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Lord Zap	Posted - 2004.03.10 15:18:00 - [1] To the leadership of the CA don't you think you should have a quiet word with the FE or even better kick them out altogether in order to keep your alliance strong? Here is a quote from Seleena from SPVD which sums things up quite nicely imo... "I think there are some good people in FE, but they are being made to look like fools by their so-called leadership. Seriously, no matter how you try to rationalize it, FE declared war on Tyrell, MASS and EV, arguably three of the most powerful corps in the game, only to retract all three wars and then do what? They declare war on Jericho, arguably one of the funniest group of people in the EVE community. Yes, I know that the PE guys have their issues with Jade and company, but that's beside the point. I guess I'm just trying to understand what the FE guys are thinking. Right now they are an embarrassment to the Curse Alliance and look like fools for stopping their wars against three prominent Stain Alliance corps and then drawing their sword against a dedicated RP corp. I'd be willing to bet that there are more than a couple FE members who are wondering the exact same thing. FE started off great! I loved those little news releases from the Emperor and all that. Great stuff. I want to know why Forsaken Empire, a corp I had grown to respect and admire, has now chosen to go down the current path they are on. Nothing they have done in the past few weeks adds up. What are you guys thinking?" Indeed, the FE are becoming something of an embarassment to the CA with their war declaration on Jericho Fraction, immature posts "Yap Yap etc", spamming of La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs chat channel and continual failed attempts at character assasination. This really isnt reflecting very well on the Curse Alliance for whom I have great respect. Maybe its time to rethink things, at least make sure they keep in line.
ClarCE	Posted - 2004.03.10 15:26:00 - [2] LOL, I love those replies, the ones where you spend 20 mins writing a well thought out post, and you get insta-flamed for doing it --'The Way is Shut'-- ----------------------- Jenny...Get to the Chopper---Stick Around -----------------------
Alexandra Belana	Posted - 2004.03.10 15:30:00 - [3] Quote: Indeed, the FE are becoming something of an embarassment to the CA with their war declaration on Jericho Fraction, immature posts "Yap Yap etc", spamming of La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs chat channel and continual failed attempts at character assasination. mmmmmm Zap you are positively worthy of an act of worship.... Evil Temptress - Goddess of Pleasure
GoGo Yubari	Posted - 2004.03.10 15:30:00 - [4] I'll have to agree with Zappy. Which is sad since I'd grown to think of them as one of the coolest alliances in the game with flavor and some content as well. Well, I guess recent times just aren't reflecting well on some of them.
UnIQu3	Posted - 2004.03.10 15:32:00 - [5] Edited by: UnIQu3 on 10/03/2004 15:34:12 Hehe zap... remember the post about FE and MASS Forsaken empires shortest war... Short war :/
Lord Zap	Posted - 2004.03.10 15:36:00 - [6] Quote: Edited by: UnIQu3 on 10/03/2004 15:34:12 Hehe zap... remember the post about FE and MASS Forsaken empires shortest war... Short war :/ Yep, I remember reading that and what was even funnier was the flat out denial that the megacyte belonged to the FE. I think they made some lame excuse saying it was the property of a lone miner. LMAO
Miso	Posted - 2004.03.10 15:37:00 - [7] Nice post, sums it all up beautifully. The ironic thing is that JF is in a win win situation, and FE can only lose, no matter what the outcome of the hostilities between our two corps. You FE guys really should have thought that war dec through... but as MF were getting their asses handed to them by JF pilots, I expect you repsonded for a cry for help from "junior"... get those alts together FE, and sign up for MF Or come fight us with your mains, in BS. Which you haven't done yet. Whats up, scared of getting pwned by "carebears"? -------------------------------------------- Dead
Sassinak	Posted - 2004.03.10 15:37:00 - [8] I always wondered what it felt like to be in a locked thread Sass Arcane Technologies
Havocide	Posted - 2004.03.10 15:39:00 - [9] miso ill 1on1 you anywhere anytime
Alexandra Belana	Posted - 2004.03.10 15:43:00 - [10] Seems from recent action that the strength of the FE lies only in brute force and childish madness. I never enter a battle of wits with an unarmed man. Evil Temptress - Goddess of Pleasure
Psy Corp	Posted - 2004.03.10 15:43:00 - [11] Quote: I always wondered what it felt like to be in a locked thread personaly ive been in a few now.. kinda borring now I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.03.10 15:44:00 - [12] Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 10/03/2004 15:46:24 Zap seeing as you got Evolution to do your fighting, why don't you hire Jade to do your Propoganda. I think your attempts to split the FE from the CA is a little too apparent, Jade's good at splitting up alliances, so perhaps that cash u got from all that hard mining you been doing, could be well spent for jade to do this and you can stop wasting our time, and of course your own. As to be quite frank - u cannot even be bothered to come up with your own critisim of FE, all you seem to be doing is pointing out others. Honestly though - i do think if anything you've lost the most credbility over the past few days, more so than the FE. You may argue my opinion is biased, well yes it is, but i can't help that. Anyway, why not as i suggested leave the forums alone and get someone else to do it, for your own crediblity and hey why do the dirty work when you can simply pay or ask someone else too? I don't expect any respect shown to me in your reply, i know you cannot handle critisim well, like several of your new friends, so please feel free to comment however you like about what i just said - i'm sure it will only do you even more damage than anything i could ever say. (Or if u wanna be clever ignore it and accept the truth, that your trying to force CA apart from within - big fat newbie curse a bit too much for m0o forces, clearly :/). Edit: sooner stavr0s gets back in m0o the better in my opinion... Reverend Necrona
Seleene	Posted - 2004.03.10 15:44:00 - [13] Zap quoted me!! I stand by what I said. Nothing FE is doing lately makes sense. Now maybe we'll get some answers. Is the Emperor available for comment? - T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today!
Lord Zap	Posted - 2004.03.10 15:45:00 - [14] Quote: Quote: Indeed, the FE are becoming something of an embarassment to the CA with their war declaration on Jericho Fraction, immature posts "Yap Yap etc", spamming of La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs chat channel and continual failed attempts at character assasination. mmmmmm Zap you are positively worthy of an act of worship.... Feel free
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.03.10 15:47:00 - [15] Quote: Quote: Indeed, the FE are becoming something of an embarassment to the CA with their war declaration on Jericho Fraction, immature posts "Yap Yap etc", spamming of La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs chat channel and continual failed attempts at character assasination. mmmmmm Zap you are positively worthy of an act of worship.... Get a room. Thanks. Reverend Necrona
Lord Zap	Posted - 2004.03.10 15:52:00 - [16] Edited by: Lord Zap on 10/03/2004 15:53:34 Quote: Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 10/03/2004 15:46:24 Zap seeing as you got Evolution to do your fighting, why don't you hire Jade to do your Propoganda. I think your attempts to split the FE from the CA is a little too apparent, Jade's good at splitting up alliances, so perhaps that cash u got from all that hard mining you been doing, could be well spent for jade to do this and you can stop wasting our time, and of course your own. As to be quite frank - u cannot even be bothered to come up with your own critisim of FE, all you seem to be doing is pointing out others. Honestly though - i do think if anything you've lost the most credbility over the past few days, more so than the FE. You may argue my opinion is biased, well yes it is, but i can't help that. Anyway, why not as i suggested leave the forums alone and get someone else to do it, for your own crediblity and hey why do the dirty work when you can simply pay or ask someone else too? I don't expect any respect shown to me in your reply, i know you cannot handle critisim well, like several of your new friends, so please feel free to comment however you like about what i just said - i'm sure it will only do you even more damage than anything i could ever say. (Or if u wanna be clever ignore it and accept the truth, that your trying to force CA apart from within - big fat newbie curse a bit too much for m0o forces, clearly :/). Edit: sooner stavr0s gets back in m0o the better in my opinion... Your post is intended to bait me into insulting you so I will refrain. But yes, as you state my intention is to split the FE from the CA, because frankly they are an embarrasment. I actually said this in my post so you cannot get much more apparent than that. Indeed, if I had my way the CA would get rid of several of the new additions including OC. But, that isnt going to happen and the CA will accept more and more carebears into the alliance and will grow fat and weak as a result. This is occuring by admission of several CA members who welcome the upcoming war as a means to weed out the dry rot. It remains to be seen whether you will get weeded out...
Naqq	Posted - 2004.03.10 15:52:00 - [17] Edited by: Naqq on 10/03/2004 15:55:59 Edited by: Naqq on 10/03/2004 15:54:57 Couldn't agree more there Zap, I also find the way F-E has acted recently very pathetic and also very very childish. However I'd also like to say that it break my heart to see a prominent and well infamous pirat like yourself commenting on this kind of stuff(wether you like cyber-sex is not of my concern, I tend to stick to the real thing). The only thing to comfort me there is that I still don't know wether you are the original Zap or just some stupid Ebay account buyer. Enlighten me on that topic. However I still think that you post here drag yourself down in the mud if it makes any sense putting it that way. You could also say I do it to my own name by writing this post, however im not near as fames as your character. I have nothing to lose. Ps. However you must admit that they do some great fighting tho, but in my oppinon this game is far more then that. -- "Yarrr..." [FRIG] promotional video\|Training film #1\|Training film #2\| \|Newsreels: #1,#2,#3(NEW).\|
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.03.10 15:59:00 - [18] Yea my post was a bait - i'm sorry but you have to appreciate i like the FE, and when i see constant attacks on them, for reasons that can only be accounted for as "bizzare" actions i can only get a little agitated. I am very defensive towards my comrades, always have been - i stood by ragnar (still do to this day infact) when everyone was having a go at him, i guess i am just stubborn. Anyhow... i am dismayed at your lack of understanding you have on the CA, given the fact that you consider OC a carebear corp that will get weeded out because of the conflict. If you did understand the CA as well as you claim, then you would never make such a statement, i daresay even our enemies that we fight daily will admit that OC are not carebears and are most certainly not going to give up this conflict for a long long time. We fought Stain for 2 months on our own before joining the CA, we are a very determined corp and i can tell you one thing, you declaring war on the CA has only increased our support and willingness to stay alongside them. Once again i do apologise for trying to incite an argument earlier. Reverend Necrona
Miso	Posted - 2004.03.10 16:02:00 - [19] Quote: miso ill 1on1 you anywhere anytime You war dec'd us, you come get me -------------------------------------------- Dead
Seleene	Posted - 2004.03.10 16:07:00 - [20] Rev, my original comments that Zap quoted were in no way turned toward CA as a whole or Omega Corp (whom I briefly considered joining before SPVD). I was just putting into words my confusion over the seemingly random actions of FE over the last few weeks. Even you, who wish to defend your comrades, must admit that thier recent actions (retracting war against MASS, EV, Tyrell), declaring war on Jericho, spamming a neutral chat channel... these are things that I can't imagine a corp such as your own, or many other CA corps, doing. Yet all the FE forum posters can seem to do is slam Zap, Jade or anyone else who questions thier seemingly bizare target list. Why hasn't even one of them come out and said, "THIS is why we stopped fighing the SA corps and declared war on Jericho and then spammed Jade's chat room, etc...." Zap, like myself and many others, are just trying to make sense of it all. - T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today!
Lord Zap	Posted - 2004.03.10 16:08:00 - [21] Quote: Edited by: Naqq on 10/03/2004 15:55:59 Edited by: Naqq on 10/03/2004 15:54:57 Couldn't agree more there Zap, I also find the way F-E has acted recently very pathetic and also very very childish. However I'd also like to say that it break my heart to see a prominent and well infamous pirat like yourself commenting on this kind of stuff(wether you like cyber-sex is not of my concern, I tend to stick to the real thing). The only thing to comfort me there is that I still don't know wether you are the original Zap or just some stupid Ebay account buyer. Enlighten me on that topic. However I still think that you post here drag yourself down in the mud if it makes any sense putting it that way. You could also say I do it to my own name by writing this post, however im not near as fames as your character. I have nothing to lose. Ps. However you must admit that they do some great fighting tho, but in my oppinon this game is far more then that. I wasnt commenting on cyber sex. I was commenting on the FE as being an embarrasment to the rest of the CA. And do not be so bold to infer I dont get "the real thing" just because I might choose to chat and socialise in La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs.
Frakri Hogsto	Posted - 2004.03.10 16:18:00 - [22] I think the people flamining FE for what they do and don't do, should be concentrating more on what they are doing. If we chose to declare war on a corporation and we retract we are well within our rights, and no, we don't have to explain it to every tom **** and harry. As for you Zap! your feeble attempts to try to cause friction between FE and CA, well son, it ain't working. I've noticed you've not been logged on TQ a great deal latley?.......spending to much time on the forums are we? hhhmm wonder why that is. Quit your yapping and try to do what you came to do
Lord Zap	Posted - 2004.03.10 16:22:00 - [23] Quote: I think the people flamining FE for what they do and don't do, should be concentrating more on what they are doing. If we chose to declare war on a corporation and we retract we are well within our rights, and no, we don't have to explain it to every tom **** and harry. As for you Zap! your feeble attempts to try to cause friction between FE and CA, well son, it ain't working. I've noticed you've not been logged on TQ a great deal latley?.......spending to much time on the forums are we? hhhmm wonder why that is. Quit your yapping and try to do what you came to do Yap? How about a reasoned argument as to why you retracted 3 perfectly legitimate wars and declared war on Jericho Fraction, an RP based non pVp corp? Is this what the mighty Empire has come to?
Alexandra Belana	Posted - 2004.03.10 16:23:00 - [24] Quote: I wasnt commenting on cyber sex. I was commenting on the FE as being an embarrasment to the rest of the CA. And do not be so bold to infer I dont get "the real thing" just because I might choose to chat and socialise in La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs. Much agreed. The social aspect of La Maison de Tous Les Plaisirs has more to do with a simulated environment where friend and foe can find common interest and enjoy one anothers company - though if Zap did have that problem I would be happy to remedy it for him. Evil Temptress - Goddess of Pleasure
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.03.10 16:28:00 - [25] Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 10/03/2004 16:28:59 Jericho are a non-PvP corp? I swear to god recently they proclaimed that they had moved away from trading as the game had moved away - into the form of PvP. Jesus i hear miso condemining and correcting many a person on these forums, as well as j0sphine regarding combat issues, battle issues and what not. If they truly do not want to engage in PvP - then they certainly go about it the wrong way. Reverend Necrona
The Ratfink	Posted - 2004.03.10 16:28:00 - [26] The biggest embarassment to the CA was helping m0o when they were down and out only left to be stabbed in the back no matter what way you potray F-E what your currently doing doesn't even compare.
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2004.03.10 16:29:00 - [27] Zip Zap Zip .......... is this the new method the m0o corporation will try to fight is wars up until the day both you and its isk runs and hides from Eve...... It seemed rather logical "cancelling" 3 wars with large coporations when we were expecting the mighty combined forces of m0o and Evoloution to attack us any day ....... Its just a pity it hasn't turned out that way and your doing nothing more than sitting in station / safe spots kicking members from your corp who are unlucky enough to get destroyed after you leave "high and dry" when we go on the offensive ... After all Eve wants a war .... what are we waiting for ...... sorry forgot .... no one attacks a jump in point ........ right As for th La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs chat channel I'm sure Jade wouldn't want you to bring that one up again ...... but for the noobs / forum warriors .......... The verbal ... slanging between Jade and myself will continue (always has and always will) but I find it rather "stupid" to post the contents of La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs over the forums ...... expecially the people shouting "ban him" and jumping from the cliffs like lemmings ....... Now if I have been mistaken and this channel is NOT a "private" channel and open to anyone aged from 13+ I would like Jade to answer a few questions in regards to "why" firstly I was put in there and secondly about its contents, after all she is the moderator. Double standards if you ask me........... but I'm a big boy ..... what I post is "my own views" ..... right or wrong ...... I don't hide behind alts. Mongo speaks !!
mk ultra	Posted - 2004.03.10 16:36:00 - [28] First whats going between CA and allies is none of your business anyway . Your voice will never make any difference now. Second ... dont you have a war to actually start ... still waiting ... Good luck to you No hard feelings Have fun ------------------------ <Beeth> Girls are like internet domain names, the ones I like are already taken. <honx> well, you can stil get one from a strange country :-P
LordXL	Posted - 2004.03.10 16:39:00 - [29] You Talk to much Zapo! For a use to bee respected player. Trying put us in embarrassment haha your funy go play whit the roids.
Hanns	Posted - 2004.03.10 16:44:00 - [30] Whats wrong zap, cant beat us by military force, and resorting to politics instead?

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