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Sky Grunthor Minmatar Core Element	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:19:00 - [31] Edited by: Sky Grunthor on 07/12/2007 23:20:48 Originally by: Hansoloo Originally by: Paulo Damarr Programmer my backside, your just being nosey. I do not have a answer any questions or comments about my skills as a programmer. with out typing it in to google like your going to do anyway define the following keywords that any programmer will know, OOP, stucts, stored procedures, recursion.. I can go on.. not to question your skill as a programmer but those are bad choices for a pop quiz. All of those should be definable by any person who has at least taken a programming 1 class. I would not qualify those people as programmers per-se :D and its structs not stucts. might want to fix that one. any way. OOP = Object Oriented Programing stucts (read structs) = a kind of hybrid class that has some special qualities. Used as far as I know primarily in older structured languages like C, C++ etc but still existing even in C#. I think the difference is a memmory storage difference but I couldn't tell you off hand. Stored Procedures = a sql stored procedure that performes some procedural logic on a databace and is stored in a database. hence the name. recursion= a process by wich a method, class, structor whatever calls itself in order to complete a task. A recursive method/function (which i think is the real question here) is a method/function that calls itsef to perform a task and are often candidates for stack overflows. Also something that could be mentioned is that any recursive method or function can be written as a loop and would in most cases run faster. Except that a recursive loop is usually much easier to write and takes less typing to do. edit - oh and yes I can't spell for beens sometimes as well.. you just have to read my post to figure that out. Search: Sky Grunthor
Hansoloo DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:23:00 - [32] Originally by: Tarminic I need to talk to whoever was responsible for the technical design of your website, and I'm still a bit dubious about any qualifications you have as a programmer. What languages do you use? Why type of programs do you generally write? vb.net, c#.net, c++ (not well just enough to know what I'm doing), java, are the major types, and I translate and optimize peaces of code.
Hansoloo DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:24:00 - [33] Edited by: Hansoloo on 07/12/2007 23:26:11 Originally by: Sky Grunthor Edited by: Sky Grunthor on 07/12/2007 23:20:48 Originally by: Hansoloo Originally by: Paulo Damarr Programmer my backside, your just being nosey. I do not have a answer any questions or comments about my skills as a programmer. with out typing it in to google like your going to do anyway define the following keywords that any programmer will know, OOP, stucts, stored procedures, recursion.. I can go on.. not to question your skill as a programmer but those are bad choices for a pop quiz. All of those should be definable by any person who has at least taken a programming 1 class. I would not qualify those people as programmers per-se :D and its structs not stucts. might want to fix that one. any way. OOP = Object Oriented Programing stucts (read structs) = a kind of hybrid class that has some special qualities. Used as far as I know primarily in older structured languages like C, C++ etc but still existing even in C#. I think the difference is a memmory storage difference but I couldn't tell you off hand. Stored Procedures = a sql stored procedure that performes some procedural logic on a databace and is stored in a database. hence the name. recursion= a process by wich a method, class, structor whatever calls itself in order to complete a task. A recursive method/function (which i think is the real question here) is a method/function that calls itsef to perform a task and are often candidates for stack overflows. Also something that could be mentioned is that any recursive method or function can be written as a loop and would in most cases run faster. Except that a recursive loop is usually much easier to write and takes less typing to do. edit - oh and yes I can't spell for beens sometimes as well.. you just have to read my post to figure that out. structs also short name for structures. No I had it right thank you. See that is how I found out who is a program and who is not but who can catch that error, but its a hard question and none programmer can't catch it. Only people who have been working in the field a few ..
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:25:00 - [34] Originally by: Hansoloo Originally by: Tarminic I need to talk to whoever was responsible for the technical design of your website, and I'm still a bit dubious about any qualifications you have as a programmer. What languages do you use? Why type of programs do you generally write? vb.net, c#.net, c++ (not well just enough to know what I'm doing), java, are the major types, and I translate and optimize peaces of code. VB.Net? You have my sympathies. Desktop: C#, C++, Java Web: PHP, XHTML, CSS, SQL ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in ~~pink~~ Forum Warfare
Kerfira	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:25:00 - [35] Originally by: Hansoloo ...c++ (not well just enough to know what I'm doing)... If you don't know C++ well, you DON'T know what you're doing!!! Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Paulo Damarr	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:26:00 - [36] Originally by: Hansoloo Originally by: Paulo Damarr Programmer my backside, your just being nosey. I do not have a answer any questions or comments about my skills as a programmer. with out typing it in to google like your going to do anyway define the following keywords that any programmer will know, OOP, stucts, stored procedures, recursion.. I can go on.. You could have read those from just about anywhere so I dont know what thats supposed to prove. --------------------------------------- Output folder: C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE Delete file: \boot.ini Extract: boot.ini... 100%
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:27:00 - [37] I write entire operating systems in Assembly. Witness the validity of Internet Claims. - I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes.
Hansoloo DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:27:00 - [38] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Hansoloo Originally by: Tarminic I need to talk to whoever was responsible for the technical design of your website, and I'm still a bit dubious about any qualifications you have as a programmer. What languages do you use? Why type of programs do you generally write? vb.net, c#.net, c++ (not well just enough to know what I'm doing), java, are the major types, and I translate and optimize peaces of code. VB.Net? You have my sympathies. Desktop: C#, C++, Java Web: PHP, XHTML, CSS, SQL I'm not got me a job translating VB to c# so ..
Hansoloo DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:28:00 - [39] Originally by: Crumplecorn I write entire operating systems in Assembly. Witness the validity of Internet Claims. yea and I'm king ED
Sky Grunthor Minmatar Core Element	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:28:00 - [40] Edited by: Sky Grunthor on 07/12/2007 23:30:25 Originally by: Hansoloo structs also short name for structures. No I had it right thank you. I wasn't saying otherwise... I was saying you spelled structs wrong. Example : stucts see missing the r there. However the point is that you don't have to be a programmer or be able to program to know what those things are. They rise to the level of semi common knowledge. They aren't good quiz questions. -edit. saw your edit after I posted this. I think the point still stands regardless of trying the trip up. Search: Sky Grunthor
Kerfira	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:29:00 - [41] Edited by: Kerfira on 07/12/2007 23:30:19 Originally by: Crumplecorn I write entire operating systems in Assembly. Witness the validity of Internet Claims. QFT! Impress people with what you say! Not with what skills you claim to have! BTW, I write entire operating systems in raw machine code, BACKWARDS! Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
the caligynephobist	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:31:00 - [42] Originally by: Hansoloo I'm not got me a job translating VB to c# so .. admit it - yer the work experience kid and you can start the dev environment...
Buyerr	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:32:00 - [43] """"Q) Who was the name of the div that got fired over this, and if none was fired why?""" respectless!! show some freaking respect. what are your work area?! if you made a unlucky ****-up that can be very easy to make, would you suspect to be fired? show some respect.
Paulo Damarr	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:33:00 - [44] Edited by: Paulo Damarr on 07/12/2007 23:34:08 Yes we all know if CCP implemented tougher AFD measures they would be dealing with a balanced score card instead of the PR nightmare they have currently. Look Mom I am in production and development!! --------------------------------------- Output folder: C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE Delete file: \boot.ini Extract: boot.ini... 100%
Sky Grunthor Minmatar Core Element	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:33:00 - [45] Originally by: the caligynephobist Originally by: Hansoloo I'm not got me a job translating VB to c# so .. admit it - yer the work experience kid and you can start the dev environment... can I have a translation for what you just said? In "Makes Sense" please? Search: Sky Grunthor
Hansoloo DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:34:00 - [46] http://www.eve-tool.com/tools/pos_fueler.rar only program I can find of mine online, made it for a corp m8
the caligynephobist	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:35:00 - [47] Hansoloo.Dispose(); oh noes!
Sky Grunthor Minmatar Core Element	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:36:00 - [48] Originally by: Hansoloo http://www.eve-tool.com/tools/pos_fueler.rar only program I can find of mine online, made it for a corp m8 wow.. theres some balls... you just opened em up for flames galore. Good luck with that one. Search: Sky Grunthor
Hansoloo DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:37:00 - [49] Edited by: Hansoloo on 07/12/2007 23:39:27 no balls need as you can see cut 1/2 the people from posting didn't it
Hansoloo DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:41:00 - [50] there is also this I've been working on but.. its not online.. http://www.eve-tool.com/tools/new3.jpg
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:43:00 - [51] Quote: for(x = 0; x < forumusers.length; x++) { CurrentUser = ForumUsers[x]; if(!(CurrentUser.isTroll() && CurrentUser.isAlt())) NewUsers[] = CurrentUser; } ForumUsers = NewUsers; This is best, really ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in ~~pink~~ Forum Warfare
Sky Grunthor Minmatar Core Element	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:47:00 - [52] Originally by: Hansoloo Edited by: Hansoloo on 07/12/2007 23:39:27 no balls need as you can see cut 1/2 the people from posting didn't it more likely they start to see all this programmer crap and think.... uhm ok... mental note ignore this one. Search: Sky Grunthor
Kerfira	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:48:00 - [53] Originally by: Hansoloo no balls need as you can see cut 1/2 the people from posting didn't it Stopped posting because there wasn't more to say. Your arguments clearly showed that you didn't have any knowledge about how serious software companies handle situations like this. Also, making a pretty GUI with a tiny bit of code behind it to juggle a small amount of data is not even close to professional programming. It's just a hobby activity! Point to your activities in large online projects like MySql or Mozilla, and you could claim some credit, but small programs like this made in a GUI that holds your hand.... 'nuff said! Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Hansoloo DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:49:00 - [54] Originally by: Sky Grunthor Originally by: Hansoloo Edited by: Hansoloo on 07/12/2007 23:39:27 no balls need as you can see cut 1/2 the people from posting didn't it more likely they start to see all this programmer crap and think.... uhm ok... mental note ignore this one. good thing really..
Tressin Khiyne Minmatar Interstellar Vacation Center	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:50:00 - [55] Edited by: Tressin Khiyne on 07/12/2007 23:51:08 I believe our friend Hansoloo is young, and inexperienced, but working on learning. He has definitely overstated his abilities (obvious), and gotten in over his head with a few of our residents, but I can remember doing the same when I was young (inadvertently got me a job once being a regular know-it-all once). Lesson learned Han, you're not chief programmer, and you have no room to question other programmer's work until someone's paying you for your own code at least - better yet, until you sign their paychecks. I vote everyone let the kid off the hook. (I don't wanna see his code/work/ideas ripped apart, since I'm sure he spends plenty of time doing that himself) -- There are 10 kinds of people in this world; Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:55:00 - [56] I programmed the original Alpha version of Eve, completely in BASIC. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Hansoloo DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:55:00 - [57] Originally by: Kerfira Originally by: Hansoloo no balls need as you can see cut 1/2 the people from posting didn't it Stopped posting because there wasn't more to say. Your arguments clearly showed that you didn't have any knowledge about how serious software companies handle situations like this. Also, making a pretty GUI with a tiny bit of code behind it to juggle a small amount of data is not even close to professional programming. It's just a hobby activity! Point to your activities in large online projects like MySql or Mozilla, and you could claim some credit, but small programs like this made in a GUI that holds your hand.... 'nuff said! I really do not have to impress other people I know what I can do what my limits are and where my strong points are. People ask and I showed some small stuff I did for corp. If you really think its that hard show or STFU please. All the major projects I have done are for internal CMS systems and other type programs. As I can not post them as I do not own that code my work does. Really enough said, I have yet to see anything for the other "so called" programmer in here.. I won't ether because they are kiddie programmer who just think they are bad ass due to come good google searching.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:57:00 - [58] Also, everyone fails because we all know OOP = Out of Pod. And for someone saying you don't need to "prove" anything. Why did other people need to "prove" stuff to you? Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Paulo Damarr	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:58:00 - [59] Edited by: Paulo Damarr on 07/12/2007 23:58:38 I love watching someone trying salvage whats left of their E-peen when they have waved it in public and had it laughed at. --------------------------------------- Output folder: C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE Delete file: \boot.ini Extract: boot.ini... 100%
Hansoloo DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.07 23:59:00 - [60] Originally by: Tressin Khiyne Edited by: Tressin Khiyne on 07/12/2007 23:51:08 I believe our friend Hansoloo is young, and inexperienced, but working on learning. He has definitely overstated his abilities (obvious), and gotten in over his head with a few of our residents, but I can remember doing the same when I was young (inadvertently got me a job once being a regular know-it-all once). Lesson learned Han, you're not chief programmer, and you have no room to question other programmer's work until someone's paying you for your own code at least - better yet, until you sign their paychecks. I vote everyone let the kid off the hook. (I don't wanna see his code/work/ideas ripped apart, since I'm sure he spends plenty of time doing that himself) this guy is right, and thank you. I am inexperienced and never said I was major programmer just posted a few questions that friends of mine would like answered. On the upside I do have a good job, doing something I love, its not the best but translating bad code in to better code is always good stepping stone as you learn what not to do and do error checking.

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