cancel EveContentUpgrade
BITSADMIN version 2.0 [ 6.6.2600.2180 ]
BITS administration utility.
(C) Copyright 2000-2004 Microsoft Corp.
Job canceled.
After I did this everything was returned to normal.
BITS is awful, and the BITS client should not continue to download the update after every semblance of the EVE client is gone. 
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Steph Wing
Gallente
The Graduates
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.06 03:28:00 -
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Cyberstrike2027
Gallente
Galactic Savings and Investments
The Galactic Equity Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.12.06 03:38:00 -
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shame it can't spell cancelled 
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Thraaies
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.12.06 03:41:00 -
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Actualy they stated many months back that it was going to use Bits to download the file in the background.
What is more sad is that 90% of the people missed the patch file on the download page that takes you from the classic client upto the Prem client. Its been there since the min the servers went live.
Works like a charm also since its jsut a 500 or so meg patch.
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.06 03:44:00 -
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We've said for many months before the release that BITS is deadly on home networks.
Someone in CCP didn't read the documentation and still used BITS. Shame.
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Jameroz
Art of War
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Posted - 2007.12.06 03:46:00 -
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What about the stop/pause button in Eve client itself 
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d1v1n1ty
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Posted - 2007.12.06 03:47:00 -
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Edited by: d1v1n1ty on 06/12/2007 03:47:43
 Originally by: Thraaies
Actualy they stated many months back that it was going to use Bits to download the file in the background.
What is more sad is that 90% of the people missed the patch file on the download page that takes you from the classic client upto the Prem client. Its been there since the min the servers went live.
Works like a charm also since its jsut a 500 or so meg patch.
Surprisingly, it isn't on the login page like it was on Sisi... Oh...the prem patch link that is...
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Cyberstrike2027
Gallente
Galactic Savings and Investments
The Galactic Equity Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.12.06 03:48:00 -
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He was too busy ripping his modem out the wall to bother with the pause button!
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Thraaies
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.12.06 03:48:00 -
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I dont know about anyone else but it had no effect on our home network here. But then ageain we are all running Vista on our boxs and Vista has alot better network throttleing then XP does. May be half of the reasion.
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Garborg
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.06 04:00:00 -
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Edited by: Garborg on 06/12/2007 04:02:06
Using BITS is fine, highjacking people's machines is not. Shame CCP.
I stop downloading the premium upgrade until I hear more of the boot.ini issue.
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Elipsis
Gallente
The Mission Guys
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Posted - 2007.12.06 14:03:00 -
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Well, I was under the impression that the premium patch ran in the background when EVE was running... not that the premium patch would run whether or not EVE was even on my computer and automatically restart itself first thing on boot.
At the very least, the uninstaller should stop the job.
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Pitt Bull
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.06 14:05:00 -
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Disable the BITS service on your machine. Problem solved.
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Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
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Posted - 2007.12.06 14:08:00 -
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strange so eve installs an 3th party software to update its own?
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Lord Matrix
Department of War
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Posted - 2007.12.06 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Garia666
strange so eve installs an 3th party software to update its own?
BITS comes with Windows and is also used for Windows Update.
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.12.06 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 06/12/2007 14:13:00
Originally by: Garia666
strange so eve installs an 3th party software to update its own?
No. BITS is part of Windows has been for a long time. It's primary use is to download updates. I have never heard of it impacting a network and it seems to work very well for millions of people.
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Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
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Posted - 2007.12.06 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: Garia666 on 06/12/2007 14:16:12
Originally by: Andrue
Edited by: Andrue on 06/12/2007 14:13:00
Originally by: Garia666
strange so eve installs an 3th party software to update its own?
No. BITS is part of Windows has been for a long time. It's primary use is to download updates. I have never heard of it impacting a network and it seems to work very well for millions of people.
Info
ah ok thanks ! and thanks for the wiki!
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2007.12.06 14:28:00 -
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I have no problem with BITS. I use it to update the software at work. NCSoft use BITS to distribute their patches. Never had a problem with that either.
But the problem the OP was whining about is an unsolvable problem. He want the BITS software to know when it should cancel a job. That the software that started the BITS job has been deleted is not a sufficient reason to know that the BITS job should be cancelled.
What if you were downloading the software that replaces the stuff you just deleted. Your dooooomed. The BITS transfer is gone and you don't have any way of restarting it.
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Jonny JoJo
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.06 14:31:00 -
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Since I am on a fat line, how can i tell if this thing is running or not? I dare not reboot of course!
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Riho
Northen Breeze
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Posted - 2007.12.06 14:43:00 -
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i guess it depends on the PC u use it on. on my 2 PCs i DL the permium stuff in parts... that means i paused the thing by shutting down eve. didnt affect my network like discribed by the OP
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Elipsis
Gallente
The Mission Guys
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Posted - 2007.12.06 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Pitt Bull
Disable the BITS service on your machine. Problem solved.
Unfortunately, this won't work. BITS is needed for such services as Windows Update, and so simply turning it off will put a stop to normal system functionality. Turning it off and back on will immediately restart the EVE premium content download, so the only way to remove the job that I found is with the BITSADMIN.exe utility.
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Minsc
Gallente
A.W.M
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.12.06 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Elipsis
Originally by: Pitt Bull
Disable the BITS service on your machine. Problem solved.
Unfortunately, this won't work. BITS is needed for such services as Windows Update, and so simply turning it off will put a stop to normal system functionality. Turning it off and back on will immediately restart the EVE premium content download, so the only way to remove the job that I found is with the BITSADMIN.exe utility.
Or you could have just hit pause in the EVE settings, where you can also set the max download rate for the patch if it's saturating your connection. But lets just whine on the forums instead. 
Originally by: Sharkbait
please for the love of god read the dam stickies
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Elipsis
Gallente
The Mission Guys
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Posted - 2007.12.06 15:16:00 -
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Edited by: Elipsis on 06/12/2007 15:16:07
Originally by: Minsc
Or you could have just hit pause in the EVE settings, where you can also set the max download rate for the patch if it's saturating your connection. But lets just whine on the forums instead.
You're kind of missing the point. The primary issue is that the update continues to run when the client is entirely gone.
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