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UniqueOne Caldari Mining Bytes Inc. Insurgency	Posted - 2007.12.08 05:52:00 - [1] The current system just does not make sense. This is just an idea that I think would create ballance, and would also allow all races to select between armor and shield tanking (openning up new options for all ships). 1. Move shield tank modules to low slots (in line with armor tanks). 2. Move BCU's to mid slots (in line with armor tanker's weapons upgrades). 3. Reverse all shield tank ships module slots between mid and low slots. 4. In the case of caldari ships, adjust the cpu and power grid to be more in line with other races. ..and there you have it. True game ballance for all types of tanks. It would allow players to select between shield and armor tank on any ship (although ships still would have their base advantages to one or the other). It would also allow shield tankers the same benefits of using webs/scrams/ab/mwd etc that armor tankers currently have. I am not sure why things were not designed like this from the start.
UniqueOne Caldari Mining Bytes Inc. Insurgency	Posted - 2007.12.08 06:02:00 - [2] Just a small addition. In the case of the caldari EW ships, 1 or 2 of the module slots would probebly need to remain as mid slots.
Don Juanito	Posted - 2007.12.08 06:16:00 - [3] no. shield tanking and armor tanking are for the most part balanced. the only thing that isnt (and probably never will be) is the high end shield tanking stuff, which is far superior to the high end armor tanking mods/imps.
Anon Forumalt	Posted - 2007.12.08 06:28:00 - [4] "Move BCU's to mid slots (in line with armor tanker's weapons upgrades.)" Uhh...heat sinks, gyrostabs, and mag stabs are all LOW slots. So you fail already, not yet halfway through your post. But I do think this game needs missile velocity/flight time/explosion speed/explosion radius modules, which are absent when compared with turrets. But that's an entirely different discussion.
Narffy	Posted - 2007.12.08 06:29:00 - [5] Originally by: UniqueOne The current system just does not make sense. This is just an idea that I think would create ballance, and would also allow all races to select between armor and shield tanking (openning up new options for all ships). 1. Move shield tank modules to low slots (in line with armor tanks). 2. Move BCU's to mid slots (in line with armor tanker's weapons upgrades). 3. Reverse all shield tank ships module slots between mid and low slots. 4. In the case of caldari ships, adjust the cpu and power grid to be more in line with other races. ..and there you have it. True game ballance for all types of tanks. It would allow players to select between shield and armor tank on any ship (although ships still would have their base advantages to one or the other). It would also allow shield tankers the same benefits of using webs/scrams/ab/mwd etc that armor tankers currently have. I am not sure why things were not designed like this from the start. There's things that must be sacrificed either way. If you move all shield mods to the lows and adjust everything to compensate that change, then what would really be the point of having armor tanking and shield tanking? They would be too similar. Might as well just have something called tank and have one low slot module that turns tank on/off.
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.12.08 07:13:00 - [6] Have you thought this out? Why do you want ships to be the SAME.... Lets see current situation: tank + some or no tackling gank Tackling tank or gank Its different.... Shieldtank :you can gank + tank and even tackle if you drop some of the meds or go crazy and do EW and gank! Armortanking: you can tackle + OR tank OR gank. You want to: shield: Tackle + gank + mwd FULLOUT TANK Tackle + mwd tank or gank yeh.. _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Zhett Haukes Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.12.08 08:23:00 - [7] why don't we just delete all the races and create a new one? We could call them "The Balanced" (Not the most catchy name I know)
Dubious Drewski	Posted - 2007.12.08 09:03:00 - [8] Edited by: Dubious Drewski on 08/12/2007 09:02:54 Gray-Goo gaming is Baaaad I should make that my sig. Seriously. Having all ships the same makes all the ships boring. Originally by: Slayton Ford a Drake is normally primaried last And that's why I love that homely boat!
Riho Northen Breeze	Posted - 2007.12.08 09:07:00 - [9] Originally by: UniqueOne The current system just does not make sense. This is just an idea that I think would create ballance, and would also allow all races to select between armor and shield tanking (openning up new options for all ships). 1. Move shield tank modules to low slots (in line with armor tanks). 2. Move BCU's to mid slots (in line with armor tanker's weapons upgrades). 3. Reverse all shield tank ships module slots between mid and low slots. 4. In the case of caldari ships, adjust the cpu and power grid to be more in line with other races. ..and there you have it. 1. no comment 2. lollerskates... armor tankers weapon mods are allso low slot 3. why does everything need to be the same in this gmae ? go to wow if u want everything to be the same. i quite like my caldari ships in pvp 4. read 3
Darqion Zenix	Posted - 2007.12.08 10:12:00 - [10] wow isnt the same. the pvp there is horrible for a good number of classes :p anyway, mirroring is the worst kind of ballance.. because you`ll end up not having to care what race you pick.. as they end up the same anyway. accept that different ships, even different races , end up in different roles. Dont like your role ? Change YOUR racial prefference, not the race itself
vostok Minmatar Suns Of Korhal	Posted - 2007.12.08 10:45:00 - [11] ROFL wow that was the dumbest thing i have read in a while
Shiken Kan	Posted - 2007.12.08 11:15:00 - [12] Edited by: Shiken Kan on 08/12/2007 11:15:01 as was already said with your changes you might as well make a generic tank module, maybe balanced but also quite boring.
NoNah	Posted - 2007.12.08 11:53:00 - [13] Tanking is one of the best balanced things in game. =( Shield tanking being way stronger and more complex. Optimized for PvE but harder to fit for solo-PvP. Armor tanking not as strong, more or less based on 3 modules, but opens up for EW and midslotmodules. Postcount: 144917
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.12.08 18:15:00 - [14] No. Just plain no. Let's keep shield tanking and armor tanking properly seperate and discrete, and thus naturally unbalanced. Variety is the spice of life, and your proposal would homogenize EVE. As to your comments. #1) And as such remove the choice of fitting tank in either lows ormids? #2) And what about heat sinks/magstabs/gyrostabs? #3) See #1 #4) Again, I do NOT want everything to be the same.

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