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Evanda Char Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.12.07 05:02:00 - [31] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Right up against your borders, but not in your borders. If you actually were a Republic Supporter --rather than a well known warmonger with no reverence for the right of a nation to do what it wants within its own borders-- then I would suggest that its in your best interest to let us fry the rabble in the bleak while you take care of the mess you have sitting in Amamake. I suggest an equally large republic fleet movement to shadow the Seventh Fleet on your side of the border. It would both allay your fears and deny the scum, whether they be blood raiders or defiants, a safe haven when we remove them by force from our sovereign space. And if we mobilise the Fleet on the border, the Amarr Empire will cry war... after having been left to rummage freely through those stockpiles of bioweapons I mentioned. While undoubtedly a highly dangerous place, the Bleak Lands form a buffer between our nations, a stretch of No-Man's-Land. They may technically fall within your sovereignty, but they certainly don't fall under the Empire's rule. Much like a divorced couple, I think a little distance is far, far better for us. Because we are never doing your cooking again. -Eva- Electus Matari - taking it one bad guy at a time
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.07 05:13:00 - [32] Oh please. The only people calling war here are the Defiants, their supporters, and you. The Bleak lands are Amarrian Space, recognised as so by everyone but the blood raiders. Their destabilization only causes pain. Amarr didn't cry foul when the republic mobilized its fleet to kill Karishal, Amarr wouldn't cry foul now. Its Republic space under international treaty, the Republic can do what you want there. Just don't invade Amarr and everything is fine. The republic doesn't cry foul about the bases along the borders in Ammatar space, and active war between those two entities is far more recent, why would this be any different? But then, I should remember I am not talking to a true republic supporter, but rather someone who actively supports aggressive military action against my people. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.12.07 09:14:00 - [33] Glad to see you back Ode Me and the boys might have to slip away from our current mission and form up on your wing when the chance permits. Then when we have killed enough of these Saracen fanatics we'll grab an ale and you can tell me all about your mission in the Wildlands. It's good to see the Defiants are keeping the Bleak Lands truly bleak. Tango Wing stands locked,*****ed and ready to rock.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Dichotomy Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.12.07 09:29:00 - [34] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Its Republic space under international treaty, the Republic can do what you want there. Considering, however, that the Amarr don't consider the Minmatar Republic to be a legal nation, or, in some cases, even recognise its very existence, that's a largely moot point, isn't it, now, Gaven? Either the Minmatar Republic exists as a legal entity and it has a right to ask you to turn over its ethnic peoples held in your captivity (the valid, Minmatar argument), or it doesn't, and it's just rebel-infested space that needs to be "Reclaimed" (the religiously-justified nonsense argument I hear from most Amarr). ----- The views expressed in these posts, while inarguably correct, are not neccessarily the views of my corporation or alliance. I never sleep. I wait.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.07 09:53:00 - [35] I used the words international treaty for a reason. I suggest you pay attention next time before opening your mouth. The Republic may be an illegal entity, but Amarr signed treaties with it, the Caldari, and the Gallente specifying that the four would not breach eachother's sovereignty. So, unless Amarr wants to break its word to two entities it has recognized the legal existence of, the republic can do whatever it wants as long as it stays on its side of the border. Just as the Empire can do exactly the same. And if any pod pilot groups make an issue of it, they merely are proving that they don't support the Republic but rather an organization that turned traitor to the Republic by stealing a full battle fleet. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Dichotomy Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.12.07 10:29:00 - [36] Oh, please do violate your agreements - I'd love to see the Caldari turn around and smack you right in the face - be a nice payback for the pompous bastards you've been to them. After all, they are "lesser creatures", just like the rest of us, aren't they? ----- The views expressed in these posts, while inarguably correct, are not neccessarily the views of my corporation or alliance. I never sleep. I wait.
Tablaren Kingdom of Kador Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.12.07 11:29:00 - [37] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Oh, please do violate your agreements - I'd love to see the Caldari turn around and smack you right in the face - be a nice payback for the pompous bastards you've been to them. After all, they are "lesser creatures", just like the rest of us, aren't they? You seem to be an expert on how Calderi view Amarr. It's amazing no one inside the federation has made use of your insights into the Calderi mind. You remind me a lot about those old women that spend most of their lives with their cats, just glaring and shouting angry words at her neighbors then telling everyone that is willing to listen about their faults, real or imagined. Hmmm, they even fight similarly throwing their pet kittens at passersby much like you threw away the lives of all your men in an attack on the Archbishop that could never have succeeded. But then, I guess in your mind it was right and just to see hundreds of your own and thousands of matari "freedom fighters" perish rescueing people who didn't want to be saved, from a man you had no hope of ever facing, in a battle that could never have been won. Actually, I digress, please do continue as you were.
Ontaku Oroa Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.12.07 12:41:00 - [38] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I used the words international treaty for a reason. I suggest you pay attention next time before opening your mouth. The Republic may be an illegal entity, but Amarr signed treaties with it... Ah. How can one sign legal treaties with an illegal entity? That means one of two things. 1. That the Amarr Empire signed treaties with the Minmatar Republic only pro forma, and that it does not actually consider them legal and binding. 2. That you are confused about all this legislative mumbo-jumbo and don't know what you are talking about. Now, which one is it... tough choice.
Jacinda Molanth	Posted - 2007.12.07 13:24:00 - [39] Edited by: Jacinda Molanth on 07/12/2007 13:25:15 Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I used the words international treaty for a reason. I suggest you pay attention next time before opening your mouth. The Republic may be an illegal entity, but Amarr signed treaties with it, the Caldari, and the Gallente specifying that the four would not breach eachother's sovereignty. So, unless Amarr wants to break its word to two entities it has recognized the legal existence of, the republic can do whatever it wants as long as it stays on its side of the border. Just as the Empire can do exactly the same. And if any pod pilot groups make an issue of it, they merely are proving that they don't support the Republic but rather an organization that turned traitor to the Republic by stealing a full battle fleet. Mr. Lok'ri; These Deviants are not acting with Republic approval nor support as can be seen in the destruction of their previous leader. I would gather they are acting independently of the Republic much as the many rogue slavers act independently of the Amarr Empire when they raid our border worlds. I believe the official responce in reference to the slavers was "They are your problem'. Well sir, the Deviants are your problem. Jacinda Molanth
Sofring Eternus Amarr	Posted - 2007.12.07 15:54:00 - [40] Originally by: Evanda Char Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I suggest anyone thinking themselves loyal to peace and the republic should tread very carefully when supporting these terrorist scum condemned by the Republic itself. It's not a question of supporting the Defiants, Admiral Lok'ri. The Bleak Lands butt right up against our borders, and the Saracens are talking about burning the region. A bunch of over-heated Amarr flyboys with a hard-on for killing Minnies is bad enough to have next door. But when they start storming an area shortly after it comes out that the place in question is crawling with old Blood Raider bioweapons and a potential cure for Vitoc? Forgive me, but the Long Night never really gave us much of a reason to trust your motives... ... as amusing as a fight between PIE Inc and the Muffin Factory would be. Why in the world would pirates keep a cure for Vitoc? More likely that they would destroy any permanent cures that they found, in order to protect their illegal smuggling profits from selling the temporary cures. --- ΞνΞ ΘΠLІΠΞ Amarr dont need Grr... and RAWR is definately too much, but some Oomph would be nice.

Kazuma Ry Amarr Ebon Seraph Order of the Black Cross	Posted - 2007.12.07 17:15:00 - [41] Edited by: Kazuma Ry on 07/12/2007 17:17:57 I thought that I would share this, At 14:05, 3 Defiants entered Sahtogas system, the pilot's names are Berlolf Rern, Kald Wedafur, Oran Wibod piloting 2 Jaguars and 1 Wolf. Oran Wibod appeared to be the one in charge of this trio, since he gave the order to commence a patrol. Calebes of Imperial Pharmacy, and myself gave chase trying to get to them, neither of us knew each other before this time. The Defiants then jumped into Saikamon, and during the course of finding them and a few words exchanged, Calebes engaged them in a hurricane. Before I could make it to Calebes to give support, he had to withdrawl, and the Defiants then left system. As far as I know the Defiants headed into Myyhera, but I am not entirely sure. Thank you for your time edit for grammer Kazuma Ry No Pity! No Remorse! No Fear!
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.07 17:23:00 - [42] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 07/12/2007 17:25:02 Originally by: Jacinda Molanth Edited by: Jacinda Molanth on 07/12/2007 13:25:15 Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I used the words international treaty for a reason. I suggest you pay attention next time before opening your mouth. The Republic may be an illegal entity, but Amarr signed treaties with it, the Caldari, and the Gallente specifying that the four would not breach eachother's sovereignty. So, unless Amarr wants to break its word to two entities it has recognized the legal existence of, the republic can do whatever it wants as long as it stays on its side of the border. Just as the Empire can do exactly the same. And if any pod pilot groups make an issue of it, they merely are proving that they don't support the Republic but rather an organization that turned traitor to the Republic by stealing a full battle fleet. Mr. Lok'ri; These Deviants are not acting with Republic approval nor support as can be seen in the destruction of their previous leader. I would gather they are acting independently of the Republic much as the many rogue slavers act independently of the Amarr Empire when they raid our border worlds. I believe the official responce in reference to the slavers was "They are your problem'. Well sir, the Deviants are your problem. Jacinda Molanth I would agree. However, If you were paying attention to the way this thread has developed, you might notice that I was responding to the statement by Evanda Char, a supposed republic loyalist, that somehow it was an aggressive act towards the republic to deal with our problems in our space. It is not. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Amira Silvermist The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.12.07 17:36:00 - [43] Originally by: Evanda Char Ode Goriad, for those that don't know, was Karishal Muritor's 2ic and is now the leader of the Defiants. and I am sure the second one will meet his demise in a similar entertaining way... ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Becq Starforged Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.12.07 20:32:00 - [44] Ode Goriad, your tactics appear to be impeccable; the Amarrian scum apear to be quaking in their boots, and even ... can it be ... asking the Republic to help deal with you? Is even the combined might of the 7th fleet and the paramilitaries insufficient to face a small group of Matari heroes? I look forward to the day when I fly at your side as we work toward the freedom of our people! -- Becq Starforged proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services At Starforge Industries, the world of tomorrow is being blown apart today!
Sofring Eternus Amarr	Posted - 2007.12.07 20:35:00 - [45] Originally by: Jacinda Molanth Edited by: Jacinda Molanth on 07/12/2007 13:25:15 Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I used the words international treaty for a reason. I suggest you pay attention next time before opening your mouth. The Republic may be an illegal entity, but Amarr signed treaties with it, the Caldari, and the Gallente specifying that the four would not breach eachother's sovereignty. So, unless Amarr wants to break its word to two entities it has recognized the legal existence of, the republic can do whatever it wants as long as it stays on its side of the border. Just as the Empire can do exactly the same. And if any pod pilot groups make an issue of it, they merely are proving that they don't support the Republic but rather an organization that turned traitor to the Republic by stealing a full battle fleet. Mr. Lok'ri; These Deviants are not acting with Republic approval nor support as can be seen in the destruction of their previous leader. I would gather they are acting independently of the Republic much as the many rogue slavers act independently of the Amarr Empire when they raid our border worlds. I believe the official responce in reference to the slavers was "They are your problem'. Well sir, the Deviants are your problem. Jacinda Molanth As amusing as your slip of the tongue was, I just wanted to point out, that as deviant as they may be, they call themselves the "Defiants". --- ΞνΞ ΘΠLІΠΞ Amarr dont need Grr... and RAWR is definately too much, but some Oomph would be nice.
Tablaren Kingdom of Kador Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:40:00 - [46] Originally by: Sofring Eternus As amusing as your slip of the tongue was, I just wanted to point out, that as deviant as they may be, they call themselves the "Defiants". Was it a slip of tongue? Perhaps she truly believes in the republics policy and seeing as they have drastically deviated from that policy, termed them "deviants"?
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.12.08 03:08:00 - [47] The involvement of Defiants in this mess doesn't really bode well, I think. They don't really have a reputation for being paragons of restraint and balance in the universe after all. Wasn't their foundation marked by the hijacking of a Republic carrier group? The financial and military resource damage done to the Republic - their own people - by that act was considerable... and now here they are shooting the drone hive. While the Minmatar are perfectly capable of meeting the Empire on their own terms nowadays, that's not an excuse to start stirring up the sort of trouble that could lead to war - and the Tribal Council know it. While I can at least respect The Defiant's motives, their hot-headedness and arrogance can only cause more harm than good. Collateral damage in pursuit of a cause, however noble, undermines the cause. And yes, innocent Amarrian citizens count as "collateral damage". Clearly the Defiants don't consider the welfare of millions of Amarrians to be anywhere near as important as the liberation of a handful of slaves. And they clearly don't consider the ramifications of their actions at all. - "Stitcher" is just a call sign. My name is Verin Tarn-Hakatain.
Vox Thaal Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.12.08 05:32:00 - [48] Originally by: Stitcher And they clearly don't consider the ramifications of their actions at all. I would assert in fact the precise opposite is true. They know exactly what they are doing. ----
Kabajashi San Minmatar Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.12.08 10:39:00 - [49] There is no way you can reach a goal like the liberation of millions of Matari against the overwhelming power of another Empire without hurting bystanders. If you ask that you ask that we lay down our hands to rest and just let the monstrosities happen. Oh, and "innocent" is not a term applicable to slavers...
Jacinda Molanth	Posted - 2007.12.08 13:35:00 - [50] Originally by: Tablaren Originally by: Sofring Eternus As amusing as your slip of the tongue was, I just wanted to point out, that as deviant as they may be, they call themselves the "Defiants". Was it a slip of tongue? Perhaps she truly believes in the republics policy and seeing as they have drastically deviated from that policy, termed them "deviants"? Thank you Tablaren for your observation. The term deviant is not an insult nor slur but a descriptive definition of these Defiants. I do indeed believe in the Republic but not necessarily the people in control at the moment. My post was to simply state that the Republic could no more be held responsible for their actions then the Amarr Empire can be held accountable for the actions of the occasional slaver raids on our borders. Both are the independent actions of individuals, not government backed paramilitary groups. Jacinda Molanth

Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.12.08 13:50:00 - [51] Originally by: Kabajashi San There is no way you can reach a goal like the liberation of millions of Matari against the overwhelming power of another Empire without hurting bystanders. If you ask that you ask that we lay down our hands to rest and just let the monstrosities happen. Oh, and "innocent" is not a term applicable to slavers... You're making the exact same mistake as the Defiants if you think that all Amarrians are slavers. I am NOT pro-slavery. Quite the opposite, I believe that every person should be free to pursue their own destiny and prove their worth on their own. Something the Ushra'Khan and the Defiants consistently forget, however, is that while slavery may be a major trade in the Empire, that does not mean that every last Amarrian is involved in the practice. What of the poor, the politically dissident and the young? Better yet, what about the billions of Amarrian citizens for whom the practice of slavery is not a consideration at all, or at most a distant pipe dream? Slavery is widespread in the Empire, certainly, but that does not mean that every household has a slave. Far from it. In fact, the bulk of the slave population of the empire are taken from non-Matari stock nowadays. So yes, there are innocents in the Empire. And every time the Defiants raid a settlement to liberate the few hundred slaves living there, they drastically undermine the nobility of their work by leaving thousands of innocent livelihoods ruined in their wake. They only consider the ramifications of their actions as it applies to the liberation of Minmatar slaves and nobody else. In every other regard, they are equally as callous as the slavers that they fight. - "Stitcher" is just a call sign. My name is Verin Tarn-Hakatain.
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.12.08 13:52:00 - [52] Edited by: Stitcher on 08/12/2007 13:53:17 *DUPLICATE MESSAGE DELETED BY GALNET SUPERVISORY PROGRAM 267962/B - "Stitcher" is just a call sign. My name is Verin Tarn-Hakatain.
Verone	Posted - 2007.12.08 14:07:00 - [53] I love it how the Amarr Loyalists are appearing to become more and more proficient in turning their own announcements into political **storms littered with arguments, attacks on people and general arrogance. Hilarious. Thank you for providing me with additional amusement as our interrogation team continue to cut body parts from several captured citizens of your "empire". >>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<**
Kabajashi San Minmatar Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.12.08 14:12:00 - [54] Two things: I DID say that a task like that cannot be completed without hurting bystanders, call them innocent or whatever. We are talking about war here, a violent struggle betwen two opposing sides. This is not a child's game or one for dreamers. I wish there would be a non-violent way, but there isn't, no matter how long you will be singing the sleep song to put our resistance to rest. Second (and I know you will jump on that one): It simply doesn't matter if you actively support slavery or hold slaves yourself. Just doing NOTHING makes you a supporter of slavery. A man cannot look away on oppression and torture and claim to be honourable. It is the same principle when we talk about Providence. You know about the monstrosoties who are done to our brothers and you say you don't support these. So what do you do to end their pain? The people in the bleak lands lived right next to slave farms, they profitted from them directly or indirectly, they did NOTHING to help the people suffering there, they are most certainly not innocent to their fate. I have no pity for them. Salute to the Defiants.
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.12.08 14:51:00 - [55] Edited by: Stitcher on 08/12/2007 14:51:12 We live in an era of precision warfare. I can reliably strike a twenty-meter target from two hundred thousand meters away or more with the right tactics and equipment. If I were to ever conduct an orbital bombardment, I feel certain that I could demolish a specific building and yet leave the one immediately next to it perfectly undamaged. In an age of such exquisite precision, any party that accepts collateral damage as being an unavoidable part of war (and I dispute that war is even necessary here) is being inexcusably negligent. The technology and tactics exist - the Defiants are not using them. As for your second point - I have, during the course of my career, been instrumental in the liberation of a great many slaves. I am not exactly sure how many, but it's certainly not a small number. Admittedly, I have never gone diving into the heart of the empire and raided a slave caravan but that's because doing so is illegal. I do not believe in emancipation through bloodshed. Every time a settlement is smashed for the sake of freeing its slaves, the raiders merely fuel the Amarrian belief that all Minmatar are unthinking animals that need educating. By all means, go smash the illegal slavers who make raids against outlying Minmatar settlements - they operate outside the bounds of the law themselves, and deserve whatever punishment they receive - but attacks upon "legitimate" slavers will achieve nothing, and the Defiants are delusional if they believe that their actions will achieve anything more than goading the Amarrians. As for your conceit that any person who sits by and idly "lets" slavery happen is guilty by association - if a person is powerless to affect something, are they directly responsible? It's unreasonable to expect an average Amarrian citizen still tied to the ground by circumstance to be able to do anything about the slave breeding colonies suspended in orbit hundreds of kilometers above his head - assuming he is even aware that they even exist. The Minmatar are as guilty of proselytization and dogma as the Amarr are. The difference is that where the Amarr teach their children that all Minmatar are heathens to be brought into the Lord's light, the Minmatar believe that all Amarrians are, to a man, vicious evil slave owners with no respect whatsoever for human dignity. Both sides are wrong. - "Stitcher" is just a call sign. My name is Verin Tarn-Hakatain.
zoolkhan Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.12.08 15:35:00 - [56] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Thanks. You see, I've always wondered. Any questions, don't hesitate to drop me a mail. how are bloodthirsty goth pirate chicks in bed?
Kabajashi San Minmatar Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.12.08 16:26:00 - [57] You are a fool if you believe you can fight a war where nobody gets hurt. The only way to do this is for both opponents to meet on a deserted planet and smash each other heads till the last man standing. Even in the old days that was rarely the case. This is a battle, my friend. Good man will die, bad ones will survive, guilty will live and innocent suffer. There is no other way. Only fools mourn about the inevitable. But I want to make one thing clear. I am not fighting anyone because of the race of his parents. I am fighting him for the suffering he causes to my brother. I have had the honour to fly alongside Amarr comrades who fought bravely for a cause not theirs and for brothers they have no ancestor in common. On rare occasions I even see an Amarr joining my crew or manning the battle stations. When you say an Amarr citizen can't do anything about the issue of slavery you are blind. We are outsiders to the Empire and yet we put pressure on it. Can you imagine how much pressure an insider could create? How long would the heirs ignore the voices of their own people if they spoke up clearly? They may consider themselves superior to the common crowd but they are not stupid enough to ignore the power of the masses. How come that the Amarr speaking up against oppression always do so from outside the Empire, that no one in its rank, higher or lower, dares to name the obvious? You call them citizens, I think they are slaves to their masters. You should fight for them as we fight for our brothers. We come for our people.
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.12.08 18:11:00 - [58] Edited by: Stitcher on 08/12/2007 18:12:11 Originally by: Kabajashi San You are a fool if you believe you can fight a war where nobody gets hurt. The only way to do this is for both opponents to meet on a deserted planet and smash each other heads till the last man standing. Even in the old days that was rarely the case. This is a battle, my friend. Good man will die, bad ones will survive, guilty will live and innocent suffer. There is no other way. Only fools mourn about the inevitable. That is not what I am suggesting however. I am bemoaning the excessive destruction and suffering caused by these raids, not the fact that it happens at all. Death and suffering are natural parts of war, but that does not mean that we cannot take every step to minimize their presence - which the Defiants are patently not doing. Quote: When you say an Amarr citizen can't do anything about the issue of slavery you are blind. We are outsiders to the Empire and yet we put pressure on it. Can you imagine how much pressure an insider could create? How long would the heirs ignore the voices of their own people if they spoke up clearly? They may consider themselves superior to the common crowd but they are not stupid enough to ignore the power of the masses. Hence the fact that non-holders within Amarrian society are almost entirely without rights, and their religion allows the execution of "heretics" - AKA political dissidents - often without trial. In many ways, the reason the average Amarrian citizen is incapable of affecting the Empire's policies on slavery is the fact that they are little better than slaves themselves. That is why the Amarrians who speak out against slavery do so from outside the Empire's reach - to do otherwise would be to pretty much extend an open invitation for a strike team to raid their house and shoot them and their lvoed ones dead. Your philosophy makes no distinction between these unfortunates and the stereotypical corrupt Holder with a hundred thousand slaves labouring across his estate.... and you dare to call ME a fool? Your arrogant zealotry has rendered you completely blind to the suffering of anyone who doesn't have any Minmatar blood in them. - "Stitcher" is just a call sign. My name is Verin Tarn-Hakatain.
Kabajashi San Minmatar Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.12.08 19:02:00 - [59] Excessive destruction? What news have you been reading? The attacked facilities were slave colonies and military installations. What are you talking about? You are very fast to mourn about "innocent" bystanders when they are Amarr. You should be more worried about the innocent Matari that are suffering every day by the Empire you are so glorifying. I know people who destroyed entire planets and erased entire tribes and they were not Matari. We are warriors. We know the consequences of our actions and we accept them. We don't claim to be holier than holy. Give me a break and do the same.
Ontaku Oroa Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.12.08 20:23:00 - [60] I would like to point out that I personally had the priviledge to fly with a few captains of Amarr origin who denounced the corrupt nature of their Empire and instead joined ranks with us. So no, we are not biased towards anyone. If one has the courage to stand and fight for what is right, then that one is welcomed and saluted by us. It does not matter what is their origin or bloodline.



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