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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.03.10 15:18:00 -
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To the leadership of the CA don't you think you should have a quiet word with the FE or even better kick them out altogether in order to keep your alliance strong? Here is a quote from Seleena from SPVD which sums things up quite nicely imo...
"I think there are some good people in FE, but they are being made to look like fools by their so-called leadership. Seriously, no matter how you try to rationalize it, FE declared war on Tyrell, MASS and EV, arguably three of the most powerful corps in the game, only to retract all three wars and then do what? They declare war on Jericho, arguably one of the funniest group of people in the EVE community. Yes, I know that the PE guys have their issues with Jade and company, but that's beside the point.
I guess I'm just trying to understand what the FE guys are thinking. Right now they are an embarrassment to the Curse Alliance and look like fools for stopping their wars against three prominent Stain Alliance corps and then drawing their sword against a dedicated RP corp. I'd be willing to bet that there are more than a couple FE members who are wondering the exact same thing. FE started off great! I loved those little news releases from the Emperor and all that. Great stuff.
I want to know why Forsaken Empire, a corp I had grown to respect and admire, has now chosen to go down the current path they are on. Nothing they have done in the past few weeks adds up. What are you guys thinking?"
Indeed, the FE are becoming something of an embarassment to the CA with their war declaration on Jericho Fraction, immature posts "Yap Yap etc", spamming of La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs chat channel and continual failed attempts at character assasination. This really isnt reflecting very well on the Curse Alliance for whom I have great respect.
Maybe its time to rethink things, at least make sure they keep in line.
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ClarCE
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Posted - 2004.03.10 15:26:00 -
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LOL, I love those replies, the ones where you spend 20 mins writing a well thought out post, and you get insta-flamed for doing it 
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Alexandra Belana
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Posted - 2004.03.10 15:30:00 -
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Indeed, the FE are becoming something of an embarassment to the CA with their war declaration on Jericho Fraction, immature posts "Yap Yap etc", spamming of La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs chat channel and continual failed attempts at character assasination.
mmmmmm Zap you are positively worthy of an act of worship....
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GoGo Yubari
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Posted - 2004.03.10 15:30:00 -
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I'll have to agree with Zappy. Which is sad since I'd grown to think of them as one of the coolest alliances in the game with flavor and some content as well. Well, I guess recent times just aren't reflecting well on some of them.
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UnIQu3
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Posted - 2004.03.10 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: UnIQu3 on 10/03/2004 15:34:12
Hehe zap... remember the post about FE and MASS
Forsaken empires shortest war...
Short war :/
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.03.10 15:36:00 -
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Edited by: UnIQu3 on 10/03/2004 15:34:12
Hehe zap... remember the post about FE and MASS
Forsaken empires shortest war...
Short war :/
Yep, I remember reading that and what was even funnier was the flat out denial that the megacyte belonged to the FE. I think they made some lame excuse saying it was the property of a lone miner. LMAO
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.03.10 15:37:00 -
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Nice post, sums it all up beautifully.
The ironic thing is that JF is in a win win situation, and FE can only lose, no matter what the outcome of the hostilities between our two corps.
You FE guys really should have thought that war dec through... but as MF were getting their asses handed to them by JF pilots, I expect you repsonded for a cry for help from "junior"... get those alts together FE, and sign up for MF 
Or come fight us with your mains, in BS. Which you haven't done yet.
Whats up, scared of getting pwned by "carebears"?
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.03.10 15:37:00 -
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I always wondered what it felt like to be in a locked thread
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Havocide
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Posted - 2004.03.10 15:39:00 -
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miso ill 1on1 you anywhere anytime
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Alexandra Belana
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Posted - 2004.03.10 15:43:00 -
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Seems from recent action that the strength of the FE lies only in brute force and childish madness. I never enter a battle of wits with an unarmed man. 
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.03.10 15:43:00 -
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I always wondered what it felt like to be in a locked thread
personaly ive been in a few now.. kinda borring now 
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.03.10 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 10/03/2004 15:46:24
Zap seeing as you got Evolution to do your fighting, why don't you hire Jade to do your Propoganda.
I think your attempts to split the FE from the CA is a little too apparent, Jade's good at splitting up alliances, so perhaps that cash u got from all that hard mining you been doing, could be well spent for jade to do this and you can stop wasting our time, and of course your own.
As to be quite frank - u cannot even be bothered to come up with your own critisim of FE, all you seem to be doing is pointing out others.
Honestly though - i do think if anything you've lost the most credbility over the past few days, more so than the FE. You may argue my opinion is biased, well yes it is, but i can't help that. Anyway, why not as i suggested leave the forums alone and get someone else to do it, for your own crediblity and hey why do the dirty work when you can simply pay or ask someone else too?
I don't expect any respect shown to me in your reply, i know you cannot handle critisim well, like several of your new friends, so please feel free to comment however you like about what i just said - i'm sure it will only do you even more damage than anything i could ever say.
(Or if u wanna be clever ignore it and accept the truth, that your trying to force CA apart from within - big fat newbie curse a bit too much for m0o forces, clearly :/).
Edit: sooner stavr0s gets back in m0o the better in my opinion...
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.03.10 15:44:00 -
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Zap quoted me!! 
I stand by what I said. Nothing FE is doing lately makes sense. Now maybe we'll get some answers. Is the Emperor available for comment? 
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.03.10 15:45:00 -
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Indeed, the FE are becoming something of an embarassment to the CA with their war declaration on Jericho Fraction, immature posts "Yap Yap etc", spamming of La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs chat channel and continual failed attempts at character assasination.
mmmmmm Zap you are positively worthy of an act of worship....
Feel free
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.03.10 15:47:00 -
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Indeed, the FE are becoming something of an embarassment to the CA with their war declaration on Jericho Fraction, immature posts "Yap Yap etc", spamming of La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs chat channel and continual failed attempts at character assasination.
mmmmmm Zap you are positively worthy of an act of worship....
Get a room. Thanks.
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.03.10 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Zap on 10/03/2004 15:53:34
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 10/03/2004 15:46:24
Zap seeing as you got Evolution to do your fighting, why don't you hire Jade to do your Propoganda.
I think your attempts to split the FE from the CA is a little too apparent, Jade's good at splitting up alliances, so perhaps that cash u got from all that hard mining you been doing, could be well spent for jade to do this and you can stop wasting our time, and of course your own.
As to be quite frank - u cannot even be bothered to come up with your own critisim of FE, all you seem to be doing is pointing out others.
Honestly though - i do think if anything you've lost the most credbility over the past few days, more so than the FE. You may argue my opinion is biased, well yes it is, but i can't help that. Anyway, why not as i suggested leave the forums alone and get someone else to do it, for your own crediblity and hey why do the dirty work when you can simply pay or ask someone else too?
I don't expect any respect shown to me in your reply, i know you cannot handle critisim well, like several of your new friends, so please feel free to comment however you like about what i just said - i'm sure it will only do you even more damage than anything i could ever say.
(Or if u wanna be clever ignore it and accept the truth, that your trying to force CA apart from within - big fat newbie curse a bit too much for m0o forces, clearly :/).
Edit: sooner stavr0s gets back in m0o the better in my opinion...
Your post is intended to bait me into insulting you so I will refrain. But yes, as you state my intention is to split the FE from the CA, because frankly they are an embarrasment. I actually said this in my post so you cannot get much more apparent than that.
Indeed, if I had my way the CA would get rid of several of the new additions including OC. But, that isnt going to happen and the CA will accept more and more carebears into the alliance and will grow fat and weak as a result. This is occuring by admission of several CA members who welcome the upcoming war as a means to weed out the dry rot.
It remains to be seen whether you will get weeded out...
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Naqq
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Posted - 2004.03.10 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Naqq on 10/03/2004 15:55:59
Edited by: Naqq on 10/03/2004 15:54:57
Couldn't agree more there Zap, I also find the way F-E has acted recently very pathetic and also very very childish.
However I'd also like to say that it break my heart to see a prominent and well infamous pirat like yourself commenting on this kind of stuff(wether you like cyber-sex is not of my concern, I tend to stick to the real thing).
The only thing to comfort me there is that I still don't know wether you are the original Zap or just some stupid Ebay account buyer. Enlighten me on that topic.
However I still think that you post here drag yourself down in the mud if it makes any sense putting it that way.
You could also say I do it to my own name by writing this post, however im not near as fames as your character.
I have nothing to lose.
Ps. However you must admit that they do some great fighting tho, but in my oppinon this game is far more then that.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.03.10 15:59:00 -
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Yea my post was a bait - i'm sorry but you have to appreciate i like the FE, and when i see constant attacks on them, for reasons that can only be accounted for as "bizzare" actions i can only get a little agitated.
I am very defensive towards my comrades, always have been - i stood by ragnar (still do to this day infact) when everyone was having a go at him, i guess i am just stubborn.
Anyhow... i am dismayed at your lack of understanding you have on the CA, given the fact that you consider OC a carebear corp that will get weeded out because of the conflict.
If you did understand the CA as well as you claim, then you would never make such a statement, i daresay even our enemies that we fight daily will admit that OC are not carebears and are most certainly not going to give up this conflict for a long long time.
We fought Stain for 2 months on our own before joining the CA, we are a very determined corp and i can tell you one thing, you declaring war on the CA has only increased our support and willingness to stay alongside them.
Once again i do apologise for trying to incite an argument earlier.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:02:00 -
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miso ill 1on1 you anywhere anytime
You war dec'd us, you come get me
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:07:00 -
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Rev, my original comments that Zap quoted were in no way turned toward CA as a whole or Omega Corp (whom I briefly considered joining before SPVD). I was just putting into words my confusion over the seemingly random actions of FE over the last few weeks.
Even you, who wish to defend your comrades, must admit that thier recent actions (retracting war against MASS, EV, Tyrell), declaring war on Jericho, spamming a neutral chat channel... these are things that I can't imagine a corp such as your own, or many other CA corps, doing. Yet all the FE forum posters can seem to do is slam Zap, Jade or anyone else who questions thier seemingly bizare target list. Why hasn't even one of them come out and said, "THIS is why we stopped fighing the SA corps and declared war on Jericho and then spammed Jade's chat room, etc...."
Zap, like myself and many others, are just trying to make sense of it all.
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: Naqq on 10/03/2004 15:55:59
Edited by: Naqq on 10/03/2004 15:54:57
Couldn't agree more there Zap, I also find the way F-E has acted recently very pathetic and also very very childish.
However I'd also like to say that it break my heart to see a prominent and well infamous pirat like yourself commenting on this kind of stuff(wether you like cyber-sex is not of my concern, I tend to stick to the real thing).
The only thing to comfort me there is that I still don't know wether you are the original Zap or just some stupid Ebay account buyer. Enlighten me on that topic.
However I still think that you post here drag yourself down in the mud if it makes any sense putting it that way.
You could also say I do it to my own name by writing this post, however im not near as fames as your character.
I have nothing to lose.
Ps. However you must admit that they do some great fighting tho, but in my oppinon this game is far more then that.
I wasnt commenting on cyber sex. I was commenting on the FE as being an embarrasment to the rest of the CA. And do not be so bold to infer I dont get "the real thing" just because I might choose to chat and socialise in La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs.
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:18:00 -
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I think the people flamining FE for what they do and don't do, should be concentrating more on what they are doing. If we chose to declare war on a corporation and we retract we are well within our rights, and no, we don't have to explain it to every tom **** and harry.
As for you Zap! your feeble attempts to try to cause friction between FE and CA, well son, it ain't working. I've noticed you've not been logged on TQ a great deal latley?.......spending to much time on the forums are we? hhhmm wonder why that is.
Quit your yapping and try to do what you came to do
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:22:00 -
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I think the people flamining FE for what they do and don't do, should be concentrating more on what they are doing. If we chose to declare war on a corporation and we retract we are well within our rights, and no, we don't have to explain it to every tom **** and harry.
As for you Zap! your feeble attempts to try to cause friction between FE and CA, well son, it ain't working. I've noticed you've not been logged on TQ a great deal latley?.......spending to much time on the forums are we? hhhmm wonder why that is.
Quit your yapping and try to do what you came to do
Yap? How about a reasoned argument as to why you retracted 3 perfectly legitimate wars and declared war on Jericho Fraction, an RP based non pVp corp? Is this what the mighty Empire has come to?
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Alexandra Belana
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:23:00 -
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I wasnt commenting on cyber sex. I was commenting on the FE as being an embarrasment to the rest of the CA. And do not be so bold to infer I dont get "the real thing" just because I might choose to chat and socialise in La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs.
Much agreed. The social aspect of La Maison de Tous Les Plaisirs has more to do with a simulated environment where friend and foe can find common interest and enjoy one anothers company - though if Zap did have that problem I would be happy to remedy it for him.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 10/03/2004 16:28:59
Jericho are a non-PvP corp?
I swear to god recently they proclaimed that they had moved away from trading as the game had moved away - into the form of PvP.
Jesus i hear miso condemining and correcting many a person on these forums, as well as j0sphine regarding combat issues, battle issues and what not. If they truly do not want to engage in PvP - then they certainly go about it the wrong way.
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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:28:00 -
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The biggest embarassment to the CA was helping m0o when they were down and out only left to be stabbed in the back no matter what way you potray F-E what your currently doing doesn't even compare.
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:29:00 -
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Zip Zap Zip .......... is this the new method the m0o corporation will try to fight is wars up until the day both you and its isk runs and hides from Eve......
It seemed rather logical "cancelling" 3 wars with large coporations when we were expecting the mighty combined forces of m0o and Evoloution to attack us any day .......
Its just a pity it hasn't turned out that way and your doing nothing more than sitting in station / safe spots kicking members from your corp who are
unlucky enough to get destroyed after you leave "high and dry" when we go on the offensive ...
After all Eve wants a war .... what are we waiting for ...... sorry forgot .... no one attacks a jump in point ........ right 
As for th La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs chat channel I'm sure Jade wouldn't want you to bring that one up again ...... but for the noobs / forum warriors ..........
The verbal ... slanging between Jade and myself will continue (always has and always will) but I find it rather "stupid" to post the contents of La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs over the forums ...... expecially the people shouting "ban him" and jumping from the cliffs like lemmings .......
Now if I have been mistaken and this channel is NOT a "private" channel and open to anyone aged from 13+ I would like Jade to answer a few questions in regards to "why" firstly I was put in there and secondly about its contents, after all she is the moderator.
Double standards if you ask me........... but I'm a big boy ..... what I post is "my own views" ..... right or wrong ...... I don't hide behind alts.
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mk ultra
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:36:00 -
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First whats going between CA and allies is none of your business anyway . Your voice will never make any difference now.
Second ... dont you have a war to actually start ... still waiting ...
Good luck to you
No hard feelings
Have fun
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LordXL
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:39:00 -
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You Talk to much Zapo! For a use to bee respected player. Trying put us in embarrassment haha your funy go play whit the roids.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:44:00 -
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Whats wrong zap, cant beat us by military force, and resorting to politics instead?
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crice
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:47:00 -
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Hmm. What can you say about these posts?
Why did FE declare war of Jericho Faction? Just curious?
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:48:00 -
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Hmm. What can you say about these posts?
Why did FE declare war of Jericho Faction? Just curious?
They were after my used panties.
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Naqq
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Naqq on 10/03/2004 15:55:59
Edited by: Naqq on 10/03/2004 15:54:57
Couldn't agree more there Zap, I also find the way F-E has acted recently very pathetic and also very very childish.
However I'd also like to say that it break my heart to see a prominent and well infamous pirat like yourself commenting on this kind of stuff(wether you like cyber-sex is not of my concern, I tend to stick to the real thing).
The only thing to comfort me there is that I still don't know wether you are the original Zap or just some stupid Ebay account buyer. Enlighten me on that topic.
However I still think that you post here drag yourself down in the mud if it makes any sense putting it that way.
You could also say I do it to my own name by writing this post, however im not near as fames as your character.
I have nothing to lose.
Ps. However you must admit that they do some great fighting tho, but in my oppinon this game is far more then that.
I wasnt commenting on cyber sex. I was commenting on the FE as being an embarrasment to the rest of the CA. And do not be so bold to infer I dont get "the real thing" just because I might choose to chat and socialise in La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs.
The Cybersex thing is a minor thing, people can do what they want I really don't give a flying bleep about it.
The thing I was pointing out is you started this thread for an instance.
Read, understand. Then reply.
removed profanity -Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 10/03/2004 16:51:03
"Jericho are a non-PvP corp?
I swear to god recently they proclaimed that they had moved away from trading as the game had moved away - into the form of PvP."
Aye, but it's a popular opinion we're the lamest PvP'ers in the Eve cluster, and we don't ever undock for that matter... so really, just how big balls does it take to declare war on target like that. ;s
(Jericho PvP boils down to Jade podding everyone during the mining ops *..*
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:51:00 -
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Aye, I'm particularly crap at PvP j0sephine... as you well know.
So, I'm wondering why the mighty FE want to "pwn" my rifter with their massive fleet of battleships. They still haven't answered that.
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JaiMaster
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:54:00 -
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Lord Zap labelling someone, anyone, an embarassment...
What next? Evol calling down people for underhand exploits? Joshua Calvert attacking people for using safespots? PIE moving to minmatar to mine with KOTM? BBBB and Mining Unlimited paying out mining carebares?!?!
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Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end...
Your end.
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:03:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 10/03/2004 16:51:03
"Jericho are a non-PvP corp?
I swear to god recently they proclaimed that they had moved away from trading as the game had moved away - into the form of PvP."
Aye, but it's a popular opinion we're the lamest PvP'ers in the Eve cluster, and we don't ever undock for that matter... so really, just how big balls does it take to declare war on target like that.
(Jericho PvP boils down to Jade podding everyone during the mining ops *..*
We're not really a PvP corp, but that's not the same thing as saying we don't PvP ;s. We're certainly not traders any more (and not for some time either).
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:11:00 -
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could you stop this war you are lagging the forums
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Shamad Conde
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:17:00 -
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Lord Zap a forum troll?
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Christopher Xen
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:19:00 -
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Nice post, sums it all up beautifully.
The ironic thing is that JF is in a win win situation, and FE can only lose, no matter what the outcome of the hostilities between our two corps.
You FE guys really should have thought that war dec through... but as MF were getting their asses handed to them by JF pilots, I expect you repsonded for a cry for help from "junior"... get those alts together FE, and sign up for MF
Or come fight us with your mains, in BS. Which you haven't done yet.
Whats up, scared of getting pwned by "carebears"?
Get used to the Inside of the station, We are coming. Very very very soon. Just remember jade begged us to kill you.
removed the bait -Eris Discordia
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:26:00 -
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Get used to the Inside of the station, We are coming. Very very very soon. Just remember jade begged us to kill you.
Does that mean you're actually going to travel more than a hop or two from Obe eventually, er, very very very soon?
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Christopher Xen
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:27:00 -
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Hmm. What can you say about these posts?
Why did FE declare war of Jericho Faction? Just curious?
I dont even know that one, but i tell myself its a belated birthday present and im just overwhelmed and over joyed by the thing. why dont you do the same crice, once moo is done shooting and evicerating themselves, we now know where they hide and 90% of thier playable alt names.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:28:00 -
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Get used to the Inside of the station, We are coming. Very very very soon. Just remember jade begged us to kill you.
Does that mean you're actually going to travel more than a hop or two from Obe eventually, er, very very very soon?
OMG, noooo man are u mad, u can get space sickness traveling more than 2 jumps.
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Christopher Xen
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:31:00 -
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Edited by: Christopher Xen on 10/03/2004 17:33:13
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Get used to the Inside of the station, We are coming. Very very very soon. Just remember jade begged us to kill you.
Does that mean you're actually going to travel more than a hop or two from Obe eventually, er, very very very soon?
Unfortunately it just means as soon as were done evicerating moo and evol...so ...very Very VERY soon
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:31:00 -
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There are some F-E who I do like, usually its on a 1-1 basis that you get to know someone anyway.
Not to keen on the entire channel invasion though 
This is not a hijack
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:32:00 -
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only reason FE declared war on jericho is because i wanted miso's panties, and havocide wanted a jade corpse.. once these items have been attained, the war will be retracted
and as for us being an embarrasment, what about m0o? only thing they have accomplished so far is taking one of our stations (whoopy) and 5 members podded (collectivly)
Sutty [evol] podded (Raven)
DP Lip [evol] podded (Megathron)
Reverand [m0o] podded (Tempest)
Hitman47 [m0o] podded (Scorpion)
BobGhengisKhan [m0o] podded (arsing around in a Rifter)
our losses, Lord Guerdo [FE] Armageddon lost to Evol, No m0o envolvment, not podded.
Yes its early days and there has been only 1 major engagment (this involved evol and no m0o), yet the Mighty masters 0f ownage, have yet to even kill a single FE member, the rest of the time m0o have been hiding in stations and safe spots, looks like this post is a desperate attempt to make up for there lack of military ability... and to attempt to make FE look bad (like we care, or need any help to look bad)
I like alot of the m0o guys, including lord zap.. but you started all this, we were happy to be allies...
So far i have been more impressed with Evol than the mighty m0o, maby now stavros has left, your stucture is all but falling apart.. methinks the time of m0o is going to an abrupt end.. cmon guys, i know you got more fight in ya than this, prove me wrong! i could do with a good fight.
Flame me as much as you like, but the figures are true, and im pretty cold here in the UK i could do with some free heating
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:32:00 -
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I will post here that I totally agree with Lord Zap's initial sentiments in this thread. Foresaken Empire are an embarrassment, to the CA, to CA corporations, to Eve players in general, and frankly, to gamers in general. If I was allied with CA at this point I break ties with FE because they are a joke. Credibility-wise the FE has nothing, they have achieved nothing, they are nothing.
Lets face it FE are the Eve "surrender and retreat" experts. There are few regions of space that they haven't fled from with their skirts around their waists. Venal, Fountain, Stain, Empire, their history is one of crushing defeat and humiliating rout.
M3G4 Served Ragnar and were by and large crushed by the 4 man Pain Syndicate in Venal. The M3G4 CEO leapt out of his spaceship and had it captured and then M3G4 butchered their leader and corp-thefted their own corp to save their bacon. Many of their members came on their knees to beg me for financial aid to keep them in the game "for pity's sake".
I did this, and yes I have the chatlogs of current FE "heroes" abasing themselves to the NVA. I don't intend to make these names public, but suffice it to say, you know who you are.
Then Biomass bullied their way to power in the Biomass Alliance, corp-thefted minor corps and stole and cheated their way to big corp status, declared war to NVA and tried and failed to achieve any military objective at all for about 3 months.
Finally their begged SPVD to help them out and then counted coup on the backs of better fighters.
In the end the Biomass people came begging the NVA for a ceasefire and merger and joined plan to attack FA. This fell through in part due to the actions of a brave patriot that revealed the merger plan to Eve Guardian, and the fact that certain Biomass people refused to stop pirating the NVA while talks continued ;)
So next Biomass raided Fountain on the Moo coat-tails, told us for a week how they were immortal talented warriors etc, then mysteriously as soon as Moo left the theatre, Biomass managed to get totally crushed in a succession of humiliating defeats that led to then running home so fast their left their corporation name behind in the bins!
So the Foresaken Empire arose and attacked PA. Then ran away. And then the Foresaken Empire war dec'ed Stain. Then ran away (losing a huge haul of megacyte and wetting their pants in Eve's shortest ever major declared war).
What next?
They declare war on Jericho Fraction with their alts in Mercenary Frigates. In come the brave MF's and ... get pwned by Jericho and end up using blackbirds because they are loosing too many frigates ;)
So Foresaken take the amazing step of war-dec'ing Jericho in place of the 3 Stain Corps they had previously thought to match themselves against : while this speaks volumes of how much confidence FE actually have, it does beg the question ... why?
Well I think I finally have the answer.
A couple of days ago an FE pilot (who shall remain nameless) tried to chat up a gal in la maison channel and frankly, did so in such a boorish and unconvincing way that he was given the brush off and told to go and learn some manners. It so happened that the pilot in question was a "mighty" forsaken fleet commander (or something) and so used his position of influence to bring his blobtastic corp into the fray to salve his hurt feelings.
And that is truth of it.
FE went to war because one of their little boys failed to "score" online with a virtual chat channel hostess.
We could call it the "rebuffed affections war".
FE an Embarrassment to CA?
I should say so ;)
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Christopher Xen
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:34:00 -
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Quote:
Aye, I'm particularly crap at PvP j0sephine... as you well know.
So, I'm wondering why the mighty FE want to "pwn" my rifter with their massive fleet of battleships. They still haven't answered that.
Jade asked us too.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:34:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 10/03/2004 17:37:23
retracted statement - jade was on about BioMass on their own, not the actual FE.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:39:00 -
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lol jade, funny post.. everyone remembers the events you speak of and the only people you are fooling with your post, is the noobs browsing the forums who donÆt know any better...
keep up the good work tho, your posts always make a hilariously funny read...
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Christopher Xen
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:42:00 -
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Didn't Jade tell the NVA fleet to hide under a rock, until we got bored?
Didn't she say the NVA would forever stand?
Credability eh? while you promised the whole thing your over throw, which i mucst admit i still give PA props about(better place with out her), was being planned and devised.
And after the execution didnt you just run off like a little girl crying.
Credability? What exactly happened to the NVA Jade? I think its time i go dig up some of your old iron sided we'll never fall rhetoric and then your crying and whining.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:57:00 -
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I hope your done fishing for flames, because I have removed all 'baiting'( trolling) posts.
Be respectful to one another at all times and keep the thread flame free, please.
Thank you
*thread re-opened
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Sally B
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:11:00 -
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Stick to mining.
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:11:00 -
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FE like to talk smack on the boards. They like it a lot, especially when they are winning.
Anyone else remember the total silence on the boards after FE started getting WTFPWNED in Fountain? I know I do.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:12:00 -
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"Credability? What exactly happened to the NVA Jade? I think its time i go dig up some of your old iron sided we'll never fall rhetoric and then your crying and whining."
... Of all people, you Mr.Xen are trying to hold someone up to something that "was the past"?
Amusing, to say the least. :s
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:16:00 -
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Quote:
Didn't Jade tell the NVA fleet to hide under a rock, until we got bored?
Didn't she say the NVA would forever stand?
Two things:
1. I advised the NVA to hide from Space Invaders not you.
2. The NVA didn't fall from without, it fell from within and treachery.
Which is off course the mark of all small M3G4/Biomass/FE "victories" (not that any of them do amount to much)
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Kiana'tre
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:23:00 -
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Biomass never asked us for anything. We had 8 people pirateing one night and decieded to take a trip. We drove through venal and did our thing. "I see you have blasted the crap out of a load of our ships again" Is what i remember. Please do not ever take anything SPVD does out of context. Biomass never asked us for a thing we just took a field trip. Whatever sleene feels about F-E is her personal feelings and she/he has reasons i am sure to support those. But please do not ever use your little Crapa$s story telling to say SPVD saved biomass or anything of the such. As Viceroy would say KTHXBYE
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:25:00 -
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Quote:
Biomass never asked us for anything. We had 8 people pirateing one night and decieded to take a trip. We drove through venal and did our thing. "I see you have blasted the crap out of a load of our ships again" Is what i remember. Please do not ever take anything SPVD does out of context. Biomass never asked us for a thing we just took a field trip. Whatever sleene feels about F-E is her personal feelings and she/he has reasons i am sure to support those. But please do not ever use your little Crapa$s story telling to say SPVD saved biomass or anything of the such. As Viceroy would say KTHXBYE
So what you are saying is ... I was totally truthful and your post has no purpose then? Fair enough.
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Kiana'tre
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:28:00 -
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Finally their begged SPVD to help them out and then counted coup on the backs of better fighters.
explain that comment
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:34:00 -
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Omg, I am starting to like Jade again.
F-E has no concept whatsoever and Jade''s summary is mostly true. PWNED!
Quick, quick, disband and make a new corp. Feel free to call it the Curse Alliance if you want to.
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Bexxly
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:35:00 -
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They declare war on Jericho Fraction with their alts in Mercenary Frigates. In come the brave MF's and ... get pwned by Jericho and end up using blackbirds because they are loosing too many frigates ;)
Hi  I'm not interested in this thread, it's just another boring war of words BUT, I have to respectfully point out that I know who the F-E alts are in MF and not one of them is actively participating in our current wars.
The decision to attack JF was nothing to do with anyone in the F-E, in fact they have NO decision making powers whatsoever within our corp.
You can choose to believe this or not, that's entirely up to yourselves What I will say is we have had a LOT of fun fighting JF and, to date, it has been one of our better choices for declaring war. I only ask that you keep from using us in these political arguements, we have little/no interest in them, thnx
If you want numbers of F-E alts in our corp, I'd say there's 4 or 5 and they're never on and no, I won't tell you who they are
P.S you're not pwning us
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:39:00 -
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Whatever sleene feels about F-E is her personal feelings and she/he has reasons i am sure to support those.
No, I do not speak for SPVD as a whole, nor did I claim to. I love my corp and don''t want people to get the idea that I''m trying to write a position paper or anything.
Kiana, my ''feelings'' about FE are simply of confusion at this point. I just don''t understand why they are doing some of the things they are. Zap decided to take my comments and create this thread, which is fine because I don''t regret anything I said. As I said originally, I''m sure there are a few FE people who are collectively scratching thier heads at this latest turn of events as well. The whole thing with the La Masion chat channel was just too much strangeness though and I had to say something.
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Kiana'tre
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:47:00 -
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I don't have a position
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crice
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:51:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
Hmm. What can you say about these posts?
Why did FE declare war of Jericho Faction? Just curious?
I dont even know that one, but i tell myself its a belated birthday present and im just overwhelmed and over joyed by the thing. why dont you do the same crice, once moo is done shooting and evicerating themselves, we now know where they hide and 90% of thier playable alt names.
Just tell me when and where. We have been in a few battles. 
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crice
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Posted - 2004.03.10 19:07:00 -
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Edited by: crice on 10/03/2004 19:11:37
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FE like to talk smack on the boards. They like it a lot, especially when they are winning.
Anyone else remember the total silence on the boards after FE started getting WTFPWNED in Fountain? I know I do.
First: I am disgusted to see a Techell member making comments on this post. I have much respect for Dats and Techell, we have been friends for a long time.
Second: Jade Post: In the end the Biomass people came begging the NVA for a ceasefire and merger and joined plan to attack FA. This fell through in part due to the actions of a brave patriot that revealed the merger plan to Eve Guardian, and the fact that certain Biomass people refused to stop pirating the NVA while talks continued ;)
I was there the self proclaimed leader of the FE. I led the discussion and merger talks between FE and NVA. I can tell you we never "Begged" for a ceasefire. Our intentions were true, to have a super alliance. I failed, I take responsiblity for that and have chosen exile from the day to day politics.
I have many friends in FE. I have respect for their new direction of the FE. Crice Corp didn't merge for one reason. We already had plans with Curse. I support the merger that happened, I think it was a great idea. I support the roleplaying. I support FE's military needs and industrial needs. (IF ASK TO DO SO) FE has no need for Crice Corp. Our goal as a corp is to help others. We show loyalty in the good and the bad times.
We help CA when asked although they have a strong industry and military and we have done very little except run security.
Death is expected. Losses are life. Fun is needed to keep my ass logging on.
So power to FE and the CA.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.03.10 20:21:00 -
[66]
Removed a few posts, the forums are not the place to discuss such matters and all posts relating to what has been removed, will be ...removed.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.03.10 20:38:00 -
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Darn it Eris - you beat me to the punch! I had this awesome "let CCP do their job" post all written out.
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2004.03.10 21:03:00 -
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Removed a few posts, the forums are not the place to discuss such matters and all posts relating to what has been removed, will be ...removed.
eris u adise people to petition against getting blown up by the same person.
i'd love to know who your eve carebear was maybe i'd pod u twice and u can petition about it. cant u move to a carebear miner forum and give us some decent mod.
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.03.10 21:07:00 -
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Sadly, I can't tell you my other name, but I have never been called a carebear before
When people are worried about certain events and wonder if it is allowed, whether it be signatures or exploits, it's best to ask the ones that have a final say in it.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2004.03.10 21:12:00 -
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you might aswell lock the whole topic or delete it as removing posts makes things un readable
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2004.03.10 21:21:00 -
[71]
Quote:
you might aswell lock the whole topic or delete it as removing posts makes things un readable
Agreed.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.10 21:29:00 -
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Please understand that flame bombing and trolling is the way that Foresaken Empire ends threads that it doesn't like, and it sure as hell doesn't like this one. By giving into these tactics you are giving the Foresaken Empire players like Jacob unwarrented power to censor the discussion of the corporation's shortcomings.
Multiple unconstructive trolling and posting of direct out of character attacks should lead to the banning of the people that make them, not the closing of other people's threads.
I feel very strongly about this. (and if you don't believe me, take a look at the link in my sig about the Foresaken Empire flood spamming and destruction of the la maison channel, and note how it ends)
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Kiana'tre
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Posted - 2004.03.10 21:37:00 -
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I laughed alot on TS when that happened.......Its a game don't feel strongly about anything
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.10 21:42:00 -
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Quote:
I laughed alot on TS when that happened.......Its a game don't feel strongly about anything
You know the thing that annoys the hell out of me about "channel invasions" Kiana'tre?
They are only possible because of flaws in the Eve chat client.
We don't have a "/cht ban" command. Passworded channels bug. Invite only channels can be infiltrated eventually. And the "/univite" command doesn't work properly. Last night saw that Mongo Peck knows how to subvert the "/chtgag" command as well.
Hence the Eve channel system is impossible to secure. Anyone wants to chat flood and channel invade a channel to bits can do it.
This is annoying. Its like me having a secret method of stealing isk from your wallet. Just a bit at a time, nothing much, but wouldn't that irritate you? This insecurity in evechat is what makes people use IRC. Its something that needs fixing.
There should be commands to permaban people and corporations from chat channels.
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Kiana'tre
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Posted - 2004.03.10 21:45:00 -
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True.... Now complain about something that is really annoying........150km range of sentries...... WTF is that
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.03.10 21:48:00 -
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Forsaken Empire and M0o are both embarassments in the sense that their names are both crap, makes me feel mighty satisfied with our mediocre little brand.
Convert Stations
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.10 21:49:00 -
[77]
I actually agreed with you on that already ... 150km sentries suck.
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Sally B
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Posted - 2004.03.10 21:53:00 -
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Yarn, one caldari cruiser and one battleship can easily assist the battleship to shoot beyond 150km. All it does is to put an end to solo gate ganking.
All the PC pirates who don't care about their permantely low security status is to wait for the carebears to feel secure and then it's going to be massmurder 24/7, just to thank CCP for it's security status mechanics.
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Robotek Hybrid
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Posted - 2004.03.10 22:02:00 -
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Rev, my original comments that Zap quoted were in no way turned toward CA as a whole or Omega Corp (whom I briefly considered joining before SPVD). I was just putting into words my confusion over the seemingly random actions of FE over the last few weeks.
Even you, who wish to defend your comrades, must admit that thier recent actions (retracting war against MASS, EV, Tyrell), declaring war on Jericho, spamming a neutral chat channel... these are things that I can't imagine a corp such as your own, or many other CA corps, doing. Yet all the FE forum posters can seem to do is slam Zap, Jade or anyone else who questions thier seemingly bizare target list. Why hasn't even one of them come out and said, "THIS is why we stopped fighing the SA corps and declared war on Jericho and then spammed Jade's chat room, etc...."
Zap, like myself and many others, are just trying to make sense of it all.
baecause ur all so curious we were bored and decided hell we dont wanna fly down to stain so we declared war on the biggest of their corps to fight in empire and we did for a while then we heard about m0o and evol and decided that as a precaution they cant all gang together and gangk us its thats simple we have a war with m0o and evol now so there is no need to bother with them ... for now
removed profanity -Eris Discordia
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JaiMaster
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Posted - 2004.03.10 23:33:00 -
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I hope your done fishing for flames, because I have removed all 'baiting'( trolling) posts.
Be respectful to one another at all times and keep the thread flame free, please.
Thank you
*thread re-opened
If youd removed all "baiting" (trolling) posts youd have removed the thread completely. Its ok for Zap to call FE an embarassment but not us to point out its a case of pot, kettle, black? Nice "objectivity" from polaris here...
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Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end...
Your end.
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Warsawa
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Posted - 2004.03.10 23:34:00 -
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Indeed, the FE are becoming something of an embarassment to the CA with their war declaration on Jericho Fraction, immature posts "Yap Yap etc", spamming of La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs chat channel and continual failed attempts at character assasination. This really isnt reflecting very well on the Curse Alliance for whom I have great respect.
Maybe its time to rethink things, at least make sure they keep in line.
Character assassination? Do you even live in the real world... because you certainly can't spell! Like anything we do here reflects on who we really are or our character.... Phhht....
I so regret selling you that account. It's gone to your head- it really has.
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The Monk
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Posted - 2004.03.10 23:37:00 -
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Are m0o already taking lessons from the evolution propaganda machine???? And if they are they seem to be learning well.
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Gunn Diesel
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Posted - 2004.03.10 23:39:00 -
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Lord Zap : looks like you've put your own foot in your mouth brings back old memories of you running for the gate in k-q . too bad your still a coward .
ahhh, the good ol days
" Dont hate the playa... Hate the game. "
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Alexandra Belana
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Posted - 2004.03.10 23:44:00 -
[84]
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Lord Zap: too bad your still a coward .
ahhh, the good ol days
For the love of all that is in me, i will kill you where you stand for that statement. Come out of the station and fight me like a man. Lord Zap and m0o may be many things, but a coward is not one of them.
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.03.10 23:51:00 -
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Jade..... you still yapping .........
Firsty how can you secure a channel ... expecially when your invited in............
Also as you now "correctly" acknowledge the Eve-Online system is subject to all the published terms and conditions ..... As you have made your little channel open to the public maybe we should ask CCP to investigate its contents and your ability to channel moderate.
I do suggest however you take and I quote "adult games" somewhere else (men playing girls)...
Mongo speaks !!
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.03.10 23:53:00 -
[86]
PS
Alexandra Belana last time I saw your sorry group they where running away from Hakonen..........
Mongo speaks !!
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Capn Blood
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Posted - 2004.03.10 23:55:00 -
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Is men playing girls, worse than men playing aliens?
Cos thats what all the characters are in this game.
Weird argument.
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"Trust no man who says to you that 'The ends justify the means' or who says that 'We will do whatever it takes...'.
These men have no honour, and are fit only to be politicians."
The book of Rab
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.03.11 00:01:00 -
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This has gone far enough, if people have problems with ingame-chatchannels then you need to file a petition.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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